From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V2 #18 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Monday, June 5 2000 Volume 02 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: hugh jones ["Chuck Simmons" ] OV: No Subject.... [ginny@delamitri.net] OV: A Very Late Driving List! [ginny@delamitri.net] Re: OV: First Record [Lori Royal-Gordon ] OV: Re: First Records [JJR101@aol.com] OV: Re: Re: First Record ["Jane Armstrong" ] OV: Re: Re: P Fam, and a few questions (no content) ["Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: hugh jones Did anyone else notice the lack of reference to Del Amitri's wonderful first album when the website announcement stated that Hugh Jones would be working on the new album? Give me a break. Hugh Jones produced two songs from Waking Hours, but he did the whole first album, which, in my opinion, is probably the best-produced recording I've ever heard that wasn't done by Steve Lillywhite. I don't know much about Mr. Jones, but I've always had an almost mythic respect for him because of that. I do know that he also did some early Echo & the Bunnymen stuff (he is listed several times on the "Songs to Learn and Sing CD") including the terrific "Never Stop." Does anyone else know anything else he has produced? In any case, this revisionist history must stop. Del Amitri's first album does exist and shouldn't be discounted, even if the band doesn't like the album. Surely it's worth mentioning that Hugh Jones produced their debut album - which many of you don't like - in addition to a couple of tracks from Waking Hours. How do you all feel about the producer of their first, much-maligned record producing some of their 6th? And I don't know if I share the relief that others do about the move away from the "soul" of Cry to Be Found. More than anything else, I want to be proud of the band and want them to be daring. I trust them enough to think they'll be good at most any style. And by the way, Del Amitri is definitely pop, and it's not a bad word. Here are other groups that I would call pop that others might not. Elvis Costello The Jam/Style Council (and Paul Weller's solo stuff too, I guess) Husker Du/Sugar/Bob Mould Green Day Buffalo Tom To me, even if it's got some loud guitar and some serious angst, if there's a good melody with a good hook in there somewhere, and it repeats a theme, it meets my description. But you are right - who cares what you call it, just find what you like! Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 17:57:18 +0100 From: ginny@delamitri.net Subject: OV: No Subject.... test _______________________________________________________ Del-Mail - www.delamitri.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 18:20:31 +0100 From: ginny@delamitri.net Subject: OV: A Very Late Driving List! Know I'm a bit late on the band wagon but I've been having some probs posting so have changed my account!(what an excuse) I'm George, Georgina that is and have spoken to some of you in Jane's chat room and would just like to say there's no car journey long enough to cram all of my favs in but here are a few anyway!!! Squeeze any and every but especially Sunday Street & Annie Get Your Gun The Who You Better You Bet Thin Lizzy Jail Break & The Boys Are Back In Town Gomez Whippin' Piccadily Van Morrison Real Real Gone Jimi Hendrix The Wind Cries Mary Joni Mitchell California Robbie Robertson & U2 Testimony & Sweet Fire of Love Blue Rodeo 5 Days In May David Bowie Jump They Say Don Henley Boys of Summer Del Amitri Life Is Full, High Times, Food For Songs & Start With Me amoungst the rest of course!! Billy Joel We Didn't Start The Fire Paul Simon Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes Suzy & The Banchies(spelt wrong?!) Shadow Time The Pixies This Monkey's Gone To Heaven U2 absolutely any (sorry Andrew) Elvis Costello Two Little Hitlers (Armed Forces Version) and The Other Side of Summer Sting Mad About You (mmmmmm) Beatles Hey Bulldog Robert Plant Carry Me Down To The Sea Oh dear got a bit carried away, sorry :-) and of course any Britney Spears!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________________ Del-Mail - www.delamitri.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 12:28:02 -0700 From: Lori Royal-Gordon Subject: Re: OV: First Record Sherry wrote: > The first time I ever bought a record for myself, I actually bought two: Bobby Sherman > singing Easy Come, Easy Go, and The Partridge Family (whom I still listen to, can > you believe?) singing I Think I Love You. Anyone? Anyone? I have those two records, too, although I think my mom bought them for me. My first-ever concert was Bobby Sherman, and I watched the Partridge Family and Here Come The Brides every week. Ah, adolescence. Sure, it's embarrassing, but it's also pretty universal, I think. My 11-year-old is _already_ embarrassed that she used to like the Spice Girls! The first record I actually bought with my own money was the Beatles' "Lady Madonna." I remember my mom thought the lyrics were scandalous! ~Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:03:59 EDT From: JJR101@aol.com Subject: OV: Re: First Records Well, not counting a record an Aunt bought me which was released soon after John Kennedy's speech urging America to send a man to the moon, and entitled "The New Frontier" (one of the catch phrases in the speech) by the Kingston Trio..... the first record I bought with my own money was "Meet The Beatles"...... and I still have it. Though it's no longer playable.....proper record care was just not something I'd knew when I was 12..... Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:12:22 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Re: Re: First Record Em wrote: > The first record I bought was 'White Horses' from the TV show...... > I loved that song! I used to belong in to a singing and accordion group when I was a kid - and one of the songs we sang was that one. I'd forgotten all about it! If we're into first albums - mine was Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon and Garfunkel. I paid £2.50 in Woolworths and got a free album of harpsichord music from a Baroque composer called Ramaeu (I was very much more into classical music then). The first record I had bought for me was Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat (can't remember who by) and then my Mum bought me I Want To Hold Your Hand and many of the early Beatles singles. I played them to death on a very old gramophone. Scribbled my name all over them. Now I cringe at the thought of how much they might be worth if I'd not done that. What wanton vandalism! But I was only 7. Jane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:25:18 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: OV: Re: Re: P Fam, and a few questions (no content) Cindy wrote: > The only "She seems . . " song I can think of by Phil /Genesis is "She seems > to have an invisible touch, yeah . ." which, I think, is called "Invisible > Touch." I could be way off on this, but that's what pops into my mind with > your only clue "She seems . ." Yes - I think Cindy is right here. I'm a huge Genesis fan from way back (1973 to be precise!) and this is the one song of theirs I really dislike! Maybe the tune, maybe over-exposure. Give me Supper's Ready and Selling England By The Pound any day! >Getting back to Jane's Daydream Believer comments (and I had a mad crush on >Davy, too!), I remember playing that beginning bit, where he speaks, "Okay, >okay . . don't get so excited. Just because I'm short, I know . . ." (or >something like that) over and over, just to hear him talk! Anyone know what >I'm talking about?? (Oh boy, Sherry . . talk about embarrassing myself!!!) I do SO know what you mean. I did exactly the same thing. My 10 year olds hormones were starting to stir and I found that bit SO sexy! Looking back at the repeats on TV though, these days I would probably go for Pete or Woolhat. Davy does nothing for me these days :-( My other big crush back then was Paul McCartney. Chip Hawkes of the Tremeloes was next(who still looks pretty fine - I met him and Chesney a few weeks back when they played at my local arts centre) - followed by David Cassidy - and then the big obsession which contributed towards me being chucked out of home - Keith Emerson. Still one of my biggest heroes - though he can't play so well these days since he had an op on his wrist, and he's not written anything decent in years. Having gone through Mark Knopfler and Eric Clapton, and ending up with Iain Harvie - it looks like I'm never going to grow out of my rock star fantasies! Jane PS George - I'm going to have to go on a long car journey with you sometime! How could I forget Thin Lizzy and U2 as great driving music? ------------------------------ End of oppositeview-digest V2 #18 *********************************