From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #34 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Friday, February 1 2002 Volume 02 : Number 034 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] Yes, Aneustachia [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] OT: [ozsnippetsfromnayth'slocalnewspaper] continued ["Li" ] [oztori] nine objects of desire ["nina riddel" ] Re[2]: [oztori] OT: Barely covered innocence, Mamma's who teach their kiddies better dan dat, and Reaching out for thongs in a nursing home. [] [oztori] OT - Ana Voog ["Jasmina J" ] [oztori] miss merchant - divine! [ot] [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] The Neverending Brizzy Meet Story [Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Yes, Aneustachia Li wrote: > > My left Eustachian tube is really itchy. > > that's disgusting! Why is it 'disgusting'? The Eustachian tube (tube that runs from middle ear to back of throat) is 'natural' and 'God-given'. In other news.. TORI MUST DIE. From the Dent: "Thanks to Toriphile Steve K for being the first to email me about this. The March 2002 issue of Spin Magazine includes a section called "What got the artists hot" where artists put their top five albums or singles. Tori is one of the artists and she lists the following in her top 5: 1.Manu Chao, Proxima Estacion: Esperanza 2.Basement Jaxx, Rooty 3.Daft Punk, Discovery 4.Placebo, Black Market Music 5.Groove Armada, Goodbye Country (Hello Nightclub)" Daft Punk's "Discovery" is the one that contains that god-awful "One More Time"!! Aaaaaaaaaagh! Nathan. . Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:23:32 +1030 From: "Li" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: [ozsnippetsfromnayth'slocalnewspaper] continued I'll shoot myself in the leg (I was going to say head but well, that would be lying...) if I start a big online fight with this. BUT... what do you guys think about what's happening to the asylum seekers? I mean, you're a pretty liberal (not party-wise) bunch right? Is it something in the water, or are Australians just innately xenophobic? Don't mean to sound so preachy but I never knew that there were so many fucking racists (disguised by crap analogies about immigration from england. Like when was the last time England was under bombardment? In the 1940s maybe?) hiding in my local bushes. And as a sidenote that is a curious (because it's true) point nayth. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan R" To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:07 PM Subject: [oztori] OT: [ozsnippetsfromnayth'slocalnewspaper] continued > Sorry to be completely "OT" again (lol like I've ever > felt any remorse for being so before)... but still > reading stupid letters appearing in my "news"paper, I > must comment on my observation: > > EVERY ignorant "person" who writes in ALWAYS puts "the > VAST MAJORITY" somewhere in their letter - ie, "the > vast majority" of Ostraaaaaaayans think that asylum > seekers should be killed, that Pauline Hanson's views > are "right", that share Christian ideals, etc. > > God they need to learn some new vocabulary. > > > Nathan. > > . > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:59:26 +1100 From: "Jasmina J" Subject: [oztori] OT - Ana Voog Howdy, I recently had the pleasure of gaining a copy of Ana Voog's album Ana Voog.com and one of her albums from The Blue Up? (her band from the late 80s and early 90s), Spool Forka Dish. Has anyone else ever listened to her music? Actually, has anyone ever checked her out, she's the camchick who interviewed Tori on cam i think it was in 99 or even 98, can't remember. Her site is www.anacam.com So, at first I thought it would be total trash but in fact, to amazement I found myself liking what I was hearing. Her influences are heavily noticeable - - namely Tori, Bjork, Cocteau Twins, Adam Ant, Madonna, my mind is at a loss of who else....but there is others So, has anyone else every listened to her stuff? That is all. Jas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:40 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] nine objects of desire Oh! It's gorgeous... I have about 3 copies in our house (owned by different people) - I think we got them all second-hand. >Then I bought all her albums (except >Nine Objects of Desire which I couldn't find)... but >it was already too late - I kind of 'out-Suzanned' >myself ;) n. still playing catchup. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:26:07 +1000 From: Becc Subject: Re[2]: [oztori] OT: Barely covered innocence, Mamma's who teach their kiddies better dan dat, and Reaching out for thongs in a nursing home. On Thursday, 30/01/2002 various people wrote: >> > Just checked out the new "Sing" book for the year, >> OMG I remember those things! When I was in Grade 4, >> we had to sing 2 songs from the "Sing '88" book - >> "Thongs" (no, not the item of underwear) and "Reach >> Out For Peace" to a buncha oldies in a nursing home! L> Me too! Except we did that Aladdin song and the Gilligan's (sp?) Island L> theme. Okay, how the hell did you people all score up-to-date 'Sing' books when you were in school? When I was in school I didn't realise the 'Sing' books were still being made, because all of ours were out of the seventies or something. Did you sing along with a radio show? We had to do it with old tapes, and gods we hated it. The only way the teacher could get us to sing was to bribe us with art or sports to sing such classics as 'Singin' in the shower (turn the water power, up so I getalotta steam!)' and 'I'm a Green Pea (freeze! freeze!)' and nothing the remotest (shut up, all you pedants) bit cool. Bet those little shits in school today don't appreciate 'Neverending Story' for the masterpiece that it is. ~Becc. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:15:43 +1100 From: "Jasmina J" Subject: [oztori] OT - Ana Voog I sent this earlier but it hasnt rrived in my inbox so I send it again. ** Howdy, I recently had the pleasure of gaining a copy of Ana Voog's album Ana Voog.com and one of her albums from The Blue Up? (her band from the late 80s and early 90s), Spool Forka Dish. Has anyone else ever listened to her music? Actually, has anyone ever checked her out, she's the camchick who interviewed Tori on cam i think it was in 99 or even 98, can't remember. Her site is www.anacam.com So, at first I thought it would be total trash but in fact, to amazement I found myself liking what I was hearing. Her influences are heavily noticeable - - namely Tori, Bjork, Cocteau Twins, Adam Ant, Madonna, my mind is at a loss of who else....but there is others So, has anyone else ever listened to her stuff? If you have what did you think? That is all. Jas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 11:48:45 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: [oztori] miss merchant - divine! [ot] well. wow. or something. yes, wow. i dunno where to start!!! a setlist would probably be good. mostly out of order [encores are in order], but pretty sure its all present and correct: Motherland San Andreas Fault Build A Levee Wonder Carnival Life Is Sweet Break Your Heart Saint Judas Put The Law On You Just Can't Last a cover song i didn't know another one she did acapella Hey Jack Kerouac This House Is On Fire encore 1 These Are Days [King of May & Stockton Gala Days - small acapella excerpts] Don't Talk Beloved Wife Seven Years I Don't Wanna Beg Gulf of Araby encore 2 Kind & Generous we (lil' dan, jason and i) met natalie pre-show...i got my ophelia & live in concert digipaks signed (yay!). very serious, intense woman. loved the botanical gardens. very calm and together woman as well. opening act - can't remember his name. lead guy from pretty violet stain. nice songs, if a little standard. good voice. EXCELLENT (i mean "oh my god this is so f*cking suitably wonderful") use of the beach boys' "sloop john b" or whatever its called to close. natalie - oh my god. i'm still deciding whether its going to knock PJ off the top of my "best concert ever" list. I think PJ is holding on thanks to "rid of me" and "the sky lit up"... she has the most amazing voice - strong, and distinctive and natural - most noticably in the acapella piece she did, there were a few flat notes, but it didn't suffer as a result. i can't really pick out any highlights...it was all so wonderful, very solid set, excellently performed. she didn't talk to us a lot, but enough. more talk in encores though. and alanis SO ripped her dancing off...natalie can actually move quite adequately. but natalie has the hair flicking and spinning down to an art. a few songs into the show she got people from up the back to come down the front to all the empty seats (the first 4 rows are like industry seats or visa preferred or some crap like that...we were in row A which was the 5th row and could see everything fine). she got everyone up and dancing for these are days, and noone sat down again afterwards, but no one cared. it was great! she went along the people at the stage (i stayed in my seat) asking for requests. some poor old guy from adelaide kept requesting "life is sweet" although she'd already played it...she wasn't quite sure what was going on...other requests [not played] included "trouble me", "ophelia", "jealousy", "eat for two"...i'm sure there were more, i can't recall them all. but all the first encore (except these are days) were requests. "King of may" and "stockton gala days" were both sung bits of acapella when someone asked for them. i think if she was in the mood for it, the whole band would have done "stockton..." (which i would have been over the moon with, i love that song!) but as it was, "don't talk" was pretty damn fine! she played "beloved wife", "7 years" and "i don't wanna beg" at the piano. "BW" and "7Y" were suitably fantastic - although she couldn't remember "7 years" and spent the first verse and chorus working out the chords again, then the band picked up and it was amazing. then she prefaced "gulf of araby" with a bit about how she saw a section about the aboriginies and the stolen generation at the australian museum and dedicated the song to them...and my god what a powerful song. this performance shat all over the one on the live album. during the musical bridge bit she was sobbing and...oh, it was so moving...then she left... ...then she came back on saying that she couldn't really finish the show like that, someone yelled out for "peace train", but she said "no this one was better" and played "kind & generous". which was a perfect way to end. lil' dan is now DEFINITELY a natalie fan. jason bought him tigerlily when we went for a browse in the 2nd hand shops, so he got that signed. he was a little dubious at the idea of owning a CD he's never heard of before and mightn't like. but 3 songs into the set, he was a fan. so...YAY! natalie rules!!! just wishing i had bothered to bring my "the wishing chair" LP to get signed...but then i would have had to carry it and that was too much bother. oh - she went on stage probably about 9:15ish, and finished 11:50, so it was a pretty full on show. i want to go again!!! xoxo dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This could get messy But you don't seem to mind Don't go telling everybody And overlook this supposed crime ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:50:19 +1000 From: "Double Serpent" Subject: [oztori] The Neverending Brizzy Meet Story Brizzy Oztorians: Quick note to say that I look forward to meeting you on Saturday. I'll see you at Fat Boys at 12pm. Nath - the 80's revival is still at work. Early 90's is slowly trickling in. The Cure are back with a vengence! New Order is back. The 80's greats have returned! Becc - I agree with you on the lack of appreciation towards The Neverending Story. I miss Falcore!!! "Turn around, look at what you seee-eee-eee-ee" ~Bindy _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 12:31:56 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] OT some might be interested in this. I've left the message attached in case some people missed it first time around, but there was a bit in the newspaper today saying that it is a hoax email - Oliver North was actually threatened by Abu Nidal, not Osama. Dan At 04:09 PM 31/01/02 +1100, Kate Findlay wrote: >just thought some people on here might be interested in reading this. >Akte >--- >What a difference 14 Years Makes >Do you remember this?? It was 1987! >At a lecture the other day they played an old news >video of Lt. Col Oliver North testifying at the >Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration. >There was Ollie in front of God and country getting >the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He >was being drilled by some senator; "Did you not >recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security >system?" Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir." >The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of >the audience," Isn't that just a little excessive?" >"No, sir," continued Ollie. "No? And why not?" the >senator asked. "Because the lives of my family and I >were threatened, sir" >"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned. "By a >terrorist, sir" Ollie answered. "Terrorist? What >terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" >"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied. >At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, >but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back >then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at >the attempt. Then the senator continued. "Why are you >so afraid of this man?" the senator asked. "Because, >sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know >of", Ollie answered. "And what do you recommend we do >about him?" asked the senator. "Well, sir, if it was >up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be >formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of >the earth." The senator disagreed with this >approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip. >(If anyone is interested, the senator was none other >than Al Gore.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:20:58 +1000 From: Zac Ariel Subject: [oztori] brisbane meet - final notice! tickets selling fast! hi everyone, one last reminder: to all in or near brisbane, tomorrow (saturday the 2nd); come along to the oztori brisbane meet. you'll find us at fatboys cafe .. fatboys is in the brunswick street mall in the valley, about half way down. getting there is easy. take a train to the brunswick street station - the train station is on the corner of wickham st and brunswick st. from there it's a short walk. take any of the buses that depart from the city on the northern end of adelaide st - most will stop at the valley. get off at either the warner st. or brunswick st. stop(s). if you're driving, the kings carpark (entrance in warner st) is usually available and fairly cheap (less than $6 i think) - entrance in warner st. also there's the chinatown carpark, entrance off wickham st., price unknown. if you don't want to pay for parking, try parking along these streets: ann st., mclachlan st., james st., wickham st., warner st. just be mindful of the no parking, etc. signs .. and absolutely do not park in anything marked a tow away zone. yes, they are very serious. and expensive. hope to see you there! zac ================================================== zac ariel - web junkie m: 0414 229 299 e: zac@comcen.com.au w: www.level21.net ================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:13:24 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] OT: [ozpolitics] Li wrote: > I'll shoot myself in the leg (I was going to say > head but well, that would > be lying...) if I start a big online fight with > this. BUT... what do you > guys think about what's happening to the asylum > seekers? I mean, you're a > pretty liberal (not party-wise) bunch right? lol that was a good line! > Is it > something in the water, > or are Australians just innately xenophobic? > > Don't mean to sound so preachy but I never knew that > there were so many > fucking racists (disguised by crap analogies about > immigration from england. > Like when was the last time England was under > bombardment? In the 1940s > maybe?) hiding in my local bushes. > > And as a sidenote that is a curious (because it's > true) point nayth. Here's my $0.05 (excluding GST and postage & handling costs). I rarely pay much attention to what is going on in the "news" (sic)/in the world, so I would hardly claim to be an 'authority' on the "issue"... but I think a lot of the recent 'backlash' has stemmed from the US terrorist (got that word is such a cliche) attacks, and "us" not wanting "them" "in our backyard". Whenever I read a letter to the editor in my local quality newspaper [which I seem to be doing an awful lot of lately], everyone who is against the asylum seekers ALWAYS stresses that they are "illegal" as their main argument. Plus I think the "vast majority" are tired of "minorities" getting "special" rights. But I *do* have to laugh when opponents lump 'left wingers' and 'church groups' together... lol. Nathan. . Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:19:37 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] The Neverending Brizzy Meet Story Double Serpent wrote: > Nath - the 80's revival is still at work. Early > 90's is slowly trickling > in. The Cure are back with a vengence! New Order > is back. The 80's greats > have returned! No. The 80's greats will *never* have returned until Mel & Kim make a comeback (er, somewhat unlikely given that one of them is no longer with us). Nathan. . Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:33:30 +1000 From: Becc Subject: Re[2]: [oztori] The Neverending Brizzy Meet Story On Friday, 1/02/2002 at 4:13 PM, Nathan R wrote: NR> Here's my $0.05 (excluding GST and postage & handling NR> costs). I rarely pay much attention to what is going NR> on in the "news" (sic)/in the world, so I would hardly NR> claim to be an 'authority' on the "issue"... but I NR> think a lot of the recent 'backlash' has stemmed from NR> the US terrorist (got that word is such a cliche) NR> attacks, and "us" not wanting "them" "in our NR> backyard". I think the events of September 11 have certainly exacerbated this "not wanting them in our backyard" feeling you mention, but I don't think it's any kind of new phenomenon. We seem to like to pride ourselves on how multicultural and "tolerant" (hate what that word implies, but anyway) we are, so long as our multiculturalism and tolerance stays between the four walls of the local Chinese takeaway shop. This whole War on Terrorism bullshit gives us a good excuse to bring out our xenophobic claws that we feel we should hide the rest of the time for political correctness' sake. In my opinion. NR> Whenever I read a letter to the editor in my local NR> quality newspaper [which I seem to be doing an awful NR> lot of lately], everyone who is against the asylum NR> seekers ALWAYS stresses that they are "illegal" as NR> their main argument. Sounds exactly like my mother. They're illegal, and they're "not real refugees". Of course they're not illegal at all, since asylum seekers is a legal status under International Law. As for this "not real refugees" thing, don't even get me started. NR> Plus I think the "vast majority" are tired of NR> "minorities" getting "special" rights. Yes, this seems to be true. It's pretty sad, though, when ordinary ol' rights - that we've (theoretically) decided all humans deserve - are deemed "special" rights when the human in question doesn't happen to be one of what people perceive to be the "vast majority". ~Becc. PS: Sorry for the double-up, Nathan - I accidentally sent this only to you on my first botched attempt. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:51:54 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: Re[2]: [oztori] The Neverending Brizzy Meet Story Becc wrote: > I think the events of September 11 have certainly > exacerbated this > "not wanting them in our backyard" feeling you > mention, but I don't > think it's any kind of new phenomenon. We seem to > like to pride > ourselves on how multicultural and "tolerant" (hate > what that word > implies, but anyway) Yeah. Hehehe.. "tolerate" I think is more accurately applied to a painful needle you 'tolerate' (although only just) whilst at the dentist's. > Sounds exactly like my mother. They're illegal, and > they're "not real > refugees". Of course they're not illegal at all, > since asylum seekers > is a legal status under International Law. As for > this "not real > refugees" thing, don't even get me started. Everyone is so wound up on the "illegal" aspect. Well, most of us surely perform "illegal" things every day - eg. going over the speed limit (hello Andy D we've not heard from you in a while), photocopying copyrighted material, or taping stuff off TV f'rinstance. > PS: Sorry for the double-up, Nathan lol that reminds me of when I did a first-aid course (yes, I may be handy to have around shall you decide to collapse!) and the topic of injured balls came up - something like "a sign of this may be 'doubling up'" (?? still haven't quite figured this one - do they mean 'guarding one's precious things [yay Tori content] with both hands'?). > - I accidentally > sent this only to > you on my first botched attempt. Oh rubbish. You were desperately trying to build up the courage to e-mail me off-list, but chicked out at the last minute, and used this as a convenient face-saver ;) Nathan. . Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:01:02 +1000 From: Becc Subject: Re[4]: [oztori] The Neverending Brizzy Meet Story On Friday, 1/02/2002 at 5:51 PM, Nathan R wrote: NR> Oh rubbish. You were desperately trying to build up NR> the courage to e-mail me off-list, but chicked out at NR> the last minute, and used this as a convenient NR> face-saver ;) Damn, am I that transparent? *looks sheepish, then promptly keels over, ostensibly worked up by the embarrassment of having been found out, but really in hopes that Nathan's first aid course included mouth-to-mouth* ~Becc ;) ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #34 ***************************