From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V4 #105 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Tuesday, April 23 2002 Volume 04 : Number 105 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: Getting the album [valerie.mahon@bowker.com] OV: FYI [Bette Hanson ] OV: Spare front row ticket for Oxford concert 2 May ["Libby Graham" ] OV: JPR [SngWrite1@aol.com] OV: Is it Bacon or Bacon? [SngWrite1@aol.com] OV: Del Amitri #1 ["Homer Hinojosa" ] OV: Dels playing on Music Radio this Sunday ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: Better late than . . . ["Gary and Kathy Nelson" Subject: OV: FYI - ----------------------- Piracy Affects CD Sales - ----------------------- The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) reported that worldwide CD album sales were down 5.1% in 2001 due to Internet piracy and a paucity of hit albums. The global music sales fell 5% to $33.66 billion. This drop in CD album sales was the first such decline since music CDs were introduced in 1983. Also, for the first time since 1996, there were no five million best selling albums in the United States. The biggest 2001 hit was "Hybrid Theory" by Linkin Park selling 4.8 million copies, and the IFPI estimated that 4.3 million copies of that hit album were downloaded from the Internet illegally. Some music industry analysts think that the music industry is pointing the finger at Internet piracy to cover up the fact that they have no great music hits. Aram Sinnreich at Jupiter Communications, who watches the music industry, said that album sales were dropping in 2001 because of the "cyclical nature of the music market." He said, "Very little of it [album sales drop] can be ascribed to online music sharing." The music industry has experienced a sales decline since the annual sales total hit $40 billion in 1996. In 2001, sales in unit terms declined overall by 6.5% as follows: - - 5% decline in music CD sales. - - 10% decline in cassette sales. - - 16% decline in singles sales. The world's largest music market is the U.S., and music sales in 2001 were down 4.5%; sales down 9.2% in Germany; down 8.6% in Italy; down 9.4% in Japan. The bright spots in 2001 were France with music sales up 10% and in the United Kingdom with sales up 5%. Sales of domestic music artists were strong in the United Kingdom and France with domestic artists accounting for the top seven selling UK albums and for 18 out of the top 20 French albums. In short, there were no music international super star albums in 2001. In a related music story, even with Napster closed since July 2001, the trading of "free" music files is still going on via the Internet. But the new generation of music sharing Web sites are harder to stop because they are not based in the U.S., and they are not using central servers like Napster did. Three legal copyright infringement cases brought against web sites by the recording industry have been cited as examples of mixed legal results: - - Japan: Last week, as a result of a copyright infringement case filed by Japanese recording companies, a Japanese Court issued a temporary injunction to stop "free" music file sharing by Japan MMO, which operated a site called File Rogue. The court ruled that the Web site cannot provide users the option of downloading any songs whose copyrights are held by 19 Japanese record companies that filed the copyright infringement lawsuit. - - Netherlands: A Dutch appellate court recently ruled that users using the web site Kazaa for sharing copyrighted music were the ones violating copyrights, not the web site itself. The court observed that the site's file sharing software can be used to share legal as well as illegal files. Thus the legal burden was on the user. - - United States: In Los Angeles, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has sued three music sharing web sites: Kazaa (based in Australia, but whose software is distributed by an American company, Sharman Networks), Grokster and Morpheus (software from StreamCast Media). This case is interesting because while Napster used its own central servers to store and share music, the new generation of peer-to-peer sharing web sites do not use central servers. The users of Morpheus, Grokster or Kazaa use their own PCs to search for the music or other files they want to share from other users PC files. So, they are technically different than Napster. As Judy Jennison, a lawyer for Kazaa, commented, "The peer-to-peer systems in this case do not have central servers, like Napster." That is the difference, she said, "drilled down to its finest point." Justin Hughes, a visiting professor of law at University of California (Los Angeles), who is an expert on intellectual property law, says this technical difference in the new case makes this a more "complicated case." But he also said this does not mean the courts will rule in the web sites favor either. (New York Times, C1/C14, Wall Street Journal, B2, Apr. 17, 2002) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:04:54 +0100 From: "Libby Graham" Subject: OV: Spare front row ticket for Oxford concert 2 May Anyone interested in the above at cost price please email me off list. Otherwise I'll send Jane out to battle with the touts on the night :-) And I think Andy's new haircut is rather lovely, but then again I know I'm in a minority of one on that one. Libby (who apologises at how far behind she is in emailing people - it's all the work I'm trying to clear to enable me to go and see an obscene number of concerts). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:46:06 EDT From: MinervAthene@aol.com Subject: OV: new diary entry I usually manage to miss these - there's a new one from Iain about... um... diary entries ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:57:35 -0700 From: darren@bendcable.com Subject: RE: OV: FYI I wonder... is it piracy that's making sales go down... or if their PROFITS on cd's are down... there is a BIG difference. :) And... "A paucity of hit albums"??? They're blaming THAT on piracy? Could it be the lack of good music for the public at large to buy? I know some adults like the Britney era of electronic noise, but not all do. They won't blame themselves, so they blame the lack of business on a public that doesn't buy what they're offering, but rather gets what they DO want, (sometimes)the only way they can get it! And, I know, the majority of music buyers are probably under 18 years old... and I'm not. But, the music biz is quickly becoming a monopoly; and thankfully, the indies are getting bigger and better and are starting to play with the majors and making a dent... (Sorry, this is a poorly put together rant, but I've only got a few minutes!) - -Darren - ---- Original Message ---- >----------------------- >Piracy Affects CD Sales >----------------------- >The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) >reported that worldwide CD album sales were down 5.1% in 2001 due to >Internet piracy and a paucity of hit albums. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:52:17 EDT From: SngWrite1@aol.com Subject: OV: album credits Just some interesting things I noticed while reading the liner notes for CYDMG?... Justin DOES play bass on Just Before You Leave (so there Doug), but doesn't play bass on Cash & Prizes, Buttons On My Clothes, Baby It's Me, Last Cheap Shot, & Jesus Saves. I'm guessing Kris plays bass on JBYL live so that he'll have something to do. Could "Big Kev" who plays bass on BOMC, BIM, & LCSATD be Kevin McDermott? And also, surprisingly the guys (Bacon & Quarmby) who produced Cry To Be Found aren't the ones who produced JBYL, but did produce BOMC, BIM, & LCSATD. And inside the booklet the song is listed as "Can't Wash Her Away" but on the back cover and tray card it's "Wash Her Away". Iain co-wrote the most non-traditional (for the Dels at least ) sounding songs: JBYL, OMLH, & WHA. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:58:05 -0700 From: Kristy Subject: OV: Re: album credits > Just some interesting things I noticed while reading the liner notes for CYDMG?... > My big question is about the producers . . . Did I read Kevin Bacon correctly? Are we talking the "Six degrees of Kevin Bacon" Kevin Bacon? Like in Footloose and Murder in the First? If so - WOW!! Kristy in Canada ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:03:17 EDT From: SngWrite1@aol.com Subject: OV: JPR I looked at JPR's website - of course it's not very up to date. It shows Hugh Jones and Pete Smith (both JPR clients) as currently working on Del Amitri album tracks. The only mention of Del Amitri on the page (other than in the c.v.'s of JPR's producers) is a link to the UK site. I did look to see where their offices are located... right around the corner from the sewage works. And their record company is owned by a French sewage company. See, Del Amitri really ARE surrounded by crap! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:06:49 EDT From: SngWrite1@aol.com Subject: OV: Is it Bacon or Bacon? No, it's a different Kevin Bacon. The real question is if it still counts for Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Dave (who is only 2 steps away from the "actor" Kevin Bacon: I have sung on stage with Peter Himmelman, who did the music for a very bad Kevin Bacon film called Pyrates). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:19:26 -0500 From: "Homer Hinojosa" Subject: OV: Del Amitri #1 Hello all, I received the following as part of a newsletter from the website where I purchased my copies of the singles and new album: DEL AMITRI #1 (TO US, ANYWAY) Not much "official" news to report on the popular Scotsmen, although another UK single from the "Can You Do Me Good?" album is inevitable for later this year. However, here at Freeze Dried, we're happy to report "Can You Do Me Good?" is our No. 1 seller of the year so far. It's further proof that it's the fans, not the US record labels, who are right when it comes to the band's Stateside viability. Speculation on a US release of the LP and even a tour hasn't gone beyond that speculation stage. Keep an eye on www.delamitri.co.uk and www.delamitri.com for the latest updates. Homer. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:07:33 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Dels playing on Music Radio this Sunday According to someone on the UK Board, Del Amitri are playing live on Musicradio (which is a sort of syndicated thing to many local radio stations) on Sunday at 10 am on a programme called Mark Dennison's Sunday Morning Music Cafi. There's a site called www.musicradio.com which is where we should be able to find more details, including what local radio stations will be broadcasting it, but it is currently undergoing redevelopment. However, I have found out that my local radio station 2-Ten FM (based in the Thames Valley and broadcasting to Berkshire and North Hampshire) will be playing it and you can listen on-line at http://www.2-ten.co.uk/ Just click on the logo on the left hand side. The only problem being that it will be either very early in the morning (5am) or the middle of the night for all you in the US. I should be able to get a recording of it though to send to Darren. Cheers Jane xxx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit my home page: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea Del Amitri pages: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/Delpage.html Why not join the chat every Thursday at 9pm UK time: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/chat.html The Devlins discussion list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheDevlins ICQ No: 34643730 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:40:09 +1000 From: "Nick Short" Subject: OV: Re: New Album Review and Life story. Dear Listee's I am from Australia and are pleased to say that I have the new album, the degree of difficulty in obtaining it was 1/10. Due to the problems faced by the English folk I made a list of 10 music retailers and the first one I tried (Gaslight)Melbournites would know this store were kind enough to put it aside so I could collect it after work. It couldn't have been smoother. Listened to it all the way home, which is about 50 minutes from home in rush hour traffic, I have to say I am impressed with the new sound and direction. I cast my mind back at SOSP, most songs like these new ones didn't jump of the page (and SOSP is now one of my fav albums). Wash Her Away, Last Cheap Shot At The Dream, Buttons, Jesus Saves are the standouts. With Wash Her Away being the clear winner very 'Your Gone' from Waking Hours mixed with 'a little luck'. Drunk in a Band should be released in the US. I love the surprise musical ending to Just Getting By and She's Passing this Way surprised me with its optimistic start and drained conclusion. But Baby It's Me is sheer album filler. Belong,Belong or Unbeliever should be in its place. Cash and Prizes = Paper Thin 2 Was reading the lyrics, Justin is back on form but once the faithful learns to appreciate the sample orientated arrangements the album can be appreciated. A new album is like experiencing pain and joy, no one really knows accurately how they felt in the past when putting on CE or Twisted we tend to wear the rose coloured glasses of the past, give it a try. But it has been 5 years since their last full studio album and my musical tastes have changed a lot but the album is good. Will listen to again in the car on the way home. Cheers. Nick _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:18:50 -0400 From: "Rosemary Lucas" Subject: OV: separated at birth SngWrite@aol.com wrote, Is it me or does Andy look like Brian Eno in those new pictures? I would have to say he's 'Dr. Evil' from Austin Powers!!! JPR get your hand out of your pants and book the Dels onto the new AP soundtrack/movie, due out this summer. And Iain, in that same set of pics, is this strange morph of Don Felder and Glen Frey from the Eagles. --- Rosemary Lucas--- prudencetofu@earthlink.net--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:18:02 -0500 From: "Gary and Kathy Nelson" Subject: OV: Better late than . . . My CD finally came in today's mail (HMV UK/mail -- took a while). You don't know how frustrating it has been to read the comments of all who got to listen to it weeks ago while I waited for my copy. But, anyway, have to weigh in with my opinion: Love it! It has a different sound from previous albums, but the melodies, vocals, and harmonies ring very familiar. My 2nd listen through is just over, and I think it could very well become my favorite DA CD. Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:01:15 -0500 From: Leah D Schenkenberg Subject: OV: anticipation and chopsticks I had a date planned with Herman Melville, Moby Dick, and the book of Job tonight, along with the MLA guidelines for research citations, but I came to find Justin Currie on my doorstep wearing a white envelope and a well placed customs sticker. So we got chinese take out and sat cross legged on the floor, one hand working the chopsticks (it only took me the duration of the 7 songs to eat my rice) and the other holding the liner notes. This is my first new del amitri album...I've played quite a bit of catch up "new to me" albums in the past 4 years, but never quite like this, where I sat and read all the words as it went. I like it. I don't psychotically love it, yet, but I didn't like Waking Hours or Twisted when I first heard them either. the main beef about this album: the endings to each song leave much to be desired. Justin used to improve my posture when the last chord rang... Like something was tied to me, and I had to shift my weight as he slammed the door... I think of Be my Downfall, Might as well be you, what I think she sees, nothing ever happens, whiskey remorse, I Was always wishing for one more note, one more line, a silent little whimper that made me skip backwards to hear the track once more. The compulsion is the same here....to skip backwards and hear the real part of the song again, or to skip forward over the excess tag. something about it just rubs me wrong. the only one that really ties up nicely is out falls the past...the words are nice, the music is ok, but together, I don't know. reminds me of orbitz. anyone remember orbitz? it was cool when I Was in junior high for about two weeks...this syrupy water with floating....*things*....in it. Maybe they were both fine on their own, but together, it just isn't as good an idea as the two on their own. Likewise, Just getting by would play on repeat every night as I slept if it didn't have that *thing* on the end. Minor secondary beef: Baby, it's me I don't like his attempts at sap. Well, Sometimes I just have....name is fabulous, but this is too much like Mother Nature's Writing and Through all that Nothing. Well, except for that lovely "full of themselves but with a hole where you aren't". That's the only thing that redeems it to "minor secondary beef." Not even a beef, just a disappointment: She's passing this way is so beautiful, and the 20 seconds there's enough silence to hear the piano has fulfilled my piano-based song need for awhile..but I'd love to hear this more acoustically, with just the keys and Justin. the main beef with new albums in general: I'm always frightened I'll have to share my pet bands with the undeserving masses...For what it's worth, This is the only album that has songs I can actually imagine being sung in Minneapolis coffee houses by the college artists I find myself surrounded by, complete in their fake dreadlocks and stylishly cuffed jeans. One more Last Hurrah is sooooooooo SE University album...And Cash and Prizes (which I like very much) is very Lake and Lyndale by skinny boys in chunky framed glasses with their floppy hair curling out from beneath their $2 Salvation Army stocking hats (or not...do any other Twin Cities folks get that feeling?) Then Justin opened a fortune cookie and said: Happy events will soon take place in your home. So I ate a lime popsicle. A good date, overall. Far better than my last real one... Leah ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:29:03 -0700 From: Peter Palmer Subject: OV: Sounds like a decent price. Anyone in the US should try ordering their imports from Ian at Changes One. ian@changesone.co.uk I think I paid $16.00 and that included shipping. Peter ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V4 #105 **********************************