From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V4 #137 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Sunday, May 26 2002 Volume 04 : Number 137 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: More reviews ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: Barra's ["Claire O'Rourke" ] Re: OV: Barra's [Darren Holmquist ] OV: Admin problems / Barrowlands show [Darren Holmquist ] Re: OV: Barra's ["Claire O'Rourke" ] Re: OV: Barra's ["Jane Armstrong" ] Re: OV: Barra's ["Claire O'Rourke" ] [none] ["Claire O'Rourke" ] Re: OV: Barra's ["Joe Brady" ] OV: Let's stop now. [Darren Holmquist ] OV: Re: Let's stop now. ["Joe Brady" ] Re: OV: Re: Let's stop now. ["Barbara Houldey" ] Re: OV: Let's stop now. [Aleksandr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 09:29:57 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: More reviews http://www.netrhythms.co.uk/reviews.html#delamitri Has a review of both CYDMG and the Croydon gig. Jane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:06:41 +0100 From: "Claire O'Rourke" Subject: OV: Barra's Just to let you all know I have the Barra's bootleg from 9 may....it's a damn good copy! Brings out goosebumps!!! A freind of a frind is selling them at 15 quid each so if anyone wants a copy lemme know offlist :0) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:39:47 -0700 From: Darren Holmquist Subject: Re: OV: Barra's Claire, Could we use it to set up a CD Tree???? That way even more people can hear it. Darren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:53:58 -0700 From: Darren Holmquist Subject: OV: Admin problems / Barrowlands show Good day all, There's been a rash of complaints from list members about not getting all the emails. Emails referred to in later posts, that they didn't get... that sort of thing. So far it seems to be an AOL thing. Both Brock and Jack have commented on not receiving emails, but with the help of the Smoe.org administrator, he's determined that AOL did in fact receive the emails that they were missing, but that the mail simply did not make it to their mailboxes. He said that other lists are having the same problem with AOL subscribers. What to do?? I don't know. Get the hell off AOL???????? (that's a joke!) So, that's the story of the film so far.... is anyone else NOT getting all the emails everyday? Please email me off-list. Also, before everyone goes over the top regarding this Barrowland's show Claire has gotten... we'll tree it just like we did with the Tribute CD (without the time delays!). Hopefully I'll be signing up branches by the end of this weekend. Stay tuned.... Darren Holmquist Admin. Opposite View Mailing List *********************** To unsubscribe the Opposite View Mailing List, send an email to Majordomo@smoe.org and put unsubscribe oppositeview in the BODY of the message. To unsubscribe the Opposite View Digest, send an email to Majordomo@smoe.org and put unsubscribe oppositeview-digest in the BODY of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:48:51 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: Re: OV: Barra's Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that we don't condone the *sale* of bootleg CD's on this list - where someone makes a huge profit on the back of the Dels. Charging #15 for something which costs around 50p to make sounds rather a lot when the Dels don't get a single penny out if it. (And let's face it they're not exactly going to be living the high life on the back of sales from CYDMG!) Though a trading "tree" is a great idea Darren. Jane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:05:22 +0100 From: "Claire O'Rourke" Subject: Re: OV: Barra's Apologies if I have offended anyone. I just thought some people may be interested in buying it. I will withdraw the offer getting it for anyone if it causes a problem. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Armstrong" To: "Claire O'Rourke" ; "opposite view" Sent: 25 May 2002 18:48 Subject: Re: OV: Barra's > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that we don't condone the > *sale* of bootleg CD's on this list - where someone makes a huge profit on > the back of the Dels. Charging #15 for something which costs around 50p to > make sounds rather a lot when the Dels don't get a single penny out if it. > (And let's face it they're not exactly going to be living the high life on > the back of sales from CYDMG!) > > Though a trading "tree" is a great idea Darren. > > Jane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:06:47 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: Re: OV: Barra's No offence Claire - just meant as a comment. I'd probably consider buying a copy anyway and not telling anyone :-)) And then feel very guilty about it afterwards. Jane > Apologies if I have offended anyone. > I just thought some people may be interested in buying it. > I will withdraw the offer getting it for anyone if it causes a problem. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:20:33 +0100 From: "Claire O'Rourke" Subject: Re: OV: Barra's The way I see it is he has something I want.....and I'd have paid a lot more than #15 quid for it. But that's just me (though I know lots of people would do it to!) I do not have the facillity to copy cd's, nor will I make a penny from this, I am doing it because I thought people on this list would be interested and I am happy to do the posting of it etc. And yes, I know what this guy has done is technically wrong.....but he risked his neck to do it and is owed for that, no-one is forcing anyone to buy it! I paid quite a bit for 'swimming' and I don't regret that!!! So as I said, if me offering to do this has offended, consider it withdrawn, i was only doing what I would hope others would do if they could get this and I couldn't! If everyone is happy to leave this offer open, then as I said mail me offlist. Claire - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Armstrong" To: "Claire O'Rourke" Cc: "opposite view" Sent: 25 May 2002 19:06 Subject: Re: OV: Barra's > No offence Claire - just meant as a comment. I'd probably consider buying > a copy anyway and not telling anyone :-)) And then feel very guilty about > it afterwards. > > Jane > > > Apologies if I have offended anyone. > > I just thought some people may be interested in buying it. > > I will withdraw the offer getting it for anyone if it causes a problem. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:25:03 +0100 From: "Claire O'Rourke" Subject: [none] Oh, and he will also have The Barr's 20 may by next week too. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:26:19 +0100 From: "Joe Brady" Subject: Re: OV: Barra's When you want to make a quick buck off the back off someone else's talents you do normally risk your neck. That's what Theft is. At the end of the day i to would love a CD like this one but its not doing the Band we are all meant to love any Favors. I know your attentions were good Clair but its not right.We need the band to know that we are not like the record companies that continue to rip off there Talents. Joe Brady Love you do........ >From: "Claire O'Rourke" >To: "Jane Armstrong" >CC: "opposite view" >Subject: Re: OV: Barra's >Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:20:33 +0100 > >The way I see it is he has something I want.....and I'd have paid a lot more >than #15 quid for it. But that's just me (though I know lots of people would >do it to!) >I do not have the facillity to copy cd's, nor will I make a penny from this, >I am doing it because I thought people on this list would be interested and >I am happy to do the posting of it etc. >And yes, I know what this guy has done is technically wrong.....but he >risked his neck to do it and is owed for that, no-one is forcing anyone to >buy it! >I paid quite a bit for 'swimming' and I don't regret that!!! >So as I said, if me offering to do this has offended, consider it withdrawn, >i was only doing what I would hope others would do if they could get this >and I couldn't! >If everyone is happy to leave this offer open, then as I said mail me >offlist. > >Claire >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jane Armstrong" >To: "Claire O'Rourke" >Cc: "opposite view" >Sent: 25 May 2002 19:06 >Subject: Re: OV: Barra's > > > > No offence Claire - just meant as a comment. I'd probably consider >buying > > a copy anyway and not telling anyone :-)) And then feel very guilty about > > it afterwards. > > > > Jane > > > > > Apologies if I have offended anyone. > > > I just thought some people may be interested in buying it. > > > I will withdraw the offer getting it for anyone if it causes a problem. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:40:17 -0700 From: Darren Holmquist Subject: OV: Let's stop now. Just so everyone knows, Claire wasn't offering to sell copies. She doesn't have a CD burner. She was offering to put you in touch with the guy who is selling copies. It was just an offer of information. The morality of the issue is now in your hands, what you do with that information. Attacking Claire isn't what the OV Community is about. It isn't what Jane was doing, and I don't think it's what Joe is doing. But, let's stop it here. Let's go back to having a fun place to play. Darren Admin. Opposite View Mailing List ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:55:00 +0100 From: "Joe Brady" Subject: OV: Re: Let's stop now. > Attacking Claire isn't what the OV Community is about. It isn't what Jane > was doing, and I don't think it's what Joe is doing. Think? I can tell you now Daz if I was attacking you ,You would know about it.I did not for one second have a go at Claire.All I was saying was that Bootlegging is bad news for any band and that was the point I was making. I know Claire is one of the bands biggest fans and no offence was intended.Even though she is inciting Illegal Activities(JOKE!!!!!!!!) Joe Brady. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Holmquist" To: "Joe Brady" ; ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: Let's stop now. > Just so everyone knows, Claire wasn't offering to sell copies. She doesn't > have a CD burner. She was offering to put you in touch with the guy who is > selling copies. It was just an offer of information. The morality of the > issue is now in your hands, what you do with that information. > > Attacking Claire isn't what the OV Community is about. It isn't what Jane > was doing, and I don't think it's what Joe is doing. But, let's stop it here. > > Let's go back to having a fun place to play. > > Darren > Admin. Opposite View Mailing List ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 23:24:45 +0100 From: "Barbara Houldey" Subject: Re: OV: Re: Let's stop now. Hiya, I think it's a good idea to stop mail like this, it doesn't do anyone any good :) I hope by being a newcomer here i haven't spoken out of turn. Barbara >From: "Joe Brady" >To: , , "Darren >Holmquist" >CC: >Subject: OV: Re: Let's stop now. >Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:55:00 +0100 > > > Attacking Claire isn't what the OV Community is about. It isn't what >Jane > > was doing, and I don't think it's what Joe is doing. > >Think? I can tell you now Daz if I was attacking you ,You would know about >it.I did not for one second have a go at Claire.All I was saying was that >Bootlegging is bad news for any band and that was the point I was making. > >I know Claire is one of the bands biggest fans and no offence was >intended.Even though she is inciting Illegal Activities(JOKE!!!!!!!!) > >Joe Brady. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Darren Holmquist" >To: "Joe Brady" ; ; > >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:40 PM >Subject: Let's stop now. > > > > Just so everyone knows, Claire wasn't offering to sell copies. She >doesn't > > have a CD burner. She was offering to put you in touch with the guy who >is > > selling copies. It was just an offer of information. The morality of >the > > issue is now in your hands, what you do with that information. > > > > Attacking Claire isn't what the OV Community is about. It isn't what >Jane > > was doing, and I don't think it's what Joe is doing. But, let's stop it >here. > > > > Let's go back to having a fun place to play. > > > > Darren > > Admin. Opposite View Mailing List _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:01:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison Bellach Subject: OV: due to popular demand... ... www.delamiti.com has changed/added a new feature: a new, ad-free (thank G-D!!!!!) bulletin board/forum/chatroom. Check it! http://www.delamitri.com/interact/discussion.html Big thanks to Hilary, who actually made me realize how annoying the old one, with ads, was... :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com "If you want peace, work for justice." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:05:16 +1000 (EST) From: Aleksandr Subject: Re: OV: Let's stop now. you could always by a copy between the group and then cd-tree it about. AL all the way over here in Australia.... Del Amitri? never heard of 'em - - "I think not being born is ecologically responsible." - Alice, 'The quick & the dead' On Sat, 25 May 2002, Darren Holmquist wrote: > Just so everyone knows, Claire wasn't offering to sell copies. She doesn't > have a CD burner. She was offering to put you in touch with the guy who is > selling copies. It was just an offer of information. The morality of the > issue is now in your hands, what you do with that information. > > Attacking Claire isn't what the OV Community is about. It isn't what Jane > was doing, and I don't think it's what Joe is doing. But, let's stop it here. > > Let's go back to having a fun place to play. > > Darren > Admin. Opposite View Mailing List ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V4 #137 **********************************