From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #120 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Monday, April 22 2002 Volume 02 : Number 120 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] I keep getting this stori twisted so where's Nayth when you need him? [AndrewR ] [oztori] Firestarter [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Vote for your favourite stupid Amos article ["nina riddel" <] Re: [oztori] OT - girl names ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] OT - girl names ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] Actual TORI content *ching! ching! ching!* ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] two things [Rebecca Appleton ] [oztori] nathan's complaining the list's dead so let's post private conversations! ;) ["nina riddel" ] [oztori] Little Blue World first anniversary issue! [Nadyne Mielke Subject: [oztori] I keep getting this stori twisted so where's Nayth when you need him? At 22:46 20/04/2002 -0700, Nathan R wrote: >AndrewR wrote: >> >"Special thanks to John Witherspoon and IAN THORPE, >> >the Ponderers, Rabbit and Fox." >> > >> >Ian Thorpe? "lol" >> > >> >> heh - how OLD would he have been then 9 or 10? About >> Lil' Dan's age. ;o) > >LOL! > > >PS - this list is seriously dead. > Seriously. I have something to add!! *clears throat* I had Lisa Loeb's "Firecracker" for a while - since I bought it second hand... I've got a few albums sitting there which I haven't found the 'right time' (cue: The Corrs) *ahem* to listen to... I have recenlty pulled out Star - Belly, and Firecracker by Lisa Loeb. I had one or two listens and went 'ehh - not as good as Tails'... then in the last week, I put it on again, and something CLICKED! It's a FANTASTIC album - I had only ever hear "I Do" before. I like every track on the album now. I think the BEST track is "Firecracker" it's sorta EPIC! (NOT in the Faith No More sense of the word) - It's my fave track on the album. I think it might even be a better - - more mature? album than "Tails". Andrew > >Nathan. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:25:04 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Actual TORI content *ching! ching! ching!* Looking at TALD for the lyrics to space dog to add to my previous title - I can't remember lyrics EXACTLY... I found this 'quote'/comment by Tori from the "Under the Pink Songbook" in reguards to Space Dog: flying over chicago from new mexico i heard him-- him who lives near the 7 eleven fork in hand at a dead dinner table staring at the peas on his plate going "come in lemon pie do you read me do you read me beam me up and get me out of this place i can't have their genes in me come in lemon pie"-- i read you buddy From the Under the Pink songbook I mean... WTF!?! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:17:56 +1000 From: "cåth ." Subject: [oztori] OT - names >>>>plus was name of one of the members of b*witched... an unwise role >>>>model! actually, her name is KEAVY not KEELY :D my choices? "tabitha" or "mackenzye" for a girl and "mackenzie" for a boy :D :D <3 cath _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:32:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Firestarter AndrewR wrote: > I had Lisa Loeb's "Firecracker" for a while I first saw that as Lisa Loeb's "Firestarter"! LOL wouldn't it be hilarious if she covered THAT?! "I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter" > - since > I bought it second > hand... I've got a few albums sitting there which I > haven't found the > 'right time' (cue: The Corrs) *ahem* to listen to... I can't be bothered with any of my CD's atm. I'm going through one of those "I've got NOTHING worth listening to at ALL" phases... and feel like throwing all of my CD's out the window.. Heheheh. "One Tori collection going cheaply - 50 cents the lot, will not sep.". Nathan. . Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:08:40 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: Re: [oztori] Vote for your favourite stupid Amos article These ones: >*Amos porn video leaked onto the net >*Amos sues Nayth for defamation YES!!! > >*Wacko wedding: Michael Jackson and Tori Amos tie the >knot > >*Amos's 'Ode to the Banana King': rumoured to be about >Michael Jackson and his relationship with Bubbles > >*Amos lip-synch scandal > >*Latest Mariah breakdown: "Tori is out to get me" http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/n26 _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:38:25 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT - girl names > Zhaan! > or Aeryn! Mentioned that one right at the start, though forgot to put it in the list (it wasn't on the old list or in the book) I had Zahn on the old list, does that count? :) X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebz.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebz.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:39:38 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT - girl names > As LONG as people don't start saying "my PEEPS" ugh. What's wrong with Peeps? Other than they weren't even around this easter. Naughty naughty Kmart. X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebz.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebz.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:57:40 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] Actual TORI content *ching! ching! ching!* > flying over chicago > from new mexico > i heard him-- him who > lives near the 7 eleven > fork in hand at a dead dinner table > staring at the peas on his plate > going "come in lemon pie > do you read me do you read me > beam me up and get me out of this place > i can't have their genes in me > come in lemon pie"-- i read you buddy > From the Under the Pink songbook > > I mean... WTF!?! Do these make it a little clearer? "As far as Space Dog goes, it was a drawing on a mud wall in New Mexico. It was a shape, and it really was, if I could take a picture and show it to you sometime, the whole record was recorded in mud, mud walls, adobe and wood ceilings, wood floors, because Eric really loved the sound, which is why it sounds like it has that warm womb thing. Well, in one of the rooms, there was this - it's Space Dog. A feather on his head, and it's this sharp nose. It just really is. That's how so many of these songs came, in this Under the Pink world. If you rip all your skin off, we're all pink, and it's about what's underneath that. That's how I see it, anyway. Space Dog would come and visit me, just as my alternative deity, so to speak. The idea that everybody puts their faith in, I don't know, this yogi or this channel or this god or this saint or this whatever, well, Space Dog was like, hey, it's my deity. I was flying over Chicago. Before I got into the city, I was flying over, and I just felt this scene happening by this 7-11 I could see way in the distance. It was a very cold night. It was in March, and I was going in for a signing at Rose Records. I was flying in, and I felt this young boy, 13, 14 years old, with his family. He's eating peas. His family is like, some of those people that show up on Oprah Winfrey sometimes, that you just go, My God, if I had to go home with them, I would contemplate, like, eating Pledge. And I just felt his presence. I felt him just opening himself up to another possibility, because his world was just so closed. The best thing he had near him was the 7-11 goddess. I was just watching from the - I was in the window seat, and I was just watching, like, way down. I felt Space Dog. I've been talking to him, and I felt Space Dog going, 'Lemon pie. Coming through, lemon pie.' It was very Agent 99. I kind of felt like Agent 99 going, 'Oh, Max.' And this young man responded. There is something out there. [Baltimore Sun - January 1994] X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebz.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebz.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:10:15 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: Re: [oztori] two things >Heh! Has the woman ever said she _is_ a lesbian? Apparently she is (a few weeks ago the Courier-Mail did an article on her which mentioned her "female partner" and heh, they'd know ;) , the fact that she's had both her babies with donated sperm seems to suggest it, and my uni lecturers last week talked about the fact that before she was "out" (which I don't think she really is - she's very very private about discussing her personal life with the press) she was a huge role model for lesbians just because she represents an attractive, independent and (when she was younger) butch woman. As well as being, without a doubt, one of the most beautiful/sexy women alive. >What I do remember hearing/reading somewhere 'round about the time >that I read my friend's book is that her brother (Buddy, I think was >his name. There's one for ya, Lavs! ;) ) was intending on putting >out a tell-all book of his own, in which he'd be dealing with stuff >she didn't want people talking about, including her rumoured >homosexuality. Mmm. I've read reviews. Apparently he deals with it in about 4 sentences without really saying anything either way. Her mother's a lesbian, though, and apparently Jodie is a nickname her siblings gave her after her mother's partner (her real name's Alicia). http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/n26 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:22:20 GMT From: Rebecca Appleton Subject: Re: [oztori] two things On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:10:15 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >Apparently she is (a few weeks ago the Courier-Mail did an article >on her >which mentioned her "female partner" and heh, they'd know ;) , You trust the Courier Mail? :P >the >fact that >she's had both her babies with donated sperm seems to suggest it, Ehhhh, maybe. Or maybe she just doesn't want a relationship. >and my uni >lecturers last week talked about the fact that before she was "out" >(which I >don't think she really is - she's very very private about discussing >her >personal life with the press) Yeah I know! That's why I was surprised to hear about her being "out". >she was a huge role model for lesbians >just >because she represents an attractive, independent and (when she was >younger) >butch woman. Heh! When? I don't think I ever recall seeing Jodie Foster looking butch, and I've seen her in movies ranging from Taxi Driver (child) to Freaky Friday (teenage) to some thing in which she played a rape survivor (don't recall the title), to... Contact (was probably the last of hers I saw). Never saw her looking butch, I don't think. Not that I'm particularly wanting to. And yeah, she's certainly an attractive, very intelligent and independent person... but I reckon that if she's going to be considered as a role model for lesbians, she ought just as well to be considered a role model for all women. I dunno... this celebrities-as-role-models stuff kills me. >As well as being, without a doubt, one of the most >beautiful/sexy women alive. Hoo, yeah! *drool* >Mmm. I've read reviews. Apparently he deals with it in about 4 >sentences >without really saying anything either way. That's good to hear; even so -- writing a book to make money over your famous sibling? I can't help feeling a little weirded out by that! ~Becc :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:34:18 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] nathan's complaining the list's dead so let's post private conversations! ;) >You trust the Courier Mail? :P no. nonononononononono. but if it's true, there's a god! >Ehhhh, maybe. Or maybe she just doesn't want a relationship. or maybe she doesn't want to have sex with men. They use her as an example of "women who can't bear to get pregnant the usual way" in lost of ivf articles i've read. >Heh! When? I don't think I ever recall seeing Jodie Foster looking >butch, and I've seen her in movies ranging from Taxi Driver (child) >to Freaky Friday (teenage) to some thing in which she played a rape >survivor (don't recall the title), to... Contact (was probably the >last of hers I saw). Never saw her looking butch, I don't think. >Not that I'm particularly wanting to. I saw a doco on it (i didn't think she was butch either) where they had footage from freaky friday, the little girl who lived down the street (?), and all those ones from when she was a kid. I haven't seen any except Taxi Driver. It's not so much that she LOOKS butch - they had footage of her kissing a girl in one, and making eyes in a very manipulative way at a girl in another, and another where she assumes a boy's name and identity. And even in Taxi Driver there are scenes (in the diner with Robert De Niro) where she talks very tough. I dunno, when you see them all together (and read the Andy Warhol diaries - he knew her as a kid and says stuff like "she dresses so much like a boy" and "she and her mother do everything together. it's like a marriage") it becomes convincing. >That's good to hear; even so -- writing a book to make money over >your famous sibling? I can't help feeling a little weirded out by >that! yeah! she wanted nothing to do with it. http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/n26 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:54:13 +1000 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] two things >Heh! When? I don't think I ever recall seeing Jodie Foster looking >butch If you've seen "Candleshoe" (I think this was a channel 7 saturday midday movie staple, once a month when I was younger...) she looks decidedly tomboyish...don't know about butch though. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:16:17 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: [oztori] Little Blue World first anniversary issue! Little Blue World is pleased to announce a special first anniversary issue, due in early May. Here's some of what you'll find: * Cover Story: LBW takes its readers inside the official archive maintained for Tori and her family since 1976. We introduce you to the archivist and show you his unique collection; until now, the existence of the archive has been kept private, and we're thrilled to be the first to bring this story to the Toriphile community. * Two experienced organizers talk about what worked and what didn't work at their RAINN birthday party fundraisers last year, and offer advice to help you run a successful party of your own. * Plus regular features like Tori Story, Ask the Expert, Reader Submissions, and a new feature offering recipes inspired by Tori songs. An annual 4-issue subscription to LBW is US$15 (US$21 outside North America). For more details on the upcoming issue and how to subscribe, go to . And if you have a personal or Tori-related website, please link to us! A banner is available at our site. Aimee Lortskell editor@little-blue-world.org (Feel free to pass this message on to mailing lists and other Tori forums) - -- Nadyne Mielke nadyne@little-blue-world.org Little Blue World http://www.little-blue-world.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Little Blue World first anniversary issue! Nadyne Mielke wrote: > Little Blue World is pleased to announce a special > first anniversary issue, > due in early > May. Here's some of what you'll find: *snip* But where oh where is the limited edition digipak with the handwritten lyrics? :( Rebby Appleton wrote of Jodie Foster (I think): > And yeah, she's certainly an attractive, very > intelligent and > independent person... but I reckon that if she's > going to be > considered as a role model for lesbians, she ought > just as well to be > considered a role model for all women. I dunno... > this > celebrities-as-role-models stuff kills me. You can't deny that Britney Spears is a wonderful role model for little girls across the planet... > That's good to hear; even so -- writing a book to > make money over > your famous sibling? At least LaToya would never do that. I can hardly wait for Mike n' Marie's "tell all" book on Tori. ("lol" I think I've just given myself another idea for writing my next one of "those" articles!) Stay tuned, Nathan. . Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #120 ****************************