From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #136 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Wednesday, May 8 2002 Volume 02 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] ["riot poofter" ] Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] ["riot poofter" ] Re: [oztori] Please disregard our last mail [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] ["Lavenda" ] [oztori] nina! (riddel...not gordon, or that skinny nina from just shoot me, nor the german songstress who had a hit with 99 luftballons and universal radio...talking to myself talk/talk/talking to myself...) [] [oztori] URGENT!! NEED HELP!! Re: Angel [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] ["Too Much" <2much@elvis.com>] Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] ["Too Much" <2much@elvis.com>] Re: [oztori] Is this true??? ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] ["Bindy ." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 18:47:51 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] >> > > Being a former/sublimated transman, > > > > "Transman"? Please explain. You usedta be a guy? ;) > > > >Not far from the truth. Until about 2 or 3 years ago, I was absolutely >convinced I was male despite my XX genes. I got myself diagnosed as an >FtM transsexual ("transman") & would have gone through with changing >my body to suit my state of mind, but mysteriously found myself unable to >commit myself to the permanent changes of testosterone & eventually >reconciled myself to my physical "womanliness". > >I could say a lot more about this, but this doesn't seem quite the place. >:) if you DO want to say more, i think a lot of us (well me and nayth at the very least) would be fascinated to know more... of course if you don't want to discuss it that is completely fine! Roozi _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 18:57:03 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] chartz n' thingz (was Re: Rick Astley) >>Roozi allegedly wrote on March 29th this year (either >the date on your comp is a tad fucked, or my yahoo >account is.. or both) of the ongoing 'I'm out to prove >Nayth wrong' saga ;) actually i DID send it then but it took til yesterday to "recah" oztori... weird huh?? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] Too Much <2much@elvis.com> wrote: > Hmm, actually I have been in a bit of an introverted > and withdrawn phrase > lately... but I think my sudden outbursts are more > due to having my first > assessment due for uni this year yesterday, Ooooooooooooh fun. What are you studying? And come to think of it, I don't think 'we' (well I) know enough filing-card info about you. So... "a/s/l"? ;) And "wot r u wearing?" > > Hehehe. I think it's the playing snap, memory & > > snakes n' ladders with 5-7 year olds that's done > it. > > > > Well, I'm relieved you are doing something > wholesome, I actually thought > you were on Valium or something ;) LOL! I'm actually not on any meds (oh and can't you just tell? ;) > Aaarrrghhh stay away, when Scorpios get together > it's trouble for everyone > ;) Indeed. > (Well, maybe Bros covered it, but I wouldn't know > because I *never* listen > to them...) I don't think anyone does listen to them *now*.. But I'm sure you were a huge Brosette 'back in the day' (waves to Lavs). Actually, jumping ahead of myself here, I dare say BROS had a bigger cultural impact than the Beatles, Madonna, and Nirvana combined ;) I mean.. Bros were just about the first kinda 'boy band'. > > "Transman"? Please explain. You usedta be a guy? > ;) > > > > Not far from the truth. Until about 2 or 3 years > ago, I was absolutely > convinced I was male despite my XX genes. I got > myself diagnosed as an > FtM transsexual ("transman") & would have gone > through with changing > my body to suit my state of mind, but mysteriously > found myself unable to > commit myself to the permanent changes of > testosterone & eventually > reconciled myself to my physical "womanliness". Oh wow! You should gone through with it and moved to VIC circa July-October 2000, so I coulda used you as a 'guinea pig' when I was a student working with trans ;) (j/k) > I could say a lot more about this, but this doesn't > seem quite the place. :) Well this list has pretty much been devoid of any structure for a looooooong time now, so go ahead.. make our collective days if you must! Nathan. . Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:03:07 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] > > Rooz, you're a bloke?? (I've actually thought you > > were female, despite the male connotations of your > > nickname...) a male yes. a bloke... um, no. what do u mean male connatations? and what is my nickname? u mean riot poof? or "rooz"? (which i would rather not be called if thats ok :) hmm... this is not the first time this has happened on oztori... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:05:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] wanna be up Lavenda wrote: > > I could say a lot more about this, but this > doesn't seem quite the place. > :) > > The chat last night probably was! LOL! Lavs you are *such* a 'kiss n' tell' (to throw in obligatory Chantoozies content :P) Nathan! (PS... something is seriously wrong with me atm.. I've got the fucking POPSTAR god-awful Scott Caine (sp?)'s "song" in my head!! Aaaaaaaaaagh! Oh.. and GUESS WHAT BOYS AND GIRLS... I'VE JUST EATEN *********NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODLES************ AGAIN!!!! *does a happy dance*) . Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Please disregard our last mail ennui wrote: > dylan// > >And that whole Beatles thing: they defined a > >generation of (white) children...same way Nirvana > >defined our (with the exception of lil Dan! lol) > >generation...you may not particularly like them but > >you can't deny the influence they had...and still > >have. > > Ah.. and here I think I see what Roozi was talking > about - I'm > white and 20something, Nirvana never redefined me. I > thought > they were crap when I first heard them. For all 0.2 of you who care, I never liked Nirvana much either. I hated Smells Like Teen Spirit when it came out.. Though 'looking back', "Come as you are", "Lithium", "Sliver" and "Heart-Shaped Box" aren't that bad. But Teen Spirit the best song EVER?! (well according to the People Who Vote on JJJ's Hottest 100 Polls). > The > influence they had was > to give the media something right on the cusp of two > disparate > musical worlds, so that all the writers at Rolling > Stone and > the other lame music magazines could go "look. this > is what > good music is - kind of alternative, kind of not". > It's a big leap to say that either band actually > influenced a > whole generation, they simply incorporated some > aspects of what > was going on in the lesser-known musical world into > their own > style. Both bands were good at what they did, but > they were > never the be-all and end-all of music... > "you thought that you were the bomb, yes well I > didn't" :) Hehehe. Although I'll always hold a slight grudge against Nirvana for literally wiping all Vanilla Ice and hair-band-esque muzak off the planet indefinitely.. *sob* > I should disclose at this time that I only managed a > '9% evil' > rating - I'm sure my views now hold little sway on > this list. :) > > ennui [ ~angel~ ] Damn you've now put the goddam SHAGGY song in my head! Aaaaaaaaaagh! Nathan! . Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:13:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozrepl-l-lies] (does anyone remember the Diana King song?) Roozi wrote: > > > Rooz, you're a bloke?? (I've actually thought > you > > > were female, despite the male connotations of > your > > > nickname...) > > a male yes. a bloke... um, no. "I'm a bloke I'm an occa And I really love your knockers" OMG... Some truly VILE 'music' has been released by Aawwstraayans... And to think THAT made #1 here a mere 2 years ago... *heads for the first plane outta this cunt'ry* > what do u mean male connatations? and what is my > nickname? u mean riot poof? It could be 'poof' as in those french seat things ;) or however they're spelt/spelled. > or "rooz"? (which i would rather not be called if > thats ok :) Yeah sounds like "Up with the Roos'" (Um.. North Melbourne ALF team or something.. *gasp Nayth knows something about football!*) Nathan! . Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:16:47 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] How EVIL are you? 59% evil! yay!!! "i am evil homer, i am evil ho-mer" Roozi ps. you should see how i score on those purity/impurity tests :) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:22:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Bet the Kylie list don't have one o' these... Wow there's now a chick on Oztori who was diagnosed as a female-to-male transsexual 2 years ago. She didn't want to go through with the Op though. Int'resting. Nathan. . Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] *shoots self* Oh dear.. Another case of 'private e-mail gone to list'.. *dies* Idiot. . Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:29:19 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] > I don't think anyone does listen to them *now*.. But > I'm sure you were a huge Brosette 'back in the day' > (waves to Lavs). What on earth are you on about? Have you been into year old noodles or something??? > I mean.. Bros were just about the first kinda 'boy > band'. I'd probably say the Beatles were. They got sick of the screaming girlies and quit touring and wrote more obscure songs, but they had that quality imposed on them. But then I also tend to think of 'boy bands' as being very manufactured and put together by producers and the like (a la NKOTB). Which doesn't apply to either of the above. ;^ X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebz.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebz.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:48:33 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] nina! (riddel...not gordon, or that skinny nina from just shoot me, nor the german songstress who had a hit with 99 luftballons and universal radio...talking to myself talk/talk/talking to myself...) hey all, can someone who can get in contact with nina riddel in person get her to clear her inbox - all her emails are bouncing. if its not cleared by tomorrow (wednesday) evening (say, 8pm) i'll manually remove her and she can come back on when she can. pam, perhaps, can you get in touch? any other brisvegans? cheers, dan ===== I have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 00:25:32 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] URGENT!! NEED HELP!! Re: Angel I posted this to aus.tv/aus.tv.buffy newsgroups - but I thought I'd post it here too, cause I know a lot of you are Buffy/Angel fans... Hello, I haven't got Angel from tonight! I can't BELIEVE IT!! I was wondering if some KIND soul might be able to lend me their copy!?! I'm in Brisbane. I live on the North Side, and I go to UQ. So if anyone could lend me a copy/the ep - I could either meet you at Uni or pick it up from your house if you don't live too far away, that is!! (It was the episode that was on TONIGHT 7/5/02 in Brisbane/Syndey (The ep after the baby is born) Thank you very much in advance. e-mail me on s348712@student.uq.edu.au And *NO* I CAN NOT download the episode. 1. Too Slow a connection 2. Too Slow a computer Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 00:46:14 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] nina! (riddel...not gordon, or that skinny nina from just shoot me, nor the german songstress who had a hit with 99 luftballons and universal radio...talking to myself talk/talk/talking to myself...) At 12:48 7/05/2002 +0100, Daniel wrote: >hey all, >can someone who can get in contact with nina riddel in >person get her to clear her inbox - all her emails are >bouncing. if its not cleared by tomorrow (wednesday) >evening (say, 8pm) i'll manually remove her and >she can come back on when she can. pam, perhaps, can >you get in touch? any other brisvegans? >cheers, >dan She's in Sydney... I think. I don't know how she'd clear her inbox from there though?? Unless she's on a web-mail thingy!?! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 23:44:03 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] Angel (no spoilers) > Hello, I haven't got Angel from tonight! > > I can't BELIEVE IT!! > > I was wondering if some KIND soul might be able to > lend me their copy!?! Can't lend you a copy...I didn't tape it...but really, you didn't miss much. Not a fantastic episode. If I see David Boreanaz making one more coochy-coochy face I'm going to boycott Angel forever. The kid gets a nice name though. Best part? When Leila goes to the records section of Wolfram & Hart. xoxo Dan ===== I have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 11:38:46 +1000 From: Jonceski Jasmina Subject: [oztori] Is this true??? Hey Does anyone know if there is any truth behind this? Kevyn Aucoin, Tori's makeup artist, is dead. Jas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Too Much" <2much@elvis.com> Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] RoozI wrote: > >I could say a lot more about this, but this doesn't seem quite the place. > >:) > > if you DO want to say more, i think a lot of us (well me and nayth at the > very least) would be fascinated to know more... of course if you don't want > to discuss it that is completely fine! > I will say more (& contrary to what Nathan seems to think, I really didn't find his "look what we've got" email offensive in the slightest, so stop being silly Nathan) since this does seem to interest a lot of you but I am not thinking too clearly at the moment as I have a sleeping pill "hangover" & so will limit myself to fairly tearse replies to overnight emails. :) E. "Don't criticize what you don't understand, son. You never walked in that man's shoes." --E.A. Presley - ------------------------------------------------- Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Too Much" <2much@elvis.com> Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] Nathan R wrote > > Too Much <2much@elvis.com> wrote: > > > Hmm, actually I have been in a bit of an introverted > > and withdrawn phrase > > lately... but I think my sudden outbursts are more > > due to having my first > > assessment due for uni this year yesterday, > > Ooooooooooooh fun. What are you studying? > History honours at UWA, fulltime, because I'm an insane overachiever ;) > And come to think of it, I don't think 'we' (well I) > know enough filing-card info about you. > > So... "a/s/l"? ;) And "wot r u wearing?" > LOL... brings back memories of my cybersex-crazed days on IRC... a: 24 yrs 5 mths 12 days s: yes please, I'm an orgasm addict l: Perth wearing: something fairly femme today, and all 2nd hand (except for underthings) > I don't think anyone does listen to them *now*.. But > I'm sure you were a huge Brosette 'back in the day' > (waves to Lavs). > No, I was one of the nasty kids at school who would say to crazed Brosettes, "Bros SUCKS!!!" (I think I was in grade 6 or 7 at the time Bros sprang to life.) > Actually, jumping ahead of myself here, I dare say > BROS had a bigger cultural impact than the Beatles, > Madonna, and Nirvana combined ;) > > I mean.. Bros were just about the first kinda 'boy > band'. > But weren't NKOTB pretty hot on the heels of Bros? And what about The Monkees?? Yay, now I'm going to have the Monkees theme song in my head for the rest of the day... :P E. "Don't criticize what you don't understand, son. You never walked in that man's shoes." --E.A. Presley - ------------------------------------------------- Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:01:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Too Much" <2much@elvis.com> Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] On Tue, 07 May 2002, "riot poofter" wrote > > > > Rooz, you're a bloke?? (I've actually thought you > > > were female, despite the male connotations of your > > > nickname...) > > a male yes. a bloke... um, no. > I just meant "bloke" as in "guy, man, male" etc. & not "bloke" as in "The Bloke Song"... > what do u mean male connatations? and what is my nickname? u mean riot poof? > or "rooz"? (which i would rather not be called if thats ok :) > Yeah, I meant "riot poofter" :) > hmm... this is not the first time this has happened on oztori... > Well, when an apparently genderless person starts arguing for the dismissal of popular white male influences in favour for female non-white ones, one does tend to assume said person is of the female persuasion... & I guess I do tend to agree that men can never truly be feminists. E. "Don't criticize what you don't understand, son. You never walked in that man's shoes." --E.A. Presley - ------------------------------------------------- Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 13:29:56 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] Is this true??? It appears so: http://thedent.com/kevyn.html - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonceski Jasmina To: Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:38 AM Subject: [oztori] Is this true??? > Hey > > Does anyone know if there is any truth behind this? > > Kevyn Aucoin, Tori's makeup artist, is dead. > > Jas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 16:37:01 +1000 From: "Bindy ." Subject: Re: [oztori] [ozreplies] "Everything Starts with an _E_" wrote >a: 24 yrs 5 mths 12 days Yay! Another old person (sorry lavs, it was getting a bit lonely just us two oldies)!! I may still be slightly older, but you are a 1977 baby too! And a water sign! I'm a Cancer. You into the Astrology too huh? Anyway, this is nothing to do with anything, so ... um ... yeah ~Bindy _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #136 ****************************