From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #136 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Wednesday, September 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] OT: I fell over. [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] OT: I fell over. ["Kyla Dyresen" ] Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious [=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= ] Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious ["li" ] [oztori] ozbootylicious@smoe.org [Nathan R ] [oztori] Fuck Booty@#$@licious [Natty ] Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious [Nathan R ] [oztori] STILL MORE BOOTYLICIOUS.... oh, and a line or two about that ms. amos... [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Fuck Booty@#$@licious ["Kyla Dyresen" ] [oztori] OT: Bootylicious fact [Nathan R ] [oztori] Face it Nathan, you're a nerd [Dan Stapleton ] Re: Re[4]: [oztori] Grr! Help again! [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] tori pics - recent [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] Re: Sexuality is "Interesting" [AndrewR ] [oztori] Tori cd / posters ["Hill, Renee" ] [oztori] US Rolling Stone review ["Hill, Renee" ] Re: [oztori] Introductions [Dan Stapleton ] [oztori] sexuality ["nina riddel" ] Re: [oztori] Tori cd / posters [Daniel Hirning ] Re: [oztori] Tori cd / posters [Dan Stapleton ] RE: [oztori] Tori cd / posters ["Hill, Renee" ] Re: [oztori] sexuality [Daniel Hirning ] [oztori] Samurai [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] Samurai [Daniel Hirning ] Re: [oztori] '97 B&C [=?iso-8859-1?q?Rala?= ] Re: [oztori] '97 B&C [Dan Stapleton ] [oztori] eeeeeee! ["Hill, Renee" ] Re: [oztori] eeeeeee! [Daniel Hirning ] RE: [oztori] eeeeeee! ["Hill, Renee" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 00:15:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: I fell over. Kyla You need to stop injecting smack into your hand. Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:23:12 +1000 From: "Kyla Dyresen" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: I fell over. Nathan Just ONE MORE HIT! Kyla. > Kyla > > You need to stop injecting smack into your hand. > > Nathan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:41:03 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious > And 80's Madonna wasn't "severely wrong" in the > first > place? ;) Are you dissing such gems as "Material Girl" and "Like A Prayer"? > I would *LOVE* for Tori do cover "Bootylicious". I > think it would be so cool. Ye...no. I'm sorry but not even Toz can save that song now. But I saw the filmclip a few days ago. And WHAT ON EARTH is Stevie Nicks doing in it!!! She can't be THAT desperate for money... But (and I'm going to get shot or something for saying this) the scratchy guitar noise throughout is DAMN CATCHY! I listened to the whole song just listening to that, I loved it!!! And I swear that they are saying "I don't think you're ready for fish jelly". Even their lips say that. we are living in a material world and i am a material girl. or boy. (just to keep with the whole transsexual thing) xoxo Dan ;) ===== one false move, and you're dead, ah... Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:48:42 +1000 From: "Kyla Dyresen" Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious Stevie Nicks is in the video? The guitar riff I actually think is from a Fleetwood Mac song. Perhaps that explains things. - - Kyla http://kyla.left.the-pla.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious > Ye...no. I'm sorry but not even Toz can save that song > now. But I saw the filmclip a few days ago. And WHAT > ON EARTH is Stevie Nicks doing in it!!! She can't be > THAT desperate for money... But (and I'm going to get > shot or something for saying this) the scratchy guitar > noise throughout is DAMN CATCHY! I listened to the > whole song just listening to that, I loved it!!! And I > swear that they are saying "I don't think you're ready > for fish jelly". Even their lips say that. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:38:12 +1000 From: "li" Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious I'm proud that I have no idea what any of you are talking about. BUT, aside from that, two things. 1. What's your favourite tori cover sleeve thingy majiggy? 2. I forget. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] ozbootylicious@smoe.org Daniel wrote: > > And 80's Madonna wasn't "severely wrong" in the > > first > > place? ;) > > Are you dissing such gems as "Material Girl" and > "Like > A Prayer"? Not necessarily... The opportunity to make a nasty comment arose, and I took it - that's all. > > I would *LOVE* for Tori do cover "Bootylicious". > I > > think it would be so cool. > > Ye...no. I'm sorry but not even Toz can save that > song > now. But I saw the filmclip a few days ago. And WHAT > ON EARTH is Stevie Nicks doing in it!!! She can't be > THAT desperate for money... You'd be surprised at the lengths some would go to in order to fund their crack addicitons. > But (and I'm going to > get > shot or something for saying this) the scratchy > guitar > noise throughout is DAMN CATCHY! I listened to the > whole song just listening to that, I loved it!!! It's sampled from Stevie Nicks' "Edge of Seventeen" FYI. > And > I > swear that they are saying "I don't think you're > ready > for fish jelly". Even their lips say that. Yeah it does sound like that. But now I hear "DIS" jelly. And I love how they say, "my body too bootylicious for you babe", and don't say "my body'S too bootylicious.." - for some reason I love when those black American women have complete disregard for correct grammar. But I only make the exception for them. oxo (the gravy cubes again) Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Natty Subject: [oztori] Fuck Booty@#$@licious > 1. What's your favourite tori cover sleeve thingy > majiggy? That's a good question. I can't decide between two: From The Choirgirl Hotel - I love the photography in that, the technique used (photcopier), and how dark and moody the images look. And, Boys For Pele - there's something almost 'feral' about the images. Unleashed anger, contempt for what's considered 'right', a bit of anarchy. I love it! Could I sound more art-farty? Natty ===== - - intermission - http://www.torn-apart.net/intermission/ - - Proud Amberholic - http://amberholics.amberbenson.net - - W/A lurve - http://washippers.envy.nu Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious li wrote: > I'm proud that I have no idea what any of you are > talking about. Oh but I'm *certain* you'd love "Bootylicious" as much as the rest of us! > BUT, aside from that, two things. > > 1. What's your favourite tori cover sleeve thingy > majiggy? Mine is... maybe the Crucify sleeve with the spring onions around her neck? album cover - probably From the Choirgirl Hotel Other good 'uns: Also like the Cornflake Girl Limited Edition digipak one, and the Pretty Good Year double digipak one. The pic on the US Pro Widow single is also 'tres' nice (to sound like you, li). Boys For Pele artwork is the most interesting tho. Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] STILL MORE BOOTYLICIOUS.... oh, and a line or two about that ms. amos... Natty wrote: > > 1. What's your favourite tori cover sleeve thingy > > majiggy? > > That's a good question. I can't decide between two: > From The Choirgirl Hotel - I love the photography in > that, the technique used (photcopier), and how dark > and moody the images look. And, Boys For Pele - > there's something almost 'feral' about the images. > Unleashed anger, contempt for what's considered > 'right', a bit of anarchy. I love it! Somebody posted this on the dent forums like months and MONTHS ago, but I saved it 'cuz I like it... It's an interpretation of the whole BFP artwork. Enjoy: ======================================================= The cover for Pele is quite a special one,and I`m curious to know people`s perceptions and interpretations of it.What do you read from Tori and her surroundings both on the front&back of the cover? My friend gave me her interpretation yesterday,and I have mixed feelings about it,although I think it`s a really good one.I guess the reason for my mixed emotions is that it doesn`t put Tori in a good light.. She thinks that the pictures give a feeling if sickness and decay.Tori is in a farm far away from other people,and there is a sickness/craziness about her.She doesn`t care at all what other people think anymore,and does exactly what she likes.(And because of the the state she`s in,those aren`t good things).The fire arm in her hands is a symbol of her aggressiveness and desire to kill and destroy.Her face radiates nothing but her need for revenge,and the superiour look in her eyes tells you she knows she`ll get it.She`s already won,in HER mind.She`s all greesy and dirty,because that`s how she feels,or what she has become,maybe.All her vulnerability and innosence is gone,and the only thing left is the need to destroy.A need she is not even trying to fight(anymore).(She`s not washing off the mud on her feet,it`s like she doesn`t care she`s dirty.She doesn`t care that it shows). When she feeds the piglet on the back of the cover,it`s not because she really cares about it,but because she knows it needs her.She allows it to get dependent of her,just because that gives her power over it.She`ll probably kill it.The snakes sense all the decay and sickness,and are attracted by the possibility of a "meal".They are fed by all the radiation of sin in this place.Snakes also represent sin and man`s "fall from grace",so to speak. I`m not sure about the children in the window.They could represent innosence,not able to reach her anymore. Like I said,it does not paint a nice picture of Tori.. This interpretation is originally my friends,but now very influenced by me as I was the on who put it into writing. ======================================================= Nathan. "I'M JUST A PATHETIC straightforward case history, aren't I, really?" - Siobhan Fahey. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:24:10 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Fuck Booty@#$@licious 1. What's your favourite tori cover sleeve thingy majiggy? YAY - Another good question, one that has been asked before I'm sure, but one I've never answered! Hands down - Talula w/ the butterflies. go tori go tori go tori bevan http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:26:44 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious --- Nathan R wrote: > Oh but I'm *certain* you'd love "Bootylicious" as > much > as the rest of us! Objection, your Honour! http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:57:44 +1000 From: "li" Subject: Re: [oztori] Booty@#$@licious Hey nice to notice that you notice that I put tres in front of everything tres unnecessarily! COOL! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:39:46 +1000 From: "Kyla Dyresen" Subject: Re: [oztori] Fuck Booty@#$@licious > 1. What's your favourite tori cover sleeve thingy > majiggy? > Hands down - Talula w/ the butterflies. My friend found an empty LP cover for Talula, the one with the butterflies... i opened it up and put it on my wall. Better than a poster!! My favs would be... the Winter single, on the horse.. Or the Cornflake Girl single.... in the box with the cool, cool dress :) - - Kyla http://kyla.left.the-pla.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 04:22:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] OT: Bootylicious fact The last 13 e-mails (14 including this one) to the list have contained 'bootylicious' somewhere in the subject heading. That is very impressive. Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 04:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] Face it Nathan, you're a nerd Nathan said: "The last 13 e-mails (14 including this one) to the list have contained 'bootylicious' somewhere in the subject heading." WOW. why didn't i notice that? that really is FASCINATING. thanks for pointing it out, nathan. ===== - - But all the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:44:57 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] Face it Nathan, you're a nerd isn't it almost becoming 'cool' to be a nerd in this day and age? as for favorite covers... i really like the god maxi single one for some strange reason... its cause of all the glassware i think :) and of course the butterfly talula one. fav album cover... - choirgirl hotel i reckon... dan.the.nerd. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:26:59 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] thankyou for this interview! At 21:28 2/09/2001 -0700, Hill, Renee wrote: >SCENE; >24 HOURS IN THE LIFE OF Tori Amos [snip] Tori is going on a 12hr flight from Enland to the "tropics" would that be Australia!?!?!?! >What really made you laugh today? > > >We were in a shoe shop in town and a little old lady came up to me, wanting >me to help her measure her feet. I was happy that she thought i could pass >as a shop girl. I told her I'd go for the baby blue rather than the canary >yellow, which i thought clashed with her skin tone, but then she realised i >wasn't the shop girl and it was all rather embarrassing! > > I love this - it sounds like Tori could do one of those Caltex ads! ;o) [snip] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:27:55 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] SLG mp3's At 14:30 3/09/2001 +1000, Simon Metcalf wrote: >Hi, > >For those who'd like to hear full versions of the SLG songs and don't >already have them, you can get them at >http://www.rendo.dekooi.nl/~loesje/_dlsongs2.html > >Simon. > Why not wait for the freakin' album!?! Its out in like 12 days. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:30:59 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: Re[4]: [oztori] Grr! Help again! At 15:56 3/09/2001 +1000, Daniel Hirning wrote: >Monday, September 03, 2001, 3:00:39 AM, AndrewR wrote: > >A> OK even though it's spelt with an 'a' - was that pun intended Daniel!?! LOL! > >i'm at a *complete* loss as to what is spelt with an 'a'..... > >So no, i must admit, it wasn't intended.... Well you were talking about cross-stitches etc. etc. and you said "something something it seems" the other word - with the 'a' - SEAMS... as in sewing - and stitches etc. Andrew > >dan.the.man. >dan@danhirning.com >www.danhirning.com >3:56 pm, 3/09/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:44:53 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] tori pics - recent At 21:06 3/09/2001 -0700, Hill, Renee wrote: [snip] >http://www.oneway.com/ewf/earsfeet/ewfpics/londonmg4.jpg [snip] Is Tori a shape-shifter!?! I'm serious - she looks TOTALLY different in nearly EVERY picture! Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:00:01 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Re: Sexuality is "Interesting" At 00:44 5/09/2001 +1000, Justa Boi wrote: >Oh face it, you haven't lived until you've tried being omnisexual+. > Has that got anything to do with that ad/wine "Omni"!?! ;o) Where there is this breath-y "Ommmniiiiii" and a woman with a gravel-ish voice goes: "It's a little bit different". ;o) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:04:48 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: RE: [oztori] Loch Ness Darwin At 00:51 5/09/2001 +1000, Darwin Clan wrote: [snip] >In other news, I got a job in the UK!! I'll be working/living at the >Inversnaid Hotel (apparently one of the best in Europe) in Loch Lomond - >Loch Ness Monster here I come!! Hang on... what happened to the Call Centre job... I mean GEEZ one hand call-centre the other hand Scotland hmmmmmmmm!?! ;o) Or is this just for around the time of the wedding!?! I don't even KNOW you - yet know your day-to-day affairs ;o) > Here's the connection... my mum's sister's >husband's brother's son in law was the manager of the hotel for years and >years and he said he'll be able to get me a job there no worries!! Yay!!! >It'll be winter when I get there though, and I was speaking to my cousin and >she said when she was living in Inversnaid, it got so cold sometimes the >motor of her car would literally freeze. So it would be like trying to start >an ice block, literally! omg... *mental note - bring lots of warm clothes. > And enough petrol ;o) [snip] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:15:24 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] Tori cd / posters the posters are gorgeous! anyways, the cd is absolutely beautiful - it's a fold out booklet, and the first people tori thanks are of course, Mark & Tash. she has also credited Natashya as being the executive producer, and also in the thanks she acknowledges stolichnaya (mmm... vodka!). No mention of the faeries, though... The quotes accompanying the pictures are as follows: New Age: all your tomorrows start here Strange Little Girl: whenever it rains you think of her Time: one day you will open your eyes and see her Enjoy the Silence: thirty-five years a showgirl Rattlesnakes: she rides rollercoasters but never screams I'm Not In Love: she forgets him utterly and forever '97 Bonnie & clyde: she wonders what her daughter will do I Don't Like Mondays: she found the first body in a stairwell Happiness Is A Warm Gun: the smell of cordite alwats makes her think of the fourth of july Raining Blood: actually the Gestapo picked her up Heart of Gold: it's not glamorous... it's just business Real Men: all of these things are true. Sorry I can't be bothered typing out the entire booklet... there's nothing else very exciting about the cd. very boring back cover, no pictures on inside back. disc is very boring, almost little earthquakey. I don't care - I love it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:31:17 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] US Rolling Stone review In Strange Little Girls Tori Amos has made a record that is huge in its strangeness: twelve covers of songs written by men - mostly for or about women, mostly without happy endings - in which Amos sings from the other side of the anxiety and sorrow. It is dangerous work. Amos is messing here with hard, cynical, even predatory males, including Lou Reed, Depeche Mode, the Stranglers and Eminem, redirecting narrative and intent as if these songs were hers alone. And as a songwriter, Amos would surely flinch if such liberties were taken with her own stories. But she attacks the possibilities in Strange Little Girls with a grip and grit often missing from her other solo work, and her handful of bull's-eyes easily justifies her audacity. Reed's "New Age" is typical of Amos' attention to emotional detail. The Velvet Underground's 1970 recording on Loaded was a tale of quick sex and faded glamour, Reed's rewrite of Sunset Boulevard for the Andy Warhol crowd ("You're over the hill right now/And you're looking for love"). Amos, however, turns to an earlier draft that Reed performed live with the VU in 1969, a first-person moan of a soul gorged with lust but racked with need. Scarring the heavy sigh of her electric piano with sneering-fuzz guitar, Amos boosts Reed's monotonic empathy ("Waiting for the phone to ring/Lipstick on my neck and shoulder") with the lived-in aroma of damp bedsheets and stubbed-out cigarettes. She also pulls "I'm Not in Love" out from under British ironists 10cc - stripping their 1975 hit of its art-pop gleam, dragging the denial inside into the open - and plugs Neil Young's "Heart of Gold" into a guitar-army squall cribbed from the Stooges' "I Wanna Be Your Dog," connecting the twin electricities of pure devotion and animal sex. Amos can misread the point of a song's original arrangement. The Boomtown Rats' 1979 single "I Don't Like Mondays" was at once florid and chilling, arch pop journalism about a real-life tragedy: a teenage girl turned sniper. Amos' naked piano and the girlish hurt in her voice soften the horror, reducing the killing to candied tragedy. She replaces the beastly guitars in Slayer's "Raining Blood" with sepulchral piano but wails like she can't make up her mind whether she wants to be Laura Nyro or Diamanda Galas. But Amos always shoots bravely, if not wisely, and it is all worthwhile just for "97' Bonnie and Clyde," in which Amos turns Eminem's wife-killing fantasy inside out: speaking in the afterlife whisper of the dead woman in the trunk of the car, comforting her baby daughter in the moments before her body is thrown into the water. "No more fighting with Dad, no more restraining order," she coos with relief, intoning the hook from the Eminem track - the chorus of Bill Withers and Grover Washington Jr.'s "Just the Two of Us" - in her own piercing falsetto, a liberated spirit soaring in love and anguish. Eminem may get the royalties, but he no longer owns the song. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:07:53 +1000 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: Re: [oztori] ozbootylicious@smoe.org > It's sampled from Stevie Nicks' "Edge of Seventeen" > FYI. > And you know this Nathan? You're even sadder than I originally thought! LOL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:31:29 +1000 From: n/a Subject: [oztori] Introductions Greetings and salutations, all :) Long intros are a pain, so here's a short one for you: Nickname: David McGahan DOB: May 21st, 1979 Age: 22 Sign: Taurus / Gemini Cusp Location: Bringelly, NSW Marital Status: Involved Torified: in 1996-7, "came out" as a fan in late '97. Friends converted to Toridom: One, and counting. Interests: Theoretical Quantum Physics / Hyperspatial and Higher Dimensional Mechanics, Stand-Up Comedy Read Last: Dune Messiah (Frank Herbert) Currently Reading: children of Dune (Frank Herbert) Reading Next: Might give Dune a break for a while and read Glamorama (Bret Easton Ellis) Favourite Book: Dune (Frank Herbert), American Psycho (Bret Easton Ellis), 1984 (George Orwell) Favourite Films: George Orwell's 1984 (1984), Frank Herbert's Dune (1984), Star Trek: First Contact (1996?), Postcards From The Edge (1989?) Favourite TV Shows: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, Compass, Life Support, Eat Carpet, Dilbert, and that Mr Hell show on SBS. Musical tastes (in no particular order): Everything But The Girl, Towa Tei, Tori Amos (duh-huh), Enya, Madonna, Melissa Etheridge, ABBA, Annie Lennox, Massive Attack, Bjvrk, Jewel, Tina Arena, Vanessa-Mae, Blu Cantrell, Fatboy Slim and I'm totally in love with both the "Stigmata" and "Moulin Rouge" soundtracks. I used to love Human Nature (hey! I hear you judging me... STOP IT!), but I'm over that now. I'm also partial to a bit of Maxwell, Massive Attack, Jamiroquai and what little Portishead I've heard. Tori Preferences: (I'm not good with picking just one favourite song off the albums, so indulge my indecision) YKTR Song: Haven't heard any yet. Where do I find some?? LE Song: Little Earthquakes (on a bad day), Precious Things (high volume on a worse day). UTP Song: Cornflake Girl and Yes, Anastasia BFP Song: Caught a Lite Sneeze, Talula FTCGH Song: iieee, Spark, Playboy Mommy TVAB Song: Disc 1: Glory of the 80's, Riot Proof, 1000 Oceans Disc 2: Purple People, Cooling Anticipated SLG: '97 Bonnie and Clyde. (I've heard it's totally disturbing. Yes, please!) Anything else you want to know? Feel free to email me: David_McGahan@bigpond.com See you 'round! DeeMacGee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:44:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] Introductions - --- n/a wrote: well helloooooo new boy. a few things you need to know about oztori: 1) almost everyone on this list is called daniel 2) all the guys apart from a few are gay 3) the girls all have cool, funny names like li, jas and lavs 4) nathan is our resident bitch. watch out. welcome! dan ===== - - But all the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:53:30 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] sexuality " And I wish I knew the right words / to make you feel better, walk out of this place / and defeat them in your secret battle / show them you can be your own man again " - The Whitlams, 'Blow Up the Pokies' " Veiled behind screens / kept as your baby machine While you conquer more orifices / of boys, goats and things " - Siouxsie Sioux, 'Arabian Knights' " I'm just a raunchy sex queen. Is that what you wanted to hear? " - Polly Harvey >T: Well I owned two, which are of course "Hounds of >Love" and the one after, "The Sensual World". I really >love those two. Someone gave me "The Red Shoes", but >then someone else stole it. People come to my beach >house in Miami and some things go and some things >arrive. Where did that ceramic squirrel come from? Woohoo! this should be the list quote: "Where did that ceramic squirrel come from?" - Tori Amos >Subject: [oztori] sexuality is interesting >there was actually a reason for the header, and it's >this: it strikes me that quite a few people on this >list are pretty open in terms of their sexuality. do >you think that it's simply the common bond of tori >(free sexual beast that she is) that engenders an >openness amongst us, or whether a larger proportion of >tori fans are gay than is representitive of the >general populus? or maybe tori fans are just more >honest that most, meaning there are far less closetted >gay toriphiles than, say, slayer fans (LMAO - a huge >big vagina coming out of the sky, raining blood....). Ever since someone said that they would never dream of putting a homophobic comment on a tori list, i've been thinking about this. i know there's the theory that all male kate bush fans are gay, but is this the same for tori? what about women? in short, why wouldn't u put a homophobic comment here (I'm a lesbian, so i'm certainly not debating this statement, just wondering what it meant)? >in general, do you see australia as an open place in >terms of sexual preference? personally, i have to say >canberra sucks in that regard. it seems pretty >homophobic. sydney, however, is the most open place >i've lived in, and i've been around lol. certainly, >tori fans kinda have to be cool with sexual choices in >order to apprieciate tori. i wonder, if she were to >fight other forms of discrimination other than rape >and homophobia, she would sway views in the tori >community? brisbane sucks, too. >TORI FOR PRESIDENT! LOL yeah! >I think it comes down to the fact that for some *unknown* reason there >is a larger proportion of tori fans that are gay then straight. you're talking MALE tori fans though, aren't u? >Therefore, its the straight people that are 'outnumbered' and we have >to 'learn to accept' them. hehe "please do not feed or tease the sraights" (badge we made our str8 friends wear at pride fair day) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:25:49 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori cd / posters Thursday, September 06, 2001, 9:15:24 AM, Renee wrote: HR> I don't care - I love it! that's because tori can do no wrong in your eyes. dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:29:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori cd / posters - --- Daniel Hirning snarled: > HR> I don't care - I love it! > > that's because tori can do no wrong in your eyes. OOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!! FIGHT! FIGHT! ===== - - But all the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:30:38 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] Introductions Thursday, September 06, 2001, 11:31:29 AM, n/a wrote: na> Location: Bringelly, NSW I hate getting asked this when i saw where i'm from (tenterfield..) but wtf is Bringelly?!? na> Marital Status: Involved Involved with... M or F? - just for statistical information (btw, you don't have to say if you don't want) na> Interests: Theoretical Quantum Physics / Hyperspatial and Higher na> Dimensional Mechanics, Stand-Up Comedy could this mean there is finally a fellow sciencey person on the list! - - Oh the joy! - The moments of feeling all alone in this cruel tori world is finally over! na> Tina Arena, i pity you for having such poor tastes in music. na> YKTR Song: Haven't heard any yet. Where do I find some?? LE Song: someone on here will be able to hook you up if you ask nicely i'm sure. na> Anything else you want to know? Feel free to email me: na> David_McGahan@bigpond.com why didn't your parents call you Daniel? - whats with this david crap? - - i don't think oztori can survive with a name *other* then daniel on here... na> See you 'round! you spin me right round baby like a record baby right round... (no idea why that sprung into my head when i saw that... but it did) dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:40:36 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: RE: [oztori] Tori cd / posters daniel hirning wrote: >that's because tori can do no wrong in your eyes. wait till you see the booklet. then you'll see what i'm saying. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:34:10 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re[2]: [oztori] Introductions Thursday, September 06, 2001, 11:44:17 AM, Dan wrote: DS> 2) all the guys apart from a few are gay indeed they are, which currently is also a topic of conversation... for the record, the only straight male on here that i know is myself... - are there any others?! :) DS> 3) the girls all have cool, funny names like li, jas DS> and lavs 'most' girls are on here are lovely... - there is just one or two that i have on permanent ignore... but li, jas and lavs (as well as having the nicest names on the list) are also some of the nicest :) DS> 4) nathan is our resident bitch. watch out. While yes, he is officially the resident bitch, i'm not far behind in my bitchiness - and indeed at times, i take over the throne when nathan isn't paying attention. other useless information that my fellow dan the man didn't mention... - - dan is the youngest on the list at a youthful age of 15... (dan stapleton i'm talking about) DS> welcome! yes, i'll 2nd that.. WELCOME! DS> dan dan. dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:39:41 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] sexuality Thursday, September 06, 2001, 11:53:30 AM, nina wrote: nr> Ever since someone said that they would never dream of putting a nr> homophobic comment on a tori list, i've been thinking about this. nr> i know there's the theory that all male kate bush fans are gay, nr> but is this the same for tori? what about women? in short, why nr> wouldn't u put a homophobic comment here (I'm a lesbian, so i'm nr> certainly not debating this statement, just wondering what it nr> meant)? that was me that said that.... IMO, like i have said before, i treat all males on this list as gay unless they specifically say they aren't. i do however, treat all females on this list as straight - simple because of all the tori fans i know IRL that are female are straight.. Everyone regards male tori fans as gay - this was a big discussion on the ben folds five mailing list a few weeks ago when SLG came up as a possible good release (don't worry, i made sure they heard *MY* opinion of the utter crap tori is producing in this album.) why wouldn't I make a homophobic comment on this list... - because a) i would never do that in the first place and b) because it would make 99% of the list automatically hate me (which they probable do anyway... - but i don't want to give them a good reason to hate me...) nr> brisbane sucks, too. interesting you say that - cause 2 (gay) guys from my high school year went to brisbane (to escape the typical country homophobic people) and they absolutely love the place... >>I think it comes down to the fact that for some *unknown* reason >>there is a larger proportion of tori fans that are gay then >>straight. nr> you're talking MALE tori fans though, aren't u? indeed i was... - like i said above.. - female tori fans come across to be mostly straight... (am i wrong on this thought?) nr> hehe "please do not feed or tease the sraights" (badge we made our nr> str8 friends wear at pride fair day) :-)))) dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] Samurai doing a batch of poetry journal submissions ATM, so i thought i'd post something for your amusement/interest/discussion. :) Samurai Sedimentary basalt, Crags and space, blinking brook. It is desperate, this desire. Crueler than a sun-drenched mourning, The morning snarl of Wuthering Heights. Sifted with moor and moss, - - A calling. A scream, A scruffy babe in the sliding marsh. From myriad wood, deserted lungs, Coaly and impure, bitter strawberries; From truth, picking on the expanse, Choking on niceties and algebra, Shines a twinkle: The sultry calm cascade. It is the smell. Fuzzy scents, Harmonys dizzy calling of willful weakness. Steamed root aroma, drowsy, Dying in casual flushes. Bubbles, Steady and golden. Fingers red with memory, Receptors of berries wholly unknown, The substance inconsequential. This night! So moist and fluffy, An iced sky. A mushroom, Softer than a dozen deaths. The cure-all. Helpless and lucidly dreamy, Two children, snuggled and impure. Denim, as always. My point, rolling over the downs; My feather duster owl. My old, holy clothes. An exquisitely unbearable rug. My samurai. ===== - - But all the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:55:27 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] Samurai Thursday, September 06, 2001, 12:44:53 PM, Dan wrote: DS> Fingers red with memory, i dunno why... but this line.... causes some really disturbing images in my head... :)) dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:02:16 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rala?= Subject: Re: [oztori] '97 B&C hey does anyone know where I can get a copy of Eminem's '97 bonnie & clyde from? Cause I am doing a Uni discussion thingy on Tori vs Eminem... Rala ;oD ===== 'I started to accept the mess I'm in. I know that mess spelled backwards is ssem and I felt much better armed with that information' ~ Tori Amos ~ http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] '97 B&C www.aimster.com ===== - - But all the time I'm thinking, "If I only had a pair of wings..." - They dress you up in white satin - And In August and Everything After, I'm after everything - - -- Counting Crows ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:38:15 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] eeeeeee! i just got all four copies of the album, plus more posters, plus four of those little download cards with 'time' girl on them!!!!!!!!!!!! i am so excited right now. i need to be strapped to my chair. oh, and new bit of info - I Don't Like Mondays girl is one of the covers. No 'Time' girl in sight. Don't know whether this is just an Aussie thing or not... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:44:34 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] eeeeeee! Thursday, September 06, 2001, 1:38:15 PM, Renee wrote: HR> oh, and new bit of info - I Don't Like Mondays girl is one of the HR> covers. No 'Time' girl in sight. Don't know whether this is just HR> an Aussie thing or not... so there is definitely the four different covers then? Its not going to be all four pics on the one cover like someone thought? i can't believe they truly expect people to buy *4* of the same album to get all the covers! HOW RUDE! - that must be how they intend to get the sales up above or something... - make everyone buy it 4 times... - people - just remember, in a months time, its going to be in the bargain bin... so get all the covers then :) (other useless fact i just noticed.... - 4 on the keyboard is also the $ sign... - hmmmm... 4 covers... $$$ see the connection?? :) what's worrying me is that its getting extremely unlikely that this is a double CD with one cd being original stuff.... :( well enjoy getting all the freebies - and if you get an over supply - you know how to get rid of some of them ;) dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:03:10 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: RE: [oztori] eeeeeee! Daniel Hirning wrote: >what's worrying me is that its getting extremely unlikely that this is >a double CD with one cd being original stuff.... :( okay - nice and loudly.... THIS IS NOT HAPPENING. NEVER WAS. I have the proof right in front of me. ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #136 ****************************