From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V3 #87 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Sunday, April 1 2001 Volume 03 : Number 087 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: RE: Re: why alison is going to cry ["Kevin Cawthorne" Subject: OV: RE: Re: why alison is going to cry If the UK people remember the vocal group, the Flying Pickets, then you have an idea already! oh dear, pass the tissues, Alison! Kevin Cawthorne www.delamitri.co.uk - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oppositeview@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oppositeview@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Debs Sent: 30 March 2001 20:44 To: Alison Bellach; Opposite View Subject: OV: Re: why alison is going to cry Is it really that bad? I will leave it for now then, ;o) Dean > the duke pitchforks covering del amitri's always the last to know. > acapella. > > want it? i'll send you the mp3... if you dare > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com > http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com > "If you want peace, work for justice." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:35:15 +0100 From: "Andrew Douglas" Subject: OV: Re: why alison is going to cry My only disappointment is that they didn't attempt Iain's guitar solo! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Bellach" To: "Opposite View" Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: OV: why alison is going to cry > the duke pitchforks covering del amitri's always the last to know. > acapella. > > want it? i'll send you the mp3... if you dare > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com > http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com > "If you want peace, work for justice." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:17:33 EST From: Moer4472@aol.com Subject: Re: OV: why alison is going to cry Okay maybe I am just strange, but........ It sounds pretty cool to me!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:33:18 -0600 From: "Jen Woyan" Subject: OV: RollingStone.com - More on selling the dream.... http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=13559 The Digital Beat Pawning the Napster Dream Rip. Mix. Burn. These are the buzzwords for the new iMac campaign from Apple. You can see it on billboards around the country. There's a shiny, happy picture of a flowery new Apple computer next to what is essentially a battle cry for Generation N. Yes, Napster. Apple is the first company to build an ad campaign on the Napster hype. It might seem good for business, but in the end, it's disingenuous and, worse, damaging in what it purports. It's time for Apple -- and other companies looking to sell the digital music dream -- to get real or get off the bandwagon. I mean, come on: Rip, Mix, Burn? What a crock. Who buys a computer to rip (read: convert) their CD songs into MP3 files? Not many people other than hardcore geeks. Apple's ad is clearly going for the jugular for the millions of people who compulsively downloaded new tunes from Napster, tunes they want to play on their car and home stereos. Apple's approach is kind of like a head shop selling bongs "for tobacco use only." What good is a hookah without the ganja? Apple isn't the only company pawning the Napster dream. Intel, Sony, and even IBM have all been heavily promoting products built around the quick and fast pleasures of digital music. But none of them are copping to the fact that the digital music everyone wants is all the illegal stuff. This is just plain hypocritical. Here you've got these major corporations trying to shut down Napster while others are pawning warez that really only appeal to bootleggers. What are the ill effects of all this? The consumer -- and I'm talking about the newbie, not the skate punks -- gets confused about what digital music really is like online. The ads suggest that digital music is fun, easy and interesting. In reality, it's challenging, technical and often mundane. Beyond Napster, online music still takes a degree of willfulness on the part of the consumer. Someone has to actively seek out the music. It's not just plug n' play. And the music that really is plug n' play is often by unknown bands that most people could care less about in the first place. In the long run, companies selling MP3 hardware are going to need the music industry to deliver a fun, easy and interesting content for the average consumers. That means that the RIAA and friends will have to accept the fact that ripping, mixing and burning is here to stay. And that the Napster economy is a part of life. Instead of trying to shut the movement down, they need to get hip, come clean and give the people what they want. Ultimately, the Apple could further stoke this flame under the music executives' hard drives. But if/when Napster goes down, Apple and the rest might have to answer to consumers with nothing to burn but their receipts. DAVID KUSHNER (March 26, 2001) [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of spacer.gif] ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V3 #87 *********************************