From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #133 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Tuesday, September 4 2001 Volume 01 : Number 133 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] london mp3's [=?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= ] Re: [oztori] How to care for your CD's - volume 864. [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Thought for the day ["Lavenda" ] Re: [oztori] OT: Madonna & Tori tour [Nathan R ] Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! ["black-winged roses" ] Re: [oztori] OT: Madonna ["Dylan Plant" ] Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! ["Dylan Plant" ] [oztori] OT ["Elissa Chrystal" ] RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! ["Darwin Clan" ] [oztori] sexuality is interesting [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] holds out wrist... [Dan Stapleton ] Re: [oztori] sexuality is interesting ["li" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 17:34:25 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bevan=20Burkin?= Subject: [oztori] london mp3's so hi all, sensitive mp3 topic following: *g* Wow - what a cool set and show, wish I was there! The quality is OKAY (way better than most non-soundboard mp3s), sometimes you feel like your there, others, like WTF is going on in the background. Some spanner has encoded them at 256! Which can only be good. But not for my (now pregnant) 56k modem! So if you can't be bothered downloading all of them, here are the highlights: Lust - with wicked improv, something like 'remember, remember, remember'. I have a new appreciation for this song - and it already has its own pedastal! Icicle! Just on the piano - goes for like 8 mins! Totally hypnotic as usual - tori gets real gutteral and screams out I COULD HAVE I SHOULD HAVE very differently! Crucify - if this is the only one you get .. you've done well. Done on the wurley!! Cute fuck up in the middle where she bursts out laughing then sings about how we wait for her to stuff up. Totally excellent. Merman - wondiferous intro! not sang too differently but with HEAPS of feeling .. just special. Rattlesnakes and Raining Blood were excellent - but I can't wait to hear what they sound like at the end of the tour!! I got em from hereinmyhead.com Seeyou! Bevan http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:41:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] PS Simon, I *sooooooooooooooooooooooo* want to read the e-mail that preceded this one. E-mail it to me off list if you don't wish to share it with everyone else. Nathan. - --- Simon Metcalf wrote: > AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING IN THIS WORLD YOU CAN > DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!!! . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] How to care for your CD's - volume 864. Jasmina J wrote, of caring for CD's: > do most of them, and only lend to people i trust, BIG mistake #1. I don't lend my CD's to *anybody*. I don't trust *anyone* with them. End of story. Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:46:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Here's 30 cents, tell someone who cares Andy D wrote: > Bros LMAO!!! I LOVED Bros when I was younger.... I > remember they played a > concert at Luna Park in Melbourne (!) and my > sister's friend went so I got > her to take my Bros cassette album with her to get > signed.... I wonder if > it's worth anything now... LMAO! It might go for 30 cents in the bargain bin, rather than 20 cents. lol.. Kinda like the McDonald's 30 cent ice-cream things... "Buy a hamburger and get a free signed Bros cassette worth 30 cents!" Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:48:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Thought for the day If you make a dress out of cross-stitch, is it called a "cross dress"? Nathan. - --- Daniel Hirning wrote: > Sunday, September 02, 2001, 5:41:39 PM, Lavenda > wrote: > > L> Oh, and if anyone is interested in viewing the > cross-stitch I did for the > L> Sydney RAINN party, look here: > L> http://www.envy.nu/drifts/crossstitch.html > > i'm not one that likes this type of stuff... - > but i looked at the > pic, (and while it isn't the most detailed... :) > i gotta say - i'm > impressed! :) > > maybe its easier then it looks, but that is > still pretty bloody > impressive :) > > (also... cross stitch... - is that you make a X by > doing a heap of \ \ > \ \ \ \ \ \ \ and then going back over it / / / / > / / / / / and you > end up with X X X X X X ? > > i'm not up in my styles of stitches... - > schooling failed me it > seems... > > dan.the.man. > dan@danhirning.com > www.danhirning.com > 11:20 pm, 2/09/2001 Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 17:52:15 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] Thought for the day It's only a cross dress if it's angry ;) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan R To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: [oztori] Thought for the day > If you make a dress out of cross-stitch, is it called > a "cross dress"? > > Nathan. > > > --- Daniel Hirning wrote: > > Sunday, September 02, 2001, 5:41:39 PM, Lavenda > > wrote: > > > > L> Oh, and if anyone is interested in viewing the > > cross-stitch I did for the > > L> Sydney RAINN party, look here: > > L> http://www.envy.nu/drifts/crossstitch.html > > > > i'm not one that likes this type of stuff... - > > but i looked at the > > pic, (and while it isn't the most detailed... :) > > i gotta say - i'm > > impressed! :) > > > > maybe its easier then it looks, but that is > > still pretty bloody > > impressive :) > > > > (also... cross stitch... - is that you make a X by > > doing a heap of \ \ > > \ \ \ \ \ \ \ and then going back over it / / / / > > / / / / / and you > > end up with X X X X X X ? > > > > i'm not up in my styles of stitches... - > > schooling failed me it > > seems... > > > > dan.the.man. > > dan@danhirning.com > > www.danhirning.com > > 11:20 pm, 2/09/2001 > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Madonna & Tori tour Daniel wrote: > I love this whole thing where we all like the same > music and not just Tori. Although WHEN Tori tours, > I'm > envisaging nothing but an OzTori turnout hahaha Face it, Tori's body won't ever again be present on our Antipodean shores - not unless when she dies some pathologist does a scan of her body and finds something ultra-fascinating, and her body is brought over to Australia as part of an international tour for scientists to witness. Or maybe if life as we know it is wiped out in a meteorite shower, and then the next life-form discover Tori's body buried in the rubble, and preserve the remains for display on a museum-type thang situated on soil located directly above where Australia used to be. LOL - that has got to be the most whacked-out thought I have had yet! Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! Daniel wrote: > On Thursday September 13th, Club UK (169 Exhibition > Street,Melbourne) will be having a Strange Little > Grrls night. It will start at 9pm with an exclusive > first chance to hear the album being played in its > entirety. "EXCLUSIVE first chance" only if you: a) Don't have internet access b) Don't have a CD burner. Who are they trying to kid? They've obviously taken a leaf out of "A Current Affair" and the ilk's trashiness, by claiming "exclusiveness". > It was sent in by one Nick Verso who isn't on the > list > (tsk tsk). Melbourne people - GO! And let everyone > know about OzTori www.oztori.org so we can boost > membership! Yeah, we need more lemmings on this list... Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:20:47 +1000 From: Simon Metcalf Subject: [oztori] Calling Geoff from Melbourne!! Hi Geoff!! Are you still doing trades in Tori bootlegs? I got some quite a while ago and I'd like to get some more! Do you still have your Tori trade page up? Hope to hear from you! Cheers, Simon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:53:35 +0000 From: "black-winged roses" Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! Absolutely! I've just got to find someone else who will go with me who can drive! *************** "God is dead, Marx is dead and I'm not feeling too good either" http://www.geocities.com/sarahvox - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "kyla@kyla.left.the-pla.net" Reply-To: To: Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:58:16 +1000 Ok, I'm definately going :) Anyone else? - Kyla http://kyla.left.the-pla.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > Tori videos and live footage will be played on our > monitors all night. She might not be touring here but > we can still rock on in her honour! :) > > It was sent in by one Nick Verso who isn't on the list > (tsk tsk). Melbourne people - GO! And let everyone > know about OzTori www.oztori.org so we can boost > membership! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 04:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] My doctor says, "you just took it to the limit" black-winged roses wrote: > Absolutely! I've just got to find someone else who > will go with me who > can drive! To quote the ever-wonderful Ms. Siobhan Fahey, "I CAN DRIVE!" Although... I have to work the next day, and I live probably 90 minutes away, so it's a classic case of "could I be bothered". I'll go if somebody can forge me a medical certificate for the next day ;) We need a doctor on this list... Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 3 Sep 2001 04:56:17 -0700 From: Zac Ariel Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Madonna & Tori tour On Mon, 03 September 2001, Nathan R wrote: > LOL - that has got to be the most whacked-out thought > I have had yet! ...haven't you taken your medication recently? zac ================================================== zac ariel - web junkie m: 0414 229 299 e: zac@bit.net.au p/w: zac.home.dhs.org b/w: www.level21.net ================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:55:51 +1000 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Madonna Gotta luv Mads...if she does tour I am sooo there! Then again, so will most of Melbourne's gay community! LOL... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hill, Renee" To: "Oztori (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: [oztori] OT: Madonna > !!!!! > > Currently being discussed (and will be decided upon soon) is Madonna's > drowned world tour coming to OZ! Looks very likely... can't wait. I'm going > to be there with bells on. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:59:09 +1000 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! like Duh! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachael..." To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > yep, > > will try and make it... Dylan? > > rachael > xxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > kyla@kyla.left.the-pla.net > Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 2:58 PM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > Ok, I'm definately going :) > Anyone else? > > > - Kyla > http://kyla.left.the-pla.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:52 PM > Subject: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > Tori videos and live footage will be played on our > > monitors all night. She might not be touring here but > > we can still rock on in her honour! :) > > > > It was sent in by one Nick Verso who isn't on the list > > (tsk tsk). Melbourne people - GO! And let everyone > > know about OzTori www.oztori.org so we can boost > > membership! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:12:45 +1000 From: "Rachael..." Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! as this is 3 days before my birthday, i was kinda thinking maybe i might have a small birthday bash there.... nilay, andrew, you gonna come too? rachael xxx - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dylan Plant Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 10:59 PM To: Rachael...; oztori@smoe.org Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! like Duh! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachael..." To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > yep, > > will try and make it... Dylan? > > rachael > xxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > kyla@kyla.left.the-pla.net > Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 2:58 PM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > Ok, I'm definately going :) > Anyone else? > > > - Kyla > http://kyla.left.the-pla.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:52 PM > Subject: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > Tori videos and live footage will be played on our > > monitors all night. She might not be touring here but > > we can still rock on in her honour! :) > > > > It was sent in by one Nick Verso who isn't on the list > > (tsk tsk). Melbourne people - GO! And let everyone > > know about OzTori www.oztori.org so we can boost > > membership! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 06:25:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Cool Tori interview... ...from UK "Attitude" magazine posted on the dent: http://www.thedent.com./attitude0901.html I was particularly intrigued by this q'n to Tori: - ------------------------------------------------------- 19. How many Kate Bush records do you own? Brian Chambers, Brixton T: Well I owned two, which are of course "Hounds of Love" and the one after, "The Sensual World". I really love those two. Someone gave me "The Red Shoes", but then someone else stole it. People come to my beach house in Miami and some things go and some things arrive. Where did that ceramic squirrel come from? I have three homes - one two hours from Miami, the main one in Cornwall and one in Ireland. I believe in odd numbers: 3 pianos, 3 houses, 1 man, 1 baby. But two men would be good. Three would be better. Becuase it you weren't around he could never say "oh, but she must be with..." - ------------------------------------------------------- Nice to see how she weasled her way out of that one. I'm positive she's heard more than just HoL and TSW. How could she not? Nathan. . Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 13:29:55 From: "Elissa Chrystal" Subject: [oztori] OT Hi All If Geoff Lamble is still on the list can he email me please. Thanks Elissa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:40:29 +1000 From: "Darwin Clan" Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! *dons bells* Of course I'll be there!! it sounds M-a-D... yay Tori drinkathon here we come! ~Andrew~ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Rachael... Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 11:13 PM To: oztori@smoe.org Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! as this is 3 days before my birthday, i was kinda thinking maybe i might have a small birthday bash there.... nilay, andrew, you gonna come too? rachael xxx - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dylan Plant Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 10:59 PM To: Rachael...; oztori@smoe.org Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! like Duh! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachael..." To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > yep, > > will try and make it... Dylan? > > rachael > xxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > kyla@kyla.left.the-pla.net > Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 2:58 PM > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > Ok, I'm definately going :) > Anyone else? > > > - Kyla > http://kyla.left.the-pla.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:52 PM > Subject: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > Tori videos and live footage will be played on our > > monitors all night. She might not be touring here but > > we can still rock on in her honour! :) > > > > It was sent in by one Nick Verso who isn't on the list > > (tsk tsk). Melbourne people - GO! And let everyone > > know about OzTori www.oztori.org so we can boost > > membership! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:03:57 +1000 From: "Nerida Hooykaas" Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Madonna OOOOHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY GGGGGOOOOOOODDDD > > Currently being discussed (and will be decided upon > > soon) is Madonna's > > drowned world tour coming to OZ! Looks very > > likely... can't wait. I'm going > > to be there with bells on. > > Oohh yes, me too! And I know that if she doesn't go to > Brisbane that Neri will come to the Sydney show. > Perhaps the ticketbuyers should all group together and > we can go as a group? OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!! Ummm.....How LIKELY is this??!!!!?!! *is the biggest Madonna fan on the planet* !!!!!!!! So, like, I'm trying not to get TOO excited here...but OH MY GOD!!!! I watched the DWT the other night and was so blown away and I was like so pissed she wasn't coming here....so this had better happen damnit! and you betcha I'll be comin' to Sydney! I don't care if I gotta hitch all the way!!!! LOL Love Neri =8O) P.S. I just got through like 130 emails....but I must admit, I didn't read half of them....I just replied to this one and deleted the rest! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 07:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] sexuality is interesting yes, i'm a teenager, and yes, i put that heading to give nathan something to rebutt. the hidden place single rocks! sweet jesus... and to think i used to hate bjork. time's a-ticking, and it's only three weeks till i leave for the US. if you haven't already contacted dan (handsomecabinboy dan) about getting something to tori, then contact me. if anyone wants stuff given to her i'm happy to do it. i still think some sort of group oztori thing would be cool, but i really need shows of support and ideas so i know if it's worth it. there was actually a reason for the header, and it's this: it strikes me that quite a few people on this list are pretty open in terms of their sexuality. do you think that it's simply the common bond of tori (free sexual beast that she is) that engenders an openness amongst us, or whether a larger proportion of tori fans are gay than is representitive of the general populus? or maybe tori fans are just more honest that most, meaning there are far less closetted gay toriphiles than, say, slayer fans (LMAO - a huge big vagina coming out of the sky, raining blood....). in general, do you see australia as an open place in terms of sexual preference? personally, i have to say canberra sucks in that regard. it seems pretty homophobic. sydney, however, is the most open place i've lived in, and i've been around lol. certainly, tori fans kinda have to be cool with sexual choices in order to apprieciate tori. i wonder, if she were to fight other forms of discrimination other than rape and homophobia, she would sway views in the tori community? TORI FOR PRESIDENT! LOL dan ===== It's been a while - since I could say that I wasn't addicted - It's been a while - Since I could say I loved myself as well - It's been a while - Since I've gone and fucked things up, just like I always do - It's been a while - But all that shit seems to disappear when I'm with you ---- (Staind) ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 00:14:39 +1000 From: "kyla@kyla.left.the-pla.net" Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! maybe we should all... meet up. *wink* - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachael..." To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:12 PM Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > as this is 3 days before my birthday, i was kinda thinking maybe i might > have a small birthday bash there.... > > nilay, andrew, you gonna come too? > > rachael > xxx > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Dylan Plant > Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 10:59 PM > To: Rachael...; oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > like Duh! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rachael..." > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:01 PM > Subject: RE: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > > yep, > > > > will try and make it... Dylan? > > > > rachael > > xxx > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > > kyla@kyla.left.the-pla.net > > Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 2:58 PM > > To: oztori@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > > > > Ok, I'm definately going :) > > Anyone else? > > > > > > - Kyla > > http://kyla.left.the-pla.net > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daniel" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:52 PM > > Subject: [oztori] Melbourne People Alert! > > > > > Tori videos and live footage will be played on our > > > monitors all night. She might not be touring here but > > > we can still rock on in her honour! :) > > > > > > It was sent in by one Nick Verso who isn't on the list > > > (tsk tsk). Melbourne people - GO! And let everyone > > > know about OzTori www.oztori.org so we can boost > > > membership! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:37:08 +1000 From: Daniel Hirning Subject: Re: [oztori] sexuality is interesting Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 12:02:08 AM, Dan wrote: DS> the hidden place single rocks! sweet jesus... and to think i used DS> to hate bjork. yes, yes it does. as does the album (which i still don't have! CURSE HMV) DS> there was actually a reason for the header, and it's this: it DS> strikes me that quite a few people on this list are pretty open in DS> terms of their sexuality. do you think that it's simply the common DS> bond of tori (free sexual beast that she is) that engenders an DS> openness amongst us, or whether a larger proportion of tori fans DS> are gay than is representitive of the general populus? or maybe DS> tori fans are just more honest that most, meaning there are far DS> less closetted gay toriphiles than, say, slayer fans (LMAO - a DS> huge big vagina coming out of the sky, raining blood....). I think it comes down to the fact that for some *unknown* reason there is a larger proportion of tori fans that are gay then straight. Therefore, its the straight people that are 'outnumbered' and we have to 'learn to accept' them. once upon a time (about 2 yrs ago) someone on here asked how many gay/straight ppl there was... - i remember feeling extremely out of place..... (there was something like 3 straight males...) then again, maybe 'we' (us straight tori fans) are just more open to the idea of gay people - my 2 best friends in the whole world are both gay... then again maybe i was just trying to escape the male orientated engineering world and went to the other extreme - getting gay friends.. (though i'm quite certain there *is* gay engineers ... - its just like straight tori fans... - they're bloody rare...) DS> in general, do you see australia as an open place in DS> terms of sexual preference? personally, i have to say DS> canberra sucks in that regard. it seems pretty DS> homophobic. sydney, however, is the most open place DS> i've lived in, and i've been around lol. certainly, DS> tori fans kinda have to be cool with sexual choices in DS> order to apprieciate tori. i wonder, if she were to DS> fight other forms of discrimination other than rape DS> and homophobia, she would sway views in the tori DS> community? i really don't think its got anything to do with toris opinion on the matter... - she just for some reason attracts gays! bit like kylie does.... - (I can't stand kylie - if i ever see her i will shoot her - her AND madonna... hate her as well) dan.the.man. dan@danhirning.com www.danhirning.com 8:31 am, 4/09/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 21:06:46 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] tori pics - recent http://www.oneway.com/ewf/earsfeet/ewfpics/londonmg1.jpg http://www.oneway.com/ewf/earsfeet/ewfpics/londonmg3.jpg http://www.oneway.com/ewf/earsfeet/ewfpics/londonmg4.jpg http://www.oneway.com/ewf/earsfeet/ewfpics/london3.jpg she looks like she's lost a LOT of weight... but her head still looks good ;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:20:30 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: [oztori] holds out wrist... ... you may all slap me on my wrist for sending a oneliner and not deleting the unnecessary stuff... I realised as soon as I had pressed 'send'... Or I can offer myself for sacrifice... X Lavs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:29:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: Re: [oztori] holds out wrist... you have such a sexy wrist, Lavs... ;) ===== It's been a while - since I could say that I wasn't addicted - It's been a while - Since I could say I loved myself as well - It's been a while - Since I've gone and fucked things up, just like I always do - It's been a while - But all that shit seems to disappear when I'm with you ---- (Staind) ____________________________ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:38:13 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] holds out wrist... > you have such a sexy wrist, Lavs... ;) You after a bit of S&M? Perhaps wrist was a euphemism...? ;) X Lavs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:13:01 +1000 From: "li" Subject: Re: [oztori] sexuality is interesting I think I subconsciously assume that every male on this list is gay...:) - ---------- > From: Daniel Hirning > To: oztori@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [oztori] sexuality is interesting > Date: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 8:37 > > Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 12:02:08 AM, Dan wrote: > > DS> the hidden place single rocks! sweet jesus... and to think i used > DS> to hate bjork. > > yes, yes it does. > > as does the album (which i still don't have! CURSE HMV) > > DS> there was actually a reason for the header, and it's this: it > DS> strikes me that quite a few people on this list are pretty open in > DS> terms of their sexuality. do you think that it's simply the common > DS> bond of tori (free sexual beast that she is) that engenders an > DS> openness amongst us, or whether a larger proportion of tori fans > DS> are gay than is representitive of the general populus? or maybe > DS> tori fans are just more honest that most, meaning there are far > DS> less closetted gay toriphiles than, say, slayer fans (LMAO - a > DS> huge big vagina coming out of the sky, raining blood....). > > I think it comes down to the fact that for some *unknown* reason there > is a larger proportion of tori fans that are gay then straight. > > Therefore, its the straight people that are 'outnumbered' and we have > to 'learn to accept' them. > > once upon a time (about 2 yrs ago) someone on here asked how many > gay/straight ppl there was... - i remember feeling extremely out of > place..... (there was something like 3 straight males...) > > then again, maybe 'we' (us straight tori fans) are just more open to > the idea of gay people - my 2 best friends in the whole world are both > gay... then again maybe i was just trying to escape the male > orientated engineering world and went to the other extreme - getting > gay friends.. (though i'm quite certain there *is* gay engineers ... - > its just like straight tori fans... - they're bloody rare...) > > DS> in general, do you see australia as an open place in > DS> terms of sexual preference? personally, i have to say > DS> canberra sucks in that regard. it seems pretty > DS> homophobic. sydney, however, is the most open place > DS> i've lived in, and i've been around lol. certainly, > DS> tori fans kinda have to be cool with sexual choices in > DS> order to apprieciate tori. i wonder, if she were to > DS> fight other forms of discrimination other than rape > DS> and homophobia, she would sway views in the tori > DS> community? > > i really don't think its got anything to do with toris opinion on the > matter... - she just for some reason attracts gays! > > bit like kylie does.... - (I can't stand kylie - if i ever see her i > will shoot her - her AND madonna... hate her as well) > > dan.the.man. > dan@danhirning.com > www.danhirning.com > 8:31 am, 4/09/2001 ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #133 ****************************