From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V3 #40 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Saturday, February 10 2001 Volume 03 : Number 040 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: OV: The death of the album ["Michael Holt" ] RE: OV: The death of the album [Hopping James W ] OV: The Fast Show ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: weeds, trees, bushes, and plants ["George Carlston" ] OV: RE: weeds ["Michael Holt" ] Re: OV: weeds, trees, bushes, and plants [Mitch ] OV: Iain's diary ["Jane Armstrong" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:37:18 +1000 From: "Michael Holt" Subject: RE: OV: The death of the album Personally I think the Dels have a habit of mking track 10 the good one...just a theory though... Take care, Michael : ) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oppositeview@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oppositeview@smoe.org]On Behalf Of James.Hopping@icl.com Sent: Friday, 2 February 2001 7:28 To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: RE: OV: The death of the album I remember a discussion on a radio station several weeks ago (BBC Radio 1 I think) about this very subject and they were saying that good tracks always seem to come around 5 or 6 on an album and wondering if this was to do with the way that often the first track on side two was always a killer in the past. What do you reckon? Jim - -----Original Message----- From: Jen Woyan [mailto:jenwoyan@xsite.net] Sent: 02 February 2001 05:45 To: Aleksandr; Chuck Simmons Cc: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: OV: The death of the album I have to agree re: track placement - why else would virtually every teenager/college student going back 20+ years spend more time making mix tapes/CD's than studying? But I've noticed Track 4 standing out over the years...I think I made a mix tape for someone's b-day based upon that principle. Cheers, Jen - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleksandr" To: "Chuck Simmons" Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:27 PM Subject: Re: OV: The death of the album > Hm. that's true enough. I do rememebr certain album sides sucking so bad > that you'd think they were different bands. > > And remember 'High Fidelity' and Rob (Cusack) telling us how important it > was to have the right song in the right place when you make a tape - > albums must work on the same principle. > > Anyone noticed a trend for certain bands to put killer tracks in the same > place on the album? Most notable for me is marc cohn - track 11 is always > a fantastic track.... > > Cheers, > > AL > > - > "It is better to travel alone than with a fool, but what may two fools > do?" > > I don't understand the question. It's the rest of the world that's strange. > -- Impulse > > To all those people who call me paranoid. I'm not. So there. > > http://turn.to/the_ALpha > > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Chuck Simmons wrote: > > > Kelly wrote: > > > > "In light of a comment Alison made, let me say that I've done the same > > thing: There might not be a physical Del Amitri CD on the list above, > > but that's because I, too, have converted all of their CDs to MP3s which > > live on my computer for convenient listening. I have playlists of the > > albums individually, but what's really fun is putting the "all albums > > together" list on shuffle and enjoying a good mix." > > > > I've always been a big fan of the album format, but I'm worried that we will > > see its end in the next ten years. MP3s, and even CD changers seem to have > > sucked a lot of the life out of a continuous string of songs. When the > > album disappears, I'll be sad. There is something beautiful and creative to > > album sequencing, especially for a really great album (picture Waking Hours > > starting with Nothing Ever Happens or Empty). The "album side" went away > > long ago (U2's War, side one, is probably my favorite of all time), and the > > album will be next. > > > > What do you think? Is there hope in the long-term future? > > > > Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:10:04 -0000 From: Hopping James W Subject: RE: OV: The death of the album This would mean... Breaking Bread Nothing ever happens As soon as the tide comes in Never enough Funny way to win Hmmm not sure... Jim - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Holt [mailto:dabsitw@smartchat.net.au] Sent: 09 February 2001 13:37 To: James.Hopping@icl.com; oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: RE: OV: The death of the album Personally I think the Dels have a habit of mking track 10 the good one...just a theory though... Take care, Michael : ) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oppositeview@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oppositeview@smoe.org]On Behalf Of James.Hopping@icl.com Sent: Friday, 2 February 2001 7:28 To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: RE: OV: The death of the album I remember a discussion on a radio station several weeks ago (BBC Radio 1 I think) about this very subject and they were saying that good tracks always seem to come around 5 or 6 on an album and wondering if this was to do with the way that often the first track on side two was always a killer in the past. What do you reckon? Jim - -----Original Message----- From: Jen Woyan [mailto:jenwoyan@xsite.net] Sent: 02 February 2001 05:45 To: Aleksandr; Chuck Simmons Cc: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: OV: The death of the album I have to agree re: track placement - why else would virtually every teenager/college student going back 20+ years spend more time making mix tapes/CD's than studying? But I've noticed Track 4 standing out over the years...I think I made a mix tape for someone's b-day based upon that principle. Cheers, Jen - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleksandr" To: "Chuck Simmons" Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:27 PM Subject: Re: OV: The death of the album > Hm. that's true enough. I do rememebr certain album sides sucking so bad > that you'd think they were different bands. > > And remember 'High Fidelity' and Rob (Cusack) telling us how important it > was to have the right song in the right place when you make a tape - > albums must work on the same principle. > > Anyone noticed a trend for certain bands to put killer tracks in the same > place on the album? Most notable for me is marc cohn - track 11 is always > a fantastic track.... > > Cheers, > > AL > > - > "It is better to travel alone than with a fool, but what may two fools > do?" > > I don't understand the question. It's the rest of the world that's strange. > -- Impulse > > To all those people who call me paranoid. I'm not. So there. > > http://turn.to/the_ALpha > > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Chuck Simmons wrote: > > > Kelly wrote: > > > > "In light of a comment Alison made, let me say that I've done the same > > thing: There might not be a physical Del Amitri CD on the list above, > > but that's because I, too, have converted all of their CDs to MP3s which > > live on my computer for convenient listening. I have playlists of the > > albums individually, but what's really fun is putting the "all albums > > together" list on shuffle and enjoying a good mix." > > > > I've always been a big fan of the album format, but I'm worried that we will > > see its end in the next ten years. MP3s, and even CD changers seem to have > > sucked a lot of the life out of a continuous string of songs. When the > > album disappears, I'll be sad. There is something beautiful and creative to > > album sequencing, especially for a really great album (picture Waking Hours > > starting with Nothing Ever Happens or Empty). The "album side" went away > > long ago (U2's War, side one, is probably my favorite of all time), and the > > album will be next. > > > > What do you think? Is there hope in the long-term future? > > > > Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:52:49 -0000 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: The Fast Show I know the Dels appeared on the Fast Show - but I've never managed to catch that episode. Can anyone tell me which series/episode it was? I want to buy the video. Cheers Jane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Join us for our weekly chat - 9pm GMT Thursdays (now with voice) on http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/chat.html Please note my new URL: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea Del Amitri Pages: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/Delpage.html Join The Devlins Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedevlins/join ICQ # 34643730 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:50:24 -0800 From: "George Carlston" Subject: OV: weeds, trees, bushes, and plants With regards to the Radio 2 show, I'd be happy to pass on 4 cd's to those with burners, and a few to those without. Anything and everything Dels, (so long as it's ok'd material :-) And while I wait for a reply... My changer today has: Homemade Dels B-side comp. (and yes, track order is VERY important!) Morten Harket, "Wild Seed" Cracker, "Cracker" The Babys, "Head First" The Beatles, "Revolver" Have a great weekend, everybody! George in Burbank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:34:44 -0800 From: Kristy McDonald Subject: OV: weeds Note to George - I'd be in for a piece of that. I am more or less unfamiliar with weeds, but I do have a burner, and I'd be more than happy to reproduce for all of you out there who want copies of Del stuff! Call me a lean, mean weedin' machine. Happy Friday! Kristy in Canada ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:51:58 +1000 From: "Michael Holt" Subject: OV: RE: weeds Call me ignorant but what the hell is all this "weeds" stuff? Sorry...having a blonde year... Take care, Michael : ) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-oppositeview@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oppositeview@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Kristy McDonald Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 10:35 To: George Carlston Cc: oppositeview@smoe.org Subject: OV: weeds Note to George - I'd be in for a piece of that. I am more or less unfamiliar with weeds, but I do have a burner, and I'd be more than happy to reproduce for all of you out there who want copies of Del stuff! Call me a lean, mean weedin' machine. Happy Friday! Kristy in Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: Mitch Subject: Re: OV: weeds, trees, bushes, and plants > with burners, and a few to those without. Anything and everything Dels, (so > long as it's ok'd material :-) > i'm always ready to fire up my burner a good weed. oh wait -- i've said too much. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:07:58 -0000 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Iain's diary Iain's just posted the first entry from the US in the diary on Kev's site - you can read it at http://www.delamitri.co.uk/diary.php Jane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Join us for our weekly chat - 9pm GMT Thursdays (now with voice) on http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/chat.html Please note my new URL: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea Del Amitri Pages: http://www.delamitri.co.uk/~janea/Delpage.html Join The Devlins Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedevlins/join ICQ # 34643730 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V3 #40 *********************************