From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V7 #94 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Thursday, September 1 2005 Volume 07 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 ["Steve Fontenot" ] OV: Katrina (non dels-related) ["Ed Minton" ] Re: OV: OT: Katrina [Andrew Douglas ] OV: Dels heard funnily ["Teresa Couch" ] RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 ["Elizabeth Osborne" ] Re: OV: troubles (no del content) [Andrew Douglas ] Re: OV: Dels heard funnily [Andrew Douglas ] OV: I'm LOL [DONNA DENSON ] Re: OV: Dels heard funnily [asgarciapl@aol.com] OV: Re: OT: Katrina ["Laura Rush" ] OV: Not politics - Not Dels [] OV: great musicians who make NO home - no dels [DONNA DENSON ] Re: OV: great musicians who make NO home - no dels [Alison Bellach ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:14:41 -0500 From: "Steve Fontenot" Subject: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 The lovely socialist-leaning leader of Venezuela -- who Pat Robertson announced we should murder -- offered to increase fuel production bound for the US via Citgo, which is essentially Venezuela's state-run petroleum corporation. He has previously made remarks about how poorly such a rich nation takes care of its workers. But this is a very concrete gesture of well-meaning toward the average American. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050829/pl_afp/usweathervenezuelaoil Canada is also on the aid bandwagon, but that's all I've personally read about. Speaking for myself, I don't see why the nation so set on going to war with so little help from worldwide powers should expect aid in this regard... or sympathy in the slightest, honestly. But that's just me, and I'm the liberal media. :oP >Have any other countries offered to lend a hand in this tragedy? I find >it odd that the US is always "right there" when these things happen in >other areas of the world (not that I always AGREE with that) and I have >not seen anything on the news at least that indicates we've been extended >a helping hand by anyone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:01:57 -0500 From: "Steven & Cindy Meyer" Subject: OV: OT: Katrina It's unfortunate that the so-called friends of the US and countries we have helped thru many disasters (and saved them in wars) can't figure out that natural disasters have nothing to do with politics. No doubt, the liberal media will (in their usual fashion) continue to paint it that way, both in this country and around the world, and people will continue to take the media spin as gospel instead of having an original thought, and people in the south will continue to suffer and die. Very sad indeed. (By the way, Dirk. I did hear yesterday that Germany offered help. E-mail me privately for donation websites to contact if you want to help personally.) Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:17:48 -0500 From: "Ed Minton" Subject: OV: Katrina (non dels-related) My thoughts and prayers are with all those whose lives have been affected by the storm. I'm afraid my favorite city may never be the same. Here's a couple of my favorite Nawlin's tunes: Louisiana 1927 What has happened down here is the winds have changed Clouds roll in from the north and it started to rain Rained real hard for a real long time There was six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline The river rose all day The river rose all night Some people got lost in the flood Some people got away all right Now the river broke through clear down to Plaquemines Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline Louisiana, Louisiana They're tryin' to wash us away They're tryin' to wash us away Louisiana, Louisiana They're tryin' to wash us away They're tryin' to wash us away President Coolidge come down in a railroad train With a little fat man with a note-pad in his hand The President say, "Little fat man, isn't it a shame what the river has done To this poor cracker's land" - -Randy Newman (check out Marcia Ball's rendition) Do You Know What It Means To Miss New Orleans? I never had this kinda feel in', With draggin' heart and brain a -reelin'. What's the matter? Here's the matter, Here's the thing that's really wrong with me: Do you know what it means to Miss New Orleans And miss it each night and day? I know I'm not wrong, the feelin's gettin' stronger The longer I stay away. Miss the moss covered vines, the tall sugar pines Where mockin' birds used to sing And I'd like to see the lazy Mississippi A hurry-in' in to spring. The moonlight on the bayou A creole tune that fills the air; I dream about magnolias in June And soon I'm wishin' that I was there. Do you know what it means to Miss New Orleans When that's where you left your heart. And there's something more: I miss the one I care for More than I miss New Orleans. - -Louis Armstrong ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:24:31 +0100 From: Andrew Douglas Subject: Re: OV: OT: Katrina I'm reluctant to add to a thread like this as, particularly in email communication, things come across badly. However (there's always a but!), Sean McCormack (State Dept. spokesman) said yesterday that it had offers of help from 10 to 12 foreign governments but that no decision had been reached about accepting the offers. I'd worry more about the lack of speed with which your state dept. makes it's decisions. On another note, the tsunami was a slightly different incident. The devastation was much more widespread and the number killed more immense, they were also much poorer countries. Let's not also forget that 30,000 children die everyday from poverty - the G8 didn't exactly go all the way to helping them in July. Money donated by countries to these disasters is often not new money but money that has been already set aside in the budget, they also tend to announce large gifts leading people to assume that money is given immediate, but in many cases the money is not given straight away and in some cases not given at all. On a final note, I am reluctant to send this. My heart goes out to the people there but to be quite honest it doesn't look like money is the real issue right now, those people need physical help and our prayers. I do hope this does not offend anyone, thinking of you all, andy Let's also not forget that On 1 Sep 2005, at 14:01, Steven & Cindy Meyer wrote: > It's unfortunate that the so-called friends of the US and countries > we have > helped thru many disasters (and saved them in wars) can't figure > out that > natural disasters have nothing to do with politics. No doubt, the > liberal > media will (in their usual fashion) continue to paint it that way, > both in > this country and around the world, and people will continue to take > the media > spin as gospel instead of having an original thought, and people in > the south > will continue to suffer and die. > > Very sad indeed. > > (By the way, Dirk. I did hear yesterday that Germany offered > help. E-mail me > privately for donation websites to contact if you want to help > personally.) > Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:14:15 -0400 From: "Teresa Couch" Subject: OV: Dels heard funnily While we were out grabbing a milkshake at the local Sonic drive-in the Sonic-radio station played "Roll to Me" which I thought was pretty funny since their car hops wear roller skates.......... I hope this is a post-worthy item. And I hope the band gets their residuals for stuff like this Kevin, if you're still peeking in now and then.......best wishes for a happy birthday next week. Adios, Del Amigos. Teresa "Ladywiz" www.mediawizard.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:40:33 -0500 From: "Elizabeth Osborne" Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 Please, with a post like this, don't insult the liberal media...you are not one of them. I didn't vote for George W. Bush and I hate Pat Robertson almost as much as I hate our beloved President but I think the innocent and old and poor and homeless AMERICANS deserve the same HELP as we have provided to the entire world. Excuse us for being such "a rich nation?" HELLO, not all of us are. Be kind, please. And you are not liberal, you are cruel - and heartless. Look at how many people have died here because they COULD NOT AFFORD TO LEAVE????!!! Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Fontenot" To: oppositeview@smoe.org Subject: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:14:41 -0500 The lovely socialist-leaning leader of Venezuela -- who Pat Robertson announced we should murder -- offered to increase fuel production bound for the US via Citgo, which is essentially Venezuela's state-run petroleum corporation. He has previously made remarks about how poorly such a rich nation takes care of its workers. But this is a very concrete gesture of well-meaning toward the average American. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050829/pl_afp/usweathervenezuelaoil Canada is also on the aid bandwagon, but that's all I've personally read about. Speaking for myself, I don't see why the nation so set on going to war with so little help from worldwide powers should expect aid in this regard... or sympathy in the slightest, honestly. But that's just me, and I'm the liberal media. :oP >Have any other countries offered to lend a hand in this tragedy? I >find >it odd that the US is always "right there" when these things happen >in >other areas of the world (not that I always AGREE with that) and I >have >not seen anything on the news at least that indicates we've been >extended >a helping hand by anyone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:22:47 -0700 From: Susan Gore Gardner Subject: OV: troubles (no del content) Jane, I did think of Mimi and was wondering how she was doing during all this trouble - I am sick at heart with the news that she was still there with her family... The television news reports are more disturbing each time I see them, and perhaps more mortifying than New Orleans flooding is the news that Gulfport & Biloxi (which I had visited on holiday as a teenager) have suffered such devastation. With New Orleans, it keeps coming to mind that this was almost surely to happen sooner or later, I mean the city is below sea level so it was the proverbial tragedy waiting to unfold. But the numerous other cities that were so damaged by the tsunami-like waves, they literally didn't see this coming. And Dirk, I appreciate your honesty when you said "There's so many people here in Germany who seem to think: It's the USA this time, not some3rd-world-country like India or so. THEY are the biggest and wealthiest nation in the world and want to be the world-police - so why do WE have to help THEM?" I/we almost expect that kind of reaction from many nations; we will handle this tragedy by ourselves and our citizens will learn from it & emerge wounded but stronger. Any help or condolences sent from other more kind nations is just that more appreciated. TTFN Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:26:00 -0500 From: "Steve Fontenot" Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 First off... I am, in fact, the liberal media. Second off, my email said nothing about who deserves anything. Note the word "expect." That's all it's about. Expectation of sympathy. It's not in the slightest a comment on trying to rank this tragedy compared to anything else. Thirdly, we are a rich nation. That statement does not mean that all people here are rich, but that our government has the resources to help itself. When there's an earthquake in Armenia or Iran, or tsunami victims in Sri Lanka and Indonesia, the governments of those nations don't have the means we do of responding. My great-grandfather's house stood a few miles from the beach in Gulfport until a few days ago. Don't think me unaffected by all this. But when the schoolyard bully stubs his toe, does anyone feel sorry for him? Many people in other nations will not be particularly sympathetic. That's all I'm saying. Finally, presuming you're an adult... don't try to make arguments with all caps. Doesn't this SENTENCE look ASININE? Plus, the real problem: You type AMERICANS like they are inherently more valuable than other people. That's certainly how our policymakers act, and they hide it behind religiosity and patriotism. It's insulting to the rest of the world, like so much of what we do. >From: "Elizabeth Osborne" >To: fontenos@hotmail.com, oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:40:33 -0500 > > >Please, with a post like this, don't insult the liberal media...you are not >one of them. I didn't vote for George W. Bush and I hate Pat Robertson >almost as much as I hate our beloved President but I think the innocent and >old and poor and homeless AMERICANS deserve the same HELP as we have >provided to the entire world. Excuse us for being such "a rich nation?" >HELLO, not all of us are. Be kind, please. And you are not liberal, you >are cruel - and heartless. Look at how many people have died here because >they COULD NOT AFFORD TO LEAVE????!!! > > > > > > > >Elizabeth > > >From: "Steve Fontenot" >To: oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:14:41 -0500 >The lovely socialist-leaning leader of Venezuela -- who Pat Robertson >announced we should murder -- offered to increase fuel production bound for >the US via Citgo, which is essentially Venezuela's state-run petroleum >corporation. > >He has previously made remarks about how poorly such a rich nation takes >care of its workers. But this is a very concrete gesture of well-meaning >toward the average American. > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050829/pl_afp/usweathervenezuelaoil > >Canada is also on the aid bandwagon, but that's all I've personally read >about. > >Speaking for myself, I don't see why the nation so set on going to war with >so little help from worldwide powers should >expect aid in this regard... or sympathy in the slightest, honestly. > >But that's just me, and I'm the liberal media. :oP > > >Have any other countries offered to lend a hand in this tragedy? I > >find > >it odd that the US is always "right there" when these things happen > >in > >other areas of the world (not that I always AGREE with that) and I > >have > >not seen anything on the news at least that indicates we've been > >extended > >a helping hand by anyone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:42:48 -0500 From: "Elizabeth Osborne" Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 No, you are not the liberal media. Yes, I am 35 years old and do not need to be chastised for the way that I TYPE. You did not pick up anything that I meant in my message. Believe me, I am not very proud of being an American in this day and age and hate the state of the world, as it is. Please....just go away.....you and I do not exist on the same page. You are probably some rich, Hummer driving, Bush loving, anti-abortion, anti-woman, etc. anyway. Oh, and nice touch replying with your insults to the entire list....classy! Sorry, STEVE, for the double-post, but I forgot to include the entire list for my reply, unlike you. THANKS!!!! Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Fontenot" To: lizorama@hotmail.com, oppositeview@smoe.org Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:26:00 -0500 First off... I am, in fact, the liberal media. Second off, my email said nothing about who deserves anything. Note the word "expect." That's all it's about. Expectation of sympathy. It's not in the slightest a comment on trying to rank this tragedy compared to anything else. Thirdly, we are a rich nation. That statement does not mean that all people here are rich, but that our government has the resources to help itself. When there's an earthquake in Armenia or Iran, or tsunami victims in Sri Lanka and Indonesia, the governments of those nations don't have the means we do of responding. My great-grandfather's house stood a few miles from the beach in Gulfport until a few days ago. Don't think me unaffected by all this. But when the schoolyard bully stubs his toe, does anyone feel sorry for him? Many people in other nations will not be particularly sympathetic. That's all I'm saying. Finally, presuming you're an adult... don't try to make arguments with all caps. Doesn't this SENTENCE look ASININE? Plus, the real problem: You type AMERICANS like they are inherently more valuable than other people. That's certainly how our policymakers act, and they hide it behind religiosity and patriotism. It's insulting to the rest of the world, like so much of what we do. >From: "Elizabeth Osborne" >To: fontenos@hotmail.com, oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:40:33 -0500 > > >Please, with a post like this, don't insult the liberal media...you >are not one of them. I didn't vote for George W. Bush and I hate >Pat Robertson almost as much as I hate our beloved President but I >think the innocent and old and poor and homeless AMERICANS deserve >the same HELP as we have provided to the entire world. Excuse us >for being such "a rich nation?" HELLO, not all of us are. Be kind, >please. And you are not liberal, you are cruel - and heartless. >Look at how many people have died here because they COULD NOT AFFORD >TO LEAVE????!!! > > > > > > > >Elizabeth > > >From: "Steve Fontenot" >To: oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:14:41 -0500 >The lovely socialist-leaning leader of Venezuela -- who Pat >Robertson announced we should murder -- offered to increase fuel >production bound for the US via Citgo, which is essentially >Venezuela's state-run petroleum corporation. > >He has previously made remarks about how poorly such a rich nation >takes care of its workers. But this is a very concrete gesture of >well-meaning toward the average American. > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050829/pl_afp/usweathervenezuelaoil > >Canada is also on the aid bandwagon, but that's all I've personally >read about. > >Speaking for myself, I don't see why the nation so set on going to >war with so little help from worldwide powers should >expect aid in this regard... or sympathy in the slightest, honestly. > >But that's just me, and I'm the liberal media. :oP > > >Have any other countries offered to lend a hand in this tragedy? I > >find > >it odd that the US is always "right there" when these things >happen > >in > >other areas of the world (not that I always AGREE with that) and I > >have > >not seen anything on the news at least that indicates we've been > >extended > >a helping hand by anyone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:47:12 -0400 From: asgarciapl@aol.com Subject: Re: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 deep breaths......deep breaths.....we all have had too much caffeine for one day.....just go "ummmmmmm.......ummmmmmmm." Del Amitri is a great band, huh?..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:46:39 -0500 From: "Elizabeth Osborne" Subject: RE: OV: troubles (no del content) Is it because we have a complete idiot for a president that it makes it acceptable for nobody to care about the folks in the south? Come on...sympathy is great, condolences are appreciated, but just because we are the USA does NOT make it acceptable to be ignored under such circumstances. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Gore Gardner To: Opposite View Subject: OV: troubles (no del content) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:22:47 -0700 Jane, I did think of Mimi and was wondering how she was doing during all this trouble - I am sick at heart with the news that she was still there with her family... The television news reports are more disturbing each time I see them, and perhaps more mortifying than New Orleans flooding is the news that Gulfport & Biloxi (which I had visited on holiday as a teenager) have suffered such devastation. With New Orleans, it keeps coming to mind that this was almost surely to happen sooner or later, I mean the city is below sea level so it was the proverbial tragedy waiting to unfold. But the numerous other cities that were so damaged by the tsunami-like waves, they literally didn't see this coming. And Dirk, I appreciate your honesty when you said "There's so many people here in Germany who seem to think: It's the USA this time, not some3rd-world-country like India or so. THEY are the biggest and wealthiest nation in the world and want to be the world-police - so why do WE have to help THEM?" I/we almost expect that kind of reaction from many nations; we will handle this tragedy by ourselves and our citizens will learn from it & emerge wounded but stronger. Any help or condolences sent from other more kind nations is just that more appreciated. TTFN Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:53:27 -0500 From: "Steve Fontenot" Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 Hey, your message insulting me as "cruel" and "heartless" was to the list, so I replied in kind. And yes, in fact, I am the liberal media. I am an editor for a newspaper in Texas. And you can clearly see I'm not conservative. Would a Bush-lover think the U.S. is not respected? I can assure you that no one in my profession drives a Hummer... there's no money in journalism, beyond all the other reasons. Indeed, the idea that someone whose ideas are unlike yours should just "go away" seems the more republican response at this point. I'm not sure what I didn't "pick up" in your original message. You wondered why no other countries help us. I showed you some that have offered to, and in addition offered several explanations why we don't get help. This makes me "cruel" and "heartless" apparently; accusations I'm used to in my working capacity when explaining unfortunate simple truths to people. Your reply has managed to avoid mentioning any of the points I made in the last email. If that doesn't mean you have no argument against my points, then go back, read them again, and say something. And now, I'm "anti-abortion, anti-woman" and all that... lovely. My insult of you related to something you typed. Yours are not only unfounded, but the "Bush-loving" bit has been directly contradicted. So, instead of closing with a Robertson-esque torrent of unfounded accusations, I'll pose this question to the list: Is it any wonder that Bush can win an election when this is how American liberals interact with each other? >From: "Elizabeth Osborne" >To: fontenos@hotmail.com >Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:38:20 -0500 > > >No, you are not the liberal media. Yes, I am 35 years old and do not need >to be chastised for the way that I TYPE. You did not pick up anything that >I meant in my message. Believe me, I am not very proud of being an >American in this day and age and hate the state of the world, as it is. >Please....just go away.....you and I do not exist on the same page. You >are probably some rich, Hummer driving, Bush loving, anti-abortion, >anti-woman, etc. anyway. Oh, and nice touch replying with your insults to >the entire list....classy! > > >Elizabeth > > >From: "Steve Fontenot" >To: lizorama@hotmail.com, oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:26:00 -0500 >First off... I am, in fact, the liberal media. > >Second off, my email said nothing about who deserves anything. Note the >word "expect." That's all it's about. Expectation of sympathy. It's not in >the slightest a comment on trying to rank this tragedy compared to anything >else. > >Thirdly, we are a rich nation. That statement does not mean that all people >here are rich, but that our government has the resources to help itself. >When there's an earthquake in Armenia or Iran, or tsunami victims in Sri >Lanka and Indonesia, the governments of those nations don't have the means >we do of responding. > >My great-grandfather's house stood a few miles from the >beach in Gulfport until a few days ago. Don't think me unaffected by all >this. But when the schoolyard bully stubs his toe, does anyone feel sorry >for him? Many people in other nations will not be particularly sympathetic. >That's all I'm saying. > >Finally, presuming you're an adult... don't try to make arguments with all >caps. Doesn't this SENTENCE look ASININE? Plus, the real problem: You type >AMERICANS like they are inherently more valuable than other people. That's >certainly how our policymakers act, and they hide it behind religiosity and >patriotism. It's insulting to the rest of the world, like so much of what >we do. > > >From: "Elizabeth Osborne" > >To: fontenos@hotmail.com, oppositeview@smoe.org > >Subject: RE: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 > >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:40:33 -0500 > > > > > >Please, with a post >like this, don't insult the liberal media...you > >are not one of them. I didn't vote for George W. Bush and I hate > >Pat Robertson almost as much as I hate our beloved President but I > >think the innocent and old and poor and homeless AMERICANS deserve > >the same HELP as we have provided to the entire world. Excuse us > >for being such "a rich nation?" HELLO, not all of us are. Be kind, > >please. And you are not liberal, you are cruel - and heartless. > >Look at how many people have died here because they COULD NOT AFFORD > >TO LEAVE????!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Elizabeth > > > > > >From: "Steve Fontenot" > >To: oppositeview@smoe.org > >Subject: OV: RE: oppositeview-digest V7 #93 > >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 >04:14:41 -0500 > >The lovely socialist-leaning leader of Venezuela -- who Pat > >Robertson announced we should murder -- offered to increase fuel > >production bound for the US via Citgo, which is essentially > >Venezuela's state-run petroleum corporation. > > > >He has previously made remarks about how poorly such a rich nation > >takes care of its workers. But this is a very concrete gesture of > >well-meaning toward the average American. > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050829/pl_afp/usweathervenezuelaoil > > > >Canada is also on the aid bandwagon, but that's all I've personally > >read about. > > > >Speaking for myself, I don't see why the nation so set on going to > >war with so little help from worldwide powers should > >expect aid in this regard... or sympathy in the slightest, >honestly. > > > >But that's just me, and I'm the liberal media. :oP > > > > >Have any other countries offered to lend a hand in this tragedy? I > > >find > > >it odd that the US is always "right there" when these things > >happen > > >in > > >other areas of the world (not that I always AGREE with that) and I > > >have > > >not seen anything on the news at least that indicates we've been > > >extended > > >a helping hand by anyone. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 09:56:40 -0700 From: "Darren Holmquist" Subject: OV: No more politics Folks, let's take the politics off-line to private emails, and not use the Del Amitri Discussion List to discuss politics. Thank you, Darren ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:20:28 +0100 From: Andrew Douglas Subject: Re: OV: troubles (no del content) You're not being ignored, as I previously said your state dept. said that 10-12 foreign nations had offered aid to your government , however this morning Bush said that foreign aid was not needed. This stance has since been changed, and foreign aid will not be turned away. I don't resent the US wanting or needing aid, I do resent people saying that foreign countries don't offer it when they so blatantly have. Andy On 1 Sep 2005, at 17:46, Elizabeth Osborne wrote: > Is it because we have a complete idiot for a president that it > makes it > acceptable for nobody to care about the folks in the south? Come > on...sympathy is great, condolences are appreciated, but just > because we > are the USA does NOT make it acceptable to be ignored under such > circumstances. > > Elizabeth > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Susan Gore Gardner > To: Opposite View > Subject: OV: troubles (no del content) > Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:22:47 -0700 > Jane, I did think of Mimi and was wondering how she was doing during > all > this trouble - I am sick at heart with the news that she was still > there > with her family... > The television news reports are more disturbing each time I see > them, > and > perhaps more mortifying than New Orleans flooding is the news that > Gulfport & Biloxi (which I had visited on holiday as a teenager) > have > suffered such devastation. With New Orleans, it keeps coming to mind > that this was almost surely to happen sooner or later, I mean the > city is > below sea level so it was the proverbial tragedy waiting to unfold. > But > the numerous other cities that were so damaged by the tsunami-like > waves, > they literally didn't see this coming. > > And Dirk, I appreciate your honesty when you said "There's so many > people > here in Germany who seem to think: It's the USA this time, not > some3rd-world-country like India or so. THEY are the biggest and > wealthiest nation in the world and want to be the world-police - so > why > do WE have to help THEM?" I/we almost expect that kind of reaction > from > many nations; we will handle this tragedy by ourselves and our > citizens > will learn from it & emerge wounded but stronger. Any help or > condolences sent from other more kind > nations is just that more appreciated. > > TTFN Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:22:08 +0100 From: Andrew Douglas Subject: Re: OV: No more politics Sorry, got this after I sent the last one .... at least I got the last word! ;) Andy On 1 Sep 2005, at 17:56, Darren Holmquist wrote: > Folks, let's take the politics off-line to private emails, and not > use the Del Amitri Discussion List to discuss politics. > > Thank you, > Darren ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:36:57 +0100 From: Andrew Douglas Subject: Re: OV: Dels heard funnily I remember a post once about someone hearing a dels song being played in a supermarket but it was one of those awful cover versions .... anyone heard the dels as hold music? Trying To Lighten The Mood in Belfast On 1 Sep 2005, at 16:14, Teresa Couch wrote: > While we were out grabbing a milkshake at the local Sonic drive-in > the Sonic-radio station played "Roll to Me" which I thought was > pretty funny since their car hops wear roller skates.......... > > I hope this is a post-worthy item. And I hope the band gets their > residuals for stuff like this > > Kevin, if you're still peeking in now and then.......best wishes for > a happy birthday next week. > > Adios, Del Amigos. > > Teresa > "Ladywiz" www.mediawizard.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 10:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: DONNA DENSON Subject: OV: I'm LOL I haven't posted in a few years but I'm inclined to say...I'M LAUGHING SO HARD RIGHT NOW I'M CRYING! (oops, sorry for the caps!) LOL Dels rule (content) Phil "the barbarian american" Denson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:51:36 -0400 From: asgarciapl@aol.com Subject: Re: OV: Dels heard funnily ironically...I heard "roll to me" whilst waiting in a traffic jam as I-70 had a huge rock slide roll and cover the whole road... - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Douglas To: Opposite View Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:36:57 +0100 Subject: Re: OV: Dels heard funnily I remember a post once about someone hearing a dels song being played in a supermarket but it was one of those awful cover versions .... anyone heard the dels as hold music? Trying To Lighten The Mood in Belfast On 1 Sep 2005, at 16:14, Teresa Couch wrote: > While we were out grabbing a milkshake at the local Sonic drive-in > the Sonic-radio station played "Roll to Me" which I thought was > pretty funny since their car hops wear roller skates.......... > > I hope this is a post-worthy item. And I hope the band gets their > residuals for stuff like this > > Kevin, if you're still peeking in now and then.......best wishes for > a happy birthday next week. > > Adios, Del Amigos. > > Teresa > "Ladywiz" www.mediawizard.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:26:12 -0500 From: "Laura Rush" Subject: OV: Re: OT: Katrina I certainly hope that there is a lack of communication somewhere in the posts of today........... So, in regard to Cindy's message, what original thought does anyone have? It sure couldn't be that we all should help others in need without any thought of repricocity. This is not a new or original thought, to all of us who need each other for so many different reasons. (however, to some present day leaders, it might be a foreign thought.. hmmm ... do something for someone without anything in return? I've seen something like this before, somewhere.... let me try to think where I might have seen this....) PS I am not here to argue about how the US boasts about being the worlds best everything, can over power any country at "no expense except a few more lives", and can also leap tall buildings in a single bound! (the following is the paragraph that provoked so many, if I am not mistaken. ) > It's unfortunate that the so-called friends of the US and countries we > have > helped thru many disasters (and saved them in wars) can't figure out that > natural disasters have nothing to do with politics. No doubt, the liberal > media will (in their usual fashion) continue to paint it that way, both in > this country and around the world, and people will continue to take the > media > spin as gospel instead of having an original thought, and people in the > south > will continue to suffer and die. We are all very saddened, and unfortunatley there has been miscommunication in the midst. It is surely true that we are wanting to nothing but help these people in anyway that we can, I would expect nothing less. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:21:23 -0400 From: Subject: OV: Not politics - Not Dels Something we may not have thought of . . . all the great musicians who make New Orleans their home. They just announced on our local radio station that Fats Domino is among the missing in NO. Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: DONNA DENSON Subject: OV: great musicians who make NO home - no dels "great musicians who make New Orleans their home" Better Than Ezra...love their stuff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:59:15 -0500 From: "Ed Minton" Subject: OV: Katrina/Fats/non-dels etc. Fats Domino Is Missing in New Orleans By JAKE COYLE, AP Entertainment Writer1 hour, 39 minutes ago Fats Domino was missing Thursday, days after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, said his longtime agent, Al Embry. Embry told The Associated Press that he hadn't been able to contact Domino since talking to him Sunday evening by phone. The 77-year-old R&B legend, whose real name is Antoine Domino, told Embry that he planned to stay at his New Orleans house with his wife, Rosemary, and their daughter. "I hope somebody turns him up, but as of right now, we haven't got anybody that knows where he's at," said Embry, who has worked with Domino for 28 years. "I would think he might be safe because somebody said he was on top of the balcony." Checquoline Davis, Domino's niece, posted a message on Craigslist.com Thursday pleading for information. Davis wrote that Domino, his wife, their children and grandchildren "didn't get out" of the second floor. Domino, who has rarely appeared in public in recent years, has a home in the 9th ward, a low-lying area of the flooded city. Getting information on possible missing persons has been nearly impossible as phone lines for hospitals and police haven't been working. Domino has sold more than 110 million records in his long career, including the legendary singles "Blueberry Hill" and "Ain't That a Shame." His 1950 recording of "The Fat Man" is sometimes called the first real rock 'n' roll record. He was among the first honorees to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:34:53 -0500 From: Alison Bellach Subject: Re: OV: great musicians who make NO home - no dels Better than Ezra wrote their fan list a few days ago -- they're all okay, and incidentally, on tour. - -a - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com http://alibee.delamitri.com http://www.delamitri.com "If you want peace, work for justice." Quoting DONNA DENSON : > "great musicians who make New Orleans their home" > > Better Than Ezra...love their stuff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:50:51 -0500 From: "Steven & Cindy Meyer" Subject: OV: OT; Katrina (Darren: I only mean to explain, not bring up politics. I've answered Laura off-list in more detail) 1) A hurricane is not a political issue although some are already beginning to make it look that way. 2) Original thought: When you are listening to news of any kind, question what you hear and try to make your own decisions, instead of believing everything they tell you. Do research on your own to find out the real facts, especially into the "other side" of the story, which you will not get unless you look. Cindy (who thinks Pat Robertson is an idiot) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Rush" To: Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: OV: Re: OT: Katrina > I certainly hope that there is a lack of communication somewhere in the > posts of today........... > > So, in regard to Cindy's message, what original thought does anyone have? > > It sure couldn't be that we all should help others in need without any > thought of repricocity. This is not a new or original thought, to all > of us who need each other for so many different reasons. > (however, to some present day leaders, it might be a foreign thought.. > hmmm ... do something for someone without anything in return? I've seen > something like this before, somewhere.... let me try to think where I > might have seen this....) > > > > PS I am not here to argue about how the US boasts about being the worlds > best everything, can over power any country at "no expense except a few > more lives", > and can also leap tall buildings in a single bound! > > (the following is the paragraph that provoked so many, if I am not > mistaken. ) > > > > It's unfortunate that the so-called friends of the US and countries we > > have > > helped thru many disasters (and saved them in wars) can't figure out that > > natural disasters have nothing to do with politics. No doubt, the liberal > > media will (in their usual fashion) continue to paint it that way, both in > > this country and around the world, and people will continue to take the > > media > > spin as gospel instead of having an original thought, and people in the > > south > > will continue to suffer and die. > > > We are all very saddened, and unfortunatley there has been > miscommunication in the midst. It is surely true that we are wanting > to nothing but help these people in anyway that we can, I would expect > nothing less. > > Laura ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V7 #94 *********************************