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oppositeview-digest      Monday, October 16 2000      Volume 02 : Number 134



                               Today's Subjects:
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  OV: Breaking into the US market    ["Hilary Gray" <hilary@delamitri.co.uk>]
  Re: OV: Breaking into the US market           [Mitch <mitch@cc.gatech.edu>]
  Re: OV: Breaking into the US market  ["barbaralafferty" <barbaralafferty@e]
  Re: OV: Breaking into the US market           [Mitch <mitch@cc.gatech.edu>]
  OV: american music                                       [Moer4472@aol.com]
  OV: Hello....                         ["Jeanette Brown" <jfpb@whoever.com>]
  Re: OV: Hello....              [Aleksandr Yap <A.Yap@labstaff.usyd.edu.au>]
  Re: OV: Breaking into the US market  [Kristy McDonald <smeginhell2000@home]
  OV: Why do people dis "Cry to Be Found"?????  [Kristy McDonald <smeginhell]
  Re: OV: Breaking into the US market  [Kristy McDonald <smeginhell2000@home]
  OV: Re: Why do people dis "Cry to Be Found"?????  [Mitch <mitch@cc.gatech.]

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:30:54 +0100
From: "Hilary Gray" <hilary@delamitri.co.uk>
Subject: OV: Breaking into the US market

A UK perspective on why British bands are finding it hard to make it big in
the US:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_968000/968552.stm

Perhaps someone in the US could comment on the quote that "The traditional
British rock sound - guitars and drums - is on the wane in the US and until
it returns to fashion British bands will struggle." because arguably the new
Del Amitri album would come into that category?

I am sort of assuming that apart from the loyal core fans, the Dels have
largely fallen out of the collective consciousness of the casual radio
listeners in the US, much as they have done in the UK.

Hilary

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:33:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mitch <mitch@cc.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: OV: Breaking into the US market

> 
> Perhaps someone in the US could comment on the quote that "The traditional
> British rock sound - guitars and drums - is on the wane in the US and until
> it returns to fashion British bands will struggle." because arguably the new
> Del Amitri album would come into that category?

i desperately hope it will fall into that category -- del amitri's great
ability to change their sound (consider first album vs next two vs twisted
vs cry to be found) while a great virtue has me a little frghtened in the
context of what is selling big today in america -- imagine a back-street
boys/'nsync type effort as the next album! <CRINGE>

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:46:03 -0500
From: "barbaralafferty" <barbaralafferty@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: OV: Breaking into the US market

Hello, I'm unsure if I'm responding in the correct fashion...but here it
goes...
I'm in St. Louis, we consider it dead center of US, I'm from the East Coast
and stay in touch there.  I'm "in the music biz" and consider myself
somewhat in touch with the scene so I hope I'm qualified to respond to the
comment on why the US isn't responding to the British Sound currently.
I believe the KIDS are running the show right now.  The adult audiences
aren't buying the albums, support the shows, etc.  We have a GAP!!! The
30-40 year old crowd is the smallest demographic right now.  They're out
there, they are listening, but they aren't big enough in number to influence
the charts...it all comes down to money.  Right now at that age I think they
are focusing on their incomes, thier families, thier politics...etc.  It'll
cycle and we'll get more...I believe the Macy Gray, Matchbox 20 types are
the only ones getting our $$ right now.

I hope for a turnaround :)
Barbara Lafferty

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitch" <mitch@cc.gatech.edu>
To: "Hilary Gray" <hilary@delamitri.co.uk>
Cc: "OV" <oppositeview@smoe.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: OV: Breaking into the US market


> >
> > Perhaps someone in the US could comment on the quote that "The
traditional
> > British rock sound - guitars and drums - is on the wane in the US and
until
> > it returns to fashion British bands will struggle." because arguably the
new
> > Del Amitri album would come into that category?
>
> i desperately hope it will fall into that category -- del amitri's great
> ability to change their sound (consider first album vs next two vs twisted
> vs cry to be found) while a great virtue has me a little frghtened in the
> context of what is selling big today in america -- imagine a back-street
> boys/'nsync type effort as the next album! <CRINGE>
>

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:53:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mitch <mitch@cc.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: OV: Breaking into the US market

> are focusing on their incomes, thier families, thier politics...

... their spelling :-)

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:00:08 EDT
From: Moer4472@aol.com
Subject: OV: american music

>
Well, I am one American who can NOT WAIT until the "guitars and drums" of 
british music is once again big over here! I am SICK of the "Hip Hop" music 
and "Seattle" bands.  So I couldn't say much except we might have to just 
have to wait until GOOD music is back in fashion.

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:00:05 +1000
From: "Jeanette Brown" <jfpb@whoever.com>
Subject: OV: Hello....

Is anybody there?

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:06:41 +1100 (EST)
From: Aleksandr Yap <A.Yap@labstaff.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: Re: OV: Hello....

yes.



- -
it's brilliant being depressed - you can behave as badly as you like.
 - Rob (John Cusack) High Fidelity

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Jeanette Brown wrote:

> 
> Is anybody there?
> 

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:48:19 -0700
From: Kristy McDonald <smeginhell2000@home.com>
Subject: Re: OV: Breaking into the US market

Well, speaking as a Canadian, we are a guitar loving nation . . . BNL, Guess
Who, the Hip, Our Lady Peace, The Tea Party, Moist, Chantal Kreviazuk, Alanis
Morissette . . . yep, pretty damn fond of our guitars.

There are always going to be Backstreet Boy loving, Barbra Streisand album
holding dico lovers who say that "guitar is dead".  U.S. record execs told the
Beatles the same thing in '62.  Some egg on their faces, perhaps?

Kristy in Canada

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:52:08 -0700
From: Kristy McDonald <smeginhell2000@home.com>
Subject: OV: Why do people dis "Cry to Be Found"?????

I dunno if Mitch dislikes CTBF or not, but a LOT of you do.   Why?  I think the
song is melodic, and the lyrics hold a lot of truth.  Personally, it surprises me
that EVERY female Del fan out there doesn't lick their Justin posters every time
they hear it!  Seeing I amof the posterless variety of fan, I have to resort to
web site photos and the album covers.  Since cardboard and computer screens aren't
that tasty, may I reccomend vanilla flavoured Justin??

Kristy in Canada

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:00:23 -0700
From: Kristy McDonald <smeginhell2000@home.com>
Subject: Re: OV: Breaking into the US market

God . . . suddenly I'm a huge mouthpiece, aren't I??

I agree with Barbara in PART that the industry is supporting boy bands and I
believe that there is a gap.  I just disagree that it's the adult non-record
buying public that is the cause.  My station get's songs from all over the map
and we play FOR THE MOST PART lollipop rock.  I have yet to see the new U2 on
the air, and we just recently added the Corrs.

I think the reason guitar is dead in the U.S. at the moment is because a lot of
adults are buying BSB and N'Stink - the same ones that love Barbra Streisand and
Michael Bolton!  When record companies begin to promote across the board again,
there'll be a turnaround.  Fastball just released new material, as did the
Wallflowers, U2 and Matchbox 20.  I expect these steadfast rockers to kick Faith
and Shania off the chart - at least temporarily!

Long live Del Amitri

Kristy in Canada

P.S. - I'm gonna start this again - god help us all.  Have you in the U.K. been
notified of any rumours that Del will play around New Years?  I still have money
inthe bank specifically earmarked for one good look at Justin!

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 04:39:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mitch <mitch@cc.gatech.edu>
Subject: OV: Re: Why do people dis "Cry to Be Found"?????

> I dunno if Mitch dislikes CTBF or not, but a LOT of you do.   Why?  I think the
> song is melodic, and the lyrics hold a lot of truth.

i DO like CTBF -- just noting the contrast.  Though, for the reasons you
point out, for all it's differences it's very much classic del amitri,
isn't it?

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