From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #60 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Wednesday, February 27 2002 Volume 02 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] rolling stone review of alanis 'under rug swept' - they can bite my arse. ["riot poofter" ] RE: [oztori] Tori's Grammy ["Dylan Plant" ] Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy ["Lavenda" ] [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP [AndrewR ] [oztori] f-f-f fantastic... TORI. [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy ["Double Serpent" ] RE: [oztori] Tori's Grammy ["Dylan Plant" ] [oztori] My monitor just fizzled [AndrewR ] [oztori] Brisvegas meet last Sunday [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP [Nathan R ] RE: [oztori] rolling stone review of alanis 'under rug swept' - they can bite my arse. ["Renee Hill" ] [oztori] FLINCH live at the whiskey ["Renee Hill" Subject: Re: [oztori] rolling stone review of alanis 'under rug swept' - they can bite my arse. bah! that review was really fucking craptacular! and sexist as all hell. but opn a brighter note, now that i have it, URS is fucking brilliant, possibly as good as SFIJ and maybe worthy of joing the small list of albums-almost-as-good-as-tori (soon to be renamed albums-almost-as-good-as-kate-or-tori methinks)... what do all you other lanish fans reckon? i still like hands clean best, but every track in still in the race for the bets song honours at this stage... its all just fantastic! enough optimism for one day xx Roozi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:34:47 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] rolling stone review of alanis 'under rug swept' - they can bite my arse. >i still like hands clean best, but every track in still in the race for >the bets song honours at this stage... its all just fantastic! its definitely my #1 lani album. i STILL haven't decided a best track, but it'll probably be one of "flinch", "hands clean", "precious illusions" and "21 things...". best b-side so far is, without question, "unprodigal daughter". >enough optimism for one day it makes a nice change in your emails roozi LOL np: pj harvey "catherine" xoxo dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:35:36 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] tori and the chippendales Daniel G wrote: > although it does remind me of a situation kate got > herself into. she'd just > bought the Raspberry Swirl 12" and we were talking > and all of a sudden she > was panicking - "WHY IS THERE A MAN SINGING > RASPBERRY SWIRL!?!?!?!?". She > was playing it at 33rpm instead of 45. I had to > laugh. Hehe dat'z funnay! > i'm on a PJ kick at the moment. i can play "one > line" on guitar, so yay me. "That don't impress me much". What'd *really* impress me would be if you could play Man-Size Sextet on the fiddle ;) All correspondence (ance? sp? I'm too lazy to look it up) to the usual address, Nathan. . Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:45:11 +1100 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy It will be on ch10 at 8:30pm on Friday (the 1st). I can't see any listing for it on Foxtel. She didn't attend the last Grammy's she was nominated for, so who knows. There's been no mention of her doing a live performance, so I would say no. X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.envy.nu/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:10:04 +1100 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori's Grammy Channel V is doing a live Brit Awards thingie on Thursday, so maybe they'll do the same for the Grammy's? or maybe that's free to air domain exclusively, who knows? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lavenda Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:45 PM To: oztori@smoe.org Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy It will be on ch10 at 8:30pm on Friday (the 1st). I can't see any listing for it on Foxtel. She didn't attend the last Grammy's she was nominated for, so who knows. There's been no mention of her doing a live performance, so I would say no. X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.envy.nu/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:24:03 +1100 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy I didn't think of Channel V, but it seems they'll only be showing it about 10 days old (7pm on the 10th (a Sunday)) And the Brit awards have already been haven't they? X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.envy.nu/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dylan Plant To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori's Grammy > Channel V is doing a live Brit Awards thingie on Thursday, so maybe > they'll do the same for the Grammy's? or maybe that's free to air domain > exclusively, who knows? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Lavenda > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:45 PM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy > > > It will be on ch10 at 8:30pm on Friday (the 1st). > > I can't see any listing for it on Foxtel. > > She didn't attend the last Grammy's she was nominated for, so who knows. > > There's been no mention of her doing a live performance, so I would say > no. > > X > Lavs > (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) > > ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ > > Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful > - 'Merman', Tori Amos > > ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ > http://www.envy.nu/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage > http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:27:22 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP At 13:28 26/02/2002 +1100, Jonceski Jasmina wrote: >Hey, >Umm...just wanted to say >BFP is the coolest album. It is just a wonderful album. >Prof Widow isn't as annoying as it used to be, I used to detest that >song, but it seems okay now. Anbd Twinkle is just wonderful. so, is >CALS (as always). > >That is all - things are too quiet. > >Jas You just provoked me to write an e-mail jas (like that was hard). Anyway, what is your most FAVOURITE part BFP? The bit where you just go "fuck yeah". I would have to say for me, is the 'multiple voice/lines/instrument" part in Father Lucifer. Simply brilliant. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:49:00 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] f-f-f fantastic... TORI. At 16:07 26/02/2002 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >>Erm, I don't see the similarities myself... 'spesh not >>b/w the studio version of Sugar and Honey. I don't >>even see the live connection. > >no i meant the live sugar and the studio (i think) honey. I dunno, maybe >it's just a feeling. I used to get it with Sugar, now I get it with Honey. >Maybe that's all, but I think they're similar-sounding. I think the similarities between Sugar and Honey, is that they are both FUCKING fantastic songs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:23:32 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy >I didn't think of Channel V, but it seems they'll only be showing it about >10 days old (7pm on the 10th (a Sunday)) I saw an ad on TV last night - IIRC the grammys will be on channel 10 this friday night @ 8:30. xoxo dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:30:17 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP >You just provoked me to write an e-mail jas (like that was hard). Anyway, >what is your most FAVOURITE part BFP? The bit where you just go "fuck >yeah". I would have to say for me, is the 'multiple voice/lines/instrument" >part in Father Lucifer. Simply brilliant. That part I TOTALLY agree with. That part. All of Caught A Lite Sneeze. The Professional Widow coda, the "ticket to your late show" section of PTDO. ooooh you've gone and put me in a pele mood now! LOL xoxo dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:07:38 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rala?= Subject: Re: [oztori] OT (sort-of) HFL Hello to all! Well for those of you invloved with the Sydney Tori Birthday Bash last year, you might remember that we not only raised funds for RAINN, but for HFL (Here For Life) too. Here for Life run several nation wide fundraising days throughout the year to raise awareness of youth suicide and help with it's prevention, and one of these days is coming up soon - National Boardshorts day on Friday the 22nd March (You might have heard of this before). I was wondering if anyone was interested in getting together to sell the boardshorts day badges ($2 ea) on the day? So oztori can show it's support! We could have bunches of us all around Oz doing our bit. Email/call me if you are interested! Rala ;oD ===== 'I started to accept the mess I'm in. I know that mess spelled backwards is ssem and I felt much better armed with that information' ~ Tori Amos ~ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:19:35 +1000 From: "Double Serpent" Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy Lavs said >It will be on ch10 at 8:30pm on Friday (the 1st). >She didn't attend the last Grammy's she was nominated for, so who >knows. >There's been no mention of her doing a live performance, so I would >say >no. Thanks for that Lavs! Dan said: >I saw an ad on TV last night - IIRC the grammys will be on channel 10 >this >friday night @ 8:30. You were watching Charmed, weren't you! I saw it too. I'll have to tape it. I'm spending the weekend at the Sunshine Coast. Thanks everyone. ~Bindy _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:42:53 +1100 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori's Grammy Nah the Brit Awards on V tomorrow....can't wait to see Kylie's version of Can't Get You Out Of My Head to Blue Monday...should be interesting!!!!! There a two line post!!! Tori rules!!! Dylan - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lavenda Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:24 PM To: oztori@smoe.org Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy I didn't think of Channel V, but it seems they'll only be showing it about 10 days old (7pm on the 10th (a Sunday)) And the Brit awards have already been haven't they? X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.envy.nu/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dylan Plant To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori's Grammy > Channel V is doing a live Brit Awards thingie on Thursday, so maybe > they'll do the same for the Grammy's? or maybe that's free to air domain > exclusively, who knows? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Lavenda > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:45 PM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori's Grammy > > > It will be on ch10 at 8:30pm on Friday (the 1st). > > I can't see any listing for it on Foxtel. > > She didn't attend the last Grammy's she was nominated for, so who knows. > > There's been no mention of her doing a live performance, so I would say > no. > > X > Lavs > (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) > > ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ > > Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful > - 'Merman', Tori Amos > > ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ > http://www.envy.nu/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage > http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:22:29 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] My monitor just fizzled My monitor just went feaky and the screen srank/shrunk and then an acrid smell eminated from the back of the monitor. This is the last straw, frankly. Luckily, I had a 'back up' monitor - it was upstairs, not being used... it was from my brother's 1993 486 (the keyboard I'm already using too...) So this computer is either 6 years old or 9 years old! This freakin' monitor, it's so curved and small and the colours are all fucked up. This sucks. But at least I have a monitor (lizard) to post more useless e-mails to oztori! That smoke/smell by the way - is that dangerous, cause I can still smell it! *opens window*. Oh, and people who are Buffy/Angel fans - Angel started back last night at 10:30 on Ten... (for those in NRL states) and those in AFL states, it'll be on tonight... Buffy will start back NEXT MONDAY for all states. Enterprise is on tonight at 10:30 on Nein. HOW BAD IS THAT THEME SONG. SOOO BAD. Ewwww the sharpness of this monitor is TERRIBLE, it's fuzzy... my eyes are going to be shot to hell! ;o) Andrew Typing like it's 1993. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:26:59 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Brisvegas meet last Sunday YEAH! I actually made it to a 'meet'... Hi Nina, Becc and Nina's friend Ally. It was fun, and "Mulholland Drive" is one completely fucked up, yet brilliant film. It was a fun afternoon - quite laid back, and nice to put some faces to names. That's a grand total of 3 oztorians I met! We are planning on doing the Lord of the Rings (5 BAFTAS! WOO!) visit in Smarch. (lousy smarch weather)... oh that is MARCH! Anyway, I've just found my blue key and I'm going to go see if it fits a small blue box I have in my bag. ;o) Andwise Gamgee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:50:07 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP AndrewR wrote: > what is your most FAVOURITE part BFP? The bit where > you just go "fuck > yeah". I would have to say for me, is the 'multiple > voice/lines/instrument" > part in Father Lucifer. Simply brilliant. Yeah dat'z good indeed. Musically, for moi, the 'highlight' of Boys for Pele is the piano solo in "Horses", with the arpeggio thingies. It's prolly my fave 'Tori rockin' out on the piano' moment, along with the piano solo after the first "hello, hello, hello" part in the live 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'. Other Pele highlights for moi: *the "you think I'm a queer, I think you're a queer" bits of Blood Roses. *the "God knows I KNOW I've thrown away those GRACES" bit of Blood Roses. *"She could outrun the fastest slug" bit of Marianne. *"I'm hiding it well Sister Ernestine" from CALS. *"he did it right quickly, a merciful man" line from Talula - makes me smile. *"Don't make me scratch on your door" verse of PTDO. *gasp* it looks like I'm praising Tori for once! Although.. I shall try my very hardest to refrain from listing the "most shit moments from BFP", as there is only so much space in one e-mail ;) Nathan. . Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:24:51 +1100 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] Favourite moment from BFP what is your most FAVOURITE part BFP? The bit where you just go "fuck >yeah". I would have to say for me, is the 'multiple voice/lines/instrument" >part in Father Lucifer. Simply brilliant. andrew, you are SO right. either that bit or maybe "maybe you'll find me a sailor, a tailor/ and maybe together we'll make mother well" in horses. i don't know why but that bit really affcets me. or maybe the end of twinkle. its just like the great reviews in Q mag (i think) where they give a best bit for each album... like the best bit in choirgirl is "king solomon's moines exit 75 i'm still alive, i'm still alive" :) great topic too! xx Roozi - ----------[contested histories]-------------------------------------- "there is fiction in the space between the lines on your page of memories write it down but it doesn't mean you're not just telling stories there is fiction in the space between you and me" - - tracy chapman (telling stories) "what part of our history's reinvented and under rug swept? what part of your memory is selective and tends to forget? what's with this distance it seems so obvious?" - - alanis morissette (hands clean) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:40:55 +1100 From: "Renee Hill" Subject: [oztori] argh! *miserable wailing pauses* did anyone happen to record Letterman last night? Lani was on........ and I missed it. *re-commences wailing miserably* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:43:40 +1100 From: "Renee Hill" Subject: RE: [oztori] rolling stone review of alanis 'under rug swept' - they can bite my arse. roozi asked: >what do all you other lanish fans reckon? hmmm... I've loved 'surrendering' since I first heard it... mainly the bit where she says 'and i'm thrilled to let you in / overjoyed to be let in in kind'.... it's pure lani heaven :) Fave bside would definitely be Unprodigal Daughter. I can't get it out of my head (in a non Kylie Minogue way)! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:43:43 +1100 From: "Renee Hill" Subject: [oztori] explanation of hands clean... My bet is it's Leslie Howe. USAToday - When your breakthrough album sells 15 million copies, commercial expectations for the follow-up can be ludicrously high. So Alanis Morissette realizes why her last new CD, 1998's Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie, was perceived as a disappointment - and why her current, fast-rising single, Hands Clean, is being touted as a comeback. "It's understandable if people are speaking in relative terms," says the Canadian singer/songwriter, who first conquered American radio with Jagged Little Pill, a coming-of-age manifesto released in 1995. "But I also know that every song I've ever written has been a real snapshot of my life, so there's no one song I feel more connected to than the others." Hands Clean, the first single from her new CD, Under Rug Swept, due Feb. 26, is already one of the top five most-played songs on adult top-40 and modern adult-contemporary radio and is poised to enter the top 20 in the larger mainstream top 40 format. The song might seem to have particular personal resonance: It was inspired by a relationship with a much older man whom Morissette, 27, met during her years as a fledgling teen star in Canada. The man's voice is represented in the song's verses, attempting to justify what could be viewed as exploitative behavior: "If it weren't for your maturity/None of this would have happened ... /Just make sure you don't tell on me/Especially to members of your family." "I had been silencing myself about it at the request of the person who the song's about for a very long time," Morissette says. "I wasn't motivated by seeking revenge. It was a way for me to liberate myself from pushing something away." Morissette does not disclose the name of the man in the song or in conversation. "It was just someone I worked with in the industry," she says. "The relationship was professional and creative if I can call some of it that, and sexual and everything. It was all sort of connected together in ways that make me think, in retrospect, 'OK, that's a little complicated for an emotionally young person to deal with.' " The singer is heartened by the obvious connection others have made with her story. "I haven't spoken to many people about the song, but the very thought of having a young woman - or young man, for that matter - feel validated in an experience that is at all similar to what I went through, and not feel isolated or like a freak, is gratifying beyond words." Morissette also is pleased with the progress that Under Rug Swept represents in general. Her last album, she says, "was written under such pressure. There was such a rebellion on my end in terms of how I structured (songs). It was my way of saying, 'I know what everyone expects of me, but I'm just gonna do what I want.' And I did that with a vengeance. I was also embracing spirituality in a way that I had never done. Now there's this sense of integration and an acceptance that today is today. I don't have to worry about who I was 15 years ago or who I'm going to be in seven years. I can just focus on who I am right now and allow that to be what it is." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:46:25 +1100 From: "Renee Hill" Subject: [oztori] OT - by the way... I'm employed again - did I forget to mention this? I have a new job starting Monday! Yay for Renee!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:04:18 +1100 From: "Renee Hill" Subject: [oztori] FLINCH live at the whiskey Hey all lani lovers Put your URS disc into the pc, go to the site and you can dl the above. It's a stunning version... ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #60 ***************************