From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V2 #117 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Friday, September 22 2000 Volume 02 : Number 117 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: CDnow [Leah D Schenkenberg ] Re: OV: Re: Everclear ["Elizabeth Osborne" ] RE: OV: Re: Everclear [Melissa Sue Rabey ] RE: OV: Re: Everclear [Alison Bellach ] OV: hotmail people [Alison Bellach ] OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #116 [klaic@net2000.com.au] Re: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #116 [Aleksandr Yap ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:07:07 -0500 From: Leah D Schenkenberg Subject: OV: CDnow Lousy with Love was on ebay for about $5 the other day...of course it didn't stay that way for long and went out of the price range for a poor college student, but I checked out CDnow to see how much for that otherwise, and was just wondering...What are the 2 bonus tracks on the import SOSP? And what is "cry to be found pt 2"? BTW...I like Cry to Be Found. It was never my favorite, but I didn't hate it either. Then I saw the videos, and it became exponentially awesome to me. Also, it's interesting that on CDnow, HoR, Change Everything, and Waking Hours all have "all music guide pick: best of artist", but not twisted. I think all the albums have something that makes it in the running to be my "favorite", but the reason twisted is is because it's has all those things that are on the other albums on one album...slow stuff, guitar stuff, cynical stuff, etc., and most importantly, really great hair. Justin's Twisted hair is so awesome. I seriously wish I knew what shampoo he uses. Leah Can we still be friends? Well, I guess that depends... How's the weather from so high? ~splender ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:53:40 CDT From: "Elizabeth Osborne" Subject: Re: OV: Re: Everclear Everclear is still together. They have a new single that gets quite a lot of radio play here called "Wonderful." (NOT a remaking of Adam Ant's Wonderful.) Everclear's "Wonderful" sounds almost exactly like "Everything to Everyone." The first song they released that I liked was (I think) "California?" Something about "with my big black boots and an old suitcase...I do believe I'll find myself a new place..." Something like that. >From: NIGELBLUES@aol.com >To: oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: OV: Re: Everclear >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:09:14 EDT > >In a message dated 15/09/00 09:58:37 GMT Daylight Time, >owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org writes: > ><< Also, if anyone is familiar with Everclear and could answer a few > questions for me off list, that would entitle you to god-like status. > > Leah >> > >Is this Everclear, the US group. They never did anything in UK but I got a >single they released here about 2 years ago called "Everything to Everyone" >which I loved together with the other tracks and videos on the 2 cd-rom >singles available. Also did a blinding version of Fun Boy Three's Our Lips >Are Sealed. They split up though, haven't they? > >Always wanted to check out more of their stuff but haven't yet - would it >be >worthwhile? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:46:49 -0400 From: Melissa Sue Rabey Subject: RE: OV: Re: Everclear Actually, the song title was Santa Monica . . . great song. :-) Melissa--to make this tangentially Del related, any news on the album?!?!? >===== Original Message From "Elizabeth Osborne" ===== >Everclear is still together. They have a new single that gets quite a lot >of radio play here called "Wonderful." (NOT a remaking of Adam Ant's >Wonderful.) Everclear's "Wonderful" sounds almost exactly like "Everything >to Everyone." The first song they released that I liked was (I think) >"California?" Something about "with my big black boots and an old >suitcase...I do believe I'll find myself a new place..." Something like >that. > > >>From: NIGELBLUES@aol.com >>To: oppositeview@smoe.org >>Subject: OV: Re: Everclear >>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:09:14 EDT >> >>In a message dated 15/09/00 09:58:37 GMT Daylight Time, >>owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org writes: >> >><< Also, if anyone is familiar with Everclear and could answer a few >> questions for me off list, that would entitle you to god-like status. >> >> Leah >> >> >>Is this Everclear, the US group. They never did anything in UK but I got a >>single they released here about 2 years ago called "Everything to Everyone" >>which I loved together with the other tracks and videos on the 2 cd-rom >>singles available. Also did a blinding version of Fun Boy Three's Our Lips >>Are Sealed. They split up though, haven't they? >> >>Always wanted to check out more of their stuff but haven't yet - would it >>be >>worthwhile? > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. Melissa Rabey dettiot@mailandnews.com http://homes.arealcity.com/newwonderland On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. Le Petit Prince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison Bellach Subject: RE: OV: Re: Everclear > Melissa--to make this tangentially Del related, any news on the album?!?!? Quinner dropped me a note saying that the guys were going back in the studio in the beginning of the year. ::sigh:: Man, what a bunch of lazy bums :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison Bellach Subject: OV: hotmail people hey, if you have a hotmail account and are on this list, can you send me an email with a subject line of "hiali"? my spam filter is screwed up so i'd like to force it to accept emails from y'all. thanks, alison - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Bellach: alibee@delamitri.com http://alibee.linex.com http://www.delamitri.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:44:53 +0100 From: klaic@net2000.com.au Subject: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #116 I just read that very long post about digital and electronic audio technology. And yes you could say Wow! things are changing. But on the other hand, nothing has changed at all. Twenty years ago we could tape an album on to cassette and today we burn cd's Big deal! Whats the difference, Yes I know, the sound quality. But twenty years ago we were blown away by the sound quality of a chrome or metal cassette. And regardless of how many mp3,s you may have on your P.C. or how many cdr's you have in your cd collection there is nothing quite like having the real thing. Is it the packaging? is it the pride of ownership? I don't know. but what I do know is if there is an artists work that I want to buy, I will buy it. Just because someone down loads an mp3 file, does not mean they have just cost an artist a cd sale. The point being they never would have bought it in the first place. Lets not forget that cd sales continue to rise all around the globe. I think mp3 is a fantastic development that enables artists to market their work to a world wide audience. But no matter how you look at it. There is something not quite right about an mp3 collection. Nick James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:08:39 +1100 (EST) From: Aleksandr Yap Subject: Re: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #116 Hear bloody hear!!! I cannot agree more. i've bought albums from having a couple of mp3s, and most of the mp3s i search for are old songs that i can't find elsewhere and/or b-sides that i don't know where they came from. Well said. If only the world were listening... *sigh* - - it's brilliant being depressed - you can behave as badly as you like. - Rob (John Cusack) High Fidelity On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 klaic@net2000.com.au wrote: > I just read that very long post about digital and electronic audio > technology. And yes you could say Wow! things are changing. But on the other > hand, nothing has changed at all. Twenty years ago we could tape an album on > to > cassette and today we burn cd's Big deal! Whats the difference, Yes I > know, > the sound quality. But twenty years ago we were blown away by the sound > quality of a chrome or metal cassette. > > And regardless of how many mp3,s you may have on your P.C. or how many cdr's > you have in your cd collection there is nothing quite like having the real > thing. Is it the packaging? is it the pride of ownership? I don't know. but > what I do know is if there is an artists work that I want to buy, I will buy > it. Just because someone down loads an mp3 file, does not mean they have > just > cost an artist a cd sale. The point being they never would have bought it in > the first place. > > Lets not forget that cd sales continue to rise all around the globe. > > I think mp3 is a fantastic development that enables artists to market their > work to a world wide audience. But no matter how you look at it. There is > something not quite right about an mp3 collection. > > Nick James > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:38:54 -0500 From: "debbie" Subject: OV: Re: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #116 Amen, Nick! I do have MP3s of some artists, mostly Miles Hunt (ex Wonder Stuff), but that's only because that's the only way he's releasing these songs at the moment. I also like to have the "real thing" in hand, too. I even still buy VINYL albums when I can find them. Cassette copies (I don't have a CD burner, nor do I have a CD player in my car) are nice, but I always view the cassette copies that I make from records, CDs, and MP3s as being disposable, especially since they're so easily lost or damaged. Like they say: "Ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby!" Have a good day! debbie "If those who only see the bad things don't even try to lift their feet out of the muck & mire, they'll never make it to the fields of flowers, dancing or not." - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 7:44 AM Subject: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #116 > > I just read that very long post about digital and electronic audio > technology. And yes you could say Wow! things are changing. But on the other > hand, nothing has changed at all. Twenty years ago we could tape an album on > to > cassette and today we burn cd's Big deal! Whats the difference, Yes I > know, > the sound quality. But twenty years ago we were blown away by the sound > quality of a chrome or metal cassette. > > And regardless of how many mp3,s you may have on your P.C. or how many cdr's > you have in your cd collection there is nothing quite like having the real > thing. Is it the packaging? is it the pride of ownership? I don't know. but > what I do know is if there is an artists work that I want to buy, I will buy > it. Just because someone down loads an mp3 file, does not mean they have > just > cost an artist a cd sale. The point being they never would have bought it in > the first place. > > Lets not forget that cd sales continue to rise all around the globe. > > I think mp3 is a fantastic development that enables artists to market their > work to a world wide audience. But no matter how you look at it. There is > something not quite right about an mp3 collection. > > Nick James > ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V2 #117 **********************************