From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #288 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Monday, December 10 2001 Volume 01 : Number 288 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] Glasgow review ["Hill, Renee" ] RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Glasgow review [Nathan R ] RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes [Holly Williamson ] RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes [Dan Stapleton ] [oztori] OOOFFF TOPIC- Some Shit I Thought You All Might Enjoy - VOTE FOR ME!!!!! ["ennui" Subject: [oztori] Glasgow review Did Joni really denounce Alanis??? - -------------------------------------- Alanis Morissette was notably crestfallen when her heroine, Joni Mitchell, pointed out how 'manufactured' an artist she was. Despite that damning assessment, Morissette's spiky songwriting is among the best we have had from a mainstream female singer-songwriter in a long, long time. Since Tori Amos that is. She's packaged perhaps (tonight in a vampish red robe and black high heels) but at least she exhibits control over the packaging she puts on (witness the fancy-dress playfulness of her recent album of cover versions Strange Little Girls). Tonight, though, Tori Amos is mostly going to be Tori Amos. She plays an entire set of her classic songs with only her own keyboard-playing as accompaniment. She may open with her Eminem cover 97 Bonnie And Clyde and close with an absolutely majestic version of Lloyd Cole's Rattlesnakes, but, in between, Tori Amos gives us a chance to scrutinise her writing as much as her performing. There is no doubting her ability in the latter. She playfully mocks the blokes in the audience for their diaper-changing prowess. Then she stops everyone's hearts with a searing a cappella version of Me And A Gun -- her now famous description of being raped at gunpoint. She creates the illusion of intimacy for an audience of 3000 while simultaneously drawing out the dynamic of quietly personal tunes such as Little Earthquakes, which drives along at a rare old rate. Her singing, at times, is almost supernaturally beautiful. Aided by buckets of reverb, she fills the Armadillo. She attacks the higher registers of Landslide and Etienne Trilogy with the full range of her Kate Bush-like arsenal. Sure, this may be only an illusion of intimacy but it's an enchanting illusion for all that. Intimate, enchanting -- the same words sum up the world of Amos's songwriting, yet perhaps in a more pejorative sense. Her vocabulary tends to repeat itself. Strangely for a woman from North Carolina, she returns again and again to images of snow and ice. It suits the brittle, fragility of minor-chord delights such as Little Earthquakes, but her world of fairytale enchantment can occasionally lapse into the whimsical. At times, the way she warps the imagery of her Methodist upbringing makes her a musical magical realist, a cross between Angela Carter and Kate Bush, but again she gets lost in the thick forest of her own mythology. For every majestic Me And A Gun there is the slightly self-indulgent Crucify. Given that she has just expressed a number of other voices by recording an album of cover versions, it's odd that this feature should reveal itself. The two songs that book-end her set, particularly the Eminem cover, prove what a broad church of viewpoints and opinions she can entertain in one voice. Her songwriting is frequently as beautiful and clever as she is in performance, but one wonders if she is capable of a more expansive, embracing style. Tori Amos can always be relied on to step outside her packaging visually -- maybe her songwriting is heading that way too. <<...OLE_Obj...>> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:55:48 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes Holly "I secretly wanna be Nathan's bitch so he can hang his shit on me 24/7" Williamson wrote: > Do you mean "as long as THERE are no lyrics...." > N'thn? Yes I realised that the second after I sent it. > Nathan "I believe myself to be a walking English > Dictionary and Tori > Amos Almanac but secretly this is all making up for > a hidden love of pink > feather boas and I try and keep it all as quiet as > possible" R wrote: lmao! Think I'll have to use that as a sig. of the Bliss vid chick: > Heh heh heh heh. She's a crazy-like type of > obsessive-looking > person. lmao.. How does one exactly look "obsessive"? I know whatya mean, and agree.. but I'd really be fascinated to uncover exactly what attributes of someone's appearance make them look "obsessive". > > People watching it must think all Tori fans are > > anoying, depressed, serious, moody types who look > up > > to Tori as some kind of Goddess. > > > > (erm... I don't think that's very far from the > truth, > > to be honest :) > > > .... yeah. At least I wasn't the first to say it. Hahahaha.. You will always trail behind my brilliant, original ideas Holz ;) (j/k.. luv ya work really babe). Nathan "I believe myself to be a walking English Dictionary and Tori Amos Almanac but secretly this is all making up for a hidden love of pink feather boas and I try and keep it all as quiet as possible" R. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:06:41 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Glasgow review Renee "I work for the record company that dropped Tori" Hill wrote: quoting Glasgow review article: > the same words sum up the > world of Amos's > songwriting, yet perhaps in a more pejorative sense. > Her vocabulary tends to > repeat itself. Strangely for a woman from North > Carolina, she returns again > and again to images of snow and ice. Maybe, but not nearly enough as she returns again and again to "yes, I said, and here" ;) Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:30:18 +1000 From: Holly Williamson Subject: RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes > Holly "I secretly wanna be Nathan's bitch so he can > hang his shit on me 24/7" Williamson > wrote: > Yes pllleeeeease! Wow, it's like you can see right into the deepest recesses of my mind.... do you have special x-ray, mind-reading abilities? > > Do you mean "as long as THERE are no lyrics...." > > N'thn? > > Yes I realised that the second after I sent it. > Still, it doesn't excuse the original blunder. > of the Bliss vid chick: > > Heh heh heh heh. She's a crazy-like type of > > obsessive-looking > > person. > > lmao.. How does one exactly look "obsessive"? I know > whatya mean, and agree.. but I'd really be fascinated > to uncover exactly what attributes of someone's > appearance make them look "obsessive". > The sleeve over her hand says it all. Think about it: she loves Tori soooo much that the only kind of comfort that could possibly satisfy her would be to have Tori herself hugging her and indulging her dreams of playing bosey for her in her own delapidated flat for 24 hours a day, every day of the year. But she knows that this can't be; she hates the fact that Tori can't personally comfort her. So instead, she comforts herself, sub-consciously pretending her sleeve is the warm arms of Tori, and she rubs her cheek against it, lovingly. THAT is the attribute of her appearance that makes her look obsessive. Have I nailed it? > > > (erm... I don't think that's very far from the > > truth, > > > to be honest :) > > > > > .... yeah. At least I wasn't the first to say it. > > Hahahaha.. You will always trail behind my brilliant, > original ideas Holz ;) (j/k.. luv ya work really > babe). > Hey.... but I'm experienced, babe! Probably just not experienced as you in coming up with new and funky ideas.... but at least I back you up in your originality. Just keep em' coming, or I'll have NOTHING to say on oztori. Hee hee. > Nathan "I believe myself to be a walking English > Dictionary and Tori Amos Almanac but secretly this is > all making up for a hidden love of pink feather boas > and I try and keep it all as quiet as possible" R. > I'm flattered! And yes, you have my permission to use this. It's funny cause it's truuuue. Hols. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:49:03 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes Holly "inverted commas" Williamson wrote: quoting me along the way: > > but I'd really be > fascinated > > to uncover exactly what attributes of someone's > > appearance make them look "obsessive". > > > The sleeve over her hand says it all. Think about > it: she loves > Tori soooo much that the only kind of comfort that > could possibly satisfy > her would be to have Tori herself hugging her and > indulging her dreams of > playing bosey for her in her own delapidated flat > for 24 hours a day, every > day of the year. But she knows that this can't be; > she hates the fact that > Tori can't personally comfort her. So instead, she > comforts herself, > sub-consciously pretending her sleeve is the warm > arms of Tori, and she rubs > her cheek against it, lovingly. Hehehe. I thought it may have been to conceal the razor-blade marks from her failed suicide attempts. > Just keep em' coming, or I'll > have NOTHING to say on > oztori. Thanks. At last I feel 'wanted' by somebody on this planet. *gets gooey, mushy feeling inside* > > Nathan "I believe myself to be a walking English > > Dictionary and Tori Amos Almanac but secretly this > is > > all making up for a hidden love of pink feather > boas > > and I try and keep it all as quiet as possible" R. > I'm flattered! And yes, you have my permission to > use this. It's > funny cause it's truuuue. True? It's not, I swear! I prefer purple boa's ;) (j/k). Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:56:16 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes - --- Nathan aRms are for cutting wrote: > Hehehe. > > I thought it may have been to conceal the > razor-blade > marks from her failed suicide attempts. FYI, a majority of self-mutilative cutting is not actually intended as a sucidal measure. it is far more likely that she's 'concealing the razor-blade marks from her succesful sutting attempts.' l'il - i wrote the mental illness handbook - dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:08:29 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: RE: [oztori] here, i said, yes Dan "put down the staple-gun!" Stapleton wrote: > FYI, a majority of self-mutilative cutting is not > actually intended as a sucidal measure. it is far > more > likely that she's 'concealing the razor-blade marks > from her succesful sutting attempts.' Thanks for the lecture.. when do I sit the exam? Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:43:21 +0800 From: "ennui" Subject: [oztori] OOOFFF TOPIC- Some Shit I Thought You All Might Enjoy - VOTE FOR ME!!!!! YOU'RE A WINNER!!!!!! DO YOU GET ANNOYING SPAM MAILINGS THAT PRETEND TO KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU ARE? WANT TO SEND THEM CRAP BACK JUST TO GET EVEN? WISH I WOULD STOP SHOUTING NOW AND WRITE LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING? Well it's your lucky day. I got a dumb spam the other day and thought I'd kill a few minutes by replying. Exhibit A - The Original E-Mail:------------------------------ - -----Original Message----- From: Oronto Savimbi [mailto:orontosa@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2001 4:40 PM To: nentech.enterprise@shaw.wave.ca Subject: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL FROM: MR ORONTO SAVIMBI TEL: 27-82-742-9911 E-MAIL: orontosa@yahoo.com ATTN: MANAGING DIRECTOR STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL I KNOW YOU WILL BE SURPRISED TO READ FROM, BUT PLEASE CONSIDER THIS LETTER AS A REQUEST FROM A FAMILY IN DARE NEED OF ASSISTANCE. FIRSTLY, I MUST INTRODUCE MYSELF. I AM MR ORONTO SAVIMBI FROM ANGOLA. I AM THE FIRST AND THE ONLY SON OF BRIGADIER ANOLD SAVIMBI, I AM PRESENTLY RESIDING IN SOUTH AFRICA. I GOT YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS FROM A BUSINESS DIRECTORY IN JOHANNESBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY. ON BEHALF OF MY WIDOWED MOTHER MRS ELISBETH SAVIMBI, I DECIDED TO SOLICIT FOR YOUR ASSITANCE TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF US$18.7M (EIGHTEEN MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLKARS). INHERITYED FROM MY LATE FATHER INTO YOUR PERSONAL /COMPANY'S ACCOUNT. BEFORE HIS DEATH HE WAS A BRIGADIER IN CHARGE OF ARMS AND AMMUNITION AND PROCUREMENT FOR THE ANGOLAN ARMY. IN HIS "WILL" HE SPECIFICALLY DREW MY ATTENTION TO US$18.7M WHICH HE DEPOSITED IN A SAFE BOX OF A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY IN JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA AS A TREASURE BOX, FULLY DOCEMENTED IN MY NAME (ORONTO SAVIMBI). IN FACT, MY FATHER SAID AND I QUOTE: MY BELOVED SON, I WISH TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO US$18.7 (EIGHTEEN MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS). I DEPOSITED THE BOX CONTAINING THE FUND IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN JOHANNEBURG, SOUTH AFRICA. DURING THE WAR I WAS VERY DEDICATED AND COMMITTED TO WINNING THE WAR AGAINST THE REBELS UNTILL WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT SENIOR ARMY OFFICERS AND GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONERIES WERE BUSY HELPING THEMSELVES WITH GOVERNMENT FUNDS AND PROPERTIES AND SENDING THEM TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES. DUE TO THIS WHEN I AND MY FORMAL SPECIAL ADVISER TO THE PRESIDENT WERE ASSIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT ( PRESDIENT EDUARDO SANTOS ) TO PURCHASE ARMS TO SOUTH AFRICA, WE SAW THIS AS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY AND DIVERTED THE MONEY AND DIVIDED IT AND I GOT A TOTAL SUM OF US$18.7, IN CASE OF MY ABSENCE ON EARTH, AS A RESULT OF DEATH ONLY, YOU SHOULD SOLICIT FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES. FROM THE ABOVE, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE LIVES AND FUTURE OF MY FAMILY DEPENDS ON THIS MONEY , AS SUCH I WILL BE GRATEFULL IF YOU CAN ASSIST US. WE ARE NOW LIVING IN SOUTH AFRICA AS POLITICAL ASYLUM SEEKERS AND THE FINANCIAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS OF THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA DOES NOT PERMIT US FINANCIAL RIGHTS TO SUCH HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, IN VIEW OF THIS, I CANNOT INVEST THIS FUND IN SOUTH AFRICA, HENCE I PREPARED TO OFFER YOU 20% OF THE TOTAL FUND WHILE 10% WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES AND 70% WILL BE FOR MY FAMILY AND ME. FINALLY, MODALITIES ON HOW THE TRANSFER WILL BE DONE WILL BE CONVEYED TO YOU ONCE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED TRUST AND CONFIDENCE BETWEEN OURSELVES. PLEASE TREAT THIS MATTER AS VERY URGENT. BEST REGARDS, MR ORONTO SAVIMBI N.B: CALL ME AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS MESSAGE ON THIS NUMBER 27-82-742-9911 Exhibit B - My Reply:--------------------------------- FROM: MR M MCSWEE (V.P. MARKET ANALYSIS) TEL: +61 (03) 868-642-7864 E-MAIL: mcsweejm@touch88.com.au ATTENTION: ORONTO SAVIMBI [[CONFIDENTIAL]] MR SAVIMBI, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXCHANGE YOUR US$18.7M FOR US TREASURY BONDS, OR ALTERNATIVELY A COMBINATION OF BONDS AND SPDR SHARES (FULLY FRANKED THROUGH CA DEVELOPMENT FUND). OUR LOWEST POSSIBLE COMMISSION FEE WOULD BE 21.18%, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER SEVERAL TEMPORARY SERVICES TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. RECENTLY OUR COMPANY WAS ACQUIRED BY GLF GLOBAL INDUSTRIALS & SUBSIDIARIES AND AS SUCH WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCEPT THE MONEY DIRECTLY BUT ARE PREPARED TO DIRECT THE TRANSFER OF THE SUM TO OUR HOLDING ACCOUNT WITHIN THE NAURU NATIONAL BANK, AND THEN TO A TEMPORARY TRUST ACCOUNT UNDER OUR SISTER COMPANY LIBERATION & PERPETUITY PTY. LTD. WHILE THIS TRANSACTION IS PROCESSED WE WILL BE ABLE TO OFFER YOUR FAMILY A TEMPORARY LINE OF CREDIT (UP TO US$1.22M) AS A GESTURE OF GOOD WILL AND TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR SHORT TERM NEEDS. IF YOU CONTACT MYSELF OR OUR OFFICE AND PROVIDE A LIST OF FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THIS ACCOUNT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THIS CREDIT THROUGH A BANK OF YOUR CHOICE. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR HASTE IN THIS SITUATION AND WILL BE WILLING TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUERIES VIA EMAIL AT ANY TIME WHILE THIS EXCHANGE IS IN PROGRESS. FAITHFULLY, MARTIN MCSWEE Exhibit C - Mr SAVIMBI Replies!:--------------------------------- - -----Original Message----- From: Oronto Savimbi [mailto:orontosa@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2001 4:46 PM To: ennui@tmbg.org Subject: RE: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL Dear Martin, I received your mail and have discussed it's contents with my Lawyer,He made saveral calls with the number you sent without anybody picking the line up,You can please provide me with your moble phone,to enable him contact you.With the view of giving you the details.But should you need to contact him directly,call him on 027-73-181-6300,his name is Barrister Jumo Alex Patricks. Waiting to hear from you soonest, Regards, Oronto. Conclusion(?)------------------------------------------- Hahaha my flatemate and I can't stop laughing! I think this guy needs to get a new lawyer. So what should I do? I don't think I'm up to laundering 18 million bucks, for one thing I haven't used my bank account in 5 months... If anyone has an investment banker friend who's a bit dodgy you could foward their number, otherwise it might be time for me to CC this to Interpol :) ennui [ Pillage & Plunder Associates ] _ ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #288 ****************************