From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #284 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Saturday, December 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 284 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] bookclub [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] FIVE FUCKING SECONDS [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] OT: Oprah's trash [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! ["nina riddel" ] Re: [oztori] sni[P.org].au [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] rooztori@smoe.Porg. [Nathan R ] [oztori] interested [Nathan R ] [oztori] OT (Oprah Trash): Strange Little Oprah - the male perspective [N] Re: [oztori] FIVE FUCKING SECONDS [Nathan R ] RE: [oztori] Tori [Nathan R ] Re: Re[2]: [oztori] bookclub [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Porg. [Daniel G ] [oztori] here, i said, yes [Dan Stapleton ] [oztori] Demos [Dan Stapleton ] RE: [oztori] Tori [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] here, i said, yes [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] here, i said, yes [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] Demos [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] Demos [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] here, i said, yes [Nathan R ] [oztori] ooh ooh! [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] Demos [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] ooh ooh! [Daniel G ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 19:23:36 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] bookclub >when a new site gets put up we could get a streaming video thing happening, >"Now showing on OzToriVision" is OzBooks, with your host Jas" actually...with my new video card *does wheel of fortune arm waving thing* you could tape yourself, mail me the tape and i can video it then we can upload it LOL OzToriVision!!!! okay i'm dreaming but its a fun idea! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:49:07 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! At 09:36 7/12/2001 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >how truly bizarre. i, too, have an upstairs book (several - upstairs is my >room) and a downstairs book, which is, at the moment, Oliver Sacks - An >Anthropologist on Mars! > dee do deed doooooo OMG - my DOWNSTAIRS book is Oliver Sacks - An Anthropologist on Mars TOO! WOAH!!!!! heh heh >spooky. > >also, i think that survey did go up... lets see... >http://barchester.home.dhs.org/ Which survey!?! - what about all the crazy questions from a month ago... And the two original ones - I didn't reply too... one because of time... and two - cause I thought someone was going to make a web-form where you could type in your answers... then you could read them on the page at your lesiure... I could cope with all that info coming in at once! :) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:50:30 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! At 09:36 7/12/2001 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >also, i think that survey did go up... lets see... >http://barchester.home.dhs.org/ I punched that into my large computer from the 50's using punch cards (not really- duh :o) and got this: Not Found The requested URL /~wayne/index.html was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.20 Server at www.touch88.com.au Port 80 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:53:53 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori At 01:22 7/12/2001 -0000, Rachael Chrisp wrote: >just got back from the show, > Wow! >we waited around outside for 1 and half hours afterward for a mini meet and >greet, and she finally came out wearing a beanie. beanie? Her friend!?! LOL! (yes I know what a beanie is ;o) Andrew - being facaetious... again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:55:55 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] FIVE FUCKING SECONDS At 19:29 6/12/2001 -0800, Nathan R wrote: >Does anyone else think that Tori sounds an *awful* lot >like CHER in that "lady.. LADY.. can you sit still for >5 fucking seconds"?? > >I was half-expecting Tori to break into "But I'm >Experienced Babe" afterwards :P Although seriously.. >I would much rather hear that than 'Waitress' (sic) >shit. > >Luv Nath. What song is this!?! what!?! *boggle* Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 19:03:36 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! At 15:53 7/12/2001 +1100, Daniel G wrote: >>I can't believe that I have been on this list since 1997... L'il Dan was >>only 10! ;o) > >You're doing well, especially considering I didn't start the list until >1998! Congratulations! >xoxo >Dan ;P BUGGER! I KNEW that '97 was TOO early - it was early 1998 then!?! Li'l dan was 11 then ;o) LOL! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 19:04:47 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori At 15:51 7/12/2001 +1100, Daniel G wrote: >> > heres the setlist (Manchester, 6/12/01) >> > >*drool* > >> > Mother >> > Me And a Gun > >meh (don't shoot!) > Was that pun INTENDED!?! ;) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Oprah's trash - --- Nathan R wrote: > Gawd that show is awful. I remember they used to > have > weekly shows subtitled "Changing Your Life" or > something (??? I know it wasn't that, but something > along those lines.. Oh that's it, "Recapturing your > Spirit" or something). Pur-lease! i think it's "remembering your spirit? maybe? i remember once seeing a "spirit" segment on the importance of oprah's dog's to her wellbeing! LMAO! one presumes/hopes she isn't doing anything illegal to/with them... > The show is somewhat amusing though - you get to see > what new depths Americans will stoop to on > television from a media/cultural studies standpoint, it's actually quite a fascinating phenomenon. there is such a huge market for bored pseudo-intellectual middle-aged housewives, and oprah "fills the gap" quite accurately, from the "book of the month" to the "invigourate your marriage" segments. for a cynical group of 20-something singles like us, most of it is see-through shit, but the fact remains that a helluva lot of "respectable" women (and i'm NOT being sexist here, it's just demographically accurate) count their daily does of oprah as "life enhancing." another funny thing is how she's incorporated the internet into the show.... with an Oprah message board, chat room and the like. i'm tempted to go and check it out right now, actually ;) > - eg. the couples having marital problems where they > discuss their sex lives (or lack thereof) on TV and > then some woman in the audience breaks into tears > and > gets up and says "the same thing is happening with > my > husband". God. I personally would think I'd end up > with *more* problems over the embarrassment of > having > burst into tears on international TV. i think people view it as the ultimate ego-satisfier: "oprah gave me a pat on the knee when i cried!" > If she's all for "loving yourself", then why does > she > feel the need to pile on all that make up, which > still > makes her look god-awful anyway? because part of loving yourself is making yourself look good, dearie! > And then there's > here weight issues - lol, you sound like an old pirate: "look at them here weight issues, m'laddies!" but seriously, i think she actually handled that quite well, as far as not trying to hide it and admitting her "problem" went. (don't ask me why, but) my household contained a copy of the National Enquirer last year, and they ran this huuuuuge story on her weight..... with diagrams and charts and everything! poor Oprah! > Oh, and Dr Phil and John Gray PhD just totally > rock... oh fuck, Dr Phil is soooooooooo bad! honestly, i could do twice as much as that guy! he SUCKS! sample convo: middle-aged weepy woman: my husband won't fuck me anymore! *sob* (am i in focus?) Dr. Phil: uh..... have you tried Viagra? it's cheap and easy, and only $25 per bottle! ring this number.... l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 02:18:21 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] OT: More Oprah Shit (aka, "Who is Tori Amos anyway?") Dan Stapleton wrote: > from a media/cultural studies standpoint, it's > actually quite a fascinating phenomenon. there is > such > a huge market for bored pseudo-intellectual > middle-aged housewives, and oprah "fills the gap" > quite accurately, from the "book of the month" to > the > "invigourate your marriage" segments. for a cynical > group of 20-something singles like us, "Us"? Last time I checked, you were still a teen, Dan. (though I'm sure you are very 'wise for your years' ;) > because part of loving yourself is making yourself > look good, dearie! I don't think hiring your own make-up artist so that you conform to society's expecations of how a woman 'should loook' is indicative of being truly satisfied with yourself. > but seriously, i think she actually handled that > quite > well, as far as not trying to hide it and admitting > her "problem" went. (don't ask me why, but) my > household contained a copy of the National Enquirer > last year, and they ran this huuuuuge story on her > weight..... with diagrams and charts and everything! > poor Oprah! I don't have a problem with her being 'heavy'... It's just.. about the mid 90's, the show was all about how she'd lost weight (personally I think she looked ridiculous when she was "skinny") and was such a better person for it. And how she had finally dealt with her "food issues". > oh fuck, Dr Phil is soooooooooo bad! honestly, i > could > do twice as much as that guy! he SUCKS! He's hilarious. He's so angry and totally blasts his 'patients'. Now that is displaying true empathy. God only knows how he 'passed' his psych training. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:40:01 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= Subject: Re: [oztori] bookclub --- Daniel G wrote: > actually...with my new video card *does wheel of > fortune arm waving thing* > you could tape yourself, mail me the tape and i can > video it then we can > upload it LOL > OzToriVision!!!! > > okay i'm dreaming but its a fun idea! So what if you yourself recorded a video 'message' for the grand opening of the new website? ;) Bevan http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:06:06 +1100 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] Porg. > Does anybody here like Seal? I got his album with 'Prayer for the >Dying' and 'Kiss from a Rose' on it, and it's really good music.... reminds Seal is great, you should try and get one of the double sets of his first 2 albums together, cause tracks like "Killer", as praised by Nayth, and "Future Love Paradise" (on Seal I) are splendiferous. i'm waitiong for kmart to reduce his 3rd album to 2 bucks, which they will eventually cause they have loads of copies. Roozi ps. yes, i'm back, i've been lurking for a while. i tried to send a more melodramatic emaila while back to say i was back but it doesn't appear to have reached oztori... or if it did, this paragraph is obiter (thats law-speak for irrelevant!) pps. dan h is still alive and well and now has a job at HMV. mmm... discount... ppps. thanks to lovely people who emailed me to say coime back. love you all (original email was longer but i can't be assed retyping) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:04:54 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: Re: [oztori] Rabbit... where are the FUCKIN' keys!?! > >also, i think that survey did go up... lets see... > >http://barchester.home.dhs.org/ > >Which survey!?! - what about all the crazy questions from a month ago... >And the two original ones - I didn't reply too... one because of time... >and two - cause I thought someone was going to make a web-form where you >could type in your answers... then you could read them on the page at your >lesiure... I could cope with all that info coming in at once! :) that's what i mean - can't remember how many crazy q's got in, but it was a form you filled out, and searchable. I can't remember who organised it, but it seems not to be working anymore. (it's at the address above, that i posted before) > >Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:08:53 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Oprah's trash At 01:54 7/12/2001 -0800, Dan Stapleton wrote: >--- Nathan R wrote: >from a media/cultural studies standpoint, it's >actually quite a fascinating phenomenon. there is such >a huge market for bored pseudo-intellectual >middle-aged housewives, and oprah "fills the gap" >quite accurately, from the "book of the month" to the >"invigourate your marriage" segments. for a cynical >group of 20-something singles like us, most of it is >see-through shit, but the fact remains that a helluva >lot of "respectable" women (and i'm NOT being sexist >here, it's just demographically accurate) count their >daily does of oprah as "life enhancing." >sample convo: > >middle-aged weepy woman: my husband won't fuck me >anymore! *sob* (am i in focus?) D'you know what is funny/interesting... they don't have a male equivalent show... now that would be funny stuff - but any 'guy' who went on to such show would be rediculed SO much - probably cause they'd all come off looking like a bunch of SNAGs... but it's funny how no one, or how there hasn't been a male 'spin-off' of sorts. Actually with the amount of men who avoid/hate/fear going to a doctor for normal problems - maybe such a show would be beneficial!?! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:13:57 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] sni[P.org].au At 22:06 7/12/2001 +1100, riot poofter wrote: [snip Seal... not to be 'clubbed' to (sorry heh)] >Roozi > >ps. yes, i'm back, i've been lurking for a while. i tried to send a more >melodramatic emaila while back to say i was back but it doesn't appear to >have reached oztori... or if it did, this paragraph is obiter (thats >law-speak for irrelevant!) >pps. dan h is still alive and well and now has a job at HMV. mmm... >discount... >ppps. thanks to lovely people who emailed me to say coime back. love you all >(original email was longer but i can't be assed retyping) prollay e-mail length was a bit too long!?! maybe you'll have to send it in too parts... if you can be... assed ;o) WELCOME BACK! WOO! np: "The Mummer's Dance" Loreena McKennitt. Andrew p.s. Isn't it good when your mother likes some of the stuff you like... I've been meaning to get the new Madonna best-of... she got it the otherday... for herself! WOO! Andrew np: "Skellig" Loreena McKennitt. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:33:35 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] rooztori@smoe.Porg. riot poofter wrote: *snip* Wow, so you haven't left the list after all? *breathily exhales in huge sigh of relief* > ps. yes, i'm back, i've been lurking for a while. i > tried to send a more > melodramatic emaila while back to say i was back > but it doesn't appear to > have reached oztori... Maybe the gods intervened and knew it wasn't in your best interested, and so it got 'blocked'. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] interested Yes, I am officially dumb. Of course I meant 'interest' and not 'interested' in that last e-mail. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:44:17 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] OT (Oprah Trash): Strange Little Oprah - the male perspective AndrewR wrote: > D'you know what is funny/interesting... they don't > have a male equivalent > show... now that would be funny stuff - but any > 'guy' who went on to such > show would be rediculed SO much - probably cause > they'd all come off > looking like a bunch of SNAGs... but it's funny how > no one, or how there > hasn't been a male 'spin-off' of sorts. Actually > with the amount of men who > avoid/hate/fear going to a doctor for normal > problems - maybe such a show > would be beneficial!?! That would be hilarious! All these men going on telly with their wives, making them look bad because they aren't told they're loved enough by them.. and breaking down in tears. And then the male audience members also break into tears and say, "That's exactly what's happening in my relationship". Women would be accused of being insensitive, and poor communicators. The male Oprah would, instead of trying to battle the buldge, be trying to gain muscle bulk... Gets it for a while.. but then loses it again. And of course there would be Dr Phillipa (female equivalent of Dr Phil), and Johnette Gray PhD.. hehehe. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:47:50 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] FIVE FUCKING SECONDS AndrewR wrote: > At 19:29 6/12/2001 -0800, Nathan R wrote: > >Does anyone else think that Tori sounds an *awful* > lot > >like CHER in that "lady.. LADY.. can you sit still > for > >5 fucking seconds"?? > > > >I was half-expecting Tori to break into "But I'm > >Experienced Babe" afterwards :P Although > seriously.. > >I would much rather hear that than 'Waitress' (sic) > >shit. > > > >Luv Nath. > > What song is this!?! what!?! Tori revelaed on Storytellers (or something) in '98 that she had written a song for Cher circa YKTR-era called "But I'm Experienced Babe", and sang the chorus of it during that performance - complete with Tori imitating Cher's voice! You should be able to find an mp3 of it somewhere. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:54:36 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori Daniel G wrote: > > > Mother > > > Me And a Gun > > meh (don't shoot!) OK, "meh" for Me and a Gun is forgivable.. but NOT for Mother! *shoots you* Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:25:42 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: Re[2]: [oztori] bookclub Daniel G wrote: > >Maybe she genuinely inspired people at one stage, > but > >how could she continue to do so now when the show > is so blatantly > >cashing in on this reputation? > > Two words : American Public. > I'm so glad I'm Australian and the high point of our > midday television > isn't fake inspiration, its shock and slander with > stan zemanek. I thought it was Zemanic? That show is truly boring though... List of about 5 different topics which they constantly re-hash. Not unlike this list really, when you think of it :P ("just kidding"!) And how can you overlook the good ole Midday Show with Kerri-Anne... Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 14:27:43 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] Porg. >pps. dan h is still alive and well and now has a job at HMV. mmm... >discount... oooh which HMV??? does this mean he can no longer hand out free muffins at the pie shop? (although i'd rather a free CD any day) xoxo dan ;) (who has applied for a job at sanity...and is sick of working @ coles so he hopes he gets it) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:30:15 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] here, i said, yes having nothing better to do at 1am this morning, i watched my Tori Amos - Live in New York vid for the umpteenth time. some thoughts: 1) dammit, she "here, i said"s so much in this concert! crap! 2) the american audience is soooooo funny! every now and then the video pans to some of the most ridiculous people i've ever seen, mouthing the words out of time and looking "deeply moved". LMAO. there's one guy during Precious Things who is fucking hilarious! he's swaying and fluttering his eyelashes, and mouthing the words all wrong. LMFAO. 3) to resurrect an old debate: SMOKING RULES! Caton plays Pretty Good Year while smoking a cigarette! LMAO! he's just sitting there with a fag in his mouth, puffing away, while tori plays! (waits for the obligatory fag comments: "so, Caton had a dick in his mouth?" and then: "homophobe! get off the list!" :P) 4) Caton does the most fucking awesome guitar stuff in that video, especially for CALS. 5) Maynard from Tool is my savior (i'm on an Orestes binge right now, for Perfect Circle fans {are there any?}) that is all. l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:36:21 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] Demos i posted this to tori-boot but fuck-all was said (hi, nadyne!). i'm in the process of mastering all of Tozza's demos for a bootleg compilation, using professional mastering tools and hopefully ending up with pristine remasters. the demos i have are: 1) Little Earthquakes (15 of em) 2) UTP (5, from Tori Stories) 3) Abbey Road (from the RAINN boot) what am i missing? any early stuff? (nayth, weren't there some recordings from pre-YKTR days? er sumthing?) help greatly apprieciated. one sexual favour granted for every helpful, non-derogatory reply. l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 14:55:22 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori > >> > Mother > >> > Me And a Gun > > > >meh (don't shoot!) > > > >Was that pun INTENDED!?! ;) argh no i didn't realise until now. xoxo dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:55:30 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] here, i said, yes Dan Stapleton wrote: > having nothing better to do at 1am this morning, i > watched my Tori Amos - Live in New York vid for the > umpteenth time. some thoughts: > > 1) dammit, she "here, i said"s so much in this > concert! crap! Yes indeed! One of the best things about the whole "StrangeLittleGirls" album is that she says "I said" so little (only in parts of Heart of Gold?).. probably because she didn't write the words. I wish she'd fucking QUIT the "I said" and "here" business. I love Bliss, but it totally *grates* on my nerves how many times she says "I said.. I said". She desperately needs some new ad-lib material. > 2) the american audience is soooooo funny! every now > and then the video pans to some of the most > ridiculous > people i've ever seen, mouthing the words out of > time > and looking "deeply moved". LMAO. there's one guy > during Precious Things who is fucking hilarious! > he's > swaying and fluttering his eyelashes, and mouthing > the > words all wrong. LMFAO. That's a chick isn't it? They pan to a chick during the chorus and show her lip-sinching about 2 lines behind what Tori's singing. I didn't buy that video to fucking look at audience members lip-sinching! Grrrrrrrrrrr! Makes me so mad. And how dare they have the audacity to be lip-sinching at a Tori concert! What dickheads. > 3) to resurrect an old debate: SMOKING RULES! *cough* No 'tduzn't. > Caton > plays Pretty Good Year while smoking a cigarette! > LMAO! he's just sitting there with a fag in his > mouth, > puffing away, while tori plays! Tori shoulda walloped him one. Cigarette smoke is one of the most noxious substances for your vocal cords. But then.. given the amount of vocal abuse Tori engages in during that performance ("guuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrl" growl, anyone?), I don't think she would have cared much anyway. > (waits for the > obligatory fag comments: "so, Caton had a dick in > his > mouth?" and then: "homophobe! get off the list!" :P) Caton's fucking over-rated. I'm glad he's no longer with Tori. Rumour has it he got the boot b/c of 'using' the sexual favours of female Tori audience members to allow them to see Tori. > 4) Caton does the most fucking awesome guitar stuff > in > that video, especially for CALS. > > 5) Maynard from Tool is my savior (i'm on an Orestes > binge right now, for Perfect Circle fans {are there > any?}) OMG that guy is even *MORE* over-rated than Caton! His "singing" sucks on Muhammad My Friend. Talk about ruining an already half-shite song even more. lol and those were my obligatory 'controversial' opinions for this week. Which will no doubt again go ignored anyway. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:17:09 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] here, i said, yes - --- Nathan R wrote (quoting me): > I wish she'd fucking QUIT the "I said" and "here" > business. I love Bliss, but it totally *grates* on > my > nerves how many times she says "I said.. I said". > She > desperately needs some new ad-lib material. i quite like it when she just sings vowels.... like at the begining of Thoughts. she actually does some great vowel adlibbing.... she uses her vocal and stylistic range a lot more.... > > 2) the american audience is soooooo funny! every > now > > and then the video pans to some of the most > > ridiculous > > people i've ever seen, mouthing the words out of > > time > > and looking "deeply moved". LMAO. there's one guy > > during Precious Things who is fucking hilarious! > > he's > > swaying and fluttering his eyelashes, and mouthing > > the > > words all wrong. LMFAO. > > That's a chick isn't it? They pan to a chick during > the chorus and show her lip-sinching about 2 lines > behind what Tori's singing. there's a chick too, but the first person that we have the pleasure of seeing in Precious Things is a guy, and he's bloody hilarious. > And how dare they have the audacity to be > lip-sinching > at a Tori concert! What dickheads. it's soooooo hard to resist, though! although, when i did it, it was slightly more subtle and less dickheadish. > But then.. given the amount of vocal abuse Tori > engages in during that performance > ("guuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrl" growl, anyone?), I don't > think she would have cared much anyway. exactly! i think that the NY show has to be the most "annoying tori-ism ladened" live set i've ever heard. in between the "here"s, "i said"s, "yes"s, "daddy"s, "grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"s, and that fucking annoying cradling thingy she does with her arms, i just about snap! > Caton's fucking over-rated. I'm glad he's no longer > with Tori. Rumour has it he got the boot b/c of > 'using' the sexual favours of female Tori audience > members to allow them to see Tori. LMAO. he does look sleazy. > OMG that guy is even *MORE* over-rated than Caton! > His "singing" sucks on Muhammad My Friend. Talk > about > ruining an already half-shite song even more. oh shut up! do you actually LIKE ANY MUSIC, Nayth? Maynard categorically DOES NOT SUCK! > lol and those were my obligatory 'controversial' > opinions for this week. Which will no doubt again > go > ignored anyway. my heart bleeds for you. l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 00:23:18 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [oztori] Demos At 19:36 07-12-01 -0800, Dan Stapleton wrote: > i posted this to tori-boot but fuck-all was said (hi, > nadyne!). Yeah, hi. I'm visiting my family back East and working on the next issue of Little Blue World. Your post to Tori-boot is hanging out in my inbox, waiting for me to get to it. But since you're impatient ... :P > i'm in the process of mastering all of > Tozza's demos for a bootleg compilation, using > professional mastering tools and hopefully ending up > with pristine remasters. the demos i have are: > 1) Little Earthquakes (15 of em) From the "LE: Demos and Outtakes" boot, right? > 2) UTP (5, from Tori Stories) Yup. > 3) Abbey Road (from the RAINN boot) That's not actually a demo. It is taken from Tori's 96 performance on Acoustic Cafe. > what am i missing? any early stuff? (nayth, weren't > there some recordings from pre-YKTR days? er > sumthing?) There aren't any known demos in the hands of fans from early stuff. Well, except for the tape that Tori made for Neil before the release of LE, but I don't think that really counts. You can fly to Minneapolis, find his home, and break in to get it, though. G'luck. ;) If y'all are familiar with the being called Jaymes Warnock, he claimed to have some pre-YKTR demos. Of course, he also claimed that they were recorded in the early 70s on a DAT. Jaymes apparently doesn't realise that DAT wasn't invented until the mid-80s. (If you're not familiar with Jaymes, he's well-known for ripping fans off. He alternates between selling really rare items (but never shipping them), or selling items that don't actually exist. He has claimed that Tori wrote "Hotel" about him, and that he played guitar on YKTR. In other circles, he's claimed to have co-written an album with Cyndi Lauper, and that he had a part in "Scream 2". He pops up every few months in various online fora, trying to sell something or other.) There's an MP3 around that claims to be from "Snow Cherries in France", but it's a fake. > help greatly apprieciated. one sexual > favour granted for every helpful, non-derogatory > reply. I'm waiting! :) /nm {just don't make me go to Canberra to collect, alright?} ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:33:42 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] Demos - --- nadyne@mindspring.com wrote: > Yeah, hi. I'm visiting my family back East and > working on the next > issue of Little Blue World. hmmm....i was just thinking of subscribing to that. > Your post to Tori-boot > is hanging out in > my inbox, waiting for me to get to it. But since > you're > impatient ... :P well dammit, you have to admit that tori-boot is one of the most "everyone for themselves" lists out there. like, if i'd posted that call for info on the van morrison boot list i'm on, i would have had a flurry of replies, and some B+P/trade offer to boot, before you'd even opened your copy of the e-mail! as it is, we're stuck with an endless bitching stream about the merits of TOMB, and not much else. which sucks. i think your e-mail earlier on about TOMB was spot on (don't ask me what you said, i just remember thinking it was good), BTW. > From the "LE: Demos and Outtakes" boot, right? yeppers. i should be getting the original silver to work from. next best thing to the original tapes :) > > 3) Abbey Road (from the RAINN boot) > > That's not actually a demo. It is taken from Tori's > 96 performance > on Acoustic Cafe. ooh! what is this Acoustic Cafe you speak of?!?!? sounds awesome. i may have to master it too (Abbey Road could do with some good polishing). > There aren't any known demos in the hands of fans > from early stuff. y'see, i thought that too, but i thought nathan was going on about some songs on beauty and a gun, or something. i guess i'm/he's wrong. > If y'all are familiar with the being called Jaymes > Warnock.... sounds like a prick to me. > There's an MP3 around that claims to be from "Snow > Cherries in > France", but it's a fake. what's it sound like? > {just don't make me go to Canberra to collect, alright?} whoops, didn't i mention that? you have to come here if you want your sexual favour. sorry! l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:44:35 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] Demos > > what am i missing? any early stuff? (nayth, weren't > > there some recordings from pre-YKTR days? er > > sumthing?) "Tori's Beauty And A Gun" had some up - I've got one of them in MP3 format - - its absolutely dodgy quality but you can hear it enough to believe that it is probably Tori. It's called "Car Full Of Boys". There were two others on the site, but I didn't get a chance to download those. I can't recall how big it is, but I'll just look (now you wait about a minute while I look, don't read on!) Its 1.1MB - my email can handle it, can yours? Also, Lil' Dan, if you could find a copy of "Distant Storm" from the China O'Brien film, that would be great because it sounds like a top song from the poor-quality version i downloaded once. Also, don't forget Baltimore, Walking With You (a must!) and It's A Happy Day. >There's an MP3 around that claims to be from "Snow Cherries in >France", but it's a fake. You still need Zero Point, Skirt's On Fire, The Underwear Is Black, To The Fair Motorcycle Maids of Japan and I'm sure there's a few others... > > help greatly apprieciated. one sexual > > favour granted for every helpful, non-derogatory > > reply. whoohoo! score! xoxo Dan ;) np - Radiohead - "Kid A" (which I love, so don't knock it) now doing - trying desperately to get CD-R to work again but I don't have the know-how *sigh* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] here, i said, yes Dan Stapleton wrote: > i quite like it when she just sings vowels.... like > at > the begining of Thoughts. she actually does some > great > vowel adlibbing.... she uses her vocal and stylistic > range a lot more.... Yeah but she needs to learn to use some bloody *different* vowels though! heheeh. But yeah 'vowels' are better than the constant "I said, yes, here" shit. > there's a chick too, but the first person that we > have > the pleasure of seeing in Precious Things is a guy, > and he's bloody hilarious. I swear it's a girl! Or maybe I just need to re-sit my "Gender Identification 101" exam. > it's soooooo hard to resist, though! although, when > i > did it, it was slightly more subtle and less > dickheadish. Yeah, but only *slightly* ;) > exactly! i think that the NY show has to be the most > "annoying tori-ism ladened" live set i've ever > heard. > in between the "here"s, "i said"s, "yes"s, "daddy"s, > "grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"s, and that fucking annoying > cradling thingy she does with her arms, i just about > snap! Let's not even get started on the cross-eyes and the spitting into the microphone. And WTF is she doing whispering to the audience just before the "off with superfly" bit in Horses? She looks fucking psychotic. of Caton > LMAO. he does look sleazy. And what is wrong with that? j/k > oh shut up! do you actually LIKE ANY MUSIC, Nayth? > Maynard categorically DOES NOT SUCK! heheheh.. I just do it to annoy you, dear. Nathan. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:20:51 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] ooh ooh! ooh, go vote for Strange Little Girl before voting closes for this week! http://triplej.abc.net.au/net50/vote.htm GO! l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:22:42 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Demos nadyne@mindspring.com wrote: quoting lil dan along the way: > > what am i missing? any early stuff? (nayth, > weren't > > there some recordings from pre-YKTR days? er > > sumthing?) > > There aren't any known demos in the hands of fans > from early stuff. > Well, except for the tape that Tori made for Neil > before the release > of LE, but I don't think that really counts. Oh *WRONG* Nadyne! Car Full of Boys and some other 1987 demo's were up on the Tori's Beauty and a Gun site, but that's since closed down. (and they were bad quality anyway). > (If you're not familiar with Jaymes, he's well-known > for ripping fans > off. He alternates between selling really rare > items (but never > shipping them), or selling items that don't actually > exist. He has > claimed that Tori wrote "Hotel" about him, and that > he played guitar > on YKTR. lol! Gotta love the delusional types. > In other circles, he's claimed to have > co-written an album > with Cyndi Lauper, *laughs* Is that something one would readily admit to let alone boast about? (j/k.. love Cyn really). Nathaniel. . Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 17:32:47 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] ooh ooh! i can see it now...your last words on this earth will be "don't forget to vote for strange little girl" At 10:20 PM 7/12/01 -0800, Dan Stapleton wrote: >ooh, go vote for Strange Little Girl before voting >closes for this week! > >http://triplej.abc.net.au/net50/vote.htm > >GO! > >l'il dan > > >===== >So then I thought I'd make some plans >But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. >-Tori Amos > >Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: >http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ >Send your FREE holiday greetings online! >http://greetings.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #284 ****************************