From: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org (oppositeview-digest) To: oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Subject: oppositeview-digest V2 #3 Reply-To: oppositeview@smoe.org Sender: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oppositeview-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oppositeview-digest Saturday, May 20 2000 Volume 02 : Number 003 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OV: Re: Celebrity Covers ["Jane Armstrong" ] Re: OV: Re: Celebrity Covers [Leah D Schenkenberg ] OV: Del Covers ["Kristy McDonald" ] Re: OV: Del Covers [Libby Graham ] OV: DA/ER ["Susan & C. Reid Gardner" ] Re: OV: Del Covers ["Jane Armstrong" ] Re: OV: Re: Celebrity Covers ["Kristy McDonald" ] OV: Testing ["Joseph Dore" ] OV: Nothing Ever Happens ["Holmquist, Darren" ] OV: Re: Celebrity Cover ["Joseph Dore" ] OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #2 ["Emily Walters" Subject: OV: Re: Celebrity Covers Leah suggested she'd like to hear Bob Dylan doing Evidence. Not sure about that - but sometimes Justin sings Nothing Ever Happens with a sort of Bob Dylan "nasal twang" - as a sort of parody. (why DOES he dislike that song so much?) So I'd really like to hear Dylan sing that song himself. But NOT in the style of Manfred Mann. Please spare me that! (I hope this gets through OK. I've just switched from the Digest to the bounce list on the new all improved OV!) Jane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Join us for our weekly chat - 9pm GMT Thursdays (now with voice) on http://homepages.tesco.net/~jane.armstrong/chat.html Please note my new URL: http://homepages.tesco.net/~jane.armstrong Del Amitri Pages: http:///homepages.tesco.net/~jane.armstrong/Delpage.html Join The Devlins Mailing List: http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/TheDevlins ICQ # 34643730 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 07:17:18 -0500 From: Leah D Schenkenberg Subject: Re: OV: Re: Celebrity Covers Actually, no....I don't want to hear Bob Dylan doing evidence...I think he's an awful singer. I can *imagine* hearing it, but I really hope that never comes true. Why JC hates NEH, not sure. Always been curious myself. He's said that "It's from a different time full of anger and all that crap and isn't appropriate for now" (not exactly like that...I paraphrased) but American Pie was written from a different era with some anger from that period, and I don't chuck that out the window (at least, not Don McLean's original)...so I'm not sure that "late 80s anger that doens't apply now" syndrome covers all his dislike for that. He doesnt' like Evidence either...go figure. Leah On Fri, 19 May 2000 12:04:48 +0100 "Jane Armstrong" writes: > Leah suggested she'd like to hear Bob Dylan doing Evidence. Not sure > about > that - but sometimes Justin sings Nothing Ever Happens with a sort > of Bob > Dylan "nasal twang" - as a sort of parody. (why DOES he dislike that > song so > much?) So I'd really like to hear Dylan sing that song himself. > But NOT in > the style of Manfred Mann. Please spare me that! > > (I hope this gets through OK. I've just switched from the Digest to > the > bounce list on the new all improved OV!) > Jane > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Join us for our weekly chat - 9pm GMT Thursdays (now with voice) on > http://homepages.tesco.net/~jane.armstrong/chat.html > Please note my new URL: http://homepages.tesco.net/~jane.armstrong > Del Amitri Pages: > http:///homepages.tesco.net/~jane.armstrong/Delpage.html > Join The Devlins Mailing List: > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/TheDevlins > ICQ # 34643730 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > There's a king on a throne with his eyes torn out; There's a blind man looking for a shadow of doubt. There's a rich man sleeping on a golden bed; There's a skeleton choking on a crust of bread... ~ sting ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:11:22 PDT From: "Neil Goodman" Subject: OV: "Cry to be Found" Celebrity Cover Actually, I always thought "Cry to be Found" would be a perfect tune for Hall and Oates to do. The way Justin sings in a falsetto, the tempo and arrangement of the song, the high keyboard part, it just sounds like Hall and Oates to me! I had a friend who's not yet a Del-head (working on it, though!) comment on it the first time I played it for him too..... Neil Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:07:11 PDT From: "Kristy Scott" Subject: Re: O.V. Evidence Okay, here's one . . . Duran Duran doing cry to be found. But it'd have to be Duran circa 1985 with Nick Rhodes and his pink hair and Simon with his brooding "you piss me off" attitiude. Am I a Durannie? You be the judge . . . I still have my button that says "I had sex with Simon Le Bon"! Kristy in Canada ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:42:19 +0100 From: hilary_gray@sandwich.pfizer.com Subject: OV: Hello....? After that brief surge of activity, it's gone quiet again. Has everyone moved to 'smoe' ok? Dave asked who we'd want to do a celeb Del tribute. I must admit to never having considered this, the only one that immediately comes to mind is George Best doing Stone Cold Sober! Hilary PFIZER CENTRAL RESEARCH - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message and any attachment has been virus checked by the Pfizer Research Sandwich Data Centre. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:24:09 +0100 () From: Libby Graham Subject: Re: OV: Hello....? Oh Hilary!!! Now we have to explain who George Best is to those with no knowledge of British Footballers (soccer players) of the past with drinking problems !!!!! :-) I'd be quite keen to hear Tom Jones' version of Just Like A Man just to see if it would be as bad as his version of the Talikng Heads classic, Burning Down The House. And what about a current boy band covering a slower song and making Justin a rich man? It seems like Westlife can cover any ballad and it goes to number one. Or is this sacrilige? ;-) Libby On Fri, 19 May 2000 hilary_gray@sandwich.pfizer.com wrote: > After that brief surge of activity, it's gone quiet again. Has everyone > moved to 'smoe' ok? > > Dave asked who we'd want to do a celeb Del tribute. I must admit to never > having considered this, the only one that immediately comes to mind is > George Best doing Stone Cold Sober! > > Hilary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 00:15:42 -0700 From: "Kristy McDonald" Subject: OV: Del Covers "Kay - new vote! Texas doing "Move Away Jimmy Blue". Y'think?? Kristy in Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:49:32 +0100 () From: Libby Graham Subject: Re: OV: Del Covers Oh no - we're in my idea of Room 101!!!!! I know I'm the only person on the list who does not like Texas but I am scarred from seeing them in the late 80s and they were the WORST band I have ever seen live! And I saw E17 at Nottingham and Bell Book and Candle at Hurricane! :-) What about Glen Tillbrook from Squeeze covering It Might As Well Be You? Libby On Fri, 19 May 2000, Kristy McDonald wrote: > "Kay - new vote! Texas doing "Move Away Jimmy Blue". Y'think?? > > Kristy in Canada > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:08:16 -0400 From: "Susan & C. Reid Gardner" Subject: OV: DA/ER Hi, let's try this new smoe thing out. Hope you ER fans saw the season-ender last night (tho I liked last week's episode better: I won't spoil it for those didn't see it). In the scene in the doctor's lounge when Greene & Weaver confront Dr. Carter, over his shoulder as he started to leave you could see a vending machine on whose front were pasted some little notices including a tilted yellow sheet with the big black words "Del Amitri" on it! I think its a flyer for a concert schedule in the area, as it looks like one I got back in 1997. Whoever on the set decorating committee that is responsible for this Dels reference that has been on the show at least a year deserves a big kiss. TTFN Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:49:56 +0100 From: "Jane Armstrong" Subject: Re: OV: Del Covers > What about Glen Tillbrook from Squeeze covering It Might As Well Be You? > > Libby Actually, I can imagine Glen doing quite a few of the Dels' songs. I always thing of Del Amitri as the 90's answer to Squeeze in a way, And I loved Tom Jones' version of Burning Down The House. But then I think the Reload album is pretty great. Jane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:28:19 -0700 From: "Kristy McDonald" Subject: Re: OV: Re: Celebrity Covers I dunno what everyone sees in Bob Dylan. Personally, his only great achievement is Jacob . . . has anyone heard the Wallflowers do Heroes? I officially nominate the Wallflowers for Kiss this thing Goodbye. They'd rock. I can relate to why JC hates NRH . . . you have to consoder that songwriting is a kind of catharsis, and after a while, you move away from what you let go of in a song. He can go on hating it as long as he PERFFORMS it!! I love that tune. Avout American Pie . . . DJ's all over the world thank Don McLean for a8 minute song. It's great for going to the loo, and heating up dinner. I have to say though that as far as throwing tunes out the window goes, MADONNA'S version should go first. I used to lover her. Now I think . . . I can't tell you what I think in polite conversation. Kristy in Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:00:45 EDT From: "Joseph Dore" Subject: OV: Testing Just testing... It didn't work the first time... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:21:07 -0700 From: "Holmquist, Darren" Subject: OV: Nothing Ever Happens I've always felt that Justin was a little embarrassed for having written such a biting, song. No hidden meanings, nothing left to the imagination. Just raw anger at the world when nothing was going right for him. If memory serves, this was actually written in about '87. His band had no gigs, no contract, the future looked a little bleak at the time. So, the song doesn't ring true any longer. At least, not for him. And he may have felt a little hypocritcal singing it today. But, it seems he got over that and is performing it again. Next, he needs to make his peace with stuff off the first album. Peace, Darren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:31:57 EDT From: "Joseph Dore" Subject: OV: Re: Celebrity Cover Hmmm... "Tell Her This" by David Bowie! That would be damn good! Bowie with his 12-string and maybe a falanger. With the deep-to-high voice that he has...I think that would be great! Or maybe, "Be My Downfall" by Neil Young... YEAH! Joe http://dore.cjb.net ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 02:49:12 +0100 From: "Emily Walters" Subject: OV: Re: oppositeview-digest V2 #2 > Does JC consider them pop? roll to me, maybe, but overall? I was sat in a bar with him once when he called 'Mr Vain' an excellent pop song............... Not sure that Evidence compares (thank God)................. 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