From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #162 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Wednesday, September 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 162 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] Micallef and SLG ["Nilay ." ] [oztori] OT: Nada surf [Nathan R ] [oztori] confessions of a choirboy [Nathan R ] [oztori] And it's theft, theft, theft.... [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] OT sorta kinda [Nathan R ] [oztori] "I don't play for races or religions, I'm into charities" [Natha] [oztori] It runs in the family [Nathan R ] [oztori] hey big spender [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] shopping dilemmas [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] twats and kumquats ["Dylan Plant" ] [oztori] Adam Spencer's word of the day... [riot@senet.com.au] Re: [oztori] shopping dilemmas [=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= ] [oztori] letterman ["Rachael..." ] [oztori] Big Boom ["David McGahan" ] Re: [oztori] Big Boom [=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= ] [oztori] SLG ad in Sydney street press ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] letterman ["Lavenda" ] [oztori] touched for the very first time... ["nina riddel" ] [oztori] Really Vague Thoughts - Volume One ["David McGahan" Subject: [oztori] Micallef and SLG [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] >Reply-To: > "David McGahan" "OzTori Mailing List" RE: [oztori] Bitch ReplyDate: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:22:32 +1000 > >> Oh so Dave McGahan is not your "real" name? Devious >> thang you are! > >I'm sure I put that in my intromail... >("Intromail"... erk... sounds like some sort of cheap spam dating service) >Anyway, my real name is Brian. So you're a Micallef fan? eexcellent :) You may understand the sillyness of this then : For Xmas one year, my friend made little macaroni 'as aren't these' as gifts for all of us....'as aren't these' being the antelopes David McGahan did a 'documentary' about.... And as for SLG, I *completely* forgot!!! Naughty me! I so thought that September 17th was still ages away!!!!!! But alas, I have no money at this point so I will wait until i next get paid..... Nilay... Visit my site at www.envy.nu/torisgirl/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ ANNEXIETY INTERNET SOLUTIONS - http://www.annexiety.com HOSTING, CGI SCRIPTS, WEBDESIGN AND FREE EMAIL! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] OT: Nada surf Just wanted to say that I remember LOVING that Nada Surf "Popular" song back in '96... Reminds me of when I used to deliberately sleep-in and be late for school in Year 12.. It was always played on JJJ as my alarm clock went off. Although I ashamedly admit that I completely FORGOT about that song for years until someone mentioned it here the other day. "must go download it, must go download it" Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:01:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] confessions of a choirboy Daniel Hirning wrote: > of course it was a personal email - I've found out > all juicy tidbits > of information about your secret double > transvestite life from that > email :) What do you mean SECRET? I thought everybody already knew that I get my kicks from wearing fishnets and stilletto's (sp?)... just like you get yours from masturbating in women's undies. Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] And it's theft, theft, theft.... Daniel Hirning wrote: > HA? - the vocals on this CD are her worst yet... > she doesn't seem to > be putting any effort into them at all HEY! Stop stealing lines from my 'personal' (sic) e-mails to you! Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] twats and kumquats Stephen "give me moore, give me moore, give me moore" (from hotel) Moore wrote: > NR: Call me a fucking cynical twat (lol, I'd > probaly enjoy > it if you did)... > Me: I love the sound of the word "twat". I also love the sound of the word 'twat'!!! TWAT TWAT TWAT! I also like the sound of 'kumquat' - it sounds awfully 'rude' IMHO ;) > I also > like "mut" (where the u is > long, as in put). Actually, 'u' in 'put' is a short vowel. > I'm Not In Love > was awesome to hear from > it > he female perspective. Fist time I've really > noticed the lyrics. While I don't agree that Tori's version is "awesome", it is also the first time I've ever noticed the lyrics to that song as well. > I also > like I Don't like Mondays, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, > and Real Men. Listening > to Real Men LMAO when I heard "man makes a gun, man > goes to war, man can > kill, and man can drink, and man can take a whore". > Brutally honest. Yeah, 'tis kinda funny how Tori sings that. Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:12:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT sorta kinda li wrote: > > Me: I love the sound of the word "twat". I also > like "mut" (where the u > is > > long, as in put). So much more raw and powerful > than the almost > seemingly > > polite and benign in comparison "pussy". > > Are you a misogynist or what?? I think they're some > of the most degrading > words around. More so than cunt, anyway. And no guy > has the right to use > the word "cunt", I've decided. Its too personal. I don't like the use of 'pussy' a hole lot. I say, opt for twat instead. Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] "I don't play for races or religions, I'm into charities" Justa Boi wrote: > Actually one of the first thoughts I had whilst > watching the tv > coverage was "someone should write a song about > this". Not necessarily > a charity record as such, but just something to play > on the emotion > and the fact that it happened. Maybe something like > "I Don't Like > Mondays" then 20 years* later Tori might cover from > a female (perhaps > even twins') perspective. I agree totally. I think such a record could be really GOOD and effective as a fitting 'tribute'.. Not some quick 5 minute "Let's Put a Band-Aid on the World (And Save the Children)" pile of junk. You've just said what I was meaning to say.. but without the cynicism and dramatisation. So.. um.. li, am I back on your Xmas list yet? Although.. one really good argument I read once against charity records is... Is Elton John's "Candle in the Wind '97" the biggest selling single ever because everyone thought it was THE BEST song they've ever heard and all went out to buy it? No. The biggest selling record should be a song that is genuinely liked by the most amount of people because they like the SONG.... not because of which charity the proceeds go to. Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:30:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] It runs in the family black-winged roses wrote: > And > yes, I am a very cynical, bitter person. My whole > family is. It's the way > were were brought up. Perhaps we share a common heir. Nathan. . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:32:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] hey big spender li wrote: > I really respect full-time mums. I don't think they > get enough credit. Well go cry to their banks.. this list is NOT the place to vent your anger at credit unions. ** Nathan. (**of course you realise I'm just joking here, 'k? Sorry, couldn't resist) . __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:47:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] shopping dilemmas > Haven't listened to it yet but have heard that song > from it...I Will > Remember You which I quite like! Will be listening > to it soon as well...Can > someone tell me if this CD is good one to start on > with Sez McLachlan? yep.... that or her newie, surfacing (well, not new, but NEWEST). you can get surfacing packaged w/ mirrorball, the live album, which is worth it. my first sarah CD was her debut, touch, which is a bit celtic/corny/lorena whatsernamey for a newbie methinks. l'il dan p.s - you will learn to be really annoyed by i will remember you.... FUCK, AAARGHH. ===== All the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows http://thedent.com/rainn.html ____________________________ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 04:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] who wants to be a millionaire? not tori, if SLuG is anything to go by... "Although.. one really good argument I read once against charity records is... Is Elton John's "Candle in the Wind '97" the biggest selling single ever because everyone thought it was THE BEST song they've ever heard and all went out to buy it? No. The biggest selling record should be a song that is genuinely liked by the most amount of people because they like the SONG.... not because of which charity the proceeds go to." although.... if tori released the biggest pile of shite i had EVER heard, but she was giving all proceeds to charity, i'd prolly buy a bucketload. does that make me a good person, or just gullible? is selling shit for charity defeating the purpose? l'il dan ===== All the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows http://thedent.com/rainn.html ____________________________ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:54:14 +1000 From: "Jasmina J" Subject: [oztori] hmph... >I totally agree with you li! hey, i said that not li...hmmph... :) Dantheman>the vocals on this CD are her worst yet... she doesn't seem to be putting any effort into them at all - shes just sitting there at a mic singing a song... i gotta agree there, i thought they would be better since the nature of the album seems like such a good thing but i think that they suck and make the album crappy, i still think the album good but then i am biased >More so than cunt, anyway. And no guy has the right to use the word "cunt", >I've decided. Its too personal. i don't see what is so wrong with the C word, it doesnt bother me and i dont know why i think there are worse words out there but i've come to learnt that many people dont think so, it came to me in school b/c we are studying a play and this guy is swearing his head off as he is about to kill his g/f and he is calling her all sorts including the C word and no one was allowed to say that word when reading it, and i'm still unsure why since i dont find it that offensive li>"what do u think u r a stupid feminist"... "you're a stupid bitch" continue by all means being a feminist and a bitch, but you aint stupid, just a note on feminism - i think in the next hundred or so years all the boys and men in the world will be reduced to what women were a hundred or so years, you will lose all your rights and women will rule all, it will be a woman's world, revenge for the years that we were held back by all the boys in the world, i dont necessarily agree with this but this is what i see will happen li>He's NOT funny goddamnit! Don't encourage him. i think nathan is funny - nathan you are funny but a bit stupid and mundane too, but i think thats what you strive for DP>I don't mean to sound callous...but you have waaayyyy too much time on your hands methinks! i didnt make it up, i didnt find it, i was shown it by my father, he is full of weird and quirky things, and newpaper clippings, and mind you u can do that sort of number thing with just about anything, one of my friends figured out today that if he has 9 kids and gets 9 divorces she can write down about 50 things on her with the number 9, so there you go _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:35:20 +1000 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: Re: [oztori] twats and kumquats > Stephen "give me moore, give me moore, give me moore" > (from hotel) Moore wrote When I read that, I instantly thought Mandy Moore...sorry Stephen...LOL > > NR: Call me a fucking cynical twat (lol, I'd > > probaly enjoy > > it if you did)... > > Me: I love the sound of the word "twat". > > I also love the sound of the word 'twat'!!! TWAT TWAT > TWAT! > > I also like the sound of 'kumquat' - it sounds awfully > 'rude' IMHO ;) Another word that sounds awfully rude: Quincunx. I defy you to pronounce that correctly without being rude! I can't!!!! hee, hee, hee.... Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 03:54:35 +091800 From: riot@senet.com.au Subject: [oztori] Adam Spencer's word of the day... Adam's word of the day this morning (Tuesday) was 'syllabub': "a creamy French dessert". Made me smile. There are big Tori posters pasted to walls around Adelaide - with the faces of the four cover girls on them. I'm guessing they're in other cities too - anyone seen them? I'd looove to nab one of them for my wall but they're pasted up good. I guess they figured the Tori obsessives would get them in no time if they didn't secure them well ;) Also, I got my copy of SLG (with 'I don't like Mondays' girl) on Sunday - a couple of shops had it out a day early. Yay. I love it, and I'm figuring it all out more and more with each listen - but then I'm _still_ figuring out more about Pele with every listen too! Me go sleep now. Take care, Dale. - ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through SE Net Webmail http://webmail.senet.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:34:40 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: Re: [oztori] shopping dilemmas > p.s - you will learn to be really annoyed by i will > remember you.... FUCK, AAARGHH. especially the AWFUL cover version that some girl did and was all over musicCountry a while back. also, "i will remember you" was a "rare" song over in the US and Canada and so it was included on "B-sides and rarities". OF course, here in australia, it was a bonus track on Fumbling, a single in its own right (which I have yay me - gorgeous cover photo), and a b-side on "Building a mystery" and "Angel"(Australian not UK - the UK "Angel" single is good) and "Adia". And, of course, on "Mirrorball" album and DVD. xoxo Dan ;) ===== Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:27:06 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] another interview by Sarah Stone I have to admit that I felt a tad daunted at the prospect of interviewing Tori Amos. The titian-haired diva sings with such ferocious passion about everything from religion to rape, with a good dose of anti-gun tirades thrown in, that I imagined an opinionated Amazon, ranting away dictatorially while I scribbled feverishly and attempted to crowbar the occasional question into her stream of consciousness. Instead, I met a person who is serene to the point of drifting off into comfortable silences, more polite than I could ever hope to be and, above all, radiating gentleness. Scary? No. Kooky? Occasionally. Contemplative, considered and absolutely committed to her music and beliefs? Definitely. I meet her the day after a one-off gig at a London church. The concert, a sell-out at the Union Church, Islington, was to promote her new album, Strange Little Girls. In it she recasts from a female perspective a dozen songs made famous by men. Tracks by artists such as Eminem, Neil Young, The Boomtown Rats, Slayer, Joe Jackson and Lennon/McCartney are taken apart and put back together darkly, gently and uncompromisingly. Some songs, like Depeche Mode's 'Enjoy The Silence' are faithful to their sources. Others, like Eminem's '97' Bonnie & Clyde' are completely reworked, with Tori spine-tinglingly whispering: "Baby, your dada loves you...nobody in this world is ever gonna keep you from me...come on, we're going to the beach...where's mamma? She's taking a little nap in the trunk. Oh, that smell? Dada must have run over a skunk..." For each song, there is a corresponding depiction of the singer costumed as the "song character" - photos that conjure their own mini-narratives. Amos has also collaborated with graphic novelist Neil "Sandman" Gaiman on a series of short stories about each woman. I ask her whether she was concerned about the male artists' reactions to her interpretations. "I kept my interpretations under my hat until the eleventh hour because I was not seeking approval," she responds. "I'm not having a relationship with the song mothers - the male writers - I'm having a relationship with their song children. My loyalty was to the integrity of the work, not to the composers. "Politically, we're on very different sides of the issue, but there's something about the power of words and there's no question that all these songs are very powerful. In certain songs of mine, like Professional Widow, other characters are insinuated and I think it would be very intriguing if somebody did that song from, say, the perspective of the waitress." Tori is a definite presence. Idiosyncratically beautiful with slanting, sea-green eyes, she radiates charisma even when sitting softly on a functional sofa in a West End hotel. In performance, she is mesmerising. I ask her is she conscious of the crackling stage presence she has. "It's not just about the music or delivery," she replies. "I become a container for the force of the songs. You're holding a thought and the protons and the neutrons inside the thought come with it. I sang 'Raining Blood' (a Slayer track) in a church last night where women have been shamed for their blood by the church and religious orders. "You just have to let the force take you. Sometimes I don't know where the force will take me, but in the church, last night, singing 'Raining Blood', I became almost a conduit for something that isn't a part of me. I think some performers serve the thought itself and the force itself. You're not the flame, you're carrying it and you have to trust what it's going to do and that it will light. The alchemy works." When I was carrying out research for the interview, I was astonished by the amount of websites devoted to her. I tell her that there are actually Tori Amos websites, created by fans, which exist for the sole purpose of listing other Tori Amos websites. How does it feel to be so out of control about what other people are saying about you? "I must tell you, I try and stay away from them," she says. "There are people on the crew who are very aware of what's going on, and they tell me things on a need to know basis. I think that I kind of decided it wasn't my business. That I'd be intruding. People have to feel they have the freedom to discuss things. And by eavesdropping, their discussion might stop me doing something and following my own creative beliefs because I got caught in a web that I shouldn't have been in." The devotion of Tori's fans is unquestionable. There are myriad messages posted on her websites that describe meeting her as a 'life-changing' experience. How hard is it to carry that load? "The words that people use, 'followers', 'fans' - they're people, and a lot of them have an intriguing story. But many of them don't feel it's as worthy of being told. Why is that? The ideas people have, observations they have, and because they might just not be extroverted or command attention, they don't get to share their gifts. "Over the last few years I've become a better listener and my woman friends have had a lot to do with that." I tell her that somebody once said none of us really listen, we're all just waiting for our opportunity to speak. "Yee-ouch!" she replies, with a disarming smile. Following three miscarriages, Tori finally became a mother when Natashya Lorien arrived on 5 September 2000. Did she know from the start that this pregnancy would be different? "I was fortunate this time, I had a really joyous pregnancy. I wasn't confined but I did change my life because that's something the doctors thought I had to do. I learned to sit on my egg like Horton (a Dr. Seuss character). It didn't come naturally - I had to take time to breathe and not be a workaholic." Motherhood, she says, confounds her. "Sometimes no answer is working. I read all the books, what to expect and when, but each kid has its own unique essence." Tori relates a tale about her husband Mark (a British recording engineer) taking Natashya to Hamleys toy store. Told she could choose anything she wanted, the little girl dumbfounded her mother. "I had to sit down, and started to giggle when I saw what it was," says Tori, before challenging me, her beautiful face gleeful, to guess what Natashya chose. "Something disgusting and rubbery that makes horrible farty noises?" I hazarded. "Nearly!" she cried, clapping her hands together like a child. "It's a tape recorder, so that was OK, but it was Barbie one. Barbie! It's something that I would never ever, ever let a kid have, or think to buy for her. I've never had anything of that nature in my life. My sister had Barbies and I used to pull the heads off." The week after our interview was Natashya's first birthday. As I left, I said that I hoped she enjoyed it. "Oh, I'm just so excited!" cried the woman I had felt apprehensive about interviewing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:24:37 +1000 From: "Rachael..." Subject: [oztori] letterman ...according to the official tori mailing list, she'll be performing "Time" on Letterman "tonight". (the newsletter is dated Sept 18).... rachael xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:27:20 +1000 From: "David McGahan" Subject: [oztori] Big Boom Don't ask me why I wrote this. (To the tune of "Way Down", by Tori Amos) "Big Boom" Maybe I'm the Antichrist 'coz I caused a war, you know. Don't you hear the nuking and the big booms? yes I am the Evil One nuking 'till we're all well done not enough splatter... then a big boom. gonna meet a gruesome fate crushed by my bad karmic weight gonna kill billions with a big boom big boom big boom big boom oh no! big boom big boom big boom oh no! Yes, I know it's crap, but I had an overwhelming desire to write this piece. Happened pretty quickly, too. Maybe I'm channelling something? (Erk. There's a thought) Anyway. Back to work. DeeMacGee/Bee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 02:42:57 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Big Boom > gonna meet a gruesome fate > crushed by my bad karmic weight i loved these lines...brilliant! xoxo dan ;) ps - nobby doldrums? please explain! ===== Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:01:19 +1000 From: "David McGahan" Subject: Re: [oztori] Big Boom > > gonna meet a gruesome fate > > crushed by my bad karmic weight > > i loved these lines...brilliant! > xoxo > dan ;) Thankyou :) > ps - nobby doldrums? please explain! Reference my latest messages, regarding one Shaun Micallef, Australian actor and comedian. Nobby Doldrums is another of his characters. Usually seen with Kym Gyngell's (sp?) "Kerry O'Brien" character, Full Frontal 1995-7 Seasons, I think. Anyway. Sorry to have inflicted that upon you :-) DeeMacGee/Bee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:22:35 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: [oztori] SLG ad in Sydney street press There's a full page ad for Strange Little Girls in this weeks issue of Drum Media (dated 18th of Sept, with Kasey Chambers on the front) on p21, featuring the four covers that are available in Australia. The text is "ToriAmos StrangeLittleGirls The amazing new Tori Amos album, feturing covers from Eminem, Depeche Mode, Neil Young, The Stranglers and many more... Out Now", followed by the warner website address and and marketing details. I'll have access to a scanner later to day and I'll send a scan of it on then if someone else doesn't do it first. X Lavs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:40:15 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] letterman > ...according to the official tori mailing list, she'll be performing "Time" > on Letterman "tonight". (the newsletter is dated Sept 18).... The continuing saga of when this ep of Letterman will air over here is currently at the status of: I have no idea. Last nights show was an older one than the night before, and I couldn't make out anything from what was mentioned, other than it was a rect one after listening to the monologues on the website. I am only hoping that my original estimate is right, rather than it being skipped totally here... X Lavs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:10:03 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] touched for the very first time... scary images of 7-year-old me singing along to "like a virgin". >Really did you not listen to the lyrics while you were listening to >this type of music? If so, how is it that you managed to sing along so >well? You must've listened/read them at least once. Maybe it didn't >sink in, maybe you didn't understand. Maybe you did. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:51:58 +1000 From: "David McGahan" Subject: [oztori] Thought I'd Share Just a little something a friend of mine sent me :) >Century 1, Quatrain 87 >------------------------ >Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth. >Will cause the towers around the New City to shake, >Two great rocks for a long time will make war, >And then Arethusa will color a new river red. >- Nostradamus. >Arethusa is a greek nymph.....and is also an anagram of USA HATER. Chances are slim, granted - but I wouldn't put it past good ol' Nosty. DMcG/B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:19:55 +1000 From: "David McGahan" Subject: [oztori] Really Vague Thoughts - Volume One Men are the strangest little girls. ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #162 ****************************