From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #115 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Thursday, August 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new resident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! [Na] Re: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new resident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! [Na] RE: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new res ident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! ["Hill, Renee" <] [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) ["Hill, Renee" ] Re: [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) ["Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new resident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! I'm with Neri here. Too many people are slagging off an album they haven't heard in its entirity. Talk about jumping the gun. And for Tori doing bad b-sides - I don't bloody think so. Hello Cooling, Humpty Dumpty, Blue Rain Coat, Thankyou, Love Song, - --- Nerida Hooykaas wrote: > ok I just have some advice for you daniel h....get > yer head outta yer arse > and appreciate Tori's creativity here! *braces > herself for flaming* my god! > how can you say that this release has no > creativity!! just because Tori > hasn't written these songs and they aren't "Tori's > Songs" doesn't mean that > what she has done isn't art....whether you like it > or not, surely you can > appreciate the message she is trying to get across > here....you don't have to > like art or creativity to appreciate it.. one should > be able to appreciate > this album for it's message..if not just for BC '97 > alone! > > > "the scariest thing about Bonnie and Clyde is that > half of the world is > snapping it's fingers and has empathy for this man > who is butchering his > wife. As she lies bleeding half the world is dancing > to this, oblivious, > with blood on their sneakers. When you murder your > wife, you can't control > who befriends her..." > > > I also highly doubt the rumours that are circulating > about Tori doing this > to get out of her contract with Atlantic..I refuse > to believe that Tori > would put out "crap" as some people have called SLG, > just to get out of a > contract....she just wouldn't sell out...doesn't > seem like something that is > in Tori's nature...she has also spoken about her > daughter a lot, as one of > the reasons for doing this album...because of how > women are sometimes > portrayed in songs or society in general..she wants > Natashya to grow up > knowing she has a voice too...how can that be a sell > out? > > Anyways, just my two cents > > Neri =8O) ===== - - intermission - http://www.torn-apart.net/intermission/ - - Proud Amberholic - http://amberholics.amberbenson.net - - W/A lurve - http://washippers.envy.nu Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:00:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Natty Subject: Re: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new resident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! I'm with Neri here. Too many people are slagging off an album they haven't heard in its entirity. Talk about jumping the gun. It's getting a lil too Dent Forum-ish in here, me thinks. Patience is a virtue: listen to the album *first*, and then judge. As for Bjork's new album, I couldn't give a crap. Not interested. I want Tori. Natty ===== - - intermission - http://www.torn-apart.net/intermission/ - - Proud Amberholic - http://amberholics.amberbenson.net - - W/A lurve - http://washippers.envy.nu Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:12:17 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: RE: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new res ident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! i've heard the whole album - and here's my judgement: it's fantastic. it's obviously not the masterpiece pele is, but then what could be (except for choirgirl, which comes pretty damn close IMHO)... but it is a really pretty album. it is NOT bad, and Tori's voice is just getting better and better :) - -----Original Message----- From: Natty [mailto:velvet_hologram@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2001 15:00 To: oztori@smoe.org Subject: Re: [oztori] Nathan regrettably hands over the "claws" to new resident oztori bitch, Daniel Hirning! I'm with Neri here. Too many people are slagging off an album they haven't heard in its entirity. Talk about jumping the gun. It's getting a lil too Dent Forum-ish in here, me thinks. Patience is a virtue: listen to the album *first*, and then judge. As for Bjork's new album, I couldn't give a crap. Not interested. I want Tori. Natty ===== - - intermission - http://www.torn-apart.net/intermission/ - - Proud Amberholic - http://amberholics.amberbenson.net - - W/A lurve - http://washippers.envy.nu Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:37:56 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) Jason has again come to our rescue, people! The hall needed the money by this afternoon (they tell me this TODAY!!!) and Jason has valiantly come to the rescue, driving the money and his precious self all the way out to guildford. a communal "we love you jason" would be appreciated! :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:51:15 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: [oztori] shock horror, Tori! Another one agreeing with Neri. I mean, I don't think you have to like everything Tori does, but I do think that she (Tori) isn't just whacking out her final album of her Atlantic contract, regardless of quality, does have a decent fan base (in the states at least - what would be refered to as 'cult following') and does care about the music and her fans. As Renee has shown, Warner do have a part to play in Tori coming down under. I also think pregnancy halted any ideas of her touring for Venus at least, maybe even BFP (jut figments of my imagination). As I said before I think this is an album that you will have to be aroudn for a while 'to get it', and I think the SLG vid adds a lot to the song, so I am anticipating the other vids to do the same... if only there was a vid for every one! Jamina typed: >- that is so funnny, ok, and theres a link in the email that points to - >subscribe to newsletter, WTF subscribe to what you're reading- that was a >clever link to add You'll also notice in said emails something about passing it on to a friend. so I daresay thsi link is for if said friend wants to join. (should I ahve written 'right said friend'?) X Lavs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:52:55 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) Definately! A BIG thanks to Jason, you are quite welcome to recoup these costs off the days profits in my book. That's a bit rude only telling you today that they wanted the money!!! X Lavs - ----- Original Message ----- From: Hill, Renee To: Aussie Ears With Feet (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) > Jason has again come to our rescue, people! The hall needed the money by > this afternoon (they tell me this TODAY!!!) and Jason has valiantly come to > the rescue, driving the money and his precious self all the way out to > guildford. > > a communal "we love you jason" would be appreciated! :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:26:23 +1000 From: "li" Subject: Re: [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) we love you jason!! - ---------- > From: Hill, Renee > To: Aussie Ears With Feet (E-mail) > Subject: [oztori] All praise Jason (re: sydney party) > Date: Thursday, 23 August 2001 15:37 > > Jason has again come to our rescue, people! The hall needed the money by > this afternoon (they tell me this TODAY!!!) and Jason has valiantly come to > the rescue, driving the money and his precious self all the way out to > guildford. > > a communal "we love you jason" would be appreciated! :) ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #115 ****************************