From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V3 #10 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Thursday, January 11 2001 Volume 03 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V3 #9 [Peter Stanley ] OV: Grammies [Leah Schenkenberg ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:34:19 -0800 From: Peter Stanley Subject: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V3 #9 "Don Henley Must Die" -courtesy of Mojo Nixon, the fine fella that bought the world "Elvis is Everywhere"... Cheers, Peter [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of peterstanley.vcf] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:59:14 -0500 From: Jon Hammer Subject: OV: Grammies and taste in music At 04:50 AM 1/10/01, Debbie wrote: >Ugh not Steely Dan! I seem to remember Justin wincing >when I asked him how he felt about an article I'd read >in a magazine (maybe Entertainment Weekly) where the >Dels were compared to Steely Dan. You might not want >to tell him how you feel about them if you ever meet >Justin. LOL I don't know who would compare del amitri to Steely Dan, but we're talking apples and oranges. I don't blame Justin for wincing. Whoever did that clearly had no clue as to what they were talking about. And I'll defend Steely Dan to the end. Their music was such a contrast to what was being produced in the mid '70's (RE:disco). Saw them in concert a few years ago in a small hurricane and they were excellent. I'm sorely tempted to go into a rant, but won't. There's a perception of them that's just wrong. >Who did that song "Don Henley Must Die"? Anyone >remember? Jon, buddy, looks like you're a bit stuck >in the 70's genre of bad music. It could be worse, I >suppose, you could be praising Journey, REO >Speedwagon, or Foreigner. LOL Not the '70's. The '80's maybe. There's a station here in Columbus that is all '80's, all the time. They broadcast on the web (http://www.star1079.com) for any who are '80's music fans. I heard After the Fire's version of Der Kommisar the other day and it didn't sound half bad. But then they'll turn around and play some really crappy '80's stuff, so there's always a tradeoff. As for Journey, don't knock 'em too much. A lot of their early stuff when they still had Greg Rollie was pretty good. Their later stuff wasn't as good. My wife would defend REO, but not me. And I never cared for Foreigner. As for Mr. Henley, he strikes me as somebody I wouldn't like personally, but I do like his music. The artist I listen to the most is Bruce Hornsby. Most people know him from "The Way It Is", but his music has progressed and evolved over the years that its impossible to state what 'genre' he belongs in now. I've found it frustrating when radio stations or music industry execs try to pigeon hole artists, like Bruce or del amitri. >You're so right. That's exactly why I don't watch or >even care about who wins a Grammy. It's never about >the music much anyway, just who's earning the record >companies the most money, unfortunately. I just >cannot base my musical taste on what's "popular" since >what's "good" is so much more important. Agreed! Jon Hammer Powell, Ohio mailto:Jon.Hammer@CommerceNetwork.globalec.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:06:32 +1100 (EST) From: Aleksandr Subject: Re: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V3 #9 On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Peter Stanley wrote: > "Don Henley Must Die" -courtesy of Mojo Nixon, the fine fella that bought the > world "Elvis is Everywhere"... > > Cheers, > Peter Ah...... Mojo Nixon. Have only heard of him through the work of the Beat Farmers, but he sounds like a fine man. AL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:33:07 -0600 From: Leah Schenkenberg Subject: OV: Dexter Freebish? I don't know how you spell it...but if anyone knows anything about that band (single: Leaving Town), please email me off list. Leah ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:32:38 -0600 From: Leah Schenkenberg Subject: OV: Grammies Though I agree with most of the comments made about the grammies and how they simply say who is making money or who the companies want to make money by advancing their career, I can't possibly forsee that if the lovely Justin was actually recognized for his talent with a high charting and/or over played single that resulted in a nomination of some sort, we'd still hold such disparaging opinions. Though nominations commonly reward those with little/no talent in the eyes of most of us here, in the event that the tables were turned and someone who was truly an *artist* or a *musician* was recognized, I wouldn't reject it. Though a grammy doesn't say "this person is talented" or "this person is worthy of spending your time to listen to them" (we all know people who fulfill that criteria that have never had grammy noms), for the rest of the world out there who can't seem to pick out the music they enjoy based on it actually being good (aka...most of my generation), an artist worthy of exposure, if they were given a grammy nomination, could potentially reach that group of people. I think most of us are discouraged with most radio for many of the same reasons we dislike the grammies...but I still get pumped when I hear DA, when they play my request, when I know someone else heard the song I requested and maybe got the first taste of really great band that is horrendously under-known. I don't see how the grammies are all that different I guess. Leah ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! 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