From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V4 #88 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Saturday, April 6 2002 Volume 04 : Number 088 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: Re: Andrew's video question (PAL/NTSC conversions) ["George Carlston] OV: OT [Eileen_Rose] US dates ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: Review and Interview ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: On-line interview ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: Re: On-line interview ["the Gardners" ] OV: TOURING [sun6@bolt.com] OV: Re: Review and Interview ["Hilary Gray" ] RE: OV: TOURING [darren@bendcable.com] OV: Re: Re: Review and Interview ["Andrew Douglas" Subject: OV: Re: Andrew's video question (PAL/NTSC conversions) Hi All, De lurking for a moment... I bought the Hatful and Change videos in England. Both of them are copy protected, so if you get a conversion it might not look that good. I converted mine at work and they turned out ok, but not great. Unless your converter has a way to deal with the protection, the final product will be so-so. (I'd buy it again if they'd only release it here! DVD anyone..?) Now for my two pence... The only album so far that I've liked out of the box was Waking Hours. When Change was released I was SOOO disappointed on the first listen, but a funny thing happened; I ended up listening to it again immediately. Then a third time. Within a few days I loved it, and each release since has found the pattern repeating itself. (I even got past the mix/mastering on SOSP!) I've always had the impression that this band makes music to please themselves. The things I've heard Justin and Ian say lead me to believe I'm correct in that assumption. If that means challenging themselves and their fans with each creation, then I'm happy to go along for the ride. (Cry wasn't my favorite, but contrary to some here I do like it...) I have such strong opinions on any given subject that I'm bound to disagree with most people at least some of the time, musically or otherwise, but I've learned to never let that get in the way of enjoying a good song. This band writes better songs than anyone releasing music today. When the mail arrives I'll be giving this new one a chance as well. The odds are in its favor. Alright, I'm done now. George from Burbank now in New York ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:31:11 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: OT [Eileen_Rose] US dates I know there are a few Eileen Rose fans on this list - and she's doing a tour of the US during April and May - the following was posted to the Eileen Rose list. Hopefully some of you will be able to get to see her. If so, I'd love to hear your impressions. Cheers Jane Here're Eileen's upcoming dates in America. The first four are solo, the ones with Frank Black may be with a band - not sure yet. Feel free to pass this on to any connections in the US. April 6: The Paradise, Boston (With Paul Kelly & Freedy Johnson) April 13: Joe's Pub, NYC April 15: The Saint, Asbury Park, New Jersey April 24: Mercury Lounge, NYC The following are with Frank Black April 26: Juanita's, Little Rock, Arkansas April 27: Phoenix Hill Tavern, Louisville, Kentucky April 28: Double Door, Chicago April 29: Double Door, Chicago April 30: Rococo Theatre, Lincoln, Nebraska May 1: Bottleneck, Lawrence, Kansas May 3: Launchpad, Albuquerque, New Mexico May 5: Knitting Factory, Los Angeles ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Eileen's website at http://www.tugboatrecords.com/index.html?eileenrose.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:27:44 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Review and Interview There's a full-page interview with Iain and Justin and a review in today's Independent newspaper. Typically, someone on the Eileen Rose list posted it and I saw it two minutes after I'd got in from the shops!! But I dashed out and got the last copy. Haven't read it yet as I've only just come back - but it looks good. If anyone comes across and articles could you please let us know on OV as early in the day as possible so that people can go out during their lunch hour and get a copy. Cheers Jane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit my home page: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea Del Amitri pages: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/Delpage.html Why not join the chat every Thursday at 9pm UK time: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/chat.html The Devlins discussion list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheDevlins ICQ No: 34643730 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:41:31 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: On-line interview The interview in today's Independent is also available on their website at: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=281971 Enjoy! Jane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit my home page: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea Del Amitri pages: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/Delpage.html Why not join the chat every Thursday at 9pm UK time: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/chat.html The Devlins discussion list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheDevlins ICQ No: 34643730 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:26:47 -0500 From: "the Gardners" Subject: OV: Re: On-line interview - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Armstrong" To: "Dels" Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:41 AM Subject: OV: On-line interview > The interview in today's Independent is also available on their website at: > http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=281971 > Enjoy! > Jane This interview is absolutely brillant!!! Thank you, my friend! And I quote: "Ian: "The new album Can You Do Me Good? will piss 'em off because it's not just guitars, drums, bass and keyboards. There's a certain cross-section of the record buying public who think that anything else is heresy..." Justin: "Some of our fans are very purist that way. They don't like modern noises. And some of them seem to have a complete antipathy towards anything to do with soul music. We tried it once before and we got letters saying, 'This is disgusting - you sound like Wet Wet Wet!' We were, of course, trying to sound like the BeeGees." The boys have been reading our posts, folks, as well as the discussion areas on the web sites I think! What a hoot! I confess I was beginning to pout at reports of a lack of the familiar guitar bits, and now I feel a bit embarassed at my selfishness. I can't wait to get my hands on this album. TTFN Susan www.sggardner.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:07:05 -0800 (PST) From: sun6@bolt.com Subject: OV: TOURING I Admit I should know this by now, but I havn't had the time to read all the ov emails or really check in on the del site. It seem that the dels will not be touring the u.s. this year, am I right ??!! please tell me I am wrong :-( - -Anjule - ------------------------------------------------------- Bolt. Everything you need to speak your mind, hang out, hook up ... whatever. Tagbooks , Bolt Notes , message boards, personality quizzes, photos, free stuff and lots more! http://www.bolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:16:56 +0100 From: "Hilary Gray" Subject: OV: Re: Review and Interview I managed to secure the last three copies of the Independent on the way home, so I have two copies going spare to the first two people to mail me . Another good review for the album, it seems to be going down well with the critics. On the matter of having to sell 300K copies of the album to stay in business, please could someone put this into context - how many did the other albums sell, and how many do other bands sell? The interviewer seemed to be under the impression that 300,000 was rather a lot. Cheers, Hilary - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Armstrong" To: "Dels" Sent: 05 April 2002 15:27 Subject: OV: Review and Interview There's a full-page interview with Iain and Justin and a review in today's Independent newspaper. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:17:58 -0800 From: darren@bendcable.com Subject: RE: OV: TOURING Anjule, Nothing is set yet. Justin hinted at the possibilty of some kind of a tour. - ---- Original Message ---- >It seem that the dels will not be touring the u.s. this >year, am I right ??!! >please tell me I am wrong ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:50:44 +0100 From: "Andrew Douglas" Subject: OV: Re: Re: Review and Interview 300,000 is quite a lot. It means that the album needs to go Platinum in the UK. Change Everything went platinum but I don't think Twisted or SOSP did, could be wrong there though. It's definately not out of the question though, Starsailors album has just gone platinum and I don't think they're THAT popular. A mercury music award would help, win one of those and you're a cert to get at least a double platinum :) andrew - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Gray" To: "OV" Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: OV: Re: Review and Interview > I managed to secure the last three copies of the Independent on the way > home, so I have two copies going spare to the first two people to mail me . > > Another good review for the album, it seems to be going down well with the > critics. On the matter of having to sell 300K copies of the album to stay > in business, please could someone put this into context - how many did the > other albums sell, and how many do other bands sell? The interviewer seemed > to be under the impression that 300,000 was rather a lot. > > Cheers, > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Armstrong" > To: "Dels" > Sent: 05 April 2002 15:27 > Subject: OV: Review and Interview > > > There's a full-page interview with Iain and Justin and a review in today's > Independent newspaper. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 10:18:59 +0100 From: "Kevin Cawthorne" Subject: OV: RE: Re: Review and Interview > put this into context - how many did the other albums sell, > and how many do other bands sell? The interviewer seemed to > be under the impression that 300,000 was rather a lot. > Hi Without going into too much detail, I have the midweek sales on every release. The number one album midweek is Celine Dion who has sold 27,000 odd. Now 51 has sold over 69,000 (compilation charts). Single-wise, Gareth "I'm a popidol" Gates has sold over 40,000 and is number one at the moment - Closest to him is Miss Spears at just under 20,000 Unfortunatley I am not allowed to tell you mid-week sales for the single, but a few more are needed to make the Dels top 20, put it that way. Kevin Cawthorne Webmaster - The Official Del Amitri Website UK http://www.delamitri.co.uk - ------------------------------------------------------ This message and any attachment has been virus checked - ------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oppositeview@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-oppositeview@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Hilary Gray > Sent: 05 April 2002 19:17 > To: OV > Subject: OV: Re: Review and Interview > > > I managed to secure the last three copies of the Independent > on the way home, so I have two copies going spare to the > first two people to mail me . > > Another good review for the album, it seems to be going down > well with the critics. On the matter of having to sell 300K > copies of the album to stay in business, please could someone > put this into context - how many did the other albums sell, > and how many do other bands sell? The interviewer seemed to > be under the impression that 300,000 was rather a lot. > > Cheers, > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Armstrong" > To: "Dels" > Sent: 05 April 2002 15:27 > Subject: OV: Review and Interview > > > There's a full-page interview with Iain and Justin and a > review in today's Independent newspaper. ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V4 #88 *********************************