From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V1 #58 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Sunday, July 1 2001 Volume 01 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] nathan the elephant packed his trunk and... [=?iso-8859-1?q?Dani] Re: [oztori] got a full tank and some chips ["Rachael..." ] [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! [Nathan] [oztori] Lyrics to the covers on SLG [Nathan R ] RE: [oztori] strange little bitches ["Dan" ] [oztori] i need a fix, 'cause i'm going down [=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] nathan the elephant packed his trunk and... > Andy D penned: > > oh I think I should get back to > > bed. Instead I have to take > > my Mum grocery shopping. Oh joy, joy. > > Let's hope you don't run out of petrol this time ;) wow talk about memory of an elephant! lol > "I know I don't fit in. I know I don't understand > anything and I don't belong anywhere. But I love > people, I am really fucked up, but I really love > people. I'm saying, is that alright? And I just want > people to say, 'Yeah, it's alright...'" - Siobhan > Fahey what a bizarre quote. from a very bizarre woman. hooray! its almost up there with bjork's quote about having sex with 87 peacocks... in actual important news - I emailed Here For Life as I said and the guy there has been kind enough to send me the here for life logo for us to splodge all over the place on our advertising. people who want a copy, let me know and i'll pass it on! dan ;) ===== people honk at me i shake my fist sometimes give them the finger i don't know why i always lie to you - - jane siberry "barkis is willing" Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:16:58 +1000 From: "Rachael..." Subject: Re: [oztori] got a full tank and some chips > Andy D penned: > > oh I think I should get back to > > bed. Instead I have to take > > my Mum grocery shopping. Oh joy, joy. > > Let's hope you don't run out of petrol this time ;) yeah, you were meant to be in the city with us!! grr :) love Rachael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:33:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] pink elephants and lemonade... Daniel Gee wrote: > what a bizarre quote. from a very bizarre woman. > hooray! its almost up there with bjork's quote about > having sex with 87 peacocks... I've not read that one.. Care to enlighten us? Maybe she meant 99 luftballons? Nathan. . Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 00:47:32 +0800 From: "ennui" Subject: [oztori] RE: oztori-digest V1 #52 Hello my preciousss's - > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:42:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nathan R > Subject: [oztori] How many fucking John's do we now have on this list?! > > > PS - ennui, where the hell have you disappeared off > to? Oh be still my palpitating heart! Is this a faint tremor of love's own jackhammering construction work I feel? Or perhaps a serious coronary arrhythmia for which I should seek immediate medical attention? Worry not - Doctor Nathan is on the case and there's luuurrve on your chart! hahahahehehdehehehehchchvhvnhg*cough**choke* - oh gawd, I'm sorry, it's nice to be missed :) You know, I really don't have anything to say, and I just haven't felt like checking my mail. I think I may just leave for a bit and write a book about living with beavers and plotting the down-fall of the government. Then everyone may quote me when they're looking to make sweeping generalisations about the relative state of human existence as it applies to bucktooth rodents and hating speeding tickets. Now I'm really sure that I don't have anything to say. Oh.. maybe just: Dan (the big Gee) - I've got the original Photoshop image if you'd like it or I'll just delete the text and send to you as a JPG? (hey I'm just thinking - the Big Geese.. ;) And to all those snivelling Tools who missed out on tickets - well you can stick it up your 4degrees for all I care! ;) We don't even get a concert over here so be grateful - I think I might go and kick a beaver now (if you got that reference straight away you doing well, but I might just add - "corr, that Burnside's not half a looker is'e?! gives Sean Connery a run for his money in 'is great big trench coat") That's really all. I don't know anything new about Tori, never even met the gezza before - honest guv! ennui [APFiance at large] "What if all ponds were shallow? Would it not react on the minds of men?" H.D.T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! Strange Little Girls, for those of you who don't already know, is a covers album, containing covres of the following: 97 Bonnie and Clyde - Eminem Heart of Gold - Neil Young Raining Blood - Slayer I'm Not in Love - 10cc New Age - Velvet Underground Strange Little Girl - Stranglers Enjoy the Silence - Depeche Mode Rattlesnakes - Llyod Cole Time - Tom Waits Real Men - Joe Jackson Happiness is a Warm Gun - Beatles Copied from the Dent's news page http://thedent.com/torimain.html: The wait for details about Tori's new album is over! The Sunday, July 1, 2001 edition of the Los Angeles Times includes an article about the new Tori album. Toriphile jason/shaggy has received this edition already and has sent me the article. You can read it here. The photo you see to the right is from that same article. Yes, that is Tori with short, dark hair! The article explains that with Strange Little Girls, Tori has "taken songs written and originally sung by men and, without substantial rewriting, created a female character for each. The album includes photos of Amos portraying each woman." The photo you see to the right (which you can see bigger here) is likely one of these photos. I don't think this is Tori's new look! Anyway, we now know that the new album features covers, but done in a very interesting and innovative way. I will add more about this to my Strange Little Girls page as the situation develops! - ---------------------------------- Interesting. I probably would prefer an album of new material myself, but I'm intrigued as to what the covers will sound like. Hopefully not shit! lol. Nathan. . Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] Lyrics to the covers on SLG ...have been posted on this Dent forum thread: http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?s=37d4963b3cb0af9d3361ea9a4ac8d77d&threadid=56787 Nathan. . Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:44:13 +1000 From: "Rachael..." Subject: Re: [oztori] Lyrics to the covers on SLG - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan R" To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: [oztori] Lyrics to the covers on SLG > ...have been posted on this Dent forum thread: > > http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?s=37d4963b3cb0af9d3361ea9a4ac8d77d&th readid=56787 > > Nathan. erm.. have i missed something...? is this meant to be a joke, or is Stangle Little Girls just a cover album...? Rachael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:48:33 +1000 From: "Rachael..." Subject: Re: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! am i the only one who's feels slighty let down/pissed off about this...? i think the hair cut sucks as well. sorry, im just in a bad mood today. rachael - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan R" To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! > Strange Little Girls, for those of you who don't > already know, is a covers album, containing covres of > the following: > > 97 Bonnie and Clyde - Eminem > Heart of Gold - Neil Young > Raining Blood - Slayer > I'm Not in Love - 10cc > New Age - Velvet Underground > Strange Little Girl - Stranglers > Enjoy the Silence - Depeche Mode > Rattlesnakes - Llyod Cole > Time - Tom Waits > Real Men - Joe Jackson > Happiness is a Warm Gun - Beatles > > > Copied from the Dent's news page > http://thedent.com/torimain.html: > > The wait for details about Tori's new album is over! > The Sunday, July 1, 2001 edition of the Los Angeles > Times includes an article about the new Tori album. > > Toriphile jason/shaggy has received this edition > already and has sent me the article. You can read it > here. The photo you see to the right is from that same > article. Yes, that is Tori with short, dark hair! The > article explains that with Strange Little Girls, Tori > has "taken songs written and originally sung by men > and, without substantial rewriting, created a female > character for each. The album includes photos of Amos > portraying each woman." The photo you see to the right > (which you can see bigger here) is likely one of these > photos. I don't think this is Tori's new look! Anyway, > we now know that the new album features covers, but > done in a very interesting and innovative way. I will > add more about this to my Strange Little Girls page as > the situation develops! > > ---------------------------------- > > Interesting. I probably would prefer an album of new > material myself, but I'm intrigued as to what the > covers will sound like. Hopefully not shit! lol. > > > Nathan. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:03:11 +1000 From: "Kate Findlay" Subject: Re: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! > am i the only one who's feels slighty let down/pissed off about this...? no not at all. I'm pissed off. I was actually in a bad mood before checking my email - hence the reason i checked it - to get me in a better mood - and now i find this out and i'm just thinking "well that's fucking fantastic now isn't it" grrrrrr kate - --- "Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again" - Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:35:12 +1000 From: "Julie Cesario" Subject: Re: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! same ppls :( not a happy camper....i was also in a shit mood when i came on here and now well now i'm incredibly pissed off!!!!!!!! been having a fucking bad year and although this isn't a major thing in my life i can't believe what a sell out she is becoming... sorry if i sound abrupt i had a car accident yesterday and am feeling the effects of it today... talk later ppls Julie - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate Findlay To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! > > am i the only one who's feels slighty let down/pissed off about this...? > > no not at all. I'm pissed off. I was actually in a bad mood before > checking my email - hence the reason i checked it - to get me in a > better mood - and now i find this out and i'm just thinking "well > that's fucking fantastic now isn't it" > > grrrrrr > > kate > --- > "Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again" - Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:15:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan R Subject: [oztori] strange little bitches Julie said: > i can't believe what a sell out she is becoming... Yeah.. It does look that way at times (although I think the Alanis tour was the lowest stoop myself)... BUT, we've not heard the SLG songs yet, so I don't think we can comment until then. Apparently they are covers done in a *different* way though - like Tori re-interpreting them, rather than just a straightforward cover. I think it could be quite interesting... but yeah, 100% new material would have been nice. Some say this is the last album Tori has to do for her contract with Atlantic, and if a covers album gets her out of it nice and easily, then so be it. 'Tis not the end of the world (yet), dearies... Although you can already predict that the 'so why did you re-do a song of Eminem's?' will become the focus of 99.9% of press interviews around the time of SLG's release... It will become the new 'so tell us a bit about your rape/miscarriage' staple question :( *yawn* Nathan. . Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:46:01 +1000 From: "Dan" Subject: RE: [oztori] strange little bitches Julie said: > i can't believe what a sell out she is becoming... It is, but an album. Might I make the suggestion that Tori's covers in the past have been reasonably decent? As far as information goes, have we all not had the pleasurable experience of finding out something published on-line isn't true at all? Tori is Tori, an album is an album. People complain that there arent any new albums, you get one, and you complain about that as well. Anyone for coffee? As I think a few of us need to wake up slightly... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 06:52:44 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] i need a fix, 'cause i'm going down hey all. i'm in a GOOD mood [unlike others who have found out the news] so, while a little bizarre and quite clearly a contractual obligation album of sorts, it could be interesting. she's not actually COVERING the songs is my understanding...just using the melody and song's theme in each case so it could still be a tori album. while initially i thought that her cover of "heart of gold" could be cool...it could also be absolutely terrible. but i don't think it will be. it'd be interesting to hear "Happiness is a warm gun". The Breeders cover that on their album "Pod" [1990] and i think its pretty slick [slick=cool. nothing i've heard that's been done by steve albini actually sounds slick]. i personally think that the "female" in the song is the gun...so we'll have to see. or maybe the gun in the song is female. either way... one super big omg problem [bigger than the eminem factor at this point in time] WHAT THE F*CK IS SHE DOING COVERING THAT SHITE 10CC SONG!!! It's TERRIBLE!!! I'm sure is a DEFINITE case of the cover will be better...but only because its Tori doing it, i'm sure. anyways...we'll just see. I just hope i don't so a smashing pumpkins on tozza when i hear it [ie - go and sell all my SP items because they just aren't interesting any more, like i did when Machina was released. although i did keep Adore [for personal reasons] but rarely listen to it. i only kept it for "For Martha" and "Blank Page" actually. anyways...]. if you see "scarydan" selling stuff on ebay, its me having lost all faith in tozza. either that or i'm suddenly in horrible debt. but that wont happen. that won't happen. that won't happen. *repeat mantra* bang bang, shoot shoot dan ;) ===== people honk at me i shake my fist sometimes give them the finger i don't know why i always lie to you - - jane siberry "barkis is willing" Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:56:19 +1000 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] News on Strange Little Girls: Don't shoot the messenger! Oh my... suddenly I'm hating the idea of this new album, which is a major disappointment, as I was sooo looking forward to it. But a few things do spring to mind... Carnival was a cover, that Tori re-worked. Taht inspires a little hope doesn't it??? Perhaps it's the haircut that's putting me off the most, but I'm hoping it's just a wig to portray one of the characters (which is an interesting slant on things). I mean, a version of "I'm Not in Love" from the pov of a girl to Satan? Taht inspires hope too doesn't it? please, somebody be positive and pick me up, because I don't think I can do it... Perhaps it's also because it's a covers album that doesn't do any of the covers we've wanted Tori to do... Off to read quotes from the good ol days of LE/UTP at RDTRN... X Lavs (Lavenda 1, primary adjunct of dominatrix Glenn) ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.crosswinds.net/~tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.envy.nu/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 07:00:42 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] realisation hits... hey all. just still on the Breeders thing...i'd rather Tori did a cover of "do you love me now"...the version on the "divine hammer" EP with trent as guest vocalist. for those who don't have the divine hammer EP, its basically some guy echoing kim's vocals in places. and its less heavy-thick on the guitars...i love that song. but i digress. actually, i'd like tori to cover "divine hammer" too that'd be cool...i can see it becoming sorta "the wrong band"-ish! yay! new thread : what song[s] do you think tori should cover, and how? I also think she could have fun with bjork's "big time sensuality". but the real reason i had to send this email : you know how tozza said that she'd be touring in a way she hasn't toured in a long time? well, she's gonna tour solo at the piano playing covers like she used to before she got signed! lol!!! i dunno about the dresses and hair and gay bars, but you never know... also, on the "new look" tori - i don't think thats THE tori "look" of 2001...i think its just one of the character pics...i hope... you've loved me before, dan ;) ===== people honk at me i shake my fist sometimes give them the finger i don't know why i always lie to you - - jane siberry "barkis is willing" Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 14:01:01 +0800 From: "Angela Ho" Subject: Re: [oztori] strange little bitches > i have to admit that when i first heard what was on the album, i was a > little like "eh?" > > but i went to read the article (go do it folks!), and i don't think it is > all that bad -- quite the contrary. she is re-interpreting these songs from > a female perspective. i'm always interested in alternative interpretations / > perspectives, so at the very least, it will be interesting to see what spins > she adds. so i'm still looking forward to the new album. and it isn't *just* > a covers album. the idea is pretty original in my opinion. > > and on the bright side, if y'all expect to hate it, you are bound to love > it, right? > > angela ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 07:25:28 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel?= Subject: [oztori] from neri... hi all. neri's posts aren't going through and wants everyone to go here http://thedent.com/latimes070101.html and READ IT and STOP WEEPING. it's not a "COVERS" album people! there is hope ;) dan ;) ===== people honk at me i shake my fist sometimes give them the finger i don't know why i always lie to you - - jane siberry "barkis is willing" Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V1 #58 ***************************