From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #198 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Tuesday, July 9 2002 Volume 02 : Number 198 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] Scarlet's Walk title apparently "confirmed" [AndrewR ] [oztori] cdnow article [Jonceski Jasmina ] [oztori] Track-listing for Scarlet's Walk................(hypothetical, of course ;) [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] cdnow article [Nadyne Mielke ] [oztori] American HisTori (this ought to be right up Roozi n' E's alley ;) [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] cdnow article [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: [oztori] American HisTori (this ought to be right up Roozi n' E's alley ;) [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: [oztori] American HisTori (this ought to be right up Roozi n' E's alley ;) [Nathan "®" ] [oztori] Porn/Another comment re: the Sept. 11. theme [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale [=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale ["lb" ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairy*truth* [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairy*truth* ["lb" ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairy*truth* [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale [Nadyne Mielke ] [oztori] #oztori [Nathan "®" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 18:46:46 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Scarlet's Walk title apparently "confirmed" At 11:31 8/07/2002 GMT, Rebecca Appleton wrote: >On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:22:06 -0700 (PDT), Nathan ". wrote: >>Worse still, "A Sorta Fairytale" title confirmed also: > >Both titles were confirmed a while ago in Neil Gaiman's online >journal, iirc... > >~Becc :) Yeah, but this was the guy who said SLG was Tori's BEST work EVER! Clearly he hadn't heard Y Kant Tori Read! :o) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 19:18:56 +1000 From: "cåth ." Subject: [oztori] re: Avril Lavigne >>>The track info for "Losing Grip" says: "Let Go (Advanced)" I'm guessing >>>an advanced copy? yup, it's been online for almost 2 months.... >>>poor Cath, I think it's time for an intervention ;) pphhffttt, fanson for life *grins* <3 cath _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:13:51 +1000 From: Jonceski Jasmina Subject: [oztori] cdnow article July 8, 2002, 11:30 am PT Native American history, pornography, Oliver Stone, and Andrew Jackson are just some of the subject matter on Tori Amos' forthcoming America- themed new album, Scarlet's Walk, according to a spokesperson for the singer. As for the album's namesake, Scarlet "may be the land and may be a person and may be a trail of blood" and is the personification of everyone's search for answers, as the story of the album goes. The album's musical and lyrical journey was inspired by the tragic events of Sept. 11 -- the album was written entirely after the attacks on America while Amos was on the road. Scarlet's Walk -- Amos' ninth -- is set for an Oct. 15 release date on Epic Records in the U.S. (Oct. 14 internationally) and was produced by the often-eccentric singer-songwriter-pianist in Cornwall, England. Drummer Matt Chamberlain and bassist Jon Evans once again appear on the album, which is Amos' first release under her new deal with the Sony label. (She had previously recorded for Atlantic Records, with her last album being 2001's covers album Strange Little Girls.) The first single, "A Sorta Fairytale," will hit radio Aug. 27, while Amos will kick off a headline U.S. tour this fall with an international trek to follow. **** I thought the album was in the works for 3 years...what happened to that idea? And what does 'internation trek' mean? How international we talking here? Jas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:46:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article Jonceski Jasmina wrote, quoting the cdnow article: > July 8, 2002, 11:30 am PT > > Native American history, pornography, Oliver Stone, > and Andrew Jackson OK, I think most of y'all know I'm pretty 'ignorant' when it comes to certain things... but who/what TF is Andrew Jackson??! I swear I've never heard of him before. I presume he's not one of LaToya's siblings ;) > are just some of the subject matter on Tori Amos' > forthcoming America- > themed new album, Scarlet's Walk, according to a > spokesperson for the > singer. Wasn't pornography supposedly a topic adressed on SLG? > As for the album's namesake, Scarlet "may be the > land and may be a > person and may be a trail of blood" and is the > personification of > everyone's search for answers, as the story of the > album goes. The > album's musical and lyrical journey was inspired by > the tragic events > of Sept. 11 -- the album was written entirely after > the attacks on > America while Amos was on the road. So much for the "Tori has been working on these songs for 3 years" claim then. And the 'Snow Cherries From France may appear on this album' rumours. > Scarlet's Walk -- Amos' ninth -- *cough* NINTH? They'd have to count: 1) YKTR 2) LE 3) UTP 4) BFP 5) FTCH 6) TVAB studio 7) TVAB live 8) SLG 9) this one. > is set for an Oct. > 15 release date on > Epic Records in the U.S. (Oct. 14 internationally) > and was produced by > the often-eccentric singer-songwriter-pianist in > Cornwall, England. > Drummer Matt Chamberlain and bassist Jon Evans once > again appear on the > album, She needs some new blood. I'd like to see Tori completely do all the instrumentation on one of her albums! - ie, have her take up the drums, bass etc. > which is Amos' first release under her new > deal with the Sony > label. (She had previously recorded for Atlantic > Records, with her last > album being 2001's covers album Strange Little > Girls.) > > The first single, "A Sorta Fairytale," will hit > radio Aug. 27, while > Amos will kick off a headline U.S. tour this fall > with an international > trek to follow. Presumably not involving the southern hemisphere? Now Jaz's own words: > I thought the album was in the works for 3 > years...what happened to > that idea? Yes indeed. Everyone seemed to assume that Tori had been withholding a bunch of songs she'd written from Atlantic (which is supposedly why she did SLG instead) - - saving them for her new label. The post Sept. 11 thing, if true, has me slightly worried.. "Everyone" seemed to complain that TVAB was rushed, and then SLG was just done quickly as well.. and most people tend to think that these are her weakest 2 albums. Although apparently there is/was some rumour going around that Tori would have ANOTHER album out around February (what, is she trying to be Prince?) - in which case, maybe *this* has the supposed been-held-onto-for-3-years songs. But then, "they" also rumoured that the follow up to SLG would be out last December, and that never eventuateed. Also, re: the 'rushing' thing.. Tori knew at that press meeting thing in January that this album would be out in September... Which only in effect gave her 4 months to know what was going to be on the album post Sept. 11. > And what does 'internation trek' mean? How > international we talking > here? Yes indeed. If this album sucks, we can hold the Taliban accountable ;) Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:56:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Track-listing for Scarlet's Walk................(hypothetical, of course ;) The track-listing follows the 9-11 theme intently: 1. Another Pilot Down (newly-recorded and retitled version of Not the Red Baron) 2. Take To The Sky (re-recorded as a painful ballad, including 60-piece string ensemble) 3. Flying Dutchman (re-recorded, slowed-down and done with Tori completely whispering the vocals) 4. A Sordid Faerytale (the new single - the press-release had got the title wrong) 5. Learn To Fly (unreleased song from LE demos era) 6. 911 is a Joke (cover of Public Enemy song) 7. Shoot the Dog (cover of George Michael's new single which apparently has an anti-American theme) 8. September (cover of the song covered by Past to Present in 1996 [?]) 9. Falling (Theme from Twin Peaks) [cover of the Julee Cruise song - sung as a tribute to the twin towers] 10. Norab Der Eht Ton (Reprise) [Not the Red Baron played backwards, revealing the hidden message: "I know the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden"] Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:43:17 GMT From: Rebecca Appleton Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:13:51 +1000, Jonceski Jasmina wrote: >As for the album's namesake, Scarlet "may be the land and may be a >person and may be a trail of blood" and is the personification of >everyone's search for answers, as the story of the album goes. The >album's musical and lyrical journey was inspired by the tragic >events >of Sept. 11 -- the album was written entirely after the attacks on >America while Amos was on the road. Hrm. I wish I hadn't read this, now that I've already done so (damn!). I just hope that when they say "inspired by" Sept 11, they're not meaning that she's singing directly or obviously about that event (in which case I'm going to really criiiinge) but that it has inspired her to think about something a little more universal. ~Becc - -- www.crappism.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 20:28:14 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article At 18:46 08-07-02 -0700, Nathan "." wrote: >OK, I think most of y'all know I'm pretty 'ignorant' >when it comes to certain things... but who/what TF is >Andrew Jackson??! I swear I've never heard of him >before. I presume he's not one of LaToya's siblings >;) Nicknamed "Old Hickory", Andrew Jackson was the seventh president of the US. He was a pretty pushy old bastard, and very set in the belief that the presidency alone represented the will of the people. He used the power of veto pretty extensively, leading his opponents to call him "King Andrew I". His presidency firmly established the spoils system in American politics. >So much for the "Tori has been working on these songs >for 3 years" claim then. And the 'Snow Cherries From >France may appear on this album' rumours. Neil Gaiman said in his journal that 'Snow Cherries' hasn't been recorded yet. > > Scarlet's Walk -- Amos' ninth -- >*cough* NINTH? >They'd have to count: Technically, TVaB counts as two albums, so their count is correct. There's also the question of the upcoming Atlantic best-of retrospective. [snip] >Also, re: the 'rushing' thing.. If we're going to talk about rushing, what about BfP? Look at how many of those songs were things she just sat down and played, some of which she had to go back and listen to the tapes to learn for her tour. >Tori knew at that >press meeting thing in January that this album would >be out in September... Which only in effect gave her 4 >months to know what was going to be on the album post >Sept. 11. Regardless, having a date in mind for the release doesn't mean that the album was done -- or even anywhere near -- at that point. For all we know, she didn't have anything set down on tape at that point. This scenario seems pretty likely, since Gaiman has recently said that he has a very preliminary version of it on CD-R. If that's all that exists six months after the release, it strikes me as likely that all she had was a concept and maybe some song ideas floating around in her head. Given how mutable Tori's album lineups have been in the past (witness 'Honey' getting pulled at the last minute from UtP, or a billion other examples), I don't think it's at all valid to say that Tori only had four months to know what was going to be on the album. But I'm entirely talking out of my arse here, so who knows? :) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:16:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] American HisTori (this ought to be right up Roozi n' E's alley ;) Nadyne Mielke wrote: > Nicknamed "Old Hickory", Andrew Jackson was the > seventh president of the > US. *snip* Thanks 4 da info tid-bit. Hehehe.. I obviously 'skipped class' (to use the US lingo) the day American history was taught in school. Although... this means that "Here. In My Head" would not be out of place on the new album - with its Thomas Jefferson references n' all. > Neil Gaiman said in his journal that 'Snow Cherries' > hasn't been recorded yet. Yes I heard this. Although some Denters are speculating (and probably rationally so, IMO) that "Snow Cherries From France" is just some bullshit title that Tori & Neil have going for fun as a joke against all of "us". The title sounds pretty ridiculous (though Tori certainly does have some ridiculous song-titles), and they probably just thought they'd have a joke at "our" gullible-ness. > > > Scarlet's Walk -- Amos' ninth -- > >*cough* NINTH? > >They'd have to count: > > Technically, TVaB counts as two albums, so their > count is correct. Not really. YKTR is *not* a Tori Amos release. > There's > also the question of the upcoming Atlantic best-of > retrospective. Upcoming as of when though? I remember when the live disc of TVAB was referred to as "her greatest hits life" (*snigger*) here on TV. > If we're going to talk about rushing, what about > BfP? Look at how many of > those songs were things she just sat down and > played, some of which she had > to go back and listen to the tapes to learn for her > tour. I think the 'quality' of such BFP-era songs as Agent Orange, Sister Named Desire, Amazing Grace/Til the Chicken, etc. validates my concerns re: 'rushing' ;) One would certainly hope that Tori did *not* spend painstaking hours over those 'songs' to get them "right" ;) > >Tori knew at that > >press meeting thing in January that this album > would > >be out in September... Which only in effect gave > her 4 > >months to know what was going to be on the album > post > >Sept. 11. > > Regardless, having a date in mind for the release > doesn't mean that the > album was done -- or even anywhere near -- at that > point. For all we know, > she didn't have anything set down on tape at that > point. This scenario > seems pretty likely, since Gaiman has recently said > that he has a very > preliminary version of it on CD-R. If that's all > that exists six months > after the release, it strikes me as likely that all > she had was a concept > and maybe some song ideas floating around in her > head. But even so.. when you are working to a 'deadline' as such (and she did say Sept 24th, apparently... funny how a seemingly random date 'plucked out of the air' also happened to fall on a Tuesday - the day that new releases come out in the US), can you be your creative best? > Given how mutable Tori's album lineups have been in > the past (witness > 'Honey' getting pulled at the last minute from UtP, Everyone always winges over this, but I can't see "Honey" fitting onto UTP too well myself at all. I think Tori made the right choice. (although how "The Waitress" even got recorded at all is beyond me). And for the record, I think "The Wrong Band" is brill. > or a billion other > examples), I don't think it's at all valid to say > that Tori only had four > months to know what was going to be on the album. > > But I'm entirely talking out of my arse here, so who > knows? :) I do it all the time :) Rebecca Appleton wrote: > Hrm. I wish I hadn't read this, now that I've > already done so > (damn!). I just hope that when they say "inspired > by" Sept 11, > they're not meaning that she's singing directly or > obviously about > that event (in which case I'm going to really > criiiinge) but that it > has inspired her to think about something a little > more universal. I think Tori secretly got together a group of US muzak celebs, and "Scarlet's Walk" is really a whole charity album - ala "We Are the World 2002". Expect to see Mariah et. al. doing over-dramatized (with the 'z') 'emotive' singing/screaming with headphones above their ears in the vid. The "60 piece string set" is really a euphemism for Tori's puppets - she got all of the US music celebs together and pulled their strings to make them record the album with her. Although, if this does really eventuate, at least there's the slight possibility of Tori appearing on record with Destiny's Child, which would 'rock my world' :) Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:21:17 +1000 From: "Bindy ." Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article Jas wrote: > >The album's musical and lyrical journey was inspired by the tragic > >events of Sept. 11 -- the album was written entirely after the > > >attacks on America while Amos was on the road. Becc added >Hrm. I wish I hadn't read this, now that I've already done so >(damn!). I just hope that when they say "inspired by" Sept 11, >they're not meaning that she's singing directly or obviously about >that event (in which case I'm going to really criiiinge) but that it >has inspired her to think about something a little more universal. Me: Oh ye gods! If this album ends up some soppy "war, what is it good for" crap, I'm not gonna be happy. Oh well, time will tell all I guess. It is a terrible thing that has happened with Sept 11, but time has passed all! Can't people move on already! Gawd! I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. ~Bindy Go to: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cancerian/ for Ramblings From The Moon Child _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:30:53 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article At 14:21 09-07-02 +1000, Bindy . wrote: [Sept 11] >Can't people move on already! Gawd! I'm kinda sick of hearing about it. You're sick of it? If I hear one more 'tribute to heroes' or other some Sept 11 overly hyped tripe, I'm going to scream. All I want is to go one day without having to hear about an imaginary terrorist threat or some supposedly heart-wrenching story. Ahem. Sorry, I'm feeling a little cynical today. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:36:24 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] American HisTori (this ought to be right up Roozi n' E's alley ;) At 21:16 08-07-02 -0700, Nathan "." wrote: >*snip* Thanks 4 da info tid-bit. Hehehe.. I >obviously 'skipped class' (to use the US lingo) the >day American history was taught in school. Your token American on the list has to be good for -something- besides helping y'all with your American-bashing. ;) (Don't -even- get me started on this whole thing about the Pledge of Allegiance.) [snip] >Although some Denters are speculating (and probably >rationally so, IMO) Wait. Wait. Did I honestly just hear you say 'Denters' and 'rationally' in the same sentence? > that "Snow Cherries From France" >is just some bullshit title that Tori & Neil have >going for fun as a joke against all of "us". The >title sounds pretty ridiculous (though Tori certainly >does have some ridiculous song-titles), and they >probably just thought they'd have a joke at "our" >gullible-ness. Tori mentioned that title as early as 1996. That's one hell of a long time to keep a fake title around, no? >Not really. YKTR is *not* a Tori Amos release. It counts as one of the required albums in her contract with Atlantic. Given that, I'm willing to call it a Tori Amos release. > > There's > > also the question of the upcoming Atlantic best-of retrospective. >Upcoming as of when though? I remember when the live >disc of TVAB was referred to as "her greatest hits >life" (*snigger*) here on TV. Atlantic still has one Tori album under her contract. The best-of retrospective will complete her contractual obligation with them. While it's possible that they would pass the opportunity to release a best-of, I'd say that the chances of them not releasing it are pretty slim. >I think the 'quality' of such BFP-era songs as Agent >Orange, Sister Named Desire, Amazing Grace/Til the >Chicken, etc. validates my concerns re: 'rushing' ;) What about 'Marianne'? (Ignoring the whole 'tuna rubber' bit. ;) >One would certainly hope that Tori did *not* spend >painstaking hours over those 'songs' to get them >"right" ;) Well, she certainly did fuckall in post-production for that album. >But even so.. when you are working to a 'deadline' as >such (and she did say Sept 24th, apparently... funny >how a seemingly random date 'plucked out of the air' >also happened to fall on a Tuesday - the day that new >releases come out in the US), can you be your creative >best? At the Ann Powers thing, she didn't give a date. She only said 'late September'. It was other sources that said the 24th. (At least, assuming my memory serves. I was there, but I can have a miserable memory for specifics.) > > Given how mutable Tori's album lineups have been in > > the past (witness > > 'Honey' getting pulled at the last minute from UtP, >Everyone always winges over this, but I can't see >"Honey" fitting onto UTP too well myself at all. I >think Tori made the right choice. (although how "The >Waitress" even got recorded at all is beyond me). And >for the record, I think "The Wrong Band" is brill. I wasn't complaining about it. I was only pointing to it as an example, and definitely not the only one. TttS was supposed to be on LE. And 'Cooling' got lost from BfP. And on and on and on. Tori changes her mind about her album lineups at the last minute, always has, probably always will. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:39:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article "Bindy ." wrote: > Oh ye gods! If this album ends up some soppy "war, > what is it good for" > crap, I'm not gonna be happy. Hehehe I can just see Tori now covering Culture Club's "War Song": "war is stupid, and people are stupid"... > Oh well, time will > tell all I guess. It is a > terrible thing that has happened with Sept 11, but > time has passed all! > Can't people move on already! Gawd! I'm kinda sick > of hearing about it. Wait till the 1 year anniversary cumz around. There's be more 'US is scared of another attack' thing in the news, more likely than not - ala this passing 4th of July. Better still, wait till the 25th anniversary, etc. when they have the "where were you when you heard the news about Sept. 11?" specials. Nadyne then wrote: > You're sick of it? If I hear one more 'tribute to > heroes' or other some > Sept 11 overly hyped tripe, I'm going to scream. Actually, I'm really surprised there has been (well to my limited knowledge anyway) no major 'We are the world'-type tribute song/album released. I know Michael Jackson had done a group charity song "What More Can I Give?", but Sony refused to allow its release.. lol. Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 21:47:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] American HisTori (this ought to be right up Roozi n' E's alley ;) Nadyne Mielke wrote: > >Although some Denters are speculating (and probably > >rationally so, IMO) > > Wait. Wait. Did I honestly just hear you say > 'Denters' and 'rationally' > in the same sentence? No, you didn't hear it, you read it :) > > that "Snow Cherries From France" > >is just some bullshit title that Tori & Neil have > >going for fun as a joke against all of "us". The > >title sounds pretty ridiculous (though Tori > certainly > >does have some ridiculous song-titles), and they > >probably just thought they'd have a joke at "our" > >gullible-ness. > > Tori mentioned that title as early as 1996. That's > one hell of a long time > to keep a fake title around, no? No, it was 1998 during an online chat, where somebody asked her what her fave Choirgirl song was. 'twas Cooling that first got an airing in '96. > >Not really. YKTR is *not* a Tori Amos release. > > It counts as one of the required albums in her > contract with > Atlantic. Given that, I'm willing to call it a Tori > Amos release. Yeah but her name (other than just "Tori") doesn't appear anywhere on the release. > >I think the 'quality' of such BFP-era songs as > Agent > >Orange, Sister Named Desire, Amazing Grace/Til the > >Chicken, etc. validates my concerns re: 'rushing' > ;) > > What about 'Marianne'? (Ignoring the whole 'tuna > rubber' bit. ;) I like Marianne actually. Actually I *was* contemplating nearly 'bashing' the whole second half of BFP.. but decided against it for once :) I think it has quite a few good songs, but a little more acoustic variety would have been nice. > >One would certainly hope that Tori did *not* spend > >painstaking hours over those 'songs' to get them > >"right" ;) > > Well, she certainly did fuckall in post-production > for that album. YAY agreed for once. Although I think the first 7 songs of that album are pretty much perfect. It does annoy me slightly how seemingly everyone on the Dent thinks that album is the best thing since sliced bread. > TttS was supposed > to be on LE. I think it should have been. Along with Upside Down. Although.. I was thinking about this in the kitchen before (as one does from time to time), and thought.. had she included Upside Down on LE, she would have had 3/4 of the songs from her debut release, the MAAG/SATY EP on the album.. which would have kinda defeated the purpose of the EP. Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:57:14 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] cdnow article At 21:39 08-07-02 -0700, Nathan "." wrote: >Actually, I'm really surprised there has been (well to >my limited knowledge anyway) no major 'We are the >world'-type tribute song/album released. There are (at least) four that are currently on store shelves, and (the last I checked) there are three more due out this year. "We Saw The Best In You! A Gift of Songs Musical Tribute Inspired by September 11, 2001". "The Concert for New York City" "America: A Tribute to Heroes" "Vigil" -- put together by Suzanne Vega and the other members of the Greenwich Village Songwriter's Exchange. Granted, none of them had a sickeningly sweet 'We Are the World' type song, but they're all verging on it. Which one is the most saccharine of the lot is an exercise left to the class. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:03:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Porn/Another comment re: the Sept. 11. theme It would seem, at least to the 'outside person', that Tori only sings about tragedy. I'm curious to know what the 'pornography' songs are going to be about/like. Or maybe Tori's incorporated a mini concept album into Scarlet's Walk (ala Kate Bush's "The Ninth Wave" on Hounds of Love) where she covers songs from The Cure's 'Pornography' album ;) Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale An mp3 of this was doing the rounds on the ex-Dent forums, but the fun police put a stop to it. Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:34:34 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale Now you're just being silly...or somebody was. Probably someone recording themselves over random piano-ness and guitar ambiences and a few hazy drums gruntings "fairy tale yes said sorta kinda maybe a fairy tale yes she said lady...lady in the white shirt". it probably only ran for five fucking seconds. okay, who else thinks that the live mp3 of her abusing the lady in the white shirt is her greatest work in recent years? - --- Nathan . wrote: > An mp3 of this was doing the rounds on the ex-Dent > forums, but the fun police put a stop to it. > > Nathan. > _______________________________________________________ > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com ===== I have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:37:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale Daniel wrote: > Now you're just being silly...or somebody was. > Probably someone recording themselves over random > piano-ness and guitar ambiences and a few hazy drums > gruntings "fairy tale yes said sorta kinda maybe a > fairy tale yes she said lady...lady in the white > shirt". it probably only ran for five fucking > seconds. No I wasn't being silly, rilly. There's a whole 3-page + thread on what ppl think of it.. and was a thread on the lyrics too. 'tseems I missed getting a copy of it though.. *sob* > okay, who else thinks that the live mp3 of her > abusing > the lady in the white shirt is her greatest work in > recent years? Probably. Although there ain't exactly much competition :) Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:44:08 +0930 From: "lb" Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale Nath lied (??): > No I wasn't being silly, rilly. There's a whole > 3-page + thread on what ppl think of it.. and was a > thread on the lyrics too. > > 'tseems I missed getting a copy of it though.. *sob* So what exactly were people saying Naffin? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:44:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairy*truth* lb wrote: > Nath lied (??): I did not! *getz all offended n' defensive* > > No I wasn't being silly, rilly. There's a whole > > 3-page + thread on what ppl think of it.. and was > a > > thread on the lyrics too. > > > > 'tseems I missed getting a copy of it though.. > *sob* > > So what exactly were people saying Naffin? Go to the Main Tori Forum n' see for youself. Although as usual, expect the typical - 'wow this is great!', 'I'm crying' responses. Actually, it generally seems to be positive. Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:49:17 +0930 From: "lb" Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairy*truth* Nath continued to lie: > I did not! *getz all offended n' defensive* > > > So what exactly were people saying Naffin? > > Go to the Main Tori Forum n' see for youself. Actually, I'd rather not. I hate loading all that crap. Could you collate some of the best responses (i.e. most eloquent or interesting) and send them to me? pleeeeaseee? you loooveee meeee :P ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairy*truth* lb wrote: > Nath continued to lie: > > > I did not! *getz all offended n' defensive* > > > > > So what exactly were people saying Naffin? > > > > Go to the Main Tori Forum n' see for youself. > > Actually, I'd rather not. I hate loading all that > crap. Could you collate > some of the best responses (i.e. most eloquent or > interesting) and send them > to me? pleeeeaseee? you loooveee meeee :P Yes I do indeed. Here's a thread with lyrical guesses thusfar: http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141659 Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 23:49:18 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale At 07:34 09-07-02 +0100, Daniel wrote: >Now you're just being silly...or somebody was. >Probably someone recording themselves over random >piano-ness and guitar ambiences and a few hazy drums >gruntings "fairy tale yes said sorta kinda maybe a >fairy tale yes she said lady...lady in the white >shirt". it probably only ran for five fucking seconds. Having downloaded it, I'm quite comfortable in saying that it really is Tori, and that it really is a recording of the song. Y'all can give it a go at: http://www.franklet.com/tori_amos_a_sorta_fairytale.mp3 Enjoy. :) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale Dammit that site says it needs a password?! - --- Nadyne Mielke wrote: > At 07:34 09-07-02 +0100, Daniel wrote: > >Now you're just being silly...or somebody was. > >Probably someone recording themselves over random > >piano-ness and guitar ambiences and a few hazy > drums > >gruntings "fairy tale yes said sorta kinda maybe a > >fairy tale yes she said lady...lady in the white > >shirt". it probably only ran for five fucking > seconds. > > Having downloaded it, I'm quite comfortable in > saying that it really is > Tori, and that it really is a recording of the song. > > Y'all can give it a go at: > http://www.franklet.com/tori_amos_a_sorta_fairytale.mp3 > > Enjoy. :) > > /nm Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 23:59:22 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] A Sorta Fairytale Doh! He must've just changed that (bet he got slammed). If anyone can host it, I'll email it along. But you have to act fast, 'cause I'm going to bed soon. :) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:07:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] #oztori Jaz (apparently sleeping) & I are there (web-based one) atm (5:09pm) in case anyone cares.. *looks at razorblade* Nathan. _______________________________________________________ Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #198 ****************************