From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #216 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Saturday, October 27 2001 Volume 01 : Number 216 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. [Daniel G ] Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. ["Jasmina"] [oztori] repost We Built this City on Rock And Roll! [AndrewR ] [oztori] repost OT: LOTR and music [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] We Built this City on Rock And Roll! ["riot poofter" ] Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. [AndrewR <] [oztori] Net 50 [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. ["Nerida H] Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] We Built this City on Rock And Roll! [AndrewR ] [oztori] np (noun phrase) & the plastic population [Nathan R ] [oztori] Reality check [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Reality check ["Nerida Hooykaas" ] [oztori] Reality cheque [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] BAH [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] Reality check ["riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. >1)this is not my triumpant return-to-the group e-mail. >i just wanted to stick my oar in on this before >everyone else did. i'll write to triumphant >return-to-the-group e-mail later. duly noted. we await your triumphant return-to-the-group email. >2)tozza did not seem very keen on australia AT ALL >when i talked to her (i assume you guys all know i >talked to her? dan, did you post my review?). yes I did post the review... >she is definately, not so much getting old, but settling down >shall we say. her first concern was the feasability of >her family, something she didn't have to worry about >before. methinks sh won't want to be doing monumental >touring sprees any more... which makes sense and is fair enough. >-we need to >keep voting. yes. definitely. are yesterdays charts up yet? did anyone listen and see where we were? >-how about some sort of petition/letter to Warner? >Renee could help get it to the right place. she could pass it on to "susan", her contact, or ask "susan" who the right person is. >we could lobby for a single, point out the sucess of the album >and SLG, and hope for the best. a single would improve >the chances of tozza promoting the single, no? surely now that the US and UK are definitely releasing SLG as a single then that increases our chances, yes? also SLG is getting regular play on MusicMax (every time I turn it on, there it is!), and has lasted more than one night on rage (possibly due to our JJJ voting efforts). and I think this album has stayed in the aria charts more than FTCGH and Venus...surely this counts for something. >-we could make a concerted effort to each buy up all >the covers of SLG we were planning on, but haven't got >around to, to give the album a brief boost and stir >intrest (possibly in combination w/ the Warner >petition/Tori petition/JJJ campaign). good idea...although sadly most of us are strapped-for-cash students. also someone who knows about how the charts work needs to let us know (probably again) whether our buying another three copies will help at all, and from which stores we ought to buy from. >-We could ring up super request all the time, request >other Tori singles from the past, to stir up people's >memories. if any of us got on, we could plug oztori. Also, visit Channel[v] and MusicMax request pages regularly. Channel[v] also takes email, letter and fax requests too and A LOT of them get read out without necessarily getting played. Heres an idea - one day in the coming few weeks we need to ALL email/fax/phone Channel[v] and ALL request the SAME tori song...maybe SLG, We can talk about it. If we do, they should put it on...maybe it'll make "most requested" LOL! we can also petition the Dent forums to do this. >4)it will be very expensive, and i think it's >unrealistic to offer to pay. but, we could pledge time >and resources to fundraising. for example, offer to >raise money to found an Aussie RAINN contingent. or >offer to get behind an aussie charity of tori's >choice, fundraising at the shows she played, >publicising the charity in conjunction with her, etc. when i said "offer to pay" i was thinking what they do with sci-fi convention guests - pay for their airfares and accomodation. obviously tori + entourage is out of the question, but i agree pledging time/resources/$$$ to RAINN/RAINN related charities would help. Also if we perhaps suggested having her as "guest of honour" at our next fundraiser (obviously not for her birthday this time, although that would be nice if she did). we need to nut out exactly how to put it to her. NATHAN SAID: "BUT.. I think the "pwease come down here cuz we all miss you so vewwy much" approach isn't going to work." I agree...I just said that...because...whatever. He also said: "Yeah it's a long flight for her, but it's annoying that she never tours down here... Reading comments like Mikewhy on the Dent: ""I have enjoyed this tour more than any other tour Tori has done, and it sad that St. Louis will be my last show." frankly piss me off! Had I known, my 'last show' of seeing Tori was fucking SEVEN years ago" He said that about the past two tours (Plugged + Venus) and actually after plugged I wrote a pretty scathing email to him about the way he was waffling on about "greatest show ever" and "so proud to be there when she played X" and such and how we never get to see her at all. I never got a reply... Oh well I'd better go now...Thinking about Mikewhy and his wonderfully amazing life changing concert experiences every second night have got me depressed. xoxo Dan ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 05:44:24 +1000 From: "Jasmina" Subject: Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. DS>she is definately, not so much getting old, but settling down shall we say. her first concern was the DS>feasability of her family, something she didn't have to worry about before. methinks sh won't want to be DS>doing monumental touring sprees any more... this is understandable, why shouldn't she settle down? but then why shouldn't she come down here for a little show, huh? just one little show....this is all we beg for :) DS>3)with that said, i think a mini-tour IS feasible. DS>first off, we need to get behind it. yes we do need to get behind it, and with mos tof us getting closer to holidays i think it seems a pretty feasible idea that we could get something done as a group, dont ya just think? eh? DS>-SLG is doing remarkably well on JJJ, and we need to keep it there. despite what nayth might think, a few DS>rabid fans are NOT the only thing that is placing tori on the net 50 - there simply aren't enough of us. BUT! DS>we are helping, and we are nudging her up the charts, and therefore up the airplay lists as well. we need to DS>keep voting. thankyou for pointing this out, but if ppl like nath voted then think what the position could be? hmmm.... DS>-how about some sort of petition/letter to Warner? Renee could help get it to the right place. we could DS>lobby for a single, point out the sucess of the albumand SLG, and hope for the best. a single would DS>improve the chances of tozza promoting the single, no? a petition could help, but my personal opinion of petitions is that they don't work, but then if u dont try u never know do u? DS>-We could ring up super request all the time, request other Tori singles from the past, to stir up people's DS>memories. if any of us got on, we could plug oztori. i like this idea..i can give this a shot, i'm a persistant ringer too, so i just keep dialling till i get what i want, so i'll normally get thru if i want to....for all u ppl, the JJJ number is 1800 055 536 or if you'd rather remember 1800 0 JJJ FM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:05:13 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] repost We Built this City on Rock And Roll! Thankyou Nayth - I had set my clock back to run a trial program ;o) Reposting from this Century: *this eighties flashback was brought to you by the new album by the single by Yazz - The Only Way is Up* Kaboodle. Anyone remember? Oh, I got some new videos the otherday - they were on sale! The Labyrinth! and The Dark Crystal! Two eighties movies staples - the last time I saw The Dark Crystal was 1983! I haven't watched them yet... It'll be great! Wish that they had "The Secret of NIMH", "Tron" and "The Never-Ending Story"! np: Tori Amos "Siren" how cool is this song! Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:06:11 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: repost Re: [oztori] Me english good. Thankyou Nayth - I had set my clock back to run a trial program ;o) Reposting from this Century: At 13:13 27/10/2001 +1000, She who is called Michelle wrote: >Mr R said: >> > NR>its not doing you're use of the english >> > NR>langage any favor's. >> > > >Then countered: >when in fact there are FOUR mistakes (count >>'em) in that sentence... all made *deliberately*! > >No.1- 'its' should be 'it's'. >No.2- 'you're' should be 'your' >No.3- 'langage' should be 'language' >No.4- 'favor's' should be 'favors'. > > shouldn't it be: favour? >Do I win a kewpie doll on a stick? > >Michelle > >Visit Michelle's Lounge! >http://www.geocities.com/tamantha >Me lose brain? Uh oh! > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:06:40 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] repost OT: LOTR and music Thankyou Nayth - I had set my clock back to run a trial program ;o) Reposting from this Century: Some of you might have known that Enya is doing some tracks for the Lord of the Rings - which I am stoked about. Also there is this from theonering.net - ----------------------------- 10-26-01 Latest News More on Elizabeth Frasier Xoanon @ 7:22 pm EST From: Rory I don't know if you can use this information, but I checked the soundtrack wesite and saw that, in addition to Hoawrd Shore and Enya, Elizabeth Frasier was credited on the page. She is the vocalist for a group call Cocteau Twins, and has a very distinctive vocal style, so if any site readers are familiar with her work, they know that the sound she goes for is very ethereal. - ----------------------------- Great suff eh? I've always thought Enya would be perfect for something involved with the lord of the rings. Liz Frasier would be perfect too! Now we just need Loreena McKennitt and Tori can be a red-haired elven Lady! ;o) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:13:34 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] We Built this City on Rock And Roll! >Oh, I got some new videos the otherday - they were on sale! The Labyrinth! >and The Dark Crystal! Two eighties movies staples - the last time I saw The >Dark Crystal was 1983! I haven't watched them yet... It'll be great! Wish >that they had "The Secret of NIMH", "Tron" and "The Never-Ending Story"! wow. how much? those are hard videos to get hold of usually. i recently got the care bear movie, the garbage pail kids movie and plan 9 from outer space for 3.33 each :) anyone remember an animated film called "flight of the dragons"? now *that* i would love to get hold of np: yazz "stand up for your love rights" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "i sometimes run and chase the moon, i just can" - - toni childs _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:14:26 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: LOTR and music At 15:57 27/10/2001 +1000, Daniel G wrote: >Just a note...my descriptions may contain a bit of a spoiler if you've been >avoiding reading about how they're altering slightly the characters of >Aragorn and Arwen. But if you know the full title to the Enya song then >don't worry about it. > >>Great suff eh? I've always thought Enya would be perfect for something >>involved with the lord of the rings. Liz Frasier would be perfect too! Now >>we just need Loreena McKennitt and Tori can be a red-haired elven Lady! ;o) > >As far as I know Enya is only doing the one song, the love theme for Arwen >and Aragorn. Which is a shame I would've like to have her do more. Lis >Fraser doing vox is tops - especially around Lothlorien/Elvish themes. >Loreena would be cool...but I think rather than these artists being "these >artists" it'd be great if they actually SCORED the film for orchestra, &c >(like Bjork on "Overture" and "A New World" for Selmasongs/Dancer) as well >as performed and sang...we'll just have to wait and see!!! >xoxo >Dan ;) >PS - I think the soundtrack is being released in limited edition set too, >but I can't recall the details... > Enya is also doing another track (two in total) one will be a 'single' presumably with a video presumably that is called (goes and checks) Yes... it is called "May It Be" Enya will be singing in Elvish (Sindarin - I'm not too sure about Quenyan) - and possibly even Dwarven (Khazad) Dwarven by Enya would sound cool - especially if you've heard her tracks in Latin (the old language not the Latin American term) like Cursum Perficio off Watermark, Ebudae (which is actually chanting not in Latin) Pax Deorum off The Memory of Trees and *Tempus Vernum* off the latest "A Day Without Rain"! Howard Shore is actually the composer who is writing the score to the film. This is a post made to alt.music.enya which was taken in part from MTVnews.com - ----------- Hey everyone ... taken from MTVNews.com ... Enya will be singing a new language - Sindarin - for "Aniron".... read up ... ;) She said she finds inspiration for her melodies in her world travels and by isolating herself from any distractions, including her success. She just finished work on two songs for the soundtrack to "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring," which she sings in Sindarin, one of the fictional languages of author J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy world (see "Enya - Not Led Zeppelin - Leads 'Lord of the Rings' Soundtrack"). "It's so beautiful to sing in a language that no one's ever heard, to do something that no one's ever done before," she said of "Aniron (Theme for Aragorn and Arwen)," a love song written for a romantic scene between an elf played by Liv Tyler and a man played by Viggo Mortensen. Because she went to New Zealand to work on the film soundtrack almost immediately after a tour for A Day Without Rain last fall, Enya said she's taking a break from recording for a while. ... john. - ----------- AndrewR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:19:16 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. At 16:03 27/10/2001 +1000, Daniel G wrote: >What do people think? I don't think Tori will be making any long flights cause of Bubby-Natashya. What we SHOULD convince her of doing is sell one of her houses (prollay the Ireland one - cause we only hear her in Cornwall and The US) and tell her to buy up down here... then during the Northern Hemisphere Winters, she can come down here and 'chill' out! Then Tash'll have a baby-sitter - or at least one long flight with a long interval and she can hang-out down here with us. Maybe getting inspiration from like the Tori-Red dirt or the Trees or the water or somethin' >xoxo >Dan ;) > Andrew|` ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:34:19 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Net 50 go vote quickly - it's on tonight triplej.abc.net.au/net50 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:37:26 +1000 From: "Nerida Hooykaas" Subject: Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. Dan G asked: > What do people think? > Probably a load of tosh, but still... > xoxo > Dan ;) ok, my personal opinion is that it wouldn't work...its a good idea in theory...but really, if Tori wanted to come to Australia...like, REALLY wanted to come...I believe she would have done so already. I don't care about her record company 'n' what not....if she really wanted to.....she woulda been here....I really don't believe she gives two shits about coming here. Also, how many times have we tried to do something to get her to come here?? I gave her, oh...ten cards I believe....which I thought was a pretty poor effort from the list at the time....and I believe there has previously been a petition of some sort ages ago on the list (please correct me if I'm wrong...just what I heard..this was before I was a member).... =P Then there is also Lil Dan saying she didn't seem very interested at all to add to everything else...it just doesn't seem likely, especially now she has a family, that this would work. I reckon she'll just continue to do lil tours in America..and perhaps the UK seein' as she lives over there...'n' that's it..that's just the feeling I get anyhow. So what I'm going to do, is start a Tori Fund and save some money to go see her on her next tour....provided I receive a better income soon of course....hehe. =P Jas said: "yes we do need to get behind it, and with mos tof us getting closer to holidays i think it seems a pretty feasible idea that we could get something done as a group, dont ya just think? eh?" well, that'd be nice.....but...we can't even put together a simple meet sometimes..or a t-shirt..or even Net50 half of the time....call me cynical...but the organisational abilities of this list frankly sucks a lot of the time..my god I just agreed with Dan H =P as for the MikeWhy thing....yeah he gets to see lots of shows....and yeah I used to get jealous...but really, where is that gonna get anyone? I personally would rather think of him as a very lucky man with connections who gets to see Tori HEAPS...and he has THE best darn Tori site on the internet....he deserves to see Tori a squillion times with all the work he puts into the Dent =P anyways just my two cents.....in short, I don't think it'll work. Love Neri =8O) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. Daniel G wrote: (quoting Dan S/li'l dan along the way): > >2)tozza did not seem very keen on australia AT ALL > >when i talked to her (i assume you guys all know i > >talked to her? dan, did you post my review?). > > yes I did post the review... > > >she is definately, not so much getting old, but > settling down > >shall we say. her first concern was the feasability > of > >her family, something she didn't have to worry > about > >before. methinks sh won't want to be doing > monumental > >touring sprees any more... > > which makes sense and is fair enough. The thing is though.. yeah Australia is a fair ole hike for Ms. Amos.. BUT.. if she's making the effort to tour the UK & Europe this time around.. WHY NOT stop by Australia on the way? ;) I really think the only hope we'll have of getting her here is to convince her to come and *live* here ;) Maybe stocking her up with tour brochures/etc. & suggested places to live would be a better idea than petitions/etc. > surely now that the US and UK are definitely > releasing SLG as a single I'm taking the "I'll believe it when I see it" approach, given all the hoo-hah over Tori's single releases since Raspberry Swirl. > and I think > this album has stayed in the aria charts more than > FTCGH and Venus...surely > this counts for something. They're reasonably equal: FTCH: 8-22-31-38-49 TVAB: 6-15-34-38 SLG (so far): 7-15-20-30-47 SLG has perhaps slightly better chart positions.. but these things can vary depending on the time of year something is released & what other competition is around at the time... so aren't necessarily indicative. > >-we could make a concerted effort to each buy up > all > >the covers of SLG we were planning on, but haven't > got > >around to, to give the album a brief boost and stir > >intrest (possibly in combination w/ the Warner > >petition/Tori petition/JJJ campaign). > > good idea...although sadly most of us are > strapped-for-cash students. also > someone who knows about how the charts work needs to > let us know (probably > again) whether our buying another three copies will > help at all, and from > which stores we ought to buy from. I say it probably won't make a whole lot of impact. A lot of 'more casual' Tori fans would have bought the album when it first came out, popping it up the charts. But, as far as which stores to buy from.. I think www.aria.com lists ARIA chart stores... But make sure you DON'T buy from Sanity, because they aren't linked up to the chart thang. > when i said "offer to pay" i was thinking what they > do with sci-fi > convention guests - pay for their airfares and > accomodation. obviously tori > + entourage is out of the question, lol.. maybe we should put in for combined tattslotto ticket and win it.. n' spend the $ on getting Tori here ;) > He said that about the past two tours (Plugged + > Venus) > and actually after plugged I wrote a pretty scathing > email > to him about the way he was waffling on about > "greatest show ever" > and "so proud to be there when she played X" and > such > and how we never get to see her at all. I never got > a reply... Hehehe.. I think I got 2-3 replies from Mikewhy about something circa '98... wow.. I feel privileged.. 'tho I would HATE to imagine his inbox. Nathan. . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] and idea...I'll let you decide on its brilliance. AndrewR wrote: > I don't think Tori will be making any long flights > cause of Bubby-Natashya. > What we SHOULD convince her of doing is sell one of > her houses (prollay the > Ireland one - cause we only hear her in Cornwall and > The US) and tell her > to buy up down here... then during the Northern > Hemisphere Winters, she can > come down here and 'chill' out! Then Tash'll have a > baby-sitter - or at > least one long flight with a long interval and she > can hang-out down here > with us. Maybe getting inspiration from like the > Tori-Red dirt or the Trees > or the water or somethin' You know how Tori specifically went to Taos (?) or somewhere in the desert to record UTP.. and then to the church in Ireland to record BFP.. well.. I think we need to inspire her to go on another 'concept' recording journey, and come to Australia for the inspiration... Picture a cross between Kate Bush's "The Dreaming" (Aboriginal themes) with Men At Work's "Down Under" :P Nathan. jfp (just finished playing): Tori's cover of the Beatles "Here, There, Everywhere" . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:51:49 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] We Built this City on Rock And Roll! At 18:12 27/10/2001 +1000, riot poofter wrote: > >>Oh, I got some new videos the otherday - they were on sale! The Labyrinth! >>and The Dark Crystal! Two eighties movies staples - the last time I saw The >>Dark Crystal was 1983! I haven't watched them yet... It'll be great! Wish >>that they had "The Secret of NIMH", "Tron" and "The Never-Ending Story"! > >wow. how much? those are hard videos to get hold of usually. i recently got >the care bear movie, the garbage pail kids movie and plan 9 from outer space >for 3.33 each :) They were 9.95 (I also got Escape from New York) np: Shakespears Sister "Hello (Turn Your Radio On) > >anyone remember an animated film called "flight of the dragons"? >now *that* i would love to get hold of > >np: yazz "stand up for your love rights" >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >"i sometimes run and chase the moon, i just can" >- toni childs > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] and you know you're gonna lie (about wanting to tour Australia) to you in your own way Nerida Hooykaas wrote: > ok, my personal opinion is that it wouldn't > work...its a good idea in > theory...but really, if Tori wanted to come to > Australia...like, REALLY > wanted to come...I believe she would have done so > already. I don't care > about her record company 'n' what not....if she > really wanted to.....she > woulda been here....I really don't believe she gives > two shits about coming > here. I agree. I mean, she came here TWICE in 92 - once for promo visit, one for tour... and then in 94... She wasn't selling *significantly* more records here then either - if anything, she probably had a smaller fan-base. She toured Iceland and Japan then as well.. Now surely she isn't selling truckloads in either place? God - she goes to Berlin and places where English isn't even the main language! I think it's all to do with the distance. Damn Australia for being so far away! hehehe. It does annoy me though how she has said, eg. on the J-files interview with Dick(head) Kingsmill, "I would love to come to Australia". What a lie. Naf . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] BAH Neri: > anyways just my two cents.....in short, I don't > think it'll work. bah! cynic! at the very least, i think we could: - -consistently vote for SLG on the net 50. - -pick a week for EVERYONE to vote and plug another tori song that is relatively well-know: CALS, Cornflake or Spark. we can all vote for it, request it, etc. and get all the denters involved. i don't care how unlikely it is, frankly: a prolonged attack on the charts WILL raise an eyebrow or two, maybe tozza's. imagine JJJ have TWO tori songs in the charts in one week! it would prompt increased airplay, a single, increased exposure on rage... - -all decide a week to buy SLG, if we are planning on getting any more covers. - -secure a single release. i think we COULD do that. if we keep the heat on for long enough, it'll work. more people will know tori, more people will buy tori. i made an impression on her in that i spoke to her for a long time at the M+G and she DID listen to what i was saying. if we can show her there's a following here, not just a few rabid fans, then it could help. as for the charity idea, i think it's a definate thing to explore. for example, we could all contribute a few tozza goods to auction on ebay. or we could rally round a local cause, and make it the STrange Little Campaign: offer our services to a charity to collect money on the street, handing out SLG flyers at the same time. we'd get media coverage for that, definately. i'm sure someone will point out soon, "why bother?" and i think the answer to that is: because we can. seeing tori is an absolutely earth-shattering experience, and if we can do it AND raise money and tozza-awareness along the way, i say go for it. l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos http://thedent.com/rainn.html ____________________________ Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] np (noun phrase) & the plastic population AndrewR wrote: > np: Shakespears Sister "Hello (Turn Your Radio On) *screams* Roozi wrote: > np: yazz "stand up for your love rights" hahaha.. Yazz was the first CD I got... I still think she has a nice voice.. not too sure about the hair or the bike shorts though. Nathan. . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:16:05 +1000 From: "Nerida Hooykaas" Subject: Re: [oztori] BAH Hi! Lil Dan said: > bah! cynic! at the very least, i think we could: yay! i got called a cynic =P > -consistently vote for SLG on the net 50. > -pick a week for EVERYONE to vote and plug another > tori song that is relatively well-know: CALS, > Cornflake or Spark. we can all vote for it, request > it, etc. and get all the denters involved. haha good luck....like most of the denters would give a shit? have u participated in any discussions on there? lol =P I just don't think the denters would care..half of them are American for one....and would they really care if she isn't touring here? I think not. i don't > care how unlikely it is, frankly: a prolonged attack > on the charts WILL raise an eyebrow or two, maybe > tozza's. imagine JJJ have TWO tori songs in the charts > in one week! it would prompt increased airplay, a > single, increased exposure on rage... a single? how would this get a single? please explain.....i'm obviously missing something? I don't get how increased airplay and exposure on rage would get us a single? Isn't that up to the record company? and frankly, atlantic sucks...I doubt they would release one here..it's already been decided that one isn't going to be released for SLG =P >all decide a week to buy SLG, if we are planning on >getting any more covers. I'm not planning on buying another one thats for sure...i can barely afford to eat, let alone buy another SLG cover. >secure a single release. i think we COULD do that. ok I don't get this one either...how are 'we' going to secure a single release? enlighten me cause I really don't understand (i'm not having a jab here, I am honestly wanting to know how?) >we keep the heat on for long enough, it'll work. > more people will know tori, more people will buy tori. > i made an impression on her in that i spoke to her for > a long time at the M+G and she DID listen to what i > was saying. if we can show her there's a following > here, not just a few rabid fans, then it could help. as I said, we HAVE tried to do that already....and I thought you said she seemed uninterested in Australia when you spoke to her? and I suppose that increased airplay MIGHT get more people to buy her music....but, as the woman says herself: "I'm not a french fry. I'm an oyster". > as for the charity idea, i think it's a definate thing > to explore. for example, we could all contribute a few > tozza goods to auction on ebay. or we could rally > round a local cause, and make it the STrange Little > Campaign: offer our services to a charity to collect > money on the street, handing out SLG flyers at the > same time. we'd get media coverage for that, > definately. hmm ya reckon this would work? it sounds like an ok idea, but is it really that feasible..would charities go for this? anyways, i still dunno about this =P Love Neri =8O) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:27:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Reality check Dan Stapleton wrote: > bah! cynic! at the very least, i think we could: > > -consistently vote for SLG on the net 50. Reality is that her record company speak in $$. It doesn't matter if she was #1 on that for 20 weeks. It might mean something if her album was #1 for 20 weeks.. but even then.. it would still be up to Tori to be assed to come here. > -pick a week for EVERYONE to vote and plug another > tori song that is relatively well-know: CALS, > Cornflake or Spark. we can all vote for it, request > it, etc. and get all the denters involved. i don't > care how unlikely it is, frankly: a prolonged attack > on the charts WILL raise an eyebrow or two, maybe > tozza's. imagine JJJ have TWO tori songs in the > charts > in one week! it would prompt increased airplay, a > single, increased exposure on rage... Reality is that Tori does not appeal to the 'masses'. She said herself she's anchovies, not potato chips. > -all decide a week to buy SLG, if we are planning on > getting any more covers. Reality is that nobody is going to spend $80-90 to buy 3 additional copies of a CD they already have. > -secure a single release. i think we COULD do that. Reality is that Warner are shit (hi Renee) when it comes to single releases for Tori... They sooooo can't get their shit together - look at the UK Raspberry Swirl (non)-release and the perpetually-delayed Strange Little Girl single. And some think oztori's organising ability sucks? ;) > if we keep the heat on for long enough, it'll work. > more people will know tori, more people will buy > tori. Reality - if Tori was ever gonna 'make it big', she would have done so by now. > i made an impression on her in that i spoke to her > for > a long time at the M+G and she DID listen to what i > was saying. Reality - she was probably looking at you thinking, "I wouldn't mind a piece of that ass", and not actually listening to what you were saying ;) > i'm sure someone will point out soon, "why bother?" Reality - I was just about to ;) > So then I thought I'd make some plans > But fire thought she'd really rather be water > instead. > > -Tori Amos Hehe... "So then I thought I'd make some Oz tour plans But then I thought, 'do I really want to travel o'er that much water?' instead" - - Touri Lame-Oz Nathan. . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:35:05 +1000 From: "Nerida Hooykaas" Subject: Re: [oztori] Reality check ok now I'm scared....i'm sounding WAY too much like Nathan =P OMG....god forbid... I only wrote one line...I think with all that's been said 'n' done, everyone is over this one-line thing now yes? and yes Dan H, that includes moi =) ........and it really isn't as excessive as it used to be anyway =P Neri =8O) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan R To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: [oztori] Reality check > Dan Stapleton wrote: > > > bah! cynic! at the very least, i think we could: > > > > -consistently vote for SLG on the net 50. > > Reality is that her record company speak in $$. It > doesn't matter if she was #1 on that for 20 weeks. It > might mean something if her album was #1 for 20 > weeks.. but even then.. it would still be up to Tori > to be assed to come here. > > > > -pick a week for EVERYONE to vote and plug another > > tori song that is relatively well-know: CALS, > > Cornflake or Spark. we can all vote for it, request > > it, etc. and get all the denters involved. i don't > > care how unlikely it is, frankly: a prolonged attack > > on the charts WILL raise an eyebrow or two, maybe > > tozza's. imagine JJJ have TWO tori songs in the > > charts > > in one week! it would prompt increased airplay, a > > single, increased exposure on rage... > > Reality is that Tori does not appeal to the 'masses'. > She said herself she's anchovies, not potato chips. > > > > -all decide a week to buy SLG, if we are planning on > > getting any more covers. > > Reality is that nobody is going to spend $80-90 to buy > 3 additional copies of a CD they already have. > > > > -secure a single release. i think we COULD do that. > > Reality is that Warner are shit (hi Renee) when it > comes to single releases for Tori... They sooooo can't > get their shit together - look at the UK Raspberry > Swirl (non)-release and the perpetually-delayed > Strange Little Girl single. And some think oztori's > organising ability sucks? ;) > > > > if we keep the heat on for long enough, it'll work. > > more people will know tori, more people will buy > > tori. > > Reality - if Tori was ever gonna 'make it big', she > would have done so by now. > > > > i made an impression on her in that i spoke to her > > for > > a long time at the M+G and she DID listen to what i > > was saying. > > Reality - she was probably looking at you thinking, "I > wouldn't mind a piece of that ass", and not actually > listening to what you were saying ;) > > > > i'm sure someone will point out soon, "why bother?" > > Reality - I was just about to ;) > > > > So then I thought I'd make some plans > > But fire thought she'd really rather be water > > instead. > > > > -Tori Amos > > Hehe... > > "So then I thought I'd make some Oz tour plans > But then I thought, 'do I really want to travel o'er > that much water?' instead" > > - Touri Lame-Oz > > > Nathan. > > . > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 03:34:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Reality cheque Nerida Hooykaas wrote: > ok now I'm scared....i'm sounding WAY too much like > Nathan =P "you can suck anything, but you know you wanna be me" ;) > OMG....god forbid... I only wrote one line...I think > with all that's been > said 'n' done, everyone is over this one-line thing > now yes? Nerida, dear... You could have fucking learnt to DELETE the e-mail that you are replying to by now! Grrrrrrrrrrr... It doesn't take much effort.. and it's so pointless to have it attached at the bottom! Nathan. . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:29:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] BAH - --- Nerida Hooykaas wrote: > haha good luck....like most of the denters would > give a shit? some might. it's worth one lousy post, methinks. > a single? how would this get a single? please > explain.....i'm obviously > missing something? I don't get how increased airplay > and exposure on rage > would get us a single? increased airplay = increased popularity = more people willing to buy a single = $$$ for record company = single release. it's all about the money, m'dear ;) the cold fact is, if tozza does well enough on the radio, they'd be idiots not to release a single. and good radio exposure leads to increased sales, which all helps in showing people we care about tori. i realise i'm starting to sound sad here, lol, but i honestly think it's worth a shot. i mean, hearing SLG on JJJ is kick ass, so 2 seconds filling in a survey is fine by me. even if that's ALL we get, it'd still be cool. l'il dan ===== So then I thought I'd make some plans But fire thought she'd really rather be water instead. - -Tori Amos http://thedent.com/rainn.html ____________________________ Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:31:03 +1000 From: "riot poofter" Subject: Re: [oztori] Reality check just to be different to everyone else on here, i'm going to totally agree with nathan lets just stop over-estimating our ability to influence whether or not tor tours :) > >Reality is that her record company speak in $$. It >doesn't matter if she was #1 on that for 20 weeks. It >might mean something if her album was #1 for 20 >weeks.. but even then.. it would still be up to Tori >to be assed to come here. ok, well if she did go to number one for 20 weeks she would almost certainly tour here, cause then she would probly be able to fill the olympic stadium and other huge venues and thus make lots of money but it ain't gonna happen. i very much doubt that slg will spend even one more week in the top 50 in australia *ever* > > tozza's. imagine JJJ have TWO tori songs in the > > charts > > in one week! it would prompt increased airplay, a > > single, increased exposure on rage... i think you would be surprised at how little it would impact, even oin teh unlikely event that oztori people voted enough to get 2 songs in teh net 50 (and as if the net 50 is a big deal... the record company would probly prefer one play on a commercial network to being number one on net 50!) > > -all decide a week to buy SLG, if we are planning on > > getting any more covers. > >Reality is that nobody is going to spend $80-90 to buy >3 additional copies of a CD they already have. > at most this would make the album number 56 instead of 57 next week... it takes thousands of sales to move up in the charts... and frankly i haven't got 18 bucks to spend ona second cover (i thought the whole multiple covers thing was a lame exploiattion of fans to begin with) > > -secure a single release. i think we COULD do that. wrong again. tori just doesnt sell singles here in any quantity. it just isn't worth the recoird companies time or effort or moolah, especially now the album is almost out of the charts. unless we pushed for a 97 b'n'c sing;le (the only song which i reckon could warrant any real attention) maybe > > if we keep the heat on for long enough, it'll work. > > more people will know tori, more people will buy > > tori. um, we all do this alreday right? how many *more* people can i try to get into tori on a daily basis? its just not gonna woprk unless w eall quit our jobs and school/uni to become full time missionaries for tori > > i made an impression on her in that i spoke to her > > for > > a long time at the M+G and she DID listen to what i > > was saying. > >Reality - she was probably looking at you thinking, "I >wouldn't mind a piece of that ass", and not actually >listening to what you were saying ;) hahahahahahahaha or she was totally drug fucked and thought u were lucifer inviting her for tea :) roozi ps: sorry again nathan i have replied to you first by accident...why *cvan't* i just hit reply and send to list lol _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #216 ****************************