From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #230 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Thursday, August 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 230 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] more info on Silbury Hill [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course ["Lavenda" ] [oztori] Fw: [ToriTour Other] matt chamberlain update ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course ["Bindy ." ] RE: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course ["Bevan Burkin" Subject: Re: [oztori] more info on Silbury Hill At 14:57 7/08/2002 +1000, Lavenda wrote: >just in case any one out there is still curious: >http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives/rdtrn/199908/msg00014.html#2 > >X >Lavs >(Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) Thanks for that Lavs, I noticed there was a post of yours from 1999 further down the page! :) What music are you playing to current "womb resident"? :o) Also the links given go to pages with some crop-circles involved with Silbury Hill and Stone Henge... very interesting. Some of those patterns are remarkable, not just the patterns, but the 'shading' of them if you know what I mean, give them a three dimensional look. Maybe Tori is really saying "(Jane) Siberry Hill" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:01:14 +0800 From: "Bevan Burkin" Subject: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course hi all just for anybody who is interested ... i watched the lord of the rings today (first time) ... is it like a gay pride movie or something? lol .. frodo and sam are just .. so fucking together! i was laughing all the way through ... especially at the end. i always go ga ga over a guy with blue eyes and black hair ... *sigh* still - did anybody else "notice" what i am "noticing" ??!! bevan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 05:52:11 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] more info on Silbury Hill > Thanks for that Lavs, I noticed there was a post of yours from 1999 further > down the page! :) :/ should have read the whole page before sending that link off! (heehee... now you've made me paranoid and I'll have to go back and see what I wrote!) > What music are you playing to current "womb resident"? :o) The last few days it's been 'Bear in the Big Blue House' (for Tiarna). It's only about now they say the baby can hear from the womb (I guess they mean be able to distinguish sounds), so I'm going to have to get cracking on that. I will be starting to go through stuff to make up a tape or two to play during labour/delivery, so there'll be a big mix of stuff in the near future. X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 05:54:07 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course > i watched the lord of the rings today (first time) ... is it like a gay > pride movie or something? lol .. frodo and sam are just .. so fucking > together! > > i was laughing all the way through ... especially at the end. > > i always go ga ga over a guy with blue eyes and black hair ... *sigh* > > still - did anybody else "notice" what i am "noticing" ??!! Well, they were very buddy buddy, and that seems to be all it takes. If there's Kirk/Spock fanfic out there, then there's bound to be Frodo/Sam stuff too. ARGH! Curiosity killed the cat, but I'm gonna look for it anyway... X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:16:48 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] more info on Silbury Hill > :/ should have read the whole page before sending that link off! (heehee... > now you've made me paranoid and I'll have to go back and see what I wrote!) oh, a shower scene post. :) (and the in utero music, along with my usual crap :) X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:06:41 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: [oztori] Fw: [ToriTour Other] matt chamberlain update For anyone who may have missed it... > according to matt chamberlain's latest news update http://www.mattchamberlain.com/ >, tori's next tour have been moved back a > month, with the rehearsals in cornwall starting to late august (note the > last few sentences of the news update below). > > 8-05-2002 > > The last month has been pretty chilled out--I went out to boston > to visit the Zildjian cymbal factory for a couple of days. Those > guys are making some amazing stuff out there.Then went to NYC to > do a session with an artist named bonnie mckee for a couple of > days -- flew to nashville to do a drum clinic and check out the > vintage drum show---thanks to everyone that made it out! Spent a > week in L.A. recording a record with producer steve > thompson(anthrax,metallica) got to rock out.I am now in L.A. > rehearsing with Gavin Rossdale( singer for Bush) for the Jay Leno > show on tues. the 6th of aug.-----I'll be going to the burning > man festival the last week of aug.---then finally out to cornwall > for a couple of weeks rehearsal with Tori--everything got pushed > back a month. I guess she didn't want to put her record out > anywhere near the anniversary of sept 11th--bye for now > > this dovetails nicely with rumors on the atforumz tori forum that the tour > will start in early november. > > woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:36:33 +0800 From: "Bevan Burkin" Subject: RE: [oztori] Fw: [ToriTour Other] matt chamberlain update so, she can tour usa and europe in november, december and be in Australia for January - maybe she will play the big day out? *giggle* maybe she'll put us "back" another seven or eight years :( - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Lavenda Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:07 AM To: Oztorians Subject: [oztori] Fw: [ToriTour Other] matt chamberlain update For anyone who may have missed it... > according to matt chamberlain's latest news update http://www.mattchamberlain.com/ >, tori's next tour have been moved back a > month, with the rehearsals in cornwall starting to late august (note the > last few sentences of the news update below). > > 8-05-2002 > > The last month has been pretty chilled out--I went out to boston > to visit the Zildjian cymbal factory for a couple of days. Those > guys are making some amazing stuff out there.Then went to NYC to > do a session with an artist named bonnie mckee for a couple of > days -- flew to nashville to do a drum clinic and check out the > vintage drum show---thanks to everyone that made it out! Spent a > week in L.A. recording a record with producer steve > thompson(anthrax,metallica) got to rock out.I am now in L.A. > rehearsing with Gavin Rossdale( singer for Bush) for the Jay Leno > show on tues. the 6th of aug.-----I'll be going to the burning > man festival the last week of aug.---then finally out to cornwall > for a couple of weeks rehearsal with Tori--everything got pushed > back a month. I guess she didn't want to put her record out > anywhere near the anniversary of sept 11th--bye for now > > this dovetails nicely with rumors on the atforumz tori forum that the tour > will start in early november. > > woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:36:42 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course yes, of course!!!!!! everyone did! it's not just frodo and sam - what about aragorn/legolas/gimli? what about the part where gandalf (ian mckellen, of course) WINKS at elrond (hugo weaving, the gayest str8 guy in the universe)? go here, right now! http://diaries.diagon.org >i watched the lord of the rings today (first time) ... is it like a gay >pride movie or something? lol .. frodo and sam are just .. so fucking >together! >still - did anybody else "notice" what i am "noticing" ??!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:36:17 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course At 22:01 7/08/2002 +0800, Bevan Burkin wrote: >hi all > >just for anybody who is interested ... > >i watched the lord of the rings today (first time) ... is it like a gay >pride movie or something? lol .. frodo and sam are just .. so fucking >together! > >i was laughing all the way through ... especially at the end. > >i always go ga ga over a guy with blue eyes and black hair ... *sigh* > >still - did anybody else "notice" what i am "noticing" ??!! > >bevan Yes, Bevan, you could take it like that if you wanted to. Sigh ;o) Why can't good friends be just good friends anymore? Also remember there is the whole "Sam is a simple, loyal servant of Frodo's." Breaking that barrier would have been a big thing in England - especailly the England that Tolkien grew up in. England is STILL very much a class-based society is it not? You'd think several World Wars would break down those barriers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:40:22 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Rori Rour At 09:36 8/08/2002 +0800, Bevan Burkin wrote: >so, she can tour usa and europe in november, december and be in Australia >for January - maybe she will play the big day out? *giggle* > Urk - I'd rather have Tori NOT come to Australia if all she did was play BDO's. >maybe she'll put us "back" another seven or eight years :( I think Tori's drug-fucked brain thinks that the world is flat and that if she goes too far she'll drop off the edge! :o) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:54:49 +1000 From: "Bindy ." Subject: Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course AndrewR said Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:36:17 +1000 >Yes, Bevan, you could take it like that if you wanted to. Sigh ;o) Why >can't good friends be just good friends anymore? Also remember there >is >the whole "Sam is a simple, loyal servant of Frodo's." Breaking >that >barrier would have been a big thing in England - especailly the >England >that Tolkien grew up in. England is STILL very much a class->based society >is it not? You'd think several World Wars would break >down those barriers. Ohhhh! Thank you Andrew! I thought I was the only one who thought that whole "look into the gay cliches" in the movie was stretching things too far! I agree with you totally. ~Bindy Go to: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cancerian/ for Ramblings From The Moon Child _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:13:00 +0800 From: "Bevan Burkin" Subject: RE: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course fuck - i wish i had friends that looked at me like that .. the sort of .. even tho there are orcs coming .. lets fuck now kind of look ... lol they could have portrayed them as "good friends" without all the goo goo eyes and smiles and bated breath, and "servant" lol ... i never got that impression (from the movie) .. it is classic how it ends .. the two of them .. lol lol lol .. sharing a hug and looking at the sunset *giggle* also the bit at the start where sam is nervous to ask the girl to dance coz he has frodo's attention - i think there is more to those two hobbits that meets the eye which makes me wonder if their feet have any influence on other parts? ok - leaving now - messing with my own mind! ;) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of AndrewR Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:36 PM To: Oztori@Smoe.Org Subject: Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course At 22:01 7/08/2002 +0800, Bevan Burkin wrote: >hi all > >just for anybody who is interested ... > >i watched the lord of the rings today (first time) ... is it like a gay >pride movie or something? lol .. frodo and sam are just .. so fucking >together! > >i was laughing all the way through ... especially at the end. > >i always go ga ga over a guy with blue eyes and black hair ... *sigh* > >still - did anybody else "notice" what i am "noticing" ??!! > >bevan Yes, Bevan, you could take it like that if you wanted to. Sigh ;o) Why can't good friends be just good friends anymore? Also remember there is the whole "Sam is a simple, loyal servant of Frodo's." Breaking that barrier would have been a big thing in England - especailly the England that Tolkien grew up in. England is STILL very much a class-based society is it not? You'd think several World Wars would break down those barriers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:13:02 +0800 From: "Bevan Burkin" Subject: RE: [oztori] Rori Rour Urk - I'd rather have Tori NOT come to Australia if all she did was play BDO's. Really? I WOULD .. good chance to let all the other people in Perth know that i am a *MAD* TORI FAN >I think Tori's drug-fucked brain thinks that the world is flat and >>that if >she goes too far she'll drop off the edge! :o) That, or the turtle got lost ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:16:03 +0800 From: "Bevan Burkin" Subject: RE: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course Bindy said: Ohhhh! Thank you Andrew! I thought I was the only one who thought that whole "look into the gay cliches" in the movie was stretching things too far! I agree with you totally. Bevan says: Fabulous, darling, I disagree. Loved the way you cliched the cliche. So cliche. Stretching things too far? Now that, love, is the adults only version. The gay superman thing is stretching things, here we have a movie with two men making GOO GOO eyes at each other! lol I think Nina agrees as well! Thats makes it a draw. Can you draw? ~Bevan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:14:43 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: RE: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course At 15:13 8/08/2002 +0800, Bevan Burkin wrote: >fuck - i wish i had friends that looked at me like that .. the sort of .. >even tho there are orcs coming .. lets fuck now kind of look ... lol > >they could have portrayed them as "good friends" without all the goo goo >eyes and smiles and bated breath, and "servant" lol ... i never got that >impression (from the movie) .. it is classic how it ends .. the two of them >.. lol lol lol .. sharing a hug and looking at the sunset *giggle* > Well, Sam is a protective, loyal servant to his "Mr. Frodo". >also the bit at the start where sam is nervous to ask the girl to dance coz >he has frodo's attention - i think there is more to those two hobbits that >meets the eye > You should read the book - That's Rosie Cotton - you'll be seeing more of her in The Return of the King. Really though, Frodo and Sam are the bestest of friends - they'd do anything for each other (as you will see in the following movies) They are basically following each other into hell... you don't have to be "sexual partners" to love someone or be the best of friends with someone. But, I am LOL'ing at your 'impression' though Bevan, don't think I'm getting all persnickity at what you are saying. (I don't care if persnickity is spelt wrong or in the wrong context - you know what I mean, I just want to use the word. LOL!) >which makes me wonder if their feet have any influence on other parts? > >ok - leaving now - messing with my own mind! ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of >AndrewR >Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:36 PM >To: Oztori@Smoe.Org >Subject: Re: [oztori] lord of the rings - ot of course > > >At 22:01 7/08/2002 +0800, Bevan Burkin wrote: >>hi all >> >>just for anybody who is interested ... >> >>i watched the lord of the rings today (first time) ... is it like a gay >>pride movie or something? lol .. frodo and sam are just .. so fucking >>together! >> >>i was laughing all the way through ... especially at the end. >> >>i always go ga ga over a guy with blue eyes and black hair ... *sigh* >> >>still - did anybody else "notice" what i am "noticing" ??!! >> >>bevan > >Yes, Bevan, you could take it like that if you wanted to. Sigh ;o) Why >can't good friends be just good friends anymore? Also remember there is the >whole "Sam is a simple, loyal servant of Frodo's." Breaking that barrier >would have been a big thing in England - especailly the England that >Tolkien grew up in. England is STILL very much a class-based society is it >not? You'd think several World Wars would break down those barriers. ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #230 ****************************