From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V2 #103 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Thursday, September 7 2000 Volume 02 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: Re: Lousy with Love IN OZ ["Nick Short" ] Re: OV: Re: Lousy with Love IN OZ [Aleksandr Yap ] OV: Re: Del Amitri Sounds Old ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: Happy B-day Kevin & first time posting [Cleo DelosAngeles ] Re: OV: Del Amitri Sounds Old [Aleksandr Yap ] OV: tour ["Ed Minton" ] Re: OV: tour [Leah D Schenkenberg ] Re: OV: tour [Darren Holmquist ] [none] ["Dale Griffen" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:13:01 +1000 From: "Nick Short" Subject: OV: Re: Lousy with Love IN OZ Hi all. From the deep dark realm of lurkdoom, I have appeared to alert all fans of Del Amitri in Melbourne Australia and the rest of the world who havent got a copy of Lousy with Love in their indeed hot little hands, I spotted one in the Bourke st HMV store, for 19.75 Australian dollars (to the rest of the world) that is about a 50cents US, so it is definetly worth an investigate, it was disturbing however to find it 5 months after paying 50.00 Australian dollars on Ebay, oh well. Also to state the obvious, looking forward to the new album, back to the b-sides I go, and off to bed where I will dream that they bring out an Archive like a smart record marketing company did for 'Genesis', and 'The Jam'. Nick All the true believers say that "that she'll come back again", but no one ever shows me the proof And when you hear the thunder growing lounder that the rain Thell tell you it's an ANGEL ON THE ROOF ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:36:13 +1100 (EST) From: Aleksandr Yap Subject: Re: OV: Re: Lousy with Love IN OZ just on that i managed to order a second one (because i had the first one stolen) from sanity.com.au (this isn't really advertising for them i promise) but if they found them once maybe again!! Cheers, AL - - it's brilliant being depressed - you can behave as badly as you like. - Rob (John Cusack) High Fidelity On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Nick Short wrote: > Hi all. > > >From the deep dark realm of lurkdoom, I have appeared to alert all fans of > Del Amitri in Melbourne Australia and the rest of the world who havent got a > copy of Lousy with Love in their indeed hot little hands, I spotted one in > the Bourke st HMV store, for 19.75 Australian dollars (to the rest of the > world) that is about a 50cents US, so it is definetly worth an investigate, > it was disturbing however to find it 5 months after paying 50.00 Australian > dollars on Ebay, oh well. > Also to state the obvious, looking forward to the new album, back to the > b-sides I go, and off to bed where I will dream that they bring out an > Archive like a smart record marketing company did for 'Genesis', and 'The > Jam'. > > Nick > > All the true believers say that > "that she'll come back again", > but no one ever shows me the proof > And when you hear the thunder > growing lounder that the rain > Thell tell you it's an ANGEL ON THE ROOF > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: doug brown Subject: OV: Del Amitri Sounds Old I was listening to some Del Amitri the other day and they sound old. Even my beloved Surface of the Moon. Then I listened to the Richard Ashcroft solo CD. He was the singer for The Verve. I didn't like them all that much but he's obviously been listening to a lot of World Party in his spare time and it's a great CD and it sounds new. Not Old, Doug __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:48:00 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Re: Del Amitri Sounds Old Doug wrote: > I was listening to some Del Amitri the other day and > they sound old. Even my beloved Surface of the Moon. > > Then I listened to the Richard Ashcroft solo CD >and it's a great CD and it sounds new. Um.... could it have something to do with the fact that, in the whole sphere of things, Del Amitri's songs ARE old??? And also if you listen to something over and over and over again it becomes like Eddie's cardigan - old, a bit dated, but very comfortable and familiar - and heaven forbid anyone should try to give it for jumble sale or to the Salvation Army clothes bank... Hopefully when the new album comes out (seems like we've been saying this forever!!!) the songs on there will sound new and fresh again. But Richard Ashcroft's CD IS new! It's only been out a few weeks. So it's bound to sound fresh. And if anyone wants to get this album for £5 this week only go to www.bol.com where they have a special offer - two chart CD's for £10 only. I've ordered this one and the Coldplay one which Nigel has been raving about. Jane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Cleo DelosAngeles Subject: OV: Happy B-day Kevin & first time posting CHEERS Kevin...celebrate all month like I do. May you have a DEL-litefully rockin' b-day. Keep up the wonderful work, too. My name is Cleo De Los Angeles and I am pretty much a lurker. I must say that I have enjoyed all the discussions on this list; I have also met some very nice people on this list. I live out here in LA and yes that is my real Surname. I can't wait for the DELS to finish their latest project and haul their asses out here for a tour. It has been too long. Been a fan for many years and finally got to see them about 6 times. THey are one of the best bands I have seen live. Of course, you all know that. My music tastes are varied ranging from bands/artists like Crowded House/Neil Finn, Howard Jones, Sarah McLachlan, Basia to Dishwalla, Tonic, Harry Connick JR & the Bangles. Speaking of which, I got to see the BANGLES play a surprise gig last FRIDAY at a small LA club called Spaceland. It was fantastic and only cost me $8 (compared to the $30 they are charging to play at the House of Blues here on the sunset strip). IT was their public rehearsal and a great time was had by all. I even got to meet 3 of the 4 gals. That was fun. K...that's all from me. Take care, Cleo > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:54:49 +0100 > From: "Jane Armstrong" > Subject: OV: Happy Birthday > > Hi all! > > Just wanted to wish our own tame webmaster. Kevin, > a very Happy > Birthday!!!! > > Have a great one Kev and don't drink Southampton > dry!!! > > Jane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:44:58 -0500 From: Leah D Schenkenberg Subject: Re: OV: Del Amitri Sounds Old I'm just starting to get the old feeling now that I've run out of neat things to listen to that I had never heard before, but I hadn't listened to change everything for awhile and drove all the way home to it. I think I played Behind the Fool 13 times...it's a great driving song. Leah, with purple streaked hair. On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) doug brown writes: > I was listening to some Del Amitri the other day and > they sound old. Even my beloved Surface of the Moon. > > Then I listened to the Richard Ashcroft solo CD. He > was the singer for The Verve. I didn't like them all > that much but he's obviously been listening to a lot > of World Party in his spare time and it's a great CD > and it sounds new. > > Not Old, > > Doug > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ Scrawny, under-nourished models peek out from billboards adjacent to giant signs announcing the return of Wendy's Bacon Mushroom Melt...Is it any surprise we wash down our Big Macs with Diet Cokes? The only people satisfying the insatiable needs of the capitalist machine and at the same time pleasing the thin-obsessed society are bulimics, the perfect citizins. - Camryn Manheim ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:26:19 CDT From: "Elizabeth Osborne" Subject: Re: OV: Del Amitri Sounds Old "I'm Not Where Its At" always makes me bob my head back and forth or dance around the kitchen. I never get tired of SOSP for some reason. >From: Leah D Schenkenberg >To: oppositeview@smoe.org >Subject: Re: OV: Del Amitri Sounds Old >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:44:58 -0500 > > > >I'm just starting to get the old feeling now that I've run out of neat >things to listen to that I had never heard before, but I hadn't listened >to change everything for awhile and drove all the way home to it. I >think I played Behind the Fool 13 times...it's a great driving song. > >Leah, with purple streaked hair. > > > >On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) doug brown > writes: > > I was listening to some Del Amitri the other day and > > they sound old. Even my beloved Surface of the Moon. > > > > Then I listened to the Richard Ashcroft solo CD. He > > was the singer for The Verve. I didn't like them all > > that much but he's obviously been listening to a lot > > of World Party in his spare time and it's a great CD > > and it sounds new. > > > > Not Old, > > > > Doug > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >Scrawny, under-nourished models peek out from billboards adjacent to >giant signs announcing >the return of Wendy's Bacon Mushroom Melt...Is it any surprise we wash >down our Big Macs >with Diet Cokes? The only people satisfying the insatiable needs of the >capitalist machine >and at the same time pleasing the thin-obsessed society are bulimics, the >perfect citizins. > - Camryn Manheim > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:11:28 +1100 (EST) From: Aleksandr Yap Subject: Re: OV: Del Amitri Sounds Old i've got to say that i really love SOSP. I love them all and can't really pick a fave (of course just like a fan!) AL - - it's brilliant being depressed - you can behave as badly as you like. - Rob (John Cusack) High Fidelity On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Elizabeth Osborne wrote: > "I'm Not Where Its At" always makes me bob my head back and forth or dance > around the kitchen. I never get tired of SOSP for some reason. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:06:50 -0500 From: "Ed Minton" Subject: OV: tour Cleo wrote: >I can't wait for the DELS to finish their latest project and haul their asses out here for a tour. Just delurking momentarily to say AMEN to that. >It has been too long. Again, AMEN. And now, an opinion: They're behaving like the cut-out bins. They need to follow the lead of other musicians who tour perennially, (B. B. King still does over 200 shows every year!), and quit being such prima donnas. They're too old to be pop stars! They have never to this day promoted their material properly in America, (not completely their fault), and I still think it's viable, and marketable. But, there's only one way to do it. Work. A series of fifteen or twenty shows in America won't even scratch the surface. And another "Roll To Me" won't do it either, though that's what any label would be hoping for. I think they just need to get off their butts (like Cleo said), and get to work. It wouldn't be easy, but if you look at the acts which have found a mainstream audience in America, (No Doubt, Matchbox 20 come to mind), those bands have toured relentlessly to make it happen. Just my opinion. Later- Brother Ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:13:20 -0500 From: Leah D Schenkenberg Subject: Re: OV: tour Matchbox Twenty's first album (back then, then were Matchbox 20) was completely torn apart by critics. They said that they music was bland and the band was faceless...the album was passed over until a dj in Florida (I think?) saw potential in Push. Yourself or someone like you sold 13 million copies. One of the band members wears a tshirt that says "cool bands don't sell records" and said in response to a bad review, "I'm going to commit suicide! I'm going to jump off my wallet!" Sister Hazel started the same way...doing lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of shows in Florida...getting to be REALLY good live. My best friend heard All For You at a local show in Florida when the band announced that they just got that one to be played on local radio stations... Part of me is so frustrated that they're so obscure, but most of me is extremely selfish, kind of hoping they'll always stay my little band. I don't know if I could handle Del Amitri equivalents of i_love_justin_timberlake_and_lance_bass showing up all over, even though my address of CurrieGirl is essentially the same thing...(though in case that should ever happen, I think Sandeep and I were on the right track, thinking we should get www.Ilovejustincurrie.com and auctioning it off to the highest bidder). I like knowing the justin poster here in my dorm is only in my dorm, unlike the britney posters that are in every single guys dorm I've ever entered. I do get to see Stroke 9 and Nine Days on campus next month, and then Matchbox Twenty (probably my favorite band after DA) a few weeks after, as well as Skillet twice in one weekend (Susan, I know you're jealous). streaked with purple and loaded with homework...I head back to collegeville USA Leah On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:06:50 -0500 "Ed Minton" writes: > Cleo wrote: > > >I can't wait for the DELS to finish their latest project and haul > their > asses out here for a tour. > > Just delurking momentarily to say AMEN to that. > > >It has been too long. > > Again, AMEN. > > And now, an opinion: > > They're behaving like the cut-out bins. They need to follow the lead > of > other musicians who tour perennially, (B. B. King still does over > 200 shows > every year!), and quit being such prima donnas. They're too old to > be pop > stars! They have never to this day promoted their material properly > in > America, (not completely their fault), and I still think it's > viable, and > marketable. But, there's only one way to do it. Work. A series of > fifteen or > twenty shows in America won't even scratch the surface. And another > "Roll To > Me" won't do it either, though that's what any label would be hoping > for. I > think they just need to get off their butts (like Cleo said), and > get to > work. It wouldn't be easy, but if you look at the acts which have > found a > mainstream audience in America, (No Doubt, Matchbox 20 come to > mind), those > bands have toured relentlessly to make it happen. > > Just my opinion. > > Later- > Brother Ed > > Scrawny, under-nourished models peek out from billboards adjacent to giant signs announcing the return of Wendy's Bacon Mushroom Melt...Is it any surprise we wash down our Big Macs with Diet Cokes? The only people satisfying the insatiable needs of the capitalist machine and at the same time pleasing the thin-obsessed society are bulimics, the perfect citizins. - Camryn Manheim ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 21:06:23 -0700 From: Darren Holmquist Subject: Re: OV: tour Just one other tidbit... one of my latest pleasures is Train. They toured for a year before getting that allusive record deal. Then, after signing, they had to tour the album for another year! These guys have been touring the same 12 songs for 2 years. And they really only had one radio hit, "Meet Virginia". I too, would like to see the Dels tour for a little more than a month. They've been in the states for little more than 40 days in the last 3 years. dh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:19:35 -0400 From: "Dale Griffen" Subject: [none] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C01858.EBFEB1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I too am a lurker! I think it is time for all of us that just read = everyone elses thoughts, to come forward and say hi. I have had the = pleasure of meeting the Dels a few times in Boston and Rhode Island, and = even being given a Red Stripe, offered to me by Justin himself at the = Local 186 club in Boston. That unopened Red Stripe still sits behind = glass!!! I have noticed that with each passing tour and album, that = they get a larger and larger following, and get to be harder for us = loyal old timers to get to talk to at the shows. Does anyone have any = thoughts on that? Also, has anyone heard what kind of a musical slant = the new album will have? Slower, more rock, scottish folk... Can't = wait!!! Talk to you again soon, Dale ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V2 #103 **********************************