From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #275 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Thursday, November 29 2001 Volume 01 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [oztori] The Lord of the Hollies was Diagnosed as Lyrically D yslexic [=?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= ] Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 ["nina riddel" ] RE: [oztori] The Lord of the Hollies was Diagnosed as Lyrically D yslexic [Holly Williamson ] Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 [Dan Stapleton ] [oztori] JJJ top 100 albums [Nadyne Mielke ] [oztori] Another Request for Threaded News! [Simon Metcalf ] Re: [oztori] Hang ten honey ["Becc" ] Re: [oztori] Precious things [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Hang ten honey [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 [AndrewR ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:00:55 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= Subject: RE: [oztori] The Lord of the Hollies was Diagnosed as Lyrically D yslexic --- Holly Williamson wrote: > I hope your day is fan-tabulous, and the Pidgeon of > Lyrical > Correctness shits on your head. Okay just a brief post to let you all know I laughed my fucking guts up at this remark. Almost had coffee spurt forth from my nose. ;) Bevan (who thinks Holly is JUST WONDERFUL) Bevan "Yeah, I've heard of Tori, doesn't she sing that song Elegent Widow?" Burkin http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - - Get organised for Christmas early this year! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:10:12 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: Re: [oztori] Hang ten honey http://www.livejournal.com/~n26 http://www.epinions.com/user-nina26 >Oh, hang it, the entire Still Orbiting side >of To Venus and Back blows my mind every time!!! And Sugar!! Oh, Sugar!! >The wailing at the end! And Bells for Her! And Cruel - the opera in the >midst of all the drums .... I cannn be c-r-u-e-l darling, I don't know >wwwhhhyyya? God, have to agree about Sugar - wow wow wow. But, get this, when i got venus, i had NEVER HEARD pele OR choirgirl. So my first hearing of Mr Zebra was the live one (and it's great) and ditto with Cruel. those little bastards blew my mind! > Fuck, god, I love Tori so fucking much!!! *Torgasm!* woohoo! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:13:36 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 me: Tori - SLG Bjork - Vespertine Ben Folds - Rockin' the Suburbs Weezer - Green Garbage - beautifulgarbage if, in all honesty, i had to choose the "best" of the year (artistically and critically - given that i'm meant to BE some kind of critic) it would have been more like Sparklehorse, Radiohead, the Strokes, Lamb and Suzanne Vega, but these are the ones i play all the time and love. http://www.livejournal.com/~n26 http://www.epinions.com/user-nina26 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:17:23 +1100 From: Daniel G Subject: Re: [oztori] Hang ten honey > Yeah, well I agree. Dan G, do you think we could all send photos to >you, and you can put them up on the website?? is this a possibility? okay, then i can have one last-ditch attempt at getting the website ship-shape before zac and/or becc take over. xoxo dan ;) PS - JPEG format only, no larger than 20KB please, i don't want to spend hours resizing pics. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall It sings to me with glassy eyes and quotes from Kafka. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OzTori - http://www.oztori.org For all your Australasian Tori Amos needs. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:24:31 +1000 From: Holly Williamson Subject: RE: [oztori] The Lord of the Hollies was Diagnosed as Lyrically D yslexic Bevan recalled: > > I hope your day is fan-tabulous, and the Pidgeon of > > Lyrical > > Correctness shits on your head. > > Okay just a brief post to let you all know I laughed > my fucking guts up at this remark. Almost had coffee > spurt forth from my nose. > Heh heh, that would have been inspiring to see! Did anyone manage to get a photo of you tasting coffee through your nostrils? > Bevan (who thinks Holly is JUST WONDERFUL) > awww. :-) Bevy, YOU'RE wonderful! > Bevan "Yeah, I've heard of Tori, doesn't she sing that > song Elegent Widow?" Burkin > No-no, Tori is that Cornflake Girl.... you know the one? Heard she plays a mean flute. nyuk-nyuk-nyuk Hols ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:25:59 +1000 From: Holly Williamson Subject: RE: [oztori] Hang ten honey Nin-nin wrote: > God, have to agree about Sugar - wow wow wow. But, get this, when i got > venus, i had NEVER HEARD pele OR choirgirl. So my first hearing of Mr > Zebra > was the live one (and it's great) and ditto with Cruel. those little > bastards blew my mind! > Well, that fact in itself (i.e. having never heard pele or choirgirl prior to TVAB) blows my mind! And you're a Toz fan now!! yay! Hols ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:40:35 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: RE: [oztori] Hang ten honey Hello, my name is Nin-Nin (cute!), and I'm a toriphile. I first became a toriphile at the age of ten when a muso friend made me a tape of LE and UTP (more pink - which he then SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grumble) and i loved it. But then I grew up, stopped listening to parent music in favour of bubblegum pop, and when i was 14, became an alanis fan and re-discovered LE. After finishing school, and during through the worst period of my life (1999-2000 bout of depression etc) i went and bought venus. the rest, as they say, is history. (my fave is pele, then choirgirl). http://www.livejournal.com/~n26 http://www.epinions.com/user-nina26 > Nin-nin wrote: > Well, that fact in itself (i.e. having never heard pele or choirgirl >prior to TVAB) blows my mind! And you're a Toz fan now!! yay! > > Hols _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:44:33 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 - --- Nathan R wrote: > > To be frank, I only bought 3 albums released this > > year: > > > > Bjork - Vespertine > > Tori - SLG (x4) > > Ruby - Short-Staffed at the Gene Pool - --- Bevan Burkin wrote: > Me, me, me! > > Tori - Strange Little Girls > Bjork - Vespertine > Air - 1000 Legend > Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain SHAME on you two for not getting the new Lamb CD. SHAME. l'il dan np: gabriel by LAMB! ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:59:35 +1000 From: Holly Williamson Subject: RE: [oztori] Hang ten honey > Hello, my name is Nin-Nin (cute!), and I'm a toriphile. I first became a > toriphile at the age of ten when a muso friend made me a tape of LE and > UTP > (more pink - which he then SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grumble) and i loved it. > But then I grew up, stopped listening to parent music in favour of > bubblegum > pop, and when i was 14, became an alanis fan and re-discovered LE. After > finishing school, and during through the worst period of my life > (1999-2000 > bout of depression etc) i went and bought venus. the rest, as they say, is > > history. (my fave is pele, then choirgirl). > Ohhhh, ok Nin-nin, I was obviously mistaken! You have been a toriphile for much longer than I... I have been since 1996. You beat me. Wonderful! much love Hols xx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:29:17 -0800 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] women who rock just letting you alkl know theres a special edition of GuitarOne magazine just been released, it's called Women Who Rock: 100 Essential Women In Music. The WHOLE magazine is dedicated to female musicians. It's FANTASTIC. Included (first up, if only b/c it's alphabetical!) is Tori, then Laurie Anderson Fiona Apple India Arie Joan Armatrading B52s Babes in Toyland Erykah Badu Joan Baez The Bangles Jennifer Batten Pat Benetar Bikini Kill Bjork Jonatha Brooke Meredith Brooks Ruth Brown Kate Bush Karen Carpenter Exene Cervenka Tracy Chapman Cher Patsy Cline Shawn Colvin Sheryl Crow Shannon Curfman Destiny's Child Dido Ani DiFranco Dixie Chicks The Donnas Elastica Missy Elliot En Vogue Melissa Etheridge Aretha Franklin The Go-Gos Kim Gordon Macy Gray Emmylou Harris Debbie Harry PJ Harvey Juliana Hatfield Heart Lauryn Hill Chrissie Hynde Indigo Girls Wanda Jackson Joan Jett Rickie Lee Jones Janis Joplin Carol Kaye Carole King Kittie L7 Queen Latifah Cyndi Lauper Annie Lennox Mary Lou Lord Courtney Love Lunachicks Madonna Aimee Mann Shirley Manson Sarah McLachlan Joni Mitchell Alanis Morissette Stevie Nicks & Christine McVie Sinead O'Connor Yoko Ono Joan Osborne Liz Phair Suzi quatro Bonnie Raitt Linda Ronstadt The Shirelles Shonen Knife Jane Siberry Carly Simon Siouxsie Sioux Sleater-Kinney Grace slick Bessie Smith Patti Smith Jill Sobule Ronnie Spector Dusty Springfield gwen Stefani Susan Tedeschi Throwing Muses TLC Moe Tucker Tina Turner Wendy & Lisa Tina Weymouth Lucinda Williams Victoria Williams Wendy O Williams ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:34:52 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: [oztori] JJJ top 100 albums JJJ has a poll for the top albums of the year on their website. SLG is one of the options. Go out there and vote. :) http://triplej.abc.net.au/2001/albums/vote.htm /nm {who might have missed y'all posting about this earlier, behind in email yet again} ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:31:04 +1000 From: Simon Metcalf Subject: [oztori] Another Request for Threaded News! The email list seems to be getting quite popular now, perhaps it's because of the end of uni exams 'n' stuff. But anyway, I look at the huge digests and can't handle them, with topics going all over the place and people often including whole previous posts in their messages (sometimes several), so what ends up happening is that I just don't read any of it. I'm no expert on web-bulletin boards but surely we can figure something out that goes along with the oztori website, like a bulletin board and a web-chat off the oztori website. I'd be willing to help out in any way that I can but I've still got my thesis to finish. Simon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:14:26 +1000 From: "Double Serpent" Subject: [oztori] OT & Stuff Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:28, Bevan wrote >Speaking of voting - why is nobody voting for me? I'm >starting to feel *very* left out ;( I WAS left out *cheezy grin* Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:17:50 Darwin Clan wrote >Much to many people's amusement/amazement.... I got another speeding > fine >in the mail today!! Changed my mind. Just get off the bloody road!!! That has to be close to all your points gone by now hasn't it?!?! Pysco driver!!! Cath wrote >i started making a layout for the domain, but you guys can use it or >whatever. http://www.exit-75.com/oztori As a personal opinion, web sites that open multiple windows bug me (sound a familiar gripe, Zac???) I'm not very techically minded when it comes to web sites, but I know I like ones that are easy to operate and easy to read. Other than that, I thought the buttons were a little slow at operating throught my computer, keeping in mind this computer is a heap of shite. Ok besides though. Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:20:36 From: Holly to Nathan >I hope your day is fan-tabulous, and the Pidgeon of Lyrical >Correctness shits on your head. That was beautiful Holly!! Proud of ya girl!! ..... even though pigeon's not spelt right ...... DOESN'T MATTER !! the meaning and thought was there. YAY HOLLY!! You go girl!! ~Bindy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:46:18 +1000 From: "Becc" Subject: Re: [oztori] Hang ten honey Nina wrote: > Hello, my name is Nin-Nin (cute!), and I'm a toriphile. I first became a > toriphile at the age of ten when a muso friend made me a tape of LE and UTP > (more pink - which he then SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grumble) and i loved it. Oh my god... that just reminded me I had a dream last night that I was in this really dodgy second-hand CD store and I thought (as I usually do in second-hand CD stores), "Ohhh, there won't be any good Tori stuff there, but I'll have a look just in case." I was flipping half-heartedly through the A section, and hey - there was Y Kant Tori Read for $9 (yeah, in the 'A' section, I know). I flipped to the next CD and it was another rarity (something that someone on this list mentioned yesterday or the day before, and it was obviously being processed by my brain last night. I knew the title in my dream, but haven't a clue now). In fact, *every* CD I flipped was some hideously rare Tori thing for less than $10. And then I'm there getting excited and thinking, "Could they have mistakenly popped 'More Pink' in here too?" and I see this double CD - you know those big fat cases, which is funny cuz, well, I don't know for certain but 'More Pink' is a regular-looking CD case, isn't it? - and I hold my breath and reach for it and... lo and behold! 'More Pink'! For $21!! And you know what I did? I walked out of the store. *LOL* Well, to go and get some money, at least... but shit, like you'd walk out of a store that was selling rare Tozza CDs for cheap - you'd be clutching them all to your chest with one hand, on your mobile to a friend with the other: "Quick! I need money!! NOW!!" ~Beccneedshelp. :) - -- witnessed: www.barbaric-yawp.com/journal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Precious things nina riddel wrote: > love it, for the lyrics, mostly the "so you can make > me come it doesn't make > you jesus" bit. and the suspenseful intro. It's CUM baby. Nathan. . Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:55:25 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Hang ten honey Holly Williamson wrote: > Wow, you know, I keep hearing that a lot of people > don't actually > like Waitress live on TVAB - and once, I heard it > referred to as "9 minutes > of self-indulgent shit." I thought it clocked in at 10 minutes something. Oh but that's probably with long applause (god knows why) at end. > Hmm, I really really really love it! But funnily > enough, I don't > like the version on Under the Pink as much as the > live version! I don't like ANY version of "Waitress" (sic - God I hate how it somehow lost its "The" over the years). > Personally, I love the length of it, Size-queen! > the > 'space-jam' quality, the > 'hang ten, hang ten honey, I wanna go where she > goes' (and Nathan, if these > lyrics are incorrect then you can go bite yourself.) I thought it was "I'm GONNA go where she goes"? But I've only listened to the shit about 3 times all the way through (half of which was spent probably walking into another room in the house to get away from it).. so I would hardly call myself an 'authority' on this one.. although my 3 half-assed listens are probably more accurate than your 3000 :P (j/k.. love ya really Holz). > 'I belieeeve we lost somethang.... I thought it was "I believe in her something", but.. see above.. I don't listen to this. > I know she > believes in meeee.... ' ??? I don't recall ever hearing this line. > Waitress live is great. Oh, hang it, the entire > Still Orbiting side > of To Venus and Back blows my mind every time!!! I would have terminated that sentence at "blows" ;) > Yeah, well I agree. Dan G, do you think we could > all send photos to > you, EEK @ the thought of Dirty Ol Dan "looking" at our 'photos'! Nathan. . Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:17:26 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 - --- Nathan R wrote: DS> > l'il 'incompatant righter' dan > > More like "l'il 'incompatant [sic] speller' dan" ;) > > It's 'incompEtEnt'. A word which could never be > used > to describe myself :P uh. duh. that was the point. notice i spelled writer "righter" too??? BAH. l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos Blissful Bubbles of Poetry: http://learthquakes.proboards.com/ Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:24:16 +1000 From: Zac Ariel Subject: Re: [oztori] Another Request for Threaded News! Thursday, November 29, 2001, 2:31:04 PM, you wrote: SM> I'm no expert on web-bulletin boards but surely we can figure SM> something out that goes along with the oztori website, like a bulletin SM> board and a web-chat off the oztori website. yes, both these things would be fairly easy to do, but one has to ask, what's the point? bulletin boards do approximately the same thing that the mailing list is currently doing, so there is going to be a huge overlap, and frankly, i for one don't need yet another thing to check when i'm online. if you want a less painful way of reading oztori, i recommend reading the archives at www.smoe.org/lists/oztori. this is covering the same ground with the web chat facility. we already have an operational irc chatroom, why do we need another? i think that a facility to connect to the irc channel from the web wouldn't be such a bad idea, tho. just my 0.05, including rounding and gst. no matter who ends up taking over the website, maybe we should be running a thread on what we all want to see on it? zac ================================================== zac ariel - web junkie m: 0414 229 299 e: zac@comcen.com.au w: www.level21.net ================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:21:16 +1100 From: "Darwin Clan" Subject: [oztori] I can't believe it's not precious things! Hi : - ) I just went and checked out this vote thing.... hahahaha I think it's pretty funny. I'm not a selection! Hmmm.... how disappointing : - ) More on Precious Things.... It's a song, like Nayth, that I can listen to over and over and over again. When I first bought LE (my first Tori album), it was the first song to really grab me - and it leaped right out of the stereo and gave me a huge hug! Lyrically, it's amazing. Musically, it's brilliant. One of my all time fave songs for anything, really. ~Andrew~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:49:12 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Sch(hangin')tuff At 10:20 29/11/2001 +1000, nina riddel wrote: >>oztori's "worst >>driver" > >I identify as an atrocious driver. I got my license in April. I had an >accident in June. I can't believe they gave me a license and i refuse to >drive anywhere. > Re: speeding fines - I think I have two from the same street (Fred Schonell Drive) near uni, with in four days of one another - I think that is SOOOO not fair seeing as you don't know you got pinged the first time AND it's right near uni - how many uni-students have the cash to fill the fucking government's coffers? Probably to try an pay off Beaties' Folly Bridge (a la William Jolly Bridge) back in August - I haven't picked up the thingy from the post office yet (well I tried to day, but the bitch said there was nothing there - I lined up twice - then I got a third woman and she quite happily said - oh, if you haven't picked it up after a month, we send it back to where it was issued from. THE FUCKING BITCH I spoke to TWICE couldn't have told me that - beeyatch! >>It's probably the only song she can play live over and >>over and OVER and I'll never tire of (unlike the >>shitty 'Waitress' which I never liked in the first >>place). > >have to agree. i don't get why the waitress is so popular. i never really >liked it. Its a good song - but it's not the first one I'd want to hear live when she *ahem* tours here. I think its the "Bitch" word that probably makes all the 13 year-olds giggle and call out for the song. They don't know what FUCK means yet. > >website: you what we need, what we really really need? Photos. If you guys >are gonna take up 75% of my life (ha! you think i'm joking) i want to know >what you all look like. I have no photos of me... digital wise - and the last photo I had taken of me was back in 1998! (The only one for the year). I could draw a charactature! ;) A cartoon version of me! ;) Also about the website - are we going to have those (numerous) quiz questions put up in a way we can answer them... I have refrained from replying to them when they came around - cause I thought I'd do it when all the questions were compiled and put up on the website... cause it's easier to browse a webpage with everyone's details instead of reading e-mail after e-mail when one person just blends into another! I have a few more categories/questions Red or White? Favourite drop/type/bottle of wine? Favourite juice combo? Favourite Biscuit Beer? Favourite Beer (if you just HAD to) Spirits? Favourite spirit/cocktail/combo/mix OK, this is getting very food and alkyholi. ;) ohh ohh.. Favourite daily newspaper comic (mine is DEFINATELY Calvin and Hobbes!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:57:31 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] The Best Albums of 2001 At 11:55 29/11/2001 +1100, Bevan Burkin wrote: > --- Nathan R wrote: > >> To be frank, I only bought 3 albums released this >> year: >> >> Bjork - Vespertine >> Tori - SLG (x4) >> Ruby - Short-Staffed at the Gene Pool > >Me, me, me! > >Tori - Strange Little Girls >Bjork - Vespertine >Air - 1000 Legend >Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain > Has someone sent the info to Mike Why, the Dent Forums and rmta with the link to the top-ten albums page!?! give them a few fake place names to stick in. ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #275 ****************************