From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #5 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Saturday, January 5 2002 Volume 02 : Number 005 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in th... [Mysterilady20] Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in the tradition of 'stupid, irrelevant, poorly-constructed personality-type quiz things posted to the list') [] Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in the tradition of 'stupid, irrelevant, poorly-constructed personality-type quiz things posted to the list') [] [oztori] merde from 4 days ago [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - [Nathan R ] [oztori] Trees that aren't trees... [AndrewR ] [oztori] SLG questions ["sid" ] RE: [oztori] Trees that aren't keys... ["ennui" ] Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in th... [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Trees that aren't trees... [Nathan R ] RE: [oztori] On this day when God was a boy [Dan Stapleton ] [oztori] Grammy [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] merde from 4 days ago [Becc ] [oztori] '87 Bonnie & Clyde [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Grammy ["riot poofter" ] Re: [oztori] SLG questions [AndrewR ] RE: [oztori] Trees that aren't keys... [AndrewR > Something else pathetic about Peach is that while her name IS Peach... She wears a PINK dress! she says - "Peach has got it!" :::yeah, ok Peach, you've got NO brains or style honey::: Put THAT in your cake & bake it! *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 01:11:58 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in the tradition of 'stupid, irrelevant, poorly-constructed personality-type quiz things posted to the list') Roozi wrote: > this was moi: > > You are... Peach, the Helpless! LMAO! Before I opened your e-mail, I thought to myself , 'I bet it will say that Roozi is Peach' (who used to just be known as the 'Princess' back when I was Nintendo Nayth). > Life is fairly pointless to for you. It's a constant > cycle of getting > captured by Bowser, getting rescued by men who lust > after you either due to > your looks or wealth, and baking cakes. Any > involvement you have in a game > is fairly limited. You reinforce the bad stereotype > that women are helpless > beings. You are made of sugar and spice and > everything nice, yet incapable > of inteligent thought. Such is the life of Peach. > > hilarious, no? LMAO! I think this quiz has been the most accurate predictor of personality traits thusfar ;) Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:38:33 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - siren and you know you're gonna lie to you in your own way know know too well know the chill know she breaks my Siren NEVER was one for a prissy girl coquette Call in For an ambulance Reach high doesn't mean SHE'S holy just means She's got a Cellular handy almost Brave almost pregnant almost in love "VANILLA" and you know you're gonna lie to you in your own way and you don't need the light to guide you though this *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:57:01 +1100 From: "Jasmina J" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in the tradition of 'stupid, irrelevant, poorly-constructed personality-type quiz things posted to the list') >Someone needs to do one of these quiz things that >tells you which Tori song you are. ummm...this has been done(hasnt it, or am i imagining it being posted to oztori?)...but even tho it was a survey thingy i was told it was extrememly random. i got CALS from it tho so that made my day the day i did it. http://www.blueslinky.net/devotchka/toripoll/ . jas - who is majorly pissed off after being scammed by some fuckker off ebay for a tori single np - blue skies ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:45:55 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] merde from 4 days ago At 12:44 4/01/2002 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >hehe. YES! But not sam and frodo. Aragorn and Legolas, please. > >oh, and do the Brissie people wanna meet up and go see it again? YES! YES! I loved it soo much - that I'm a little aprehensive to spoil my first viewing - but that's just me being silly! I'm going to see it again no matter what! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:25:19 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - Mysterilady2001@cs.com wrote: (well, quoted the lyrics to Siren from somewhere, rather) *snip* > and you don't need the light > to guide you though this GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! (sorry, this is one of my 'pet hates') Tori does NOT say "to guide you through THIS" - surely any old fool with a set of half-decent cochlea can decipher it as "to guide you through THE SOUTHERN LANDS". God. I know you've only quoted them from a site, but this just makes me angry :) ..along with "peppermint TRAY" for 'tree' in Daisy Dead Petals.. and "but you DON'T, OH, DARE" for 'but you don't end there' in Here. In My Head. "Official" lyrics my ass! Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:49:32 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Trees that aren't trees... At 04:25 4/01/2002 -0800, Nathan R wrote: >Mysterilady2001@cs.com wrote: > >..along with "peppermint TRAY" for 'tree' in Daisy >Dead Petals.. and "but you DON'T, OH, DARE" for 'but >you don't end there' in Here. In My Head. > >"Official" lyrics my ass! > > >Nathan. The Peppermint Tree lyric made me think - another 'tree' lyric... We've got "The Peppermint Tree" from Here. In My Head and "The Pineapple Tree" from "Cooling" two plants which don't grow on trees... any others!?! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 05:40:41 +1100 From: "sid" Subject: [oztori] SLG questions Hi, Just got SLG last week due to poor first impression and poverty . I really like it - much to my surprise. I am wondering the songs came from, ie what artists and albums. I know about I'm not in love, Time, Heart of Gold, Don't like Mondays, Warm gun and Real Men", but the others are a bit of a mystery to me... It'd be kinda interesting to hear the originals of the songs I haven't heard before... Also, does anyone know if SLG was Tori's "contractual obligation album" before leaving Atlantic, or was the decision to do covers made for other reasons? BTW, as for the somewhat -ve comments re YKTR and SLG, I don't know that it's sensible to say that they are good/bad or better/worse, but rather they are like all of Tori's output in that they are just *different*! (Apart from the disco remixes which IMHO are basically crap - but interesting crap .) Later, sid PS: some Tori content in November and December issues of Q magazine. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:25:39 +0800 From: "ennui" Subject: RE: [oztori] Trees that aren't keys... A`dewR wrote: >We've got "The Peppermint Tree" from Here. In My Head and "The Pineapple >Tree" from "Cooling" two plants which don't grow on trees... Peppermint trees exist, we have many here. Pineapple trees do not exist, we have no bananas today. ennui [ die in winter ] _ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:11:06 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - In a message dated 1/4/02 4:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, nathanisoncrack@yahoo.com writes: << Mysterilady2001@cs.com wrote: (well, quoted the lyrics to Siren from somewhere, rather) *snip* > and you don't need the light > to guide you though this GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! (sorry, this is one of my 'pet hates') Tori does NOT say "to guide you through THIS" - surely any old fool with a set of half-decent cochlea can decipher it as "to guide you through THE SOUTHERN LANDS". God. I know you've only quoted them from a site, but this just makes me angry :) ..along with "peppermint TRAY" for 'tree' in Daisy Dead Petals.. and "but you DON'T, OH, DARE" for 'but you don't end there' in Here. In My Head. "Official" lyrics my ass! Nathan. >> Nathan dear, you really must chill. Neither is quoted in the truly only *official* source I have at my fingertips at the moment - the Lyrics book. I got the lyrics I posted last night from Aurdeys site. I am uncertain where she got them. Might be from listening, might be from the Great Expectations CD booklet. I don't worry about it. I could go hunt for the GE soundtrack amongst my collection but I'm not going to do that. I have a cold. All I want to do at this moment is drink hot tea & stare at my computer screen. People have been swearing they hear this or that in Tori's lyrics as long as I've been listening to Tori - near 10 years. It's nothing to get panties in a wad about. Besides, as we well know - she's been known to change lyrics, add or eliminate all together. Instead get angry about real issues - female genital mutilation, the rape of baby girls in South Africa, famine, etc. Listen to FINN, its calming. ~ Tessa *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Siren Lyrics - Tessa Not-so-Mysterilady2001@cs.com wrote: > Nathan dear, you really must chill. Hehehe.. Sorry, I forgot you're American and won't understand sarcasm :P (j/k) I'm just (slightly) over-exaggerating (as usual). Not going to burst any blood vessels over it. > Neither is > quoted in the > truly only *official* source I have at my fingertips > at the moment - Just because it's "official", doesn't mean it's correct. ie - look at the lyrics to Precious Things in the Little Earthquakes CD booklet - it says, "break their hold OVER me", when Tori actually sings "break their hold ON me" (as backed up by lyrics accompanying sheet music in LE music folio, and as anyone can hear when she sings it live). You don't get much more "official" than the lyrics in the CD booklet - yet they are wrong. Furthermore, those "official" Siren lyrics completely omit the "No teenage flash" or whatever TF Tori is saying, from memory (sorry, deleted your original e-mail hon). > the Lyrics book. Yeah, but Tori sure as hell didn't sit down and type those lyrics HERSELF. And even if she did 'read over them to make sure they're correct' - come on! As if she spent hours reading every single line to make sure. Plus she forgets her own lyrics half of the time in concert (or makes out that she does :P). > I got the lyrics I posted last > night from Aurdeys > site. I am uncertain where she got them. Might be > from listening, > might be from the Great Expectations CD booklet. The booklet only lists a few scant lyrics from that song. It's hardly the 'bible' on the lyrics to Siren. > People have been swearing they hear this or that in > Tori's lyrics as > long as I've been listening to Tori - near 10 years. Yes, but none of them have as expert an ear as I, m'dear :P > It's nothing to get > panties in a wad about. Besides, as we well know - > she's been known > to change lyrics, add or eliminate all together. Plus clear articulation of words is not her forte. > Instead get angry about > real issues - female genital mutilation, the rape of > baby girls in South > Africa, famine, etc. Pah! How dare you dismiss the 'issues' I get "angry" about as not "real"! :P > Listen to FINN, its calming. I'd use 'boring' and 'somewhat pointless' rather than 'calming' myself to describe that song. Hehehe... still wuv ya Tessa... It's just "that time of month" for me. Nathan. "I am not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:55:51 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in th... Tessa "tha undresser" Mysterilady2001@cs.com wrote: > Something else pathetic about Peach is that while > her name IS Peach... > > She wears a PINK dress! Yeah - she needs to wear a peach party dress ;) Wow - and that comment was even Tori-related! Nathan. "I am really fucked up" - Siobhan Fahey . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Which Super Mario Bros. character are you? (continuing in th... Tessa "tha undresser" Mysterilady2001@cs.com wrote: > Something else pathetic about Peach is that while > her name IS Peach... > > She wears a PINK dress! Yeah - she needs to wear a peach party dress ;) Wow - and that comment was even Tori-related! Nathan. "I am really fucked up" - Siobhan Fahey . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 08:58:11 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] Re: oztori-digest V2 #4 >http://www.angelfire.com/band2/pj4/free/torigetsangry(J).mp3 > >Funny as hell! MERCI! > >Now we need a source. What show was that? Anyone? it's GOTTA be fake... right? >I'm going through watching videoclips seeing which are widescreen and >stuff...I haven't hit any of tori's yet...do any spring to mind as being >letterboxed? hehe. everything I film is letterboxed cause my (brand new - yum) video camera has widescreen! >Nina-Nina-Bacwoom-Kweener Riddel what? >You missed: > >Beauty Queen/Horses >Leather >Blood Roses >Little Amsterdam but what about Precious Things? I went looking for that crazy impro you guys are always talking about and that's when I noticed it's not there! So what else meant to be on the vid? ta for Siren lyrics. Now, I retreat back to holidays. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:58:27 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Trees that aren't trees... AndrewR wrote: > The Peppermint Tree lyric made me think - another > 'tree' lyric... > > We've got "The Peppermint Tree" from Here. In My > Head I don't know what tree you've been smoking stuff from, but there is no mention of either a) peppermint, or b) a tree in Here. In My Head. Get out of whatever garden you're in! Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:49:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] [ozYOU SUCK] zac "i'd rather talk about computers" ariel wrote: >people, so far as i'm aware, oztori isn't a dick swinging contest. >speaking for myself, i really don't care to know (and i know, i know, >if i don't care to read, just delete) .. but really. it's starting >to take off-topic beyond a joke. mr. dan stapleton, will you kindly >just go and fuck someone? i'm sick of hearing about your supposed >manlihood. dan "i am a hypocrite" g: "thankyou zac, you beat me to it. and so eloquently. people please stop wanting to have sex with each other and bitching about it on list." why the fuck am i the only one to be shouted at for this? if everyone (and that is EVERYONE) stopped making fun of my age for ONE SECOND, then maybe i wouldn't have to retaliate. that aside, dylan's and nathan's sexual banter is just as explicit and nauseating as mine - why did they not get attacked for this? how can certain list members (and owners) mock my age and lack of experience (supposedly) in the same breath that they chastise the list for being too "sexual" or "off-topic"? l'il dan ~ ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:50:36 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: RE: [oztori] On this day when God was a boy wow, zan and dan, you're right: e-mails like this pale in comparison to mine. - --- Nathan R wrote: > Dylan "I'm so fuckable I need to wear a chastity > belt > so that I can focus on activities other than sex for > at least 5 minutes a day" Plant > wrote: > > > I thought > > 60 yo transsexual grandmothers couldn't become > > priests? > > Wait till you're a 60 year old drag-queen > grandmother > whose had enough of the drag circuit and instead > want > to focus your energies on pre-pubescent Christian > boys > in confession booths and you'll find out for your > very > self :P > > > > Mind you, celibacy is the choice among ugly ppl > who > > can't get > > any...remind u of anyone Nayth? > > *sigh* I'm 'saving' myself for YOU Dylan baby. > > > Nathan. ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:35:48 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] SLG questions (the winner is) sid (ney) wrote: > Just got SLG last week due to poor first impression > and poverty . I really > like it - much to my surprise. I am wondering the > songs came from, ie what > artists and albums. I know about I'm not in love, > Time, Heart of Gold, Don't > like Mondays, Warm gun and Real Men", but the others > are a bit of a mystery > to me... New Age - Velvet Underground '97 Bonnie & Clyde - Eminem Strange Little Girl - Stranglers Enjoy the Silence - Depeche Mode Rattlesnakes - Lloyd Cole & the Commotions Raining Blood - Slayer Dunno what albums they're from, except Enjoy the Silence which is on Depeche Mode's "Violator" (1990) or on their "Singles 86-98" (1998) compilation. > Also, does anyone know if SLG was Tori's > "contractual obligation album" > before leaving Atlantic, or was the decision to do > covers made for other > reasons? ??? Guess no-one really knows.. but there is much speculation that Tori did covers rather than original material so that Atlantic won't own the rights to any more of her songs. And it's also seen by some as an "easy" way for Tori to get out of her contract. > (Apart from > the disco remixes which IMHO are basically crap - Oh yes generally agreed! > but interesting crap .) That's highly debatable... Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Grammy Tori's nominated for 2 Grammys: Category 14 - Best Female Rock Vocal Performance For a solo vocal performance. Singles or Tracks only. 1.Strange Little Girl Tori Amos Track from: Strange Little Girls [Atlantic Records] [lol.. ironic given all the hoo-har over this "single"'s (non) release] 2.I Want To Be In Love Melissa Etheridge Track from: Skin [Island Records] 3.This Is Love PJ Harvey Track from: Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea [Island Records] 4.Planets Of The Universe Stevie Nicks Track from: Trouble In Shangri-La [Reprise Records] 5.Get Right With God Lucinda Williams Track from: Essence [Lost Highway Records] Category 22 - Best Alternative Music Album For solos, duos or groups, vocal or instrumental. 1.Strange Little Girls Tori Amos [Atlantic Records] 2.Vespertine Bjvrk [Elektra Entertainment Group] 3.Parachutes Coldplay [Capitol Records] 4.Halfway Between The Gutter And The Stars Fatboy Slim [Astralwerks] 5.Amnesiac Radiohead [Capitol Records] Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Tori'll probably win now given that SLG is debatably her weakest album, and that she's "left" (been dropped from) Atlantic. *insert 'eye-rolling' smiley* Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:53:31 +1000 From: Becc Subject: Re: [oztori] merde from 4 days ago On Saturday, 4/01/2002 at 9:45 PM, AndrewR wrote: A> At 12:44 4/01/2002 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >>oh, and do the Brissie people wanna meet up and go see it again? A> YES! YES! I'll second that. I did need to see it again. Sounds like a good excuse! ~Becc. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:24:17 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] '87 Bonnie & Clyde Ever wondered what "'97 Bonnie & Clyde" woulda sounded like had it been recorded 10 years earlier? "Don't worry about that little boo-boo on her throat It's just little a scratch It don't hurt Her was eatin' dinner while you were sweepin' Spilt ketchup on her ra-ra skirt" "Mamma's earrings are too big to hear you screamin' in her ear" "Come on Hai Hai We're goin' to the beach Grab a Rubik's cube And let dadda strap you in the car seat" Nathan. . Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 17:12:11 +1100 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] Grammy God tori is sucha token "alternative" grammy nominee! she ahs probably been nominated against teh same 5 people for the last 5 years lol seriously though, radiohead are probablya shoo-in for the album prize, and coldp-lay and bjork are more likely outsiders than tori. as for the singles, tori has a vague chance there but lucinda williams has been getting v good press. all in all i guess tori won't get a grammy. oh no. Roozi "wow, and award statue. Oh, its a grammy." - - flunkey at hotel to whom homer gives his grammy (won as part of the b-sharps) in lieu of a tip. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 17:52:40 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] SLG questions At 05:40 2/01/2002 +1100, sid wrote: >BTW, as for the somewhat -ve comments re YKTR But I *LOVE* YKTR and I think I'll need a bit of time alone with SLG ;o) (altough Rattlesnakes and Real Men are the most amazing tracks on the album - - and I love them to pieces already - it's just the rest of the album that I need to have some 'quiet time' with ;o) Reguards "Time" that was a Tom Waits cover wasn't it? I don't know much Tom Waits - but I've heard that wierd track of his latest album... "What is he building in there?" LOL! I want to see Tori cover that! - That is one wiered-arse track! ;o) Andrew np: "Without Help" - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier soundtrack. >and SLG, I don't know that >it's sensible to say that they are good/bad or better/worse, but rather they >are like all of Tori's output in that they are just *different*! (Apart from >the disco remixes which IMHO are basically crap - but interesting crap .) > >Later, >sid ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:10:53 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: RE: [oztori] Trees that aren't keys... At 02:25 5/01/2002 +0800, ennui wrote: >A`dewR wrote: >>We've got "The Peppermint Tree" from Here. In My Head and "The Pineapple >>Tree" from "Cooling" two plants which don't grow on trees... > >Peppermint trees exist, we have many here. Pineapple trees do not >exist, we have no bananas today. > >ennui [ die in winter ] There are peppermint trees!?! So peppermint is different to normal ole mint on the ground? ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V2 #5 **************************