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oztori-digest         Saturday, March 9 2002         Volume 02 : Number 072



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: [oztori] ADMIN: need to contact list-owner  [Zac Ariel <zac@comcen.com]
  RE: OT - locs, glorious locs (was Re: [oztori] Why i won't *really* wear mink at all on this list)  []
  RE: OT - mocks, glorious mocks (was Re: [oztori] Why li won't *really* garner heed at all on this list)  []
  Re: [oztori] ADMIN: need to contact list-owner  [Daniel G <handsomecabinbo]
  Re: [oztori] syllables            [Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>]
  Re: [oztori] Becc: who is who?    [Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>]
  Re: [oztori] Special K            [Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>]
  [oztori] OT: web hosting         [Kate Findlay <katefindlay@goanna.net.au>]
  Re: Re[2]: [oztori] What i *really* think of everyone on this list  [Jonce]
  Re: Re[2]: [oztori] I am reminded of myself by that comment  [Jonceski Jas]
  Re: [oztori] syllables  [Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu]
  [oztori] also forgot...  [Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.ed]
  [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word  [Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@studen]
  Re: [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word  ["riot poofter" <kittenswrappedi]
  [oztori] Quaa Quaa                    [AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>]
  Re: [oztori] Becc: who is who?        [AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>]
  Re: [oztori] Special K                [AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>]
  Re: [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word  [AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu]
  RE: [oztori] What i *really* think of everyone on this list  ["riot poofte]
  Re: [oztori] my turn :P  ["riot poofter" <kittenswrappedincement@hotmail.c]
  Re: Re[2]: [oztori] What i *really* think of everyone on this list  ["riot]
  Re: [oztori] my turn :P                    ["li-siren" <brites@zip.com.au>]
  [oztori] Amount of mail on this list   [Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>]
  Re: [oztori] Pall Mall                 [Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>]
  Re: [oztori] Hey ROCKY! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat! AGAIN!?! -  THAT trick never works!  [Nathan R]
  Re: [oztori] Amount of mail on this list  [Daniel G <handsomecabinboy@yaho]
  Re: [oztori] also forgot...            [Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>]
  [oztori] Daniel Hirning-Spears         [Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>]
  [oztori] What i *really* think of Siobhan Fahey  [Nathan R <naythalicious@]
  [oztori] oh lord, please don't let me be misunderstood  ["ennui" <ennui@tm]

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:06:31 +1000
From: Zac Ariel <zac@comcen.com.au>
Subject: Re: [oztori] ADMIN: need to contact list-owner

Saturday, March 09, 2002, 1:09:18 AM, Jeff muttered:

JW> Their mailbox is full, so all of the list bounces are coming to me
JW> (smoe.org's postmaster). Anyone know how to reach the listowner?

okay, everyone point and laugh at dan :)

zac

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 05:58:56 +0800
From: "ennui" <ennui@tmbg.org>
Subject: RE: OT - locs, glorious locs (was Re: [oztori] Why i won't *really* wear mink at all on this list)

::<DEVIL SPAWN>Nathan</DEVIL SPAWN> spat:

>YAY ennui is back on this list!  *beams from ear to
>ear with toothless smile*

must you always be so sarcastic??

>One wonders where exactly you are wearing just one
>sock ;)

well that's *really* sensitive - let's all make fun of the
peg legged list member..

::Dylan Divine scrawled:

>OK, u guys want a bitch fight?
>Hands up who's really sad on a Friday glued to their computers waiting
>for OzTori emails?????
>LOL, I spose I'm one...but am going out soon!!! I have a life...

what synchronicity! it's 5.50am, my flatmate is entering hour nine of
configuring our BSD firewall, and i take a break from writing SQL searches,
i'm reading through the latest edition of the oztori serial while we make
jokes about how sad our lives have become... oh.. that's not a good
anecdote, now i think about it.. thanks a lot Dylan.. bloody hell.. ;)

::The Sun rose again and burnt my eyes:

Actually there is some evidence to suggest that a person's mood may be 
affected by the levels and wavelength of light to which they are exposed
daily. The most popular belief is that this is related to the sensitivity
of a person's pineal gland. Perhaps we have an unnaturally high proportion
of third eye`d persons in this room.

ennui [Idon'tcareifthesundon'tshinegetmylovin'intheeveningtime]

_

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 06:47:51 +0800
From: "ennui" <ennui@tmbg.org>
Subject: RE: OT - mocks, glorious mocks (was Re: [oztori] Why li won't *really* garner heed at all on this list)

eh?
young people have such short atten...

wossname [?]

_

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:14:05 +1100
From: Daniel G <handsomecabinboy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] ADMIN: need to contact list-owner

>Their mailbox is full, so all of the list bounces are coming to me
>(smoe.org's postmaster). Anyone know how to reach the listowner?

Well, I had 1700 emails in my inbox. Most of them bounced emails from Holly 
- - who I've removed. So, no more Holly on oztori until she realises that her 
hotmail account is inactive. Also a heap of them were bounce messages for 
someone who, when I tried to remove them, aren't even on the list apparently!
Boy do I feel stupid.
Zac - thanks for pointing and laughing ;P
xoxo
dan

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:12:22 +1000
From: Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>
Subject: Re: [oztori] syllables

On 8/03/2002, at 9:49 AM, Jasmina wrote:

JJ> I have six syllables. I like the flow of my name, it is damn funnky, if
JJ> i may say so. And I don't have a middle name so it is just six 
JJ> syllables.

Mm, different for you.  I think my main problem is with the last
letter of my first name, and the first letter of my last name, both
starting with A.  If you say "Rebecca Jane Appleton" (shhhh!) you
don't have the same problem.  When you just say "Rebecca Appleton",
though, you get that break in the middle where you have to separate
the sounds of two vowels, back to back, and you start to sound like
you're doing bad impressions of a percussion machine.

~Rebecca. :)

- -- 
www.crappism.org/blog

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:29:14 +1000
From: Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Becc: who is who?

On 8/03/2002, at 6:36 PM, AndrewR wrote:

A> OK, which Becc is which, we've had

A> Becc <rebecca@crappism.org>
A> Becc <becc@barbaric-yawp.com>
A> bec . aka (rebecca pouwer)
A> Becc aka (Rebecca)
A> Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>

*LMAO*  I'm really not that confusing!  Let me explain:

1.  I used to own the domain www.barbaric-yawp.com  So anything from that
email addy was me, yes.

2.  That domain expired at the end of last month.  In its stead, I
purchased www.crappism.org    So anything from THAT email addy is also
me.

3.  I never used to use my surname online.  I'm not paranoid or
anything, but I spent a bit too much time on oztori to keep believing
the internet wasn't full of weirdos. ;)  Heh, kidding.  But anyway, I
had to get in touch with a client the other day and didn't think it
looked too professional just having the name on my email as "Becc", so
I altered it.  And am frankly too lazy to change it back.  I will
eventually, so when things start coming in as "Becc" or "Rebecca"...
well, must be ready for it!

4.  "Becc aka (Rebecca)" MUST be me.... I don't know of anyone else
who spells Bec as "Becc"!  But I don't remember having ever put that
as the return name in my emails, so that's a bit odd.   Do you have
the email you got that off?  I'd be interested in having a look.

5.  The third one definitely isn't me.  But yes, apart from that
as-yet-unidentified 4th one, the rest are all the Becc from the
Mulholland Drive meet.

~Rebecca :)

- -- 
www.crappism.org/blog

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:30:25 +1000
From: Rebecca Appleton <rebecca@crappism.org>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Special K

On 8/03/2002, at 6:40 PM, AndrewR wrote:

A> Rebekah Elmalgolu SP?!? Has a "k" in it ;o)

Entirely beside the point, because mine isn't spelt that way. :P

~(Re)Bec(c)/(ca)

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www.crappism.org/blog

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 12:47:31 +1000
From: Kate Findlay <katefindlay@goanna.net.au>
Subject: [oztori] OT: web hosting

Hey everyone :)

I have a question for all you internet savvy people...

I am about to start working on a new website - but i can't host it on my 
isp (long story) so i need somewhere to host it that will give me about 
20mb without any ads or massively long urls. Any clues where i can find 
something like this???

cheers!
Kate

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 13:46:56 +1100
From: Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [oztori] What i *really* think of everyone on this list

DH> jas,  you  aren't  meant  to  be  a disgruntled first year uni 
DH>student
DH> *already*

well, i'm a week (or two) ahead of the rest of you so I have that 
right :P

jas

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 13:49:27 +1100
From: Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [oztori] I am reminded of myself by that comment

DH> JJ> well...scary...i  have  NEVER started a fight.
DH> 
DH> oh, i am SURE you have on here.... i think...

no, that was my sister :P

I think Mr Hirning is a bad influence, i keep sending one-liners...

Jas

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:00:54 +1100
From: Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [oztori] syllables

RA>  If you say "Rebecca Jane Appleton" (shhhh!) 

*keeps quiet*
what is so bad about that? 


I get what you mean though about the whole vowel thing. 

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:29:16 +1100
From: Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: [oztori] also forgot...

Also forgot ennui, so here goes

Ennui: funny. Your dislike for certain members and the comments you 
make about them/to them are hilarious. Very witty. And you like FFC so 
that makes you likable.

Jas

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:00:52 +1100
From: Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word

Howdy folks.

Is there a word that is not gender based like he or she? I wan't a word 
that means similar to "it" but more human because "it" is just an awful 
word.

If you know I would like to know.
Thanks

Jas

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:00:42 +1100
From: "riot poofter" <kittenswrappedincement@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word

basically, no... but it depends on teh context... you can always use s/he 
"he or she" or "she or he" or in some cases just alternate between teh two. 
Or rewrite teh sentence so that you can use 'person' instead of he or she...

whats the context?


>From: Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
>To: oztori@smoe.org
>Subject: [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word
>Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:00:52 +1100
>
>Howdy folks.
>
>Is there a word that is not gender based like he or she? I wan't a word
>that means similar to "it" but more human because "it" is just an awful
>word.
>
>If you know I would like to know.
>Thanks
>
>Jas




- ----------[contested histories]--------------------------------------
"there is fiction in the space between
the lines on your page of memories
write it down but it doesn't mean
you're not just telling stories
there is fiction in the space between
you and me"
- - tracy chapman (telling stories)

"what part of our history's reinvented and
under rug swept?
what part of your memory is selective and
tends to forget?
what's with this distance it seems so obvious?"
- - alanis morissette (hands clean)



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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 16:10:42 +1000
From: AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: [oztori] Quaa Quaa

At 05:58 9/03/2002 +0800, ennui wrote:

>::The Sun rose again and burnt my eyes:
>
>Actually there is some evidence to suggest that a person's mood may be 
>affected by the levels and wavelength of light to which they are exposed
>daily. The most popular belief is that this is related to the sensitivity
>of a person's pineal gland. Perhaps we have an unnaturally high proportion
>of third eye`d persons in this room.
>

"Third Eye"!?! This doesn't have anything to do with the location of the
single sock does it!?! ;o)

>ennui [Idon'tcareifthesundon'tshinegetmylovin'intheeveningtime]

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 16:19:42 +1000
From: AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Becc: who is who?

At 10:29 9/03/2002 +1000, Rebecca Appleton wrote:
>On 8/03/2002, at 6:36 PM, AndrewR wrote:


>4.  "Becc aka (Rebecca)" MUST be me.... I don't know of anyone else
>who spells Bec as "Becc"!  But I don't remember having ever put that
>as the return name in my emails, so that's a bit odd.   Do you have
>the email you got that off?  I'd be interested in having a look.
>

Becc, and probably Rebecca once - but not together - the aka bit is from
that 'list of members' I did - with the pseudonyms... like Dan aka DanG aka
DanielGee

>5.  The third one definitely isn't me.  But yes, apart from that
>as-yet-unidentified 4th one, the rest are all the Becc from the
>Mulholland Drive meet.
>

Cool, that's made it clearer! Tanx.

>~Rebecca :)

Andrew

P.S. I found another Rebecca on the list: Rebecca Belyea I guess a
different Rebecca...

Andrew

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 16:20:43 +1000
From: AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Special K

At 10:30 9/03/2002 +1000, Rebecca Appleton wrote:
>On 8/03/2002, at 6:40 PM, AndrewR wrote:
>
>A> Rebekah Elmalgolu SP?!? Has a "k" in it ;o)
>
>Entirely beside the point, because mine isn't spelt that way. :P
>
Ohhh, but I was just trying to drag up memories of the Early Nineties!

;o)

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 16:22:44 +1000
From: AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [oztori] OT - I'm looking for a word

At 15:00 9/03/2002 +1100, Jonceski Jasmina wrote:
>Howdy folks.
>
>Is there a word that is not gender based like he or she? I wan't a word 
>that means similar to "it" but more human because "it" is just an awful 
>word.
>
>If you know I would like to know.
>Thanks
>
>Jas
>

"one" i.e. One can take part in this dance if he or she wishes. OK, not
exactly the greatest sentence but you get the idea.

or "One may do as they please."

Andrew

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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:18:36 +1100
From: "riot poofter" <kittenswrappedincement@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [oztori] What i *really* think of everyone on this list

>I thought someone on here last year? Or a while ago was talking 'Tori
>Float'!?! I guess you'd be playing Riot Poof!?! :o)

god thats such a  FABULOUS idea!!!! it would be sooo popular too :)

but i bags being riot poof, i mean i am a (lapsed) activist and all :)


riot poofter aka roozi
*send me a private email if ur into doing a  tori float next year*
*yes i'm serious*

- ----------[contested histories]--------------------------------------
"there is fiction in the space between
the lines on your page of memories
write it down but it doesn't mean
you're not just telling stories
there is fiction in the space between
you and me"
- - tracy chapman (telling stories)

"what part of our history's reinvented and
under rug swept?
what part of your memory is selective and
tends to forget?
what's with this distance it seems so obvious?"
- - alanis morissette (hands clean)



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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:20:48 +1100
From: "riot poofter" <kittenswrappedincement@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] my turn :P

>JJ> Dan  H:  nah,  you  are  nice and apparently really shy so that is
>JJ> interesting. Also a techo dude so that is damn funky.
>
>i am NOT NICE! - when will people learn!
>
>as for shy... i'm not *that* shy...


and, much like britney, he's also "not that innocent" :P

Roozi
*laughing evily*



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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:26:10 +1100
From: "riot poofter" <kittenswrappedincement@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [oztori] What i *really* think of everyone on this list

>rp> who'd i forget
>
>ME! you dimwit.

well... people you know in "reallife" don't really count surely??
>

but fine... you are annoying, infuriating and mean, yet somehow also 
possibly my favourite person in teh world.

:P Roozi

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 17:30:35 +1030
From: "li-siren" <brites@zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: [oztori] my turn :P

Dan H said:

> >i am NOT NICE! - when will people learn!
> >
> >as for shy... i'm not *that* shy...

Roozi replied:
 
> and, much like britney, he's also "not that innocent" :P
> 
> Roozi
> *laughing evily*

Could it be that he is also "not a girl, not yet a woman"?

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:50:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>
Subject: [oztori] Amount of mail on this list

OK, I just opened my inbox to find 50 unread e-mails.

Do you people think I don't have a life or something,
and can find time to read them all?!  ;)

Nathan.

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:00:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Pall Mall

AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au> wrote:

> I pride myself on receiving as little sun as
> possible -

Me too.  A friend is seriously worried that I have
vitamin D deficiency/anaemic.


> Actually it's funny everyone is really Sun-deprived
> (people really should
> have sun for the Vitamin D it provides - mothers
> especially watch out for
> this, as I've learnt last year that some disorders,
> like Schizophrenia are
> more prevalent in sun deprived areas and people in

Maybe that explains me.

I'll be sure to keep that in mind shall I ever decide
to fall pregnant ;)


> Oh, what I was going to say - we all probably have
> tanned faces and the
> tops of our arms from the computer screen ;o)

LOL!  So true.

Or tanned hides for those of us into s&m (yo Pam!).


Nathan.

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:02:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Hey ROCKY! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat! AGAIN!?! -  THAT trick never works!

AndrewR <s348712@student.uq.edu.au> wrote:

> Will support this statement whole-heartedly. How can
> so many jock-fuckwits
> get into a relatively 'difficult' field of study!?!

Well I think one of the criteria for studying speech
pathology was that you had to be a bitch & love
yourself... hence I getting accepted into the course
;)


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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 18:06:45 +1100
From: Daniel G <handsomecabinboy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] Amount of mail on this list

>OK, I just opened my inbox to find 50 unread e-mails.

I had 62! :P~~~

>Do you people think I don't have a life or something,
>and can find time to read them all?!  ;)

Nayth we KNOW you don't have a life or something and so therefore can find 
time to read them all ;)
And weren't you one of the ones complaining recently about the lack of posts?
So this is you just being your ordinary shitstirring self, yes?

xoxo
dan

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:14:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [oztori] also forgot...

Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
wrote:

> Also forgot ennui, so here goes
> 
> Ennui: funny. Your dislike for certain members and
> the comments you 
> make about them/to them are hilarious. Very witty.
> And you like FFC so 
> that makes you likable.

WTF is FFC?

Oh damn I forgot Ennui too!  lol.. HOW could I have
done such a terrible thing?  So here goes:


Ennui - interesting, what is in your cornflakes.  And
WTF is your "real" name?


Pretty boring.. But what'dya expect as I'm tired.


Jonceski Jasmina <j.jonceski@student.canberra.edu.au>
wrote:

> Howdy folks.
> 
> Is there a word that is not gender based like he or
> she? I wan't a word 
> that means similar to "it" but more human because
> "it" is just an awful 
> word.
> 
> If you know I would like to know.
> Thanks

Could try "they", but then this is plural really.

Could also have:

shim
neuter
being-for-whom-specification-of-gender-is-irrelevant
s/he
or 'one' as the Queen uses.


Nathan.

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:18:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>
Subject: [oztori] Daniel Hirning-Spears

li-ar li-ar pants on fi-ar wrote:

> Dan H said:

> >i am NOT NICE! - when will people learn!
> >
> >as for shy... i'm not *that* shy...

> Roozi replied:
 
> and, much like britney, he's also "not that
innocent"
> :P
> 
> Roozi
> *laughing evily*

> Could it be that he is also "not a girl, not yet a
> woman"?

LOL.

If you ask me, "sometimes Dan H runs, sometimes he
hides.. but now he's stronger than yesterday, and more
lucky (although he still cries thinking of his lonely
heart), he's a slave 4 us".


Nathan.

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:20:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan R <naythalicious@yahoo.com>
Subject: [oztori] What i *really* think of Siobhan Fahey

Daniel Hirning <dan@danhirning.com> wrote:

> DG> Nathan:  Whacko. Crazy. He is Siobahn Fahey in
> disguise. No wonder
> DG> he keeps preaching about SS - he's trying to
> restart 'his' career
> 
> has anyone else heard about the apparent release of
> the 3rd album this
> year?

"They" have been saying this every fucking year since
1996.  I doubt it's gonna happen.  And if it did -
what would be the point.  It'd probably sell about 3
copies.


Nathan.

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:30:04 +0800
From: "ennui" <ennui@tmbg.org>
Subject: [oztori] oh lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Jas (who I hate) said:
>Ennui: funny. Your dislike for certain members and the comments you
>make about them/to them are hilarious. Very witty. And you like FFC so
>that makes you likable.

you want to know what I think about all the people on this list? i think
you all stink and i hate you and you can all just go get stuffed, because
every single last man-jack of you are so bloody nice and likeable and
interesting and fabulous and off yer nut that it makes me sick to my
prosthetic pinkie toenail on account of the fact that i generally aim
to hate people.

Jas (who I love) said:
>Is there a word that is not gender based like he or she? I want a word
>that means similar to "it" but more human because "it" is just an awful
>word.

oh lordie lordie! you're passing through the stages of uni study at a
phenomenal rate - within a couple of weeks you'll be thinking of dropping
the commerce degree to take a double major in philosophy/literature.
::well.. there sort of is, and there sort of isn't: as the dashing AndrewR
(who I hate) pointed out, there is 'one' but it can only really be employed
effectively in short bursts as it quickly becomes awkward. when this fails
you could utilise the royal 'we', but it should only really be used in a
self depreciating manner. Jane Austen ran extensive trials of the use of
'they' in the singular with some success - but you must remember that her
books are now sold as general anaesthetics in countries where clinical drugs
are too expensive for the ordinary punter.
i have noticed a certain ground swell in nerd ranks with the use of 'bob'
as an all-encompassing non-gender-specific term of reference, and lately
in our own little household we have taken to using 'marklar' (guess who
only just watched season 3 of south park? ;)

but to answer your question - no. the evolution of languages which were
derived from the higher germanic forms has typically favoured unnatural
segmentation of gender types within the language. some nordic/northern
european languages do have non-genderised pronouns - so had the saxons
and engels invaded britain 400 years earlier (or maybe just if the
dutch had invaded, instead of spending all their time inventing the
clog) the english language would have developed differently and you would
not have to ask this question. funny how history works, isn't it?

check http://www.wikipedia.com

ennui [ medieval corpus ]

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