From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #237 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Thursday, August 15 2002 Volume 02 : Number 237 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] Tori Tour [Nathan "®" ] [oztori] Sydney moit [=?iso-8859-1?q?Dylan=20Plant?= ] Re: [oztori] Treasuretroversial opinions [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] Fwd: Breaking Tori News! [Nathan "®" ] [oztori] Fwd: Breaking Tori News! [=?iso-8859-1?q?Dylan=20Plant?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori Tour > At 12:37 14-08-02 +0000, Kate Findlay wrote: > >Hey Everyone :) > > > >So i'm in negotiations with my mum at the moment - > but basically i am > >(almost definitely) getting a plane ticket overseas > for my 21st You're not even 21? *gasp* fuck you are a lucky young bitch! Lol. I got a 'trip to anywhere I want' - trouble is I don't like flying. Want mine? LOL. > so i can go > >see tori this tour. I wanna to go the UK 'cause > quite frankly i can't be > >bothered dealing with US fans Yay cool attitude baby. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:31:32 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dylan=20Plant?= Subject: [oztori] Sydney moit Hey all, I'm going up to Sydney in Sept sometime, am waiting for tax return. will be going up to see a friend of mine who lives up there...LOL Roozi, wanna take me out on the town???? And I wanna meet yall Sydneyites...there's no damn excuse!!!! Esp Li you rawk...:) Not to say the rest of you don't rawk...lol foot in mouth itis!!!! Will let yall know when I'll be up... Dylan ===== Cheers dylan http://digital.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Digital How To - - Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:25:35 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis AndrewR wrote: >The one thing you could say, is that at least Tori live is different to >Studio Tori... some bands/artists are exactly the same whether live or in >the studio. I agree. I think one of Tori's great strengths is that she is can constantly reinvent her songs. Granted, some of those reinventions don't always work, but sometime they work brilliantly. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:29:44 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori Tour Sorry, call me naive, call me stupid, but I'm not yet ready to concede that Tori isn't come here. I refuse to give up hope! (But having said that, I've let my Dad -- who lives in England -- know that I might just be popping over for a visit later this year or very early next ... ) Hmn. Jules - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:37:40 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) Nathan, Nathan, Nathan. It seems like we're just not going to be able to agree on this issue. I will concede though (since I'm always the gentleman) that many of Tori's renditions from SLT were dead boring. Crucify on the wurli (or practically anything else on the wurli) is right up there with anaesthetic-less teeth pulling, but most of her pre-SLT live stuff is great (esp her plugged '98 stuff!!). And the SLT did produce the best ever versions of Sugar, Lust and Butterfly. Oh, and it occurred to me on the bus today that LE probably has the best bunch of b-sides of any era. Sure there are great b-sides from each of the other eras (Sister Janet, Purple People, Never Seen Blue, Butterfly etc) but as a collection, the LE b-sides are the strongest. Does that count for something??? Jules Nathan . wrote: Julian P wrote: > Sorry for the confusion, but I meant that, as an > album, I think LE is *over* produced, or at very > least not produced in a way that maximizes the > potential of the songs. I think that the songs > themselves are quite raw songs (unlike the songs > from, say, Pink or choirgirl, which are complex by > design), and they need to 'feel' raw ... a song like > PT seems, I dunno, kind of 'dumbed down' on the > studio disc. I think the guitar & drums on studio PT are much stronger than any live version I've heard. > Live (in all its incarnations) it is > one of the most powerful, moving, disturbing songs > I've ever heard (the "wash me clean Daddy, wash him > out of me" bit especially). Crucify too is a > wonderful song that seems a bit flat on the studio > disc. OMG you are on drugs. I almost *LOATHE* the live Crucify... (even the LE-era ones when she was half-decent @ reproducing them live) but love the studio one. She whines too much & uses the "heeee-eeeee-eeeeeee chaay-eee-aaa-eeeeeeeeeeeeens" bits to overkill live. Plus (gasp) dare I say this, it's dead boring solo piano. > But maybe that's not an overproduction problem > -- the single remix is better and is more > 'produced'. Gasp. The single version is a 'dumbed down' version of the studio one. See your own flawed studio PT logic above. > But, come to mention it, I often feel that Tori is > 'holding back' on her studio performances. Agreed sometimes.. BUT I'd rather she hold back than throw senseless "heeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee said yes girl (huge GASP inhalation.. then saliva drool)" bits [ala "Icicle" and practically every other song performed on the Strange Little Tour] as she does live. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] I think the b-sides have disappeared up Tori's b-side. Julian P wrote: > but most > of her pre-SLT live stuff is great Actually I didn't intend to 'knock' SLT as a whole.. In fact I prefer Tori solo on the whole than her Plugged 98-type stuff. > Oh, and it occurred to me on the bus today that LE > probably has the best bunch of b-sides of any era. Yuppo definitely. UTP had some good-un'z too. FTCH were OK but weren't enough of 'um. BFP were um... 'not as good' (to put it mildly). > Sure there are great b-sides from each of the other > eras (Sister Janet, Purple People, Never Seen Blue, > Butterfly etc) but as a collection, the LE b-sides > are the strongest. Does that count for something??? Also it's a shame I think that b-sides are now a thing of the past. Since FTCH, we've only had: (Siren if you want to count it) Purple People Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas [cover] Bachelorette Did It Again [cover] Cooling (recorded during BFP sessions) Never Seen Blue (recorded during BFP sessions) Beulah Land (recorded during BFP sessions) Merman Carnival [cover] After All [cover] Only Women Bleed [cover] ..so 11 in all in 5 years, only 3 of which are really 'new' Tori (ie, not cover) songs recorded post BFP. And singles are basically dead in the US, and UK singles haven't had their shit together since Spark... so duzn't look good for getting many (any?) new b-sides. Shame. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:25:31 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) > I will concede though (since I'm always the > gentleman) that many of Tori's renditions from SLT > were dead boring. Crucify on the wurli (or > practically anything else on the wurli) is right up > there with anaesthetic-less teeth pulling oh god yes. I was listening to it on a bootleg and was thinking from about 1:30 in "oh god will this ever end"...then "why do we crucify ourselves"...(note: absolutely pitiful attempt at humor) > And the SLT did produce the best ever > versions of Sugar, Lust and Butterfly. Lust = yes. Butterfly = didn't hear any recordings. Sugar = didn't hear and but I REFUSE to believe that it was better than Plugged 98. Nope, don't care to listen, shut up, talk to the hand, &c. > Oh, and it occurred to me on the bus today that LE > probably has the best bunch of b-sides of any era. Yes. But only if we're allowed to throw in the piano suite from UTP era. > Does that count for something??? Only for the fact that Tori shouldn't be allowed to choose tracklistings...she leaves all her best (or even just damn fine) material for the singles! Well, used to. Until recently she hasn't even put her best material on albums. ===== And I'm so sad like a good book I can't put this Day Back a sorta fairytale with you Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:01:13 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori Tour At 18:29 14/08/2002 +1000, Julian P wrote: >Sorry, call me naive, call me stupid, but I'm not yet ready to concede that Tori isn't come here. I refuse to give up hope! D'you know what - Tori shouldn't tour here. If she does come here, we'll all be SO full of HIGH expectations after 8+ years that her tour'll probably suck! :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:05:18 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Treasuretroversial opinions At 10:25 14/08/2002 +0100, Daniel wrote: >Only for the fact that Tori shouldn't be allowed to >choose tracklistings...she leaves all her best (or >even just damn fine) material for the singles! Well, >used to. Until recently she hasn't even put her best >material on albums. OMG! Maybe that means there is a whole SLG worth of Bee-sides out there that we've never heard - cause... well the album basically sucked... so the Bee-sides are probably stupendous! :) (OK I'm being facaetious (or am I) and talking about imaginary singles... :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:24:05 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) And the crowd hushed as Dan spoke thus: >oh god yes. I was listening to it on a bootleg and was >thinking from about 1:30 in "oh god will this ever >end"...then "why do we crucify ourselves"...(note: >absolutely pitiful attempt at humor) Lol! >Lust = yes. Butterfly = didn't hear any recordings. >Sugar = didn't hear and but I REFUSE to believe that >it was better than Plugged 98. Nope, don't care to >listen, shut up, talk to the hand, &c. Okay, you NEED the following: Lust from the Poland radio show (when she sings "and the weave" and her voice drops to this really low rich note ... it's just amazing) (oh, and PP and TTTS from Poland are amazing too!). Butterfly from Philadelphia 2001 ("fraaaaaamed aaaaaaand driiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiied" -- so powerful). Sugar from LA 2001 (she goes off on the "sweet, but not enough for them" ending) (but, yes, Sugar '98 was pretty damn amazing ... as was pretty much everything from '98, I don't care what Nayth says). Jules - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:28:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) Julian P wrote: > Okay, you NEED the following: > > Lust from the Poland radio show (when she sings "and > the weave" Excuse me for not having read the TVAB lyrics for a LONG time.. but I do NOT recall there being a "and the weave" in there?! *grants you provisional 'lyrical dyslexia' diagnosis... awaiting further 'tests'* > and her voice drops to this really low > rich note ... it's just amazing) (oh, and PP and > TTTS from Poland are amazing too!). The Poland concert is generally good in that the audience are QUIET while she plays. And they don't do the fooking annoying 'clap.. clap' bits in TTTS. > I don't care what Nayth says). Yes you do. And if you dare to disagree you can promptly leave this list :P Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:40:40 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) Poor, misguided Nathan wrote: >Excuse me for not having read the TVAB lyrics for a >LONG time.. but I do NOT recall there being a "and the >weave" in there?! *grants you provisional 'lyrical >dyslexia' diagnosis... awaiting further 'tests'* It's one of those background lyrics that she sings live ... like she does, say, with Talula plugged or the tubular bells version of Father Lucifer. (And although not lyrics per se, she also puts the background vocal noises from Cruel and Riot Poof into the main vocals live.) It's not printed in the lyrics though. Listen to the live 2001 version (she doesn't do it in the 99 version) and then listen to the studio disc. Or are you one of those EWF that finds TVAB distasteful? ;-) > I don't care what Nayth says. >Yes you do. And if you dare to disagree you can >promptly leave this list :P Yowza. ;-) On a slightly unrelated note, who started this list anyhoo? Jules got a pig hidin' in a truffle - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) Julian "some people say he has a deathwish, trouble is he tends to agree" P wrote: > Poor, misguided Nathan wrote: > > > >Excuse me for not having read the TVAB lyrics for a > >LONG time.. but I do NOT recall there being a "and > the > >weave" in there?! *grants you provisional 'lyrical > >dyslexia' diagnosis... awaiting further 'tests'* > > > It's one of those background lyrics that she sings > live ... like she does, say, with Talula plugged or > the tubular bells version of Father Lucifer. It's not really a 'version' of Father Lucifer, as she just tacked a bit onto the end of it - ie, it's not a reworking of the *entire* song. > Or are you one of those EWF that > finds TVAB distasteful? ;-) I like TVAB actually (well the studio disc.. The live one is another story). > > I don't care what Nayth says. > > >Yes you do. And if you dare to disagree you can > >promptly leave this list :P > > Yowza. ;-) On a slightly unrelated note, who started > this list anyhoo? Dan Gee did apparently. Dan Gee spawned a monster. > got a pig hidin' in a truffle "I'll find you my pretty" :P Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:59:01 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) nastyandoverlypedanticnayth wrote: >It's not really a 'version' of Father Lucifer, as she >just tacked a bit onto the end of it - ie, it's not a >reworking of the *entire* song. She sings the background vocals during the bidge, she sings different lyrics at the end, she performed it this way on consecutive occasions, it's a "version". What's your aversion to "version"? >I like TVAB actually (well the studio disc.. The live >one is another story). Oh my God ... could it actually be ... we agree on something? Anyone planning a trip to hell might want to pack their woolies. >Yowza. ;-) On a slightly unrelated note, who started >this list anyhoo? >Dan Gee did apparently. Dan Gee spawned a monster. Mental image of Dan as Victor Frankenstein (not that I have any idea what either look like ... ). >got a pig hidin' in a truffle >"I'll find you my pretty" :P err, *right* Jules - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) Julian P wrote: > nastyandoverlypedanticnayth wrote: Yay I've reclaimed my pedant title. > >It's not really a 'version' of Father Lucifer, as > she > >just tacked a bit onto the end of it - ie, it's not > a > >reworking of the *entire* song. > > She sings the background vocals during the bidge, > she sings different lyrics at the end, she performed > it this way on consecutive occasions, it's a > "version". What's your aversion to "version"? I state it's a *medley* of Father Lucifer/Tubular Bells/Smalltown Boy (the "run away, turn away, run away" bits are from Bronski Beat's 'Smalltown Boy'), not a 'version' of just Father Lucifer. "Version" would be perhaps if Tori changed the melody of the Father Lucifer bits or did something drastic to them ala the Merry Widow VERSION of Professional Widow on the US Hey Jupiter EP. But as it stands, the Father Lucifer parts of this *medley* stay fairly true to the original studio recording; and hence it could not be considered a true 'version'. > >I like TVAB actually (well the studio disc.. The > live > >one is another story). > > > Oh my God ... could it actually be ... we agree on > something? Anyone planning a trip to hell might want > to pack their woolies. Heheheh. (and 'shesheshe' for the feministz among us) > Mental image of Dan as Victor Frankenstein (not that > I have any idea what either look like ... ). Dan's skin does have a rather lovely green tinge to it. > >got a pig hidin' in a truffle > > >"I'll find you my pretty" :P > > err, *right* Watch and learn. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:16:08 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) >Yay I've reclaimed my pedant title. Lol, I'm glad you're happy about that ... there's nothing wrong with being a pedant. Some of my best friends are pedants. ;-) (and I am *not* kidding!!) >"Version" would be perhaps if Tori changed the melody >of the Father Lucifer bits or did something drastic to >them ala the Merry Widow VERSION of Professional Widow >on the US Hey Jupiter EP. But as it stands, the >Father Lucifer parts of this *medley* stay fairly true >to the original studio recording; and hence it could >not be considered a true 'version'. Either way, she sings the "go away world ... " bit during the bridge which is a background lyric in the studio version and not in the lyric book. Okay? Okay??? > >got a pig hidin' in a truffle > > >"I'll find you my pretty" :P > > err, *right* >Watch and learn. ????????? meep. Jules gettin' very scared - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) Julian P wrote: > >Yay I've reclaimed my pedant title. > > Lol, I'm glad you're happy about that ... there's > nothing wrong with being a pedant. Some of my best > friends are pedants. ;-) (and I am *not* kidding!!) That you have friends? Gasp ;) > Either way, she sings the "go away world ... " bit > during the bridge which is a background lyric in the > studio version and not in the lyric book. Okay? > Okay??? Big deal. She sings "Peace love and a hard cock" on the studio Pro Widow and those lyrics aren't in the book either. *gasp* there are no lyrics at all on the SLG sleeves. So using that line of logic, each performance of an SLG song live must be a new 'version' of it, hey? > ????????? meep. Now you're trying to be Beaker from the Muppets (and this was NOT an invitation to start up another huge Muppet thread, people [presuming anyone is still reading our pointless banter]). > Jules > > gettin' very scared "teach me how to love my brothers who don't know the law". Oooooooooh consecutive Tori lyrics. What has become of my e-mails? Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:37:46 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Controversial opinions expressed inside - don't look if you've got a weak stomach (was Re: [oztori] selective reply-itis) I have made my chai tea and am off to salvage what is left of the evening by reading one of the books in my 'to read' pile, but I wish you to note that I concede precisely none of the points presently being mooted. I shall do battle with you anon. Jules who, as it happens, does a rather fucking fantastic Beaker impression ... Nathan . wrote: Julian P wrote: > >Yay I've reclaimed my pedant title. > > Lol, I'm glad you're happy about that ... there's > nothing wrong with being a pedant. Some of my best > friends are pedants. ;-) (and I am *not* kidding!!) That you have friends? Gasp ;) > Either way, she sings the "go away world ... " bit > during the bridge which is a background lyric in the > studio version and not in the lyric book. Okay? > Okay??? Big deal. She sings "Peace love and a hard cock" on the studio Pro Widow and those lyrics aren't in the book either. *gasp* there are no lyrics at all on the SLG sleeves. So using that line of logic, each performance of an SLG song live must be a new 'version' of it, hey? > ????????? meep. Now you're trying to be Beaker from the Muppets (and this was NOT an invitation to start up another huge Muppet thread, people [presuming anyone is still reading our pointless banter]). > Jules > > gettin' very scared "teach me how to love my brothers who don't know the law". Oooooooooh consecutive Tori lyrics. What has become of my e-mails? Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:04:26 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] muppets (nayth don't read...its your own fault anyway) > > ????????? meep. > > Now you're trying to be Beaker from the Muppets (and > this was NOT an invitation to start up another huge > Muppet thread, people [presuming anyone is still > reading our pointless banter]). speaking of muppets, has anyone else seen the videoclip for weezer's "Gone Fishin'"? its got the muppets in it! its brilliant! xo dan frankenstein ===== And I'm so sad like a good book I can't put this Day Back a sorta fairytale with you Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:33:14 +0000 From: "Will Johncock" Subject: [oztori] Re: oztori-digest V2 #236 Jas if you're in sydney on the 23rd we could compare Uni of Canberra impressions and south coast notes haha. Hope those kangaroos are still bouncing round there :) Will _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:31:14 +0000 From: "Will Johncock" Subject: [oztori] rawness vs lushness... Yeh I think Pele's rawness is unique amongst her albums. Even compared to little earthquakes, I mean production wise it's in a league of its own but I'm not sure if I'd describe it as raw. The songs just seem a lot more raw to me and bare boned, it's wierd because some people consider the later tracks in this album to be very lush in composition, whereas I feel the exact opposite. It just blows me away how complex this album is. As for Strange Little Girls, does anyone ever think that she perhaps tried too hard to stray from the original versions and so they became a bit less natural in terms of how she would otherwise have performed them. I love a lot of her interpretations, but sometimes I wonder how Heart of Gold for instance would have sounded if she'd just sung it as Neil Young does. It's such a beautiful song anyway and with her voicings it would be incredible. Having said that I always loved the way she fucked with losing my religion and smells like teen spirit etc, so its all good :) BEC!!! i soooooooooo totally agree on the lust thing, live it is like totally a different song to me. And Kate you have a very cool mum if she's going to get you over to the UK for your 21st. Of course if you could time it with a Tori tour it would be perfect! I'm coming into some money in the coming months and am thinking of rocking over the UK or US when shes touring to see her hopefully and of course do other things. I just have to resist the urge to buy another guitar! Cheers, Will xo _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Too Much" <2much@elvis.com> Subject: [oztori] Fwd: Breaking Tori News! Thought this was quite ironic. Especially "You've heard about it on the web, now actually hear "a sorta fairytale!" I mean, even I've heard it by now (ta Nayth)... H. ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Subject: Breaking Tori News! From: "Tori Amos Team" Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:22:34 -0700 To: "Tori Amos Fan" <2much@elvis.com> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | www.toriamos.com | | A Fanscape Streetteam | | 8.14.02 | Fellow Tori Fans ~ | Exclusive Team News | You are the first to get word! This Friday AOL First Listen will feature the exclusive premiere of Tori's new song,"a sorta fairytale," for three days. 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SUBSCRIBE - ------- End of forwarded message ------- too much of a diary: http://2much.livejournal.com/ and you can laugh a spineless laugh we hope your rules and wisdom choke you - ------------------------------------------------- Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Fwd: Breaking Tori News! Too Much <2much@elvis.com> wrote: > Thought this was quite ironic. Especially "You've > heard about it on the > web, now actually hear "a sorta fairytale!" I mean, > even I've heard it by > now (ta Nayth)... H. lol. Just goes to prove the ppl who write these things have absolutely NO idea what they are on about. from that stoopid forward: > You are the first to get word! This Friday AOL First > Listen will feature > the exclusive premiere of Tori's new song,"a sorta > fairytale," A mere month and 7 days since 'twas first leaked on the net. > Tell all of your online friends and family LMAO! Whose "family" could give a shit that Tori's new song is getting an 'exclusive' airing online?!! > about > this amazing opportunity > to hear Tori's unreleased song. Oh amazing. And 'unreleased'.. gasp. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:21:14 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dylan=20Plant?= Subject: [oztori] Fwd: Breaking Tori News! LOL bit late!!!!!!!! Oh well and in other news, my brain is about to fall out my ears - data entry is just sooo exciting... --- Tori Amos Team wrote: > From: "Tori Amos Team" > To: "Tori Amos Fan" > Subject: Breaking Tori News! > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:21:20 -0700 > Fellow Tori Fans Exclusive Team News You are the first to get word! This Friday AOL First Listen will feature the exclusive premiere of Tori's new song,"a sorta fairytale," for three days. You've heard about it (LOL I've heard it on the web) on the web, now actually hear "a sorta fairytale!" Look for it from AOL Keyword: First Listen and on the Web at Netscape, AIM Today, ICQ and CompuServe. Tell all of your online friends and family about this amazing opportunity to hear Tori's unreleased song. Enjoy. Sara Tori Amos Online Team Leader ===== Cheers dylan http://digital.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Digital How To - - Get the best out of your PC! ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #237 ****************************