From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V5 #7 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Thursday, January 9 2003 Volume 05 : Number 007 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: Re: 2003 ["Susan & Charles Gardner" ] OV: Re: Bummed ["Susan Gardner" ] OV: Having fun? [Birgit Wurm ] OV: BBC News - Illegal music sites 'here to stay' ["Jen Woyan" Subject: OV: Re: 2003 Well Birgit, "happy birthday" in advance of the event! I remember being 30... *vbg* If you're like me, life will kick into high gear then. It was a turning point for me and marked the beginning of a very liberating time of my life, perhaps because I finally became 'comfortable' with who I am & realized that I was right where I was supposed to be: a creative woman, a wife and mom, a daughter and loyal friend... put right here, right now for a purpose. In life there are no accidents or coincidences, just choices and their results. So, even if you've been negatively affected by other's choices, you still have the ability to change everything by not only how you respond to those situations but also by the choices you make from that moment on! So as this new year begins, I choose to keep close to me the music that inspires me, the friends who care, and the faith that just keeps getting stronger the more I explore it. Del Amitri will remain in the cd player and close to my heart. May this year continue to be a positive one for you, and I hope that little child due during the summer is born on July 3 so we can share a birthday! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Birgit Wurm To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: OV: 2003 Off Dels - but isn't everything these days? Turning 30 in February and turning in my final thesis (hopefully) around the same time should be enough to face at the start of a new year and my cousin's request to become godmother for her fifth child this summer should be a piece of cake compared to finally finding a permanent job these days. Still it got me a little scared and so I was just wondering whether there was any sound advice to be had around here? Birgit (Whose new year so far has definitely been better than the last - but this could always be topped by a few good news) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:19:03 -0500 From: "Susan Gardner" Subject: OV: Re: Bummed Stop being so negative! If the song is being used on a new show, that means SOMEbody out there who decides what music is added into shows not only likes the song but has just exposed hundreds of unwitting souls to the Dels sound simply by choosing to add the song to that episode's soundtrack. What if some of them inquire as to who the band is? All kinds of good things could result... I adore that song too, what a good choice... its the one song off Twisted that got me hooked on the band to begin with... ----- Original Message ----- From: SngWrite1@aol.com To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: OV: Bummed I've decided that hearing "Tell Her This" being used at the end of an episode of Scrubs depresses the bejesus out of me. Why would I find it depressing? Because it just reminds me of the absence of the Dels. The absence of a release of the album in the states, resulting in their absence from our shores... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:03:09 +0100 From: Birgit Wurm Subject: OV: Having fun? Edinburgh is Posh Scotland and Glasgow is Scary. That should make London, as the common enemy, Ginger Britain. Frankonia (the area around Nuremberg) is like Ratatouille: kinda like the salad-bowl-concept, but much much better, if not quite melting-pot-material. Nuremberg's football club "The Club" has a lifeline like a pendulum thanks to Cheap Trick's Robin Zander and mainly needs mentioning because it is the only thing about Nuremberg that is still able to surprise even the most hardened fans (and frequently reduce them to tears). And the concept behind twin cities compares to a slightly altered Dels chorus: you have to see the (private) fool behind the (public) smile and then find the heart behind it all...in the case of Nuremberg and Glasgow you may revert back to the original frown. That's generally what my final thesis is going to be. There is also a little Asterix, Ian Rankin's Inspector Rebus series and lots of Del Amitri in general. Oh, and I've mainly listened to Dave's record since finally getting it as a x-mas present so let's wait and see! Cheers, Birgit (Just trying to lighten the general spirit) ______________________________________________________________________________ PREMIERE exklusiv bei WEB.DE: 3 Monate gratis + d-box-1 ab 1 Euro Online solange der Vorrat reicht! http://premiere.web.de/?mc=999937&lp=2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:42:52 -0600 From: "Jen Woyan" Subject: OV: BBC News - Illegal music sites 'here to stay' Wednesday, 8 January, 2003, 08:24 GMT Illegal music sites 'here to stay' By Darren Waters BBC News Online entertainment staff http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2636235.stm Illegal music download sites will never be eradicated, the president of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has admitted. Cary Sherman told BBC News Online that music would always be available for free somewhere on the net despite costly court battles to shut down illegal music sites. He said the aim was to bring the proliferation of sites under control so that business were free to continue to make money. Even if illegal sites were removed now, a huge vacuum would be created Mark Mulligan, Jupiter Research "Our aim is not to completely eliminate music piracy or illegal peer-to-peer services altogether, " said Mr Sherman. "As long as it is within a reasonable amount of control then we will be happy but we are still a long way from that." Mark Mulligan, an analyst with Jupiter Research, agreed that the music industry would never fully be able to eradicate illegal file sharing. "There will always be those willing to develop alternative illegal services. "It has got to be accepted that file sharing will always be there just as shoplifting is accepted as wastage in the retail sector." Mr Sherman's comments come as research shows more people than ever are willing to pay for songs on the internet and the music industry starts to hope people will turn to legitimate services. 'Exploding According to Jupiter, 19% of people surveyed said they would pay for song downloads over the internet, up from 16% a year ago. The RIAA, which has spearheaded court action against illegal sites, said legitimate online music services were "exploding". "The overriding goal of our efforts to curb illegal internet music trafficking has been to foster an online environment where the legitimate services can succeed," said RIAA chairman Hilary Rosen. "It is also encouraging that the extraordinary progress of the legitimate online market in the US is being mirrored around the world," she added. But Mr Mulligan said major music labels and online music distributors were yet to convince the masses that the internet was a good source of paid-for music. The music industry is convinced illegal music downloads are having a detrimental effect on record sales. Album sales in the US in 2002 were down for the second year in a row - dropping more than 10% on the previous year. Mr Mulligan said the proliferation of illegal sites had to be tackled before people would start paying for their music online. Pledged "Illegal file sharing has to be driven into the underground by making legitimate offerings compelling," he said. The RIAA has pledged to crack down even harder on illegal music sites in 2003 - targeting offices and universities where people use computers to download songs. "We are taking the message to universities and corporations that illegal downloads waste bandwidth and expose their networks to security problems," said Mr Sherman. The scale of the problem is huge - in 2001 IFPI and affiliated national groups were responsible for the removal of: 1,060 unauthorised servers 28,000 pirate web and music sites 700 million unauthorised music files The IFPI estimates that 99% of all music files exchanged on the net are illegal and that in May 2002 there were about 500 million files available for copying at any one time. 'Experimentation' Mr Mulligan said the offerings of US services MusicNet and Pressplay, which are backed by major labels, remained "experimentation". "Even if illegal sites were removed now a huge vacuum would be created. "In the US there are a handful of legitimate offerings but in Europe there are almost no real legitimate forms available." Mr Mulligan said that in Europe there needed to a higher penetration of broadband, simpler licensing agreements and more legitimate offerings before the market could take off. He said: "The whole of the internet has been a free content model. You have to convince people that it is worth paying for good quality content." Mr Sherman admitted that the only response to illegal peer-to-peer services was to promote "legal, attractive alternatives that will make consumers want to pay for their music". _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V5 #7 ********************************