From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V3 #150 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Friday, June 22 2001 Volume 03 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: OV People is great!! ["Teresa Arellano" ] OV: New Album & a Comment on Songs [Richardg8@aol.com] OV: ...interesting find... [Andrew Turner ] Re: OV: OV People is great!! [Debbie Cushing ] OV: Del Amitri concerts [Dirk.Wonhoefer@eberle-augsburg.de] OV: A sad day [Hopping James W ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:12:02 From: "Teresa Arellano" Subject: OV: OV People is great!! Hi, Since I put my first message on the Opposite View Mailing List, Ive got some very nice answers, and Id like to thank you all to be so kind and friendly. I am really surprised of so many people who answers me!!!!. Its great! I love that, because Ive been so many time feeling that I was the only one over there who loved Del Amitris music that now I am delighted to see that they are appreciate all over the world. And I can realize that Dels lovers are really interesting people to deal with. Same musical interests, same sensitivity... Thank you everybody!!!! ;-) I can see too that many of you seem to have met in person Del Amitri members. You lucky guys!!! How can you manage to talk to them after a show, or to have lunch with them? I know some of the B-Sides because I got some CDSingles in London some years ago. So I knew Whiskey remorse, Lighten up the load, Bye, bye pride, Angel on the roof, No holding on, Slowly it is coming back, and others little gems. I agree with you: they are so good as the others songs included in their albums (or even better). All over Del Amitri work is a sort of charm that makes so used and handled subjects as love or breaking-off, sound more true, brilliant and sincere than ever. The first time I listened to them was on a TV show, singing Nothing ever happens. It was unforgettable, and even now that song makes me feel the same emotion. After that, I got Waking hours and Change Everything, my favorite albums, and I could see that they would be my favorite band forever, the rest of my life. I like other people in music too, but Del Amitri has the honor place in my heart, and if Id have to save only two CDs of my collection, itd be one of theirs and another one of Bruce Springsteen. Theyve been here in Spain at least once, but, as they are so unknown, I never got to know, and I missed the show. I expect that now, with all this Internet stuff, Ill have more information, and Ill can go to see them. Keep on with the rhythm on your guitars and your hand on your heart, lads!!! (I dont know if you, Del Amitri members, read all this stuff, buy anyway, who knows?) :-) All the best!!! Teresa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:16:17 EDT From: Richardg8@aol.com Subject: OV: New Album & a Comment on Songs Hi all: De-lurking momentarily. Welcome to our newbies. I am so excited about the album news, I can hardly stand it. Assuming it will be released in only the UK at first, what would we need to do to arrange for purchase and transport to get it in the hands of us Yanks and the Aussies, French, Canadians, etc.? (what an international list, eh?)Will it go up for sale immediately on Amazon or CD-Now, and others? A song comment: Has it ever occured to anyone else that the songs "Empty" and "When I want You" could be flip-sides of the same situation. When I Want You from the point of view of the jilted ex-lover, who is angry and out for revenge, and Empty from the new lover's point of view, tinged with some guilt and just a little smugness that he got the girl? Just a point for discussion. I have del's "Twisted", Coldplay "Parachutes", and The Devlin's "Waiting" in my CD player. Back to the hidden world of "The Lurker". Richard "The world could be perfect, even if we are not, If everything is forgiven, even if not forgot" Darden Smith - Loving Arms ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:12:45 +0100 From: Andrew Turner Subject: OV: ...interesting find... Hello all, I am new to this here community, so apologies if what follows is old hat. Having just moved house at frightful expense and inconvenience, I have been delving deep into the bowels of my voluminous and long-won record collection. Now I knew I had the following tapes, but had rather forgotten about them - and certainly were unsure where they were to be located [BTW, I also know I have the original letters from Jackie Gribbon that came with them - no doubt they will turn up in due course]. Not really sure why I am telling people all what follows, but it may be of interest to the trainspottersout there!! Anyway, I have three tapes: One is dated 28/3/83 and is of four 2-track mono recordings of: Sense Sickness The Difference Is Women At The Door Blushes Paul Tyagi, Justin Currie, Iain Harvie, Bryan Tolland. It refers to it being the property of 3rd of July Music, Virginia Court, 46 Miller Street, Glasgow, G1 1DZ. Management is Jackie Gribbon [with whom I had conversations and letter-exchanges about that time -- I was then doing work for Charisma (old Genesis label owned by the late Tony Stratton-Smith; and which was subsequently bought by Virgin) or possibly IRS (old Police label owned by former CIA spy and brother to Stewart, Miles Copeland) and interested in signing the band. Another dated December 1981 entitled 'the sound of 29 guitars' recorded on a Revox A-77 2-track which has demos of: What She Calls It Penelope Tired of Waiting cover of Ray Davies/Kinks song] Summer Woman of Fifty Like Father Footfall Paul Tyagi, Justin Currie, Donald ?, James?. The third is 'four live numbers': The Fabulous Pacific: live at Joanna's 19th May 1982 "awful PA -2nd of 3 bands, reverb unit bust, but...we survived" Penelope: live at Glasgow University QMU 11th February 1982 "huge hall great PA, not many people, benefit for cruelty to kiddies etc" Wipeout: same time, same place etc Tired of Waiting [cover]: at Vaudeville Cafe 13th February 1982 "vocal PA only". I am in Glasgow at the weekend so I may see if any of these dives are still around. I guess not, but... Cheers, Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:48:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Debbie Cushing Subject: Re: OV: OV People is great!! !Hola Teresa! Well, the first time I met Del Amitri was when Justin, Iain & Andy were doing a sort of mini tour for "Change Everything." I think they were mainly doing little gigs for radio stations and the record label. Anyway, my sister had quite a few friends at the different record labels, and the A&M rep just happened to be one of them, so I was invited to the record label party. If I'm remembering correctly, we talked to Iain first. My sister had notice that his fly was open while they were playing and asked if I thought she should tell him. I thought so, otherwise he'd be walking around all night like that. We were all a little tipsy, but not too much, just enough to take the edge off and get our courage up. I just walked up to Justin and we started chatting about a trip I had planned to take to Dublin & Glasgow. (My dad was doing work for The Hard Rock at the time and U2 was attempting to open a restaurant in Dublin, hence I was invited to go with Dad.) Justin gave me some wonderful advice about where to go and what to see in the two towns. I ended up not going at the time, though, because U2 couldn't get their liquor license for the location they wanted or something like that. NO problem, though, 'cause it was during the time that U2 were crap and I probably would have said so to Bono if I'd had the chance. Anyway, I ended up going on another similar trip later and went to the places Justin had suggested and they were brilliant. I'd also suggested to him a venue they should try to play the next time they came to Dallas as a full band...and they did...twice! It was there that I met them a second and third time. They're remarkably easy to talk to, at least they were 5 or 6 years ago. I hung around for a bit in the bar after the show and the guys just mingled a bit, so it wasn't difficult to approach them. I'm supposing though, that you're seeing them in larger venues, though, so that might be more tricky. I hope you do get to meet them, though, they're nice guys from what I recall. :-) Have a good day! debbie Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:51:56 +0200 From: Dirk.Wonhoefer@eberle-augsburg.de Subject: OV: Del Amitri concerts Hi all! I'm a newbie to this mailinglist, but it's a very cool thing! I am really impressed! The Dels have got the best fans around! It's amazing how much people there are doing nice things for other Del fans. Wow! When I started collecting Dels stuff a few years ago (1996 or so?) I had nothing but the four albums and the 'Roll to me' single. Then I met some people on the internet (people like YOU) who helped me out with many songs, and just one year later I was the owner of almost all b-sides and quite a good collection of live concerts. From this day on, I traded via the net, and my collection of concerts, shows and interviews grew and grew. Now I am the one who got more concerts than most other fans, I am the one who gets mails: Can you please send me your MP3 collection? Well, I'm happy when I can help other fans with my songs, and the coolest way I discovered for that is the internet: On my homepage www.delamitri.de I upload a new concert every week (wednesdays). The visitors of my site can vote which concert should be up next, and I also upload sold out b-sides and rare stuff. Some people don't understand why I won't upload songs that can still be baught, but that's their problem. I think a real fan should support his band as much as he can do! And that means to buy everything that's out on the market... :-) Some of you may already know my homepage and have seen the way it evolved. I started my MP3-section with Fortunecity, uploading all my MP3's there. I got banned and moved to 'Myspace', which had so much errors that it was pure luck if someone got the chance to download the songs. Then I discovered iDrive, which offered unlimited webspace. It worked quite good for a few months, til it suddenly closed. Now I am uploading only one concert per week to my own webspace, because I merely got 50 MB (of which 20 MB are used for my homepage :-)). So if you all are looking for some new Dels stuff, come to my site! :-) I am always on the look for new stuff which I will add my collection. So if you like to share your Del Amitri recordings (concerts, radio shows, etc...) with every other fan, you can send it to me (I am willing to trade as well) and I will upload it to my site. I hope I don't bothered you all with this mail. I don't know how you handle this mailing list, is it for everyone to tell what he like or are there some special topics? Anyway, I am dying to hear the new songs... yours, Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:45:04 +0100 From: Hopping James W Subject: OV: A sad day Couldn't let the day go without a mention of the great John Lee Hooker, who I heard on the news has died today. He along with the likes of Jimi Hendrix can be truly seen as one of the great guitarists of the 20th Century. He was indeed one of the reasons I picked up the guitar in the first place. In music there is a mount Olympus where the gods of music sit and he will now be enthroned at the top. Ask any of todays rock/blues/pop guitarists who their influences were and John Lee Hooker will never be far from their lips. At least for once the old adage has been disproved. It's not only the good that die young. God rest his soul. Now altogether.... ....' A boom, boom, boom, boom.' Jim ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V3 #150 **********************************