From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V4 #184 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Wednesday, July 17 2002 Volume 04 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: RE: In Rotation...and local bands ["claire barber (SRI)" ] Re: OV: In Rotation...Ryan Adams? [Alison Bellach ] Re: OV: RE: Re: In Rotation... ["Carol D'Amico" ] OV: In Rotation ["Ed Minton" ] OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. [Andrew ] Re: OV: In Rotation... [Debbie Cushing ] Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. [Lib] Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. [dou] Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. [Al] Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. [De] OV: gin blossoms [TokIeyasu@aol.com] OV: current playlist [TokIeyasu@aol.com] Re: OV: In Rotation... [Aleksandr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:15:15 +0100 From: "claire barber (SRI)" Subject: OV: RE: In Rotation...and local bands Great to hear Julia has a new one out. I have a couple of hers - such a different (but wonderful!) voice. Oh, dear - all these new CD's I'm wanting to go out and buy, now that I've been given ideas and had rief listens on the internet!!!! This is dangerous (expensive) game to play. Some of you have been mentioning local bands. I have a CD of a local Bedford group called Glorious. After a few listens i'm coming round to this. Any other up and coming local bands worth looking out for? Claire - -----Original Message----- From: William Kates [mailto:wkates@hotmail.com] Sent: 16 July 2002 05:29 To: oppositeview@smoe.org Subject: OV: In Rotation... Delurking to share "What's in my cd player", one of my favorite features of OV. 1. Julia Fordham - Concrete Love. This album was finished almost a year ago and resided in record company limbo until now. Atlantic was to release it late last year but her contract was dropped, and she was just recently picked up by Vanguard (it seems like many great artists are falling between the cracks of the record industry now - Del Amitri, Texas, and Tanita Tikaram to name three, have no U.S. record company at present). If any of you are familiar with Julia's first two albums (both wonderful, start to finish), this new one equals or betters them. She's an amazing singer and a great songwriter. Concrete Love is one of her strongest collection of songs ever, and the production on this record by Larry Klein is superb. I give it my highest recommendation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:17:46 +0100 From: "Joe Brady" Subject: OV: Re: RE: In Rotation...and local bands Fantastic London Based band called Chineseburn. They supported Eileen Rose when she played in London last year. www.chineseburn.com Check out Nose bleeds. Another good band are called the toes. www.thetoes.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "claire barber (SRI)" To: "Dels (E-mail)" Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:15 AM Subject: OV: RE: In Rotation...and local bands > Great to hear Julia has a new one out. I have a couple of hers - such a different (but wonderful!) voice. Oh, dear - all these new CD's I'm wanting to go out and buy, now that I've been given ideas and had rief listens on the internet!!!! This is dangerous (expensive) game to play. > Some of you have been mentioning local bands. I have a CD of a local Bedford group called Glorious. After a few listens i'm coming round to this. Any other up and coming local bands worth looking out for? > Claire > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Kates [mailto:wkates@hotmail.com] > Sent: 16 July 2002 05:29 > To: oppositeview@smoe.org > Subject: OV: In Rotation... > > > Delurking to share "What's in my cd player", one of my favorite features of > OV. > > 1. Julia Fordham - Concrete Love. This album was finished almost a year ago > and resided in record company limbo until now. Atlantic was to release it > late last year but her contract was dropped, and she was just recently > picked up by Vanguard (it seems like many great artists are falling between > the cracks of the record industry now - Del Amitri, Texas, and Tanita > Tikaram to name three, have no U.S. record company at present). If any of > you are familiar with Julia's first two albums (both wonderful, start to > finish), this new one equals or betters them. She's an amazing singer and a > great songwriter. Concrete Love is one of her strongest collection of songs > ever, and the production on this record by Larry Klein is superb. I give it > my highest recommendation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:19:55 -0400 From: "William Kates" Subject: OV: In Rotation...Ryan Adams? When Ryan Adams last appeared on the World Cafe, a national radio program here in the states, he seemed in his interview segments to be intentionally disagreeable, as if to be putting on some sort of alternative (I would hate to use the word "punk") image. The attitude seems totally unnecessary based on the quality of his work. Ah well, kids these days... - William Kates _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison Bellach Subject: Re: OV: In Rotation...Ryan Adams? Besides, any punk would laugh hysterically to hear that RA thinks himself of the same school. On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, William Kates wrote: > When Ryan Adams last appeared on the World Cafe, a national radio program > here in the states, he seemed in his interview segments to be intentionally > disagreeable, as if to be putting on some sort of alternative (I would hate > to use the word "punk") image. The attitude seems totally unnecessary based > on the quality of his work. Ah well, kids these days... - William > Kates > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com "If you want peace, work for justice." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:52:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Carol D'Amico" Subject: Re: OV: RE: Re: In Rotation... my latest five discs in the carousel: Crash Test Dummies - God Shuffled His Feet Marc Cohn - debut cd Todd Rundgren - Live Bootleg 10/23/01 from Anapolis, MD Better Than Ezra - Deluxe Jefferson Starship - Live Bootleg 10/01 NYC Carol Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:14:54 -0500 From: "Ed Minton" Subject: OV: In Rotation Here's what I've been up to lately: Dels - CYDMG Van Morrison - Down The Road (Van is always a pleasure) Los Lobos - Good Morning Aztlan (Each track seems to be better than the previous one, one of my favorite bands) Robben Ford - Blue Moon Robben Ford - Jing Chi - This will be a good year if for no other reason than being blessed by not one, but two new releases from Robben. Wonderful melodies and playing by consumate musicians, including Jimmy Haslip on bass, (Yellowjackets), and Vinnie Colaiuta on drums (Sting). Robben is generally regarded as the most tasteful guitarist recording today. Both these releases have received great reviews. Robben's resume includes George Harrison, Miles Davis, Joni Mitchell, and many others. More on Robben: - -the only thing keeping it (Blue Moon), from being Ford's "ultimate" is that, having followed this astounding artist's career for thirty-plus years, I know he's capable of even more. -Dan Forte, Vintage Guitar, May 2002 - -At times, it sounds to me like what Cream might have sounded like had they stuck around until the late '70's or so. As guitarists, we should all sing the praises of Mr. Ford. He's a great player and he loves to play. Take the last year alone for instance. We saw the release of A Tribute to Paul Butterfield from Robben and his brothers. Then it was Robben's marvelous Blue Moon. And now Jing Chi. I defy you to show me a player who plays with this much soul, shill, and versatility. As Danny Kortchmar said: "If Robben had a drug problem, he'd be a superstar." In any player's book, he is a superstar. -John Heidt, Vintage Guitar, July 2002 http://www.robbenford.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:08:35 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Subject: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. And unashamedly praiseful descriptions of the aural horrors that you will suffer therein. Subject to expansion, contraction, or change, at owner's whim: 1. Tom Waits - Frank's Wild Years The twisted Weimar Republic cabaret stylings of some of the songs on Alice and Blood Money, like Starving In the Belly of A Whale and Kommienezuespadt, made me think about how long it's been since I had this Operachi Romantico turning on the player, and recent events have made Cold Cold Ground uncomfortably relevant. A masterpiece of the album format, with the real standouts like Frank's Theme and Train Song essential to be heard with the bookends provided by the other songs. The opener, Hang On St. Christoper, is the only song to start a thousand-mile road trip with, and Innocent When You Dream is still the best imbibing song ever. Raise your drinking glass high, and with me now-- "The bats are in the belfry, the dew is on the moor, where are the arms that held me, and pledged her love before..." 2. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy, & the Lash Okay, so maybe The Sick Bed of Cuchulainn is the best drinking song ever. This 'bum is possibly the best ever from The Artists Formerly Known As The Nipple Erectors. It's Shane MacGowan's smoke-and-Powers voice, belting out homewritten lost classics like Sally MacLennane and Billy's Bones. This is pure prime Pogues, plenty of props to the producer, a Scouser, one Declan Patrick McManus. There's nothing like Cait O'Riordan putting down her bass and singing about how she's A Man You Don't Meet Every Day. Yeah, I know Shane was too drunk to do it himself, but that was never a rare occurrence. As for the rest, it's got covers of traditional tunes, and of some of the best work of Ewan McColl and Eric Bogle. Not discounting Navigator, a song that's gotten me to work more than one bleary morning. What more could you want? 3. Dan Bern - Fifty Eggs Forget what you knew or thought you knew about Bob Dylan. This is Bob Dylan's dark side, his evil twin, unable to take a damn thing seriously. He's a nice Midwestern Jewish boy, just like Dylan. He moved to New York to start a singing career, just like Dylan. And he's got a voice, well, just like Dylan's. Only Dylan doesn't sing about his big balls, and their connection to Tiger Woods. Dylan doesn't sing about Monica Seles' stabbing. Dylan doesn't sing about how black people have better music than him, except for possibly in Blind Willie McTell. Dylan doesn't sing about any of those things, and perhaps he's the poorer for it. But Dylan himself would agree that there's a time for Dylan, and there's a time for Dan Bern. Today just happens to be a Dan Bern day, so I think I'll just put on Cure For AIDS one more time, and know that, even if he's not as celebrated as he should be, at least Ani DiFranco likes him. 4. Alabama 3 - Exile On Coldharbour Lane In some interview that I read when I was half-drunk, Reverend Larry Love said that Woke Up This Morning is about a woman who kills her abusive husband after one beating too many. That makes about as much sense as Liam Howlett's lame explanations that Firestarter is about Keith Flint's onstage antics, or Smack My Bitch Up being about doing something really well. And frankly my dear, I don't give a damn, because this whole group doesn't make much sense, from their cod Southern accents and the hazy Brixton origins, to the claims they met in rehab. Just lay back and let the sweet goddamn pretty motherfuckin' country acid-house music wash over you. Enjoy the irony of a John Prine cover by a tekno band. Have a larf at the gospel hillbilly singalong of The Old Purple Tin, or the clever play on Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov of Bourgeosie Blues. And don't worry if you remember Mao Tze Tung ACTUALLY saying "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun"; the all-over mishmash of this album doesn't reward the picky. 5. Daniel Lanois - Acadie One of the foremost record producers working in the industry today and for the past twenty years, and on this album, boy does it show. He's a friend of Brian Eno's, and seems to believe in the same 'sonic landscape' that Eno talks about. The opening guitar chords don't even begin to hint at the rich sounds that are to come. I only have one complaint about this album, and that's the the second song. The Maker is a great piece, but the bass is up too high in the mix, which is murky at best, hindering what is otherwise a powerful song about being a prodigal son. Silium's Hill, the combination of two gospel hymns, is given an understated treatment that resonates. And the closer, a nontraditional cover of Amazing Grace, has Aaron Neville doing a muted lead vocal. It's simultaneously haunting and a panacea for the soul. Not an easy achievement. And this album uses National guitars to probably the best effect since Robert Johnson. Guess I won't hold it against Lanois that he's Canadian. And a bonus nonmusical experience, because I like to cheat: Denis Leary - Lock 'N Load Okay, so it's not strictly nonmusical, unless you classify sonic gloop like Love Barge, the Irish-American auntie-upsetting Fuck the Kennedys, nostalgia for fat guys with muttonchop sideburns in white polyster suits eating pork chops with whipped cream (Elvis and I), and the lullaby that every kid needs to hear, Life's Gonna Suck, as outside of the realm of the musical. But it starts out with a slam against the Lord of The Ego, Michael Flatley, and ends with a long list of those forgiven under his lapsed Catholic church, and those who need to lock and load, stopping along the way to take the mick out of Fiona Apple, Marv Albert, the Pope, bizarre piercings, and Starbucks among others. And where else, outside of a Massachussetts circuit court, will you hear the sentence, "I carry a torch for kids who carry candles?" Intensely political, and by that I don't mean it'll make you want to run for public office. No lectures, please, about how Del Amitri are nowhere in that list. Neither is Townes Van Zandt, or Frank Zappa, or the Cowboy Junkies, but that doesn't mean that I don't like 'em. And please, no looks of shock horror that I've posted either. Man does not live on sullen withdrawal alone. We now return you to our regularly scheduled posts. -Andrew RESURGAM Nick: I'm not the first guy who fell in love with a woman that he met at a restaurant who turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist only to lose her to her childhood lover whom she last saw on a deserted island who then turned out fifteen years later to be the leader of the French Underground. Hillary: I know. It all sounds like some bad movie. -Top Secret! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Debbie Cushing Subject: Re: OV: In Rotation... - --- William Kates wrote: > Delurking to share "What's in my cd player", one of > my favorite features of > OV. > > > 3. Norah Jones - Come Away With Me. The success of > this beautiful recording > should give Del Amitri some hope. Here's a disc > that defies every previous > chart trend, and yet has sold very well in the U.S. > and, I understand it is > top ten in Britain. This record blends jazz, > country, blues and pop in a > seamless and effortless manner, with Norah handling > piano and vocals, with > wonderfully understated production by Arif Mardin - > his brilliance on this > project is that he knew to basically stay out of the > way and get a sound on > the recording that is much like what she does live. > This record should give > hope to those naive enough to think that if you make > the record you really > want to make, and if it is good enough, an audience > will find it. Norah may > have gotten a little bit of press mileage out of the > fact that her father is > Ravi Shankar, but there is no apparent influence on > her music style. From what I understand, Norah wasn't raised by or with her dad, so that would make sense that she wouldn't have been influenced by him. Although I do live in Dallas, she wasn't ever prominent enough while she actually lived (and was raised, I believe) here, so I haven't had a chance to see her live. I really like her album, so if that's what she sounds like live, as well, I'd love to see her. debbie Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:02:20 +0100 (BST) From: Libby Graham Subject: Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. So now you all know why I listen to such different music at work or in the car. And I find it wierd that lots of people are mentioning albums that my parents make us listen to when we visit. Damn my cool parents :-) The first I knew of Norah Jones was when my Mum said it would be a good father's day pressie ..... The uncool wife and daughter excited that Colin Vearncombe (aka Black, as in Wonderful Life) will be playing Basingstoke. Libby On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Andrew wrote: > And unashamedly praiseful descriptions of the aural horrors that you will > suffer therein. Subject to expansion, contraction, or change, at owner's > whim: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: doug brown Subject: Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. Chez Libby fails another breathalyzer test! Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:44:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison Bellach Subject: Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. And here, we see the use of French in such a wrong fashion that we have no understanding of Doug's email. That's probably a good thing. (Chez means "house of") On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, doug brown wrote: > Chez Libby fails another breathalyzer test! > - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com "If you want peace, work for justice." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:12:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Debbie Cushing Subject: Re: OV: What I Would Force You To Listen To If You Came To My House. - --- Libby Graham wrote: > The uncool wife and daughter excited that Colin > Vearncombe (aka Black, as > in Wonderful Life) will be playing Basingstoke. > > Libby > Oh you lucky, lucky duck! I LOVE CV. I only have one of his albums as Colin Vearncombe (as opposed to my Black CDs and, yes, even vinyl albums!) but I really do like his voice a lot. "Abbey Road Live" was in rotation until a couple of months ago when I realoaded my CD changer. So, if you're uncool, then I am, too. See, we never get any good concerts here! I guess I'm going to have to become a more regular visitor to far away lands. :-) Enjoy the show! debbie Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:34:23 EDT From: TokIeyasu@aol.com Subject: OV: gin blossoms gin blossoms actually opened for the dels once upon a time....check the song allison road ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:36:22 EDT From: TokIeyasu@aol.com Subject: OV: current playlist the new dels album of course holmes brothers....some real time blues michael anderson sound alarm michael anderson selftitled coors live ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:49:36 +1000 (EST) From: Aleksandr Subject: Re: OV: In Rotation... being depressed as all hell at the moment (because of a girl - what else?) my top five cd's in the pile are (in no particular order) Change Everything (having still not got around to getting CYDMG i am feeling very guilty, but "First Rule of love" is the winner on this disc. Nothing but a Dream... -Paul Kelly. An australian legend with a fine turn of word - if you like the Dels, you'll love some of his work. The album fits in with stuff going on right about now. No Angel - Dido. If you haven't listened to this album, you are missing out. The singles released didn't quite do it justice, good as they were. The Chillout Sessions 2001 - Ministry of Sound When i'm sick of listening to other people's words, a bit of chillout music goes a long way to setting a soundtrack to my own writings. Jeckel Brothers - Insane Clown posse Yes, well there had to be one.... with a "F^ck you" sense of homour and a real talent for making familiar tunes dangerous and unsettling, ICP is giving me the green light to be angry and hate along. Cheers, AL in Sydney - - "I think not being born is ecologically responsible." - Alice, 'The quick & the dead' On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Darren Holmquist wrote: > At 07:10 AM 7/12/02 -0700, Lauree wrote: > > Every time we do the "What's in your CD player" lists, my want-to-buy > list of CDs increases. > > > >OV'ers have great taste! > > > Well, then, let's do it! > > 5 discs, what's been playing at your house/car/work?? And, if it's someone > we haven't heard of, give a brief explanation... > > -Darren ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V4 #184 **********************************