From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #305 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Tuesday, October 22 2002 Volume 02 : Number 305 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) ["Daniel Nolan" ] RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) ["AndrewR" ] [oztori] availability of scarlett's walk ["riot poofter" ] RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) ["Bindy ." ] RE: [oztori] vot ze? [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] Request - not granted ["Bindy ." ] Re: [oztori] Request - not granted [Nathan "®" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:25:00 +1000 From: "Daniel Nolan" Subject: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) Just a reminder to those who are coming - currently 6 have confirmed - for the meetup tomorrow night at 7:00pm, Starbucks in the city (don't blame me for the location though!). I haven't seen this mentioned on the list, and it's probably a bit late for those who don't know about it, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Apparently this happens every month on the same date around the world through this site, toriamos.meetup.com. Here's the page for the Brizzy meet: http://toriamos.meetup.com/?zip=&localeId=871&setLocale=0 By the way, for those who actually show up tomorrow night: I will be bringing copies of Scarlet's Walk for everyone, so let me know if you're coming otherwise you'll miss out! Cheers, Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:40:42 +1000 From: "AndrewR" Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Daniel Nolan > Sent: Monday, 21 October 2002 9:25 PM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) > > Just a reminder to those who are coming - currently 6 have confirmed - for > the meetup tomorrow night at 7:00pm, Starbucks in the city (don't blame me > for the location though!). > > I haven't seen this mentioned on the list, and it's probably a bit late > for > those who don't know about it, but I thought it was worth mentioning. > Apparently this happens every month on the same date around the world > through this site, toriamos.meetup.com. Here's the page for the Brizzy > meet: > > http://toriamos.meetup.com/?zip=&localeId=871&setLocale=0 > > By the way, for those who actually show up tomorrow night: I will be > bringing copies of Scarlet's Walk for everyone, so let me know if you're > coming otherwise you'll miss out! > > Cheers, > Dan. Is this for real? Where have all the e-mails and/or discussion been about this? So what are we planning on doing at Starbucks... and... who DID plan that location!?! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:12:02 +1000 From: "Daniel Nolan" Subject: Re: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) From: "AndrewR" > Is this for real? Do not adjust your television set: this is positively for real. > Where have all the e-mails and/or discussion been about this? Stuffed if I know. I only found out about this yesterday, and since the meet was confirmed (apparently the automated system needs four people to register) I thought I'd let you know. Interestingly, even though every other major capital in Aus has a group, none of them "qualified" this time around. > So what are we planning on doing at Starbucks... and... who DID plan > that location!?! I don't know what they've got in store, if anything. But there were three locations and we all voted for one. Tracey (who's nic on the Tori forums is spark658) is the host so you might want to give her a buzz. Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Widescreen Penguin Subject: Re: [oztori] Release date for Ltd Ed SW?? - --- Julian P wrote: > Okay, so does anyone have any further info on the Aussie > release date for the Ltd Edition SW? Should we be expecting it > Monday week, or will it take a few extra weeks to make its way > from the US? I presume you mean the bonus-DVD version? According to Sony's official release list, it's out the same day as the "standard" edition. The release schedule lists a US-specific catalogue number for that version, so my guess is that the discs will be US imports. Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Widescreen Penguin Subject: Re: [oztori] The Plot Thickens (the thread formerly known as "what the?") - --- Julian P wrote: > Maybe this guy isn't so full of shit. Chaos Music > (www.chaosmusic.com.au) have reinstated their listing for the > ASF single, after having removed it a few weeks back. > Perhaps the reports of ASF's demise have been exaggerated? It is not listed for release by Sony Music Australia - not on November 4th, not November 11th either. The copies being sold will be the radio promos that went out a week or two ago. Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:24:04 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) i want to know what with all the free copies of scarlet's walk! why can't we have a sydney meet with free copies? why could we have known this so i could have flown up to brisbane for the meet? (okay i'm being stupid there...actually i'm just being insanely jealous...) but i will make a ruling - NO SPOILERS! (ie - please no lyrics or stuff like that. song descriptions are okay). or something. i dunno. i'm going back to bed. :P in a silly mood (as always) xoxo dan - --- AndrewR wrote: > > - -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of > > Daniel Nolan > > Sent: Monday, 21 October 2002 9:25 PM > > To: oztori@smoe.org > > Subject: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! > (Tuesday Night) > > > > Just a reminder to those who are coming - > currently 6 have confirmed - > for > > the meetup tomorrow night at 7:00pm, Starbucks in > the city (don't > blame me > > for the location though!). > > > > I haven't seen this mentioned on the list, and > it's probably a bit > late > > for > > those who don't know about it, but I thought it > was worth mentioning. > > Apparently this happens every month on the same > date around the world > > through this site, toriamos.meetup.com. Here's the > page for the Brizzy > > meet: > > > > > http://toriamos.meetup.com/?zip=&localeId=871&setLocale=0 > > > > By the way, for those who actually show up > tomorrow night: I will be > > bringing copies of Scarlet's Walk for everyone, so > let me know if > you're > > coming otherwise you'll miss out! > > > > Cheers, > > Dan. > > Is this for real? > > Where have all the e-mails and/or discussion been > about this? > > So what are we planning on doing at Starbucks... > and... who DID plan > that location!?! ===== I want a table - no, just for one. But I know you do! I can see some from here! Okay, then say for two...no, there's only one. Don't you want my business? I will never come back here! http://www.livejournal.com/~scarydan Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:01:56 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) Daniel wrote: >i want to know what with all the free copies of >scarlet's walk! why can't we have a sydney meet with >free copies? why could we have known this so i could >have flown up to brisbane for the meet? (okay i'm >being stupid there...actually i'm just being insanely >jealous...) I think Mr Nolan is referring to burning copies of his SW disc for distribution, rather than distributing out actual official copies. And if you want a burnt copy of SW that badly, why don't you just find someone in Sydney with a copy of the CD. Like, um, I dunno ... me? :-) Jules PS - now does anyone want to offer tips on how I can get my computer to burn CDs again? ;-) - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger for SMS- Always be connected to your Messenger Friends ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:20:21 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) I was trying to sort out the status of the ASF single with Red Eye ... I've preordered it and paid a $5 deposit, but it didn't show up when they said it would (last week), and now it looks like it wont be in until either next week, or two weeks after that. And now that the single *might* be released here sooner than that (and for about $15 less as well!), I decided I'd do a little harrassing ... anyhoo, in the course of said harrassment it turned out that they had a copy of SW (just the one disc version), that they were selling as a 'second hand' item ... it was a review copy that a journo had sold them. It was actually the second journo copy they had sold, so someone else in Sydney is running around with one too. (In drill seargent voice: "I know it was one of you!") I know it was a bit dumb for me to buy a CD when I'll be buying it again (in Ltd Ed version) next week or soon thereafter, but, well, it's Tori!! :-) J li wrote:How'd you get a copy of the CD??? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Julian P Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:32 AM To: oztori@smoe.org Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) Daniel wrote: >i want to know what with all the free copies of >scarlet's walk! why can't we have a sydney meet with >free copies? why could we have known this so i could >have flown up to brisbane for the meet? (okay i'm >being stupid there...actually i'm just being insanely >jealous...) I think Mr Nolan is referring to burning copies of his SW disc for distribution, rather than distributing out actual official copies. And if you want a burnt copy of SW that badly, why don't you just find someone in Sydney with a copy of the CD. Like, um, I dunno ... me? :-) Jules PS - now does anyone want to offer tips on how I can get my computer to burn CDs again? ;-) - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger for SMS- Always be connected to your Messenger Friends - --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/9/2002 - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/9/2002 - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Careers- 1,000's of jobs waiting online for you! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:01:45 +1000 From: "Bindy ." Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) Daniel Nolan said: >Just a reminder to those who are coming - currently 6 have confirmed - >for the meetup tomorrow night at 7:00pm, Starbucks in the city (don't >blame me for the location though!). thpthpthpthpt!!! What?! Love the notice Dan!! Andy? Becc? Pam? Nina? Who's going? If enough of you wanna go I could always trundle in after work I guess. Let me know asap. ~Bindy Go to: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cancerian/ for Ramblings From The Moon Child _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:15:35 +0930 From: "li" Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) Julian mentions he has SW. I respond: Well, what's it like?? Review please. :) And does anyone have a date yet for when the album will be released and when the DVD/album thingo will be released? - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 10/9/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 00:26:22 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) pretend that we can send emails in html, and this is big and bold: THIS COMING MONDAY!!!! (Although some stores will be selling it Sunday...eg, HMV Macquarie. Where I will be Sunday afternoon. Assuming the DVD copy is available then). --- li wrote: > Julian mentions he has SW. I respond: > > Well, what's it like?? Review please. :) And does > anyone have a date yet for > when the album will be released and when the > DVD/album thingo will be > released? > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release > Date: 10/9/2002 ===== I want a table - no, just for one. But I know you do! I can see some from here! Okay, then say for two...no, there's only one. Don't you want my business? I will never come back here! http://www.livejournal.com/~scarydan Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:11:13 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: [oztori] I Can't See the Release Date li <brites@zip.com.au> wrote: >Julian mentions he has SW. I respond: >Well, what's it like?? Review please. :) I like it. I like it a LOT. It's top three definitenly. Top two very probably. I might do a big spoilerfest of a review when I get home tonight. >and does anyone have a date yet for >then the album will be released and when the DVD/album thingo will be >released? Didn't Kate or someone equally in the know about such things post that the Ltd Ed CD + DVD + Lucky Charms + Fairy Snot + Tori Saliva Sample + Tash Baby Tooth deal hadn't shown up here in Australia yet and thus may not make it onto shelves by the release date? Hmn. Jules np - I Can't See New York (creepy) - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger for SMS- Always be connected to your Messenger Friends ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:56:26 +1000 From: "AndrewR" Subject: [oztori] Testing Just testing. my posts haven't come through. bloody uni. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:53:31 +1000 From: "AndrewR" Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) > http://toriamos.meetup.com/?zip=&localeId=871&setLocale=0 > > By the way, for those who actually show up tomorrow night: I will be > bringing copies of Scarlet's Walk for everyone, so let me know if you're > coming otherwise you'll miss out! > > Cheers, > Dan. OK, how many oztorian's names are on that list on that linked page? How many of those people know about oztori!?! Have they once been subscribed to oztori - but have since be scared away? I did notice a "Trent" on there - I'm guessing that is the infamous Trent Titmarsh... I don't know why he is famous - It's just a name that sort of... sticks. ;) Oh and there was a link at the end of the names of people that, I reckon should NEVER be put on a Tori page: "Report abuse here". ;o) "Hi, I've been abused by my boyfriend. He was watching the RAINN video and caught me lipsynching incorrectly during Cornflake Girl. He pulled off one of my Faery Wings!!" ;o) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:47:06 +1000 From: "AndrewR" Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bindy . > Sent: Tuesday, 22 October 2002 9:02 AM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) > > Daniel Nolan said: > > >Just a reminder to those who are coming - currently 6 have confirmed - - > >for the meetup tomorrow night at 7:00pm, Starbucks in the city (don't > >blame me for the location though!). > > thpthpthpthpt!!! > > What?! Love the notice Dan!! Andy? Becc? Pam? Nina? Who's going? If > enough of you wanna go I could always trundle in after work I guess. Let > me > know asap. Hey, I wouldn't mind going... but WTF is it - maybe I should read that link!?! :) So yeah, if by like 5:30pm There are a few of us going (hey if nothing happens we could always go somewhere else around the place) I'll go too... So consider this a "Yeah" for me to be going (but only if there are a few of us saying so). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:38:41 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: RE: [oztori] vot ze? >back in year 10, my genius friends decided to snort wizz-fizz. boy, was >that a messy afternoon. i've done that! it was fun! gives you a sugar rush... i *did* try in moderation though... :) my friend used to be addiucted to wizz fizz... she would eat ten packets in one sitting... _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:27:57 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: [oztori] availability of scarlett's walk >THIS COMING MONDAY!!!! (Although some stores will be >selling it Sunday...eg, HMV Macquarie. Where I will be >Sunday afternoon. Assuming the DVD copy is available >then). So Music in Newtown often unpacks new releases on a thursday.. the guy there told me to try from thursday or friday if i want scarlett's walk ear;y... and they are getting the dvd extre too :) finally got aimee mann's lost in space (brilliant!) yesterday from HMV city... they have lots of it but nowhere else seems to have received shipment... although red eye have an import for $45 _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:29:28 GMT From: Rebecca Appleton Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:01:45 +1000, Bindy . wrote: >What?! Love the notice Dan!! Andy? Becc? Pam? Nina? Who's >going? If >enough of you wanna go I could always trundle in after work I guess. >Let me >know asap. Umm, yeah, I could be convinced. Will someone SMS me to let me know whether other replies come in similarly today? I have to head out to uni. Will try to check my email out there around 2pm, but if the lab's full of class, the lab's full of class. ~Becc :) - -- www.crappism.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:31:53 GMT From: Rebecca Appleton Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 00:26:22 +0100 (BST), Daniel wrote: >THIS COMING MONDAY!!!! (Although some stores will be >selling it Sunday...eg, HMV Macquarie. Where I will be >Sunday afternoon. Assuming the DVD copy is available >then). AGHHHH!! It's here! Finally! That point where we can say "This (thisweek)day, it'll be released." Around about now is where I start looking forward to it (otherwise it's just torture). Yay! :-) ~Becc :D - -- www.crappism.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:43:33 +1000 From: Shane Goh Subject: [oztori] just comments AndrewR wrote: > Have they once been subscribed to oztori - but have since be scared > away? Yeah, scared by the major spamage :) Its like opening a gate and having a river flow upon you. Though its very nice to have a list where you can just write anything, whenever the bordem of work raises its head. Just to chuck in some topic related stuff though, even though Tori's video is weird as hell, its not one to forget! Just like a good ad. As for comments about Tori's website, I actually thought it was pretty cool. Cool for the first time anyway, I just sat there clicking away. The scrolly things were definately too fast though, so I didn't bother reading anything that scrolled. After that first time, it lost its coolness, and well, nows its irritating, its hard remembering where stuff was. In comparison, anyone seen Dido's website? I like that website, nice and easy to navigate. www.didotv.com Gets boring quite fast though, at least with Tori's site you can go back and try and find stuff you missed the first time. Its good to play with, but not to get information out of. - -Shane. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:59:37 +1000 From: "Bindy ." Subject: RE: [oztori] BrisVegas Meet Tomorrow! (Tuesday Night) Becc said: >Umm, yeah, I could be convinced. Will someone SMS me to let me know >whether other replies come in similarly today? Ok, I'm going. Don't know what Dan Nolan looks like, but I am the short girl with docs, very pale skin, a blue velvet top and a black dress. See you Andy, Becc, Dan and co then. ~Bindy Go to: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cancerian/ for Ramblings From The Moon Child _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:11:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Release date for Ltd Ed SW?? Widescreen Penguin wrote: Firstly, if you don't mind me asking.. Who TF are you?! Did we seemingly miss your introduction e-mail to the list?? Or do I just have a bad memory? Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:25:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Request I "don't have time" to sift through the many "BrisVegas meet" or whatever it's called e-mails, so can somebody nicely summarise the 15 or so e-mails relating to this in 1 to 2 sentences max. for me? Thanks :) Secondly, Dan "Merman", if u r reading this.. Ceals & I both want you to make us "I Hate Speech Pathology" t-shirts with that logo you designed for us!!!! What do we need to do in order to make this eventuate? Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: RE: [oztori] vot ze? riot poofter wrote: > >back in year 10, my genius friends decided to snort > wizz-fizz. boy, was > >that a messy afternoon. > > i've done that! it was fun! gives you a sugar > rush... i *did* try in > moderation though... :) > > my friend used to be addiucted to wizz fizz... she > would eat ten packets in > one sitting... Well not really competing with the Wizz Fizz snort fiasco bombshell, but I've blown a nutri-grain thingie out of my nose once. Something to do with nasal regurgitation. 'twas not very nice. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:46:22 +1000 From: "Bindy ." Subject: Re: [oztori] Request - not granted Nathan "." wrote on Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:25:58 -0700 (PDT) >I "don't have time" to sift through the many >"BrisVegas meet" or whatever it's called e-mails, so >can somebody nicely summarise the 15 or so e-mails >relating to this in 1 to 2 sentences max. for me? >Thanks :) You make this sound as though you actually have a life, Nayth. We all know that you don't, so quit pretending you do. Read the bloody things yourself! :P ~Bindy Go to: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cancerian/ for Ramblings From The Moon Child _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Request - not granted "Bindy ." wrote: > You make this sound as though you actually have a > life, Nayth. We all know > that you don't, so quit pretending you do. Read the > bloody things yourself! Too late - I've deleted them all already. And 'twas not a matter of having a "life", but rather my ever-diminishing attention span that is causing the problem here. And who are you to cast judgement on whether or not I have a "life" - I mean, I'm sure there are hoards of envious ppl who wish they got to play pointless card games all day with kiddies. And whilst we are on the topic, dare I ask the broader question, "What is life?" One for all you art-graduates/drop-outs to ponder over in future instalments of this list :) When you're not busy serving fries, that is :P Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #305 ****************************