From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V4 #111 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Monday, April 29 2002 Volume 04 : Number 111 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: MIssing ["Paul Naylor" ] OV: Re: Reminder - Dels on UK Radio tomorrow ["Jane Armstrong" ] Re: OV: TOTP2 this week [MinervAthene@aol.com] OV: a positive review... ["Adam Mawby" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 11:01:00 +0100 From: "Paul Naylor" Subject: OV: MIssing Well I'm annoyed. My timing has been so appalling I've missed most nuggets on the radio and TV that the Del's were on. And just before you think it couldn't get more depressing a while ago I took my real player stuff off my computer because I really didn't think I used it enough, and now most of the links to hear all the Del's stuff it's real player, bugger!! Is it available in windows media player format anywhere. Is there anywhere we could get a discography type thing of links to interviews and stuff, that would be very, very cool. I'd even look towards someone less technophobic than me showing me how I can put the real player back on my computer. As for the album. My brief synopsis of it without breaking each track down, it's fantastic. Yes it's very different and there are even a few tracks that I may not have listened originally if I'd been presented with it cold. But I've grown up with these guys. I sang with the greatest empathy ever to 'this side of the morning' when I split from my first love. While 'Sometimes I just have to say your name' was my theme tune for my second relationship, though it migrated to 'be my downfall' and 'just like a man' when she left the scene. Twisted was the backing track to the period of my life where my goal was notches on the bed post rather than anything with substance. It was my anthem. Some other suckers parade provided the introduction to my settling into an acceptance of who I was rather than who I wanted people to see me and a greater contentment. And by the time 'The best of came out' I was happy with the person I was and the album provided a synopsis of all my mental states. So my door will always be open to Del Amitri and due to my tolerance I feel my tastes evolve to accept their changes and therefore introduce to things I'd never have listened to before. Now I'm married settled and have a son, I always say I am carpet slippers, pipe and dog called sport short of a full domestic set up and yet to find a down side. Del Amitri are my comfortable slippers with whom I will always turn to. So maybe I'm closer to that picture of domesticity than I thought. Welcome back guys. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:31:52 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Re: Reminder - Dels on UK Radio tomorrow Well that was a bit of a farce! It had obviously been pre-recorded. A very brief interview with Justin and Kris as they set the gear up and then they played "She's Passing This Way" after which Justin started to say "and now we're going to play a song called "Ca....." (obviously Cash and Prizes) and they were cut off. A very poor bit of editing. The DJ guy cut Justin off in his prime and started to play some sort of S Club Juniors stuff and gave a plug for the album and single and said they were going to be touring "later this year". Yeah, like later THIS WEEK! Which he didn't say. I was out at Church during the show so I got Eddie to record it to me - but it was basically a load of chart rubbish. Now I KNOW why I don't listen to anything but Radio 4 any more! The DJ guy said something about they'd been away a very long time and Justin said "They've been keeping us quiet" - because of the "Pop wars" - Del Amitri refused to conform. Kris was asked about joining an established band and how it felt. Jane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:39:35 +0100 (BST) From: Libby Graham Subject: OV: TOTP2 this week According to The Observer: BBC2, Tuesday 30 April, 6.20pm "The first of this week's dips into the BBC's pop archives features the Rezillos, Del Amitri (who, conincidentally, are back with a fine new album Can You Do Me Good?), ........" So. it looks like it's an archive TOTP performance - which clothes horror will we get to re-live??? :-) Libby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:53:01 EDT From: MinervAthene@aol.com Subject: Re: OV: TOTP2 this week Excellent - thanks for the warning! :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:39:43 +0000 From: "Adam Mawby" Subject: OV: a positive review... Firstly can I just say that I find it amazing that people keep saying they want the same thing from the dels and that this album is just too different. I'd say that WE are all different from who we were when Waking Hours was released. (Similarly to the last email I read - sorry can't remember who) I was 14 (?) when NEH came out now, I'm 28 and married. In that time my responses to new music have changed. I don't get excited so much now, I'm finding it harder to justify buying all the singles, I've abandoned collecting bootlegs... So people who complain they aren't so excited by this new CD maybe should look at themselves instead on the music. That said I think the album is great. I really don't see it as so different. The only really different song being One More Last Hurrah. I see Drunk in a band as in the tradition of Life is full and The heart is a bad design...and I love them all. And why the criticism of Jesus saves? Are those criticizing it "believers"? As a non-believer I like the song. I can see Lennon singing it! I confess that the dels album that was the biggest disappointment to me was WH! After buying NEH and believing it to be the greatest ever single, I found WH to be a let down - I preferred 2 of the b-sides to most of the album. I still consider that album to be too produced/polished. Well that's all, Adam >From: "Phil Denson" >To: "O.V." >Subject: OV: 3 weeks, 30 spins, 2nd review >Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 07:33:26 -0500 > >OK....my first review was a bit harsh. I'm happy to say CYDMG has moved >ahead in the polls...up one, passing the Dels self titled album, it is now >in 5th place (where it will stay). > >After three weeks and non-stop listens these are my final thoughts on the >new album. > >5 really good songs (not in any order)... > >1-Drunk in a Band...should be release in the US modern market. > >2-Wash Her Away...it's similar to Cash & Prizes, which is similar to Paper >Thin but a better song than both...LOVE the GUITARS and chorus. > >3-Last Cheap Shot at the Dream...my favorite of the "new dels" style, >catchy >with some good harmonies. The only other song from CYDMG that should be >released in the US. > >4-She's Passing This Way...PURE Dels, enough said. > >5-Just Getting By...classic Justin singing about his classic pathetic >life...Classic. > >That's it...those are the 5 good songs on the album. > >...Just Before You Leave, Cash & Prizes and Buttons On my Clothes are >average songs...Buttons would have been a better song without the drum >machine...maybe better live? > > >These four I can do with out............. >One More Last Hurrah...I love the guitar intro then Justin starts to sing >and it falls apart for me. Baby It's Me...makes me squirm. Out Falls The >Past...I skip over this one the most. Jesus Saves...an angry, confused >Justin singing about something he doesn't understand...skip. > >As an album...there is no flow. Songs start funny and end even worst. >When >listening to it from beginning to end they sound as if the are crashing >into >each other. I have nothing against this style of music and have an >assortment of different styles in my CD collection. But there are to many >bands/artists that can do this style much better and call it there own. If >the band really wanted to change...they should have tried something REALLY >different. > >So there you have it...5 GOOD songs, 3 AVERAGE and 4 BAD. I give the album >as a whole a 6 out of 10 (average). I could see people who have never >heard >of the band liking CYDMG. As for me...I know what I know, have heard what >I've heard, seen the Dels play the Dels and this isn't the Dels. It's an >average attempt to be average...finally they have succeeded...at being >AVERAGE. > >Phil _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V4 #111 **********************************