From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #799 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, September 29 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 799 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Harry Nillson ( with Joni reference) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Harry Nielson with Joni Reference, '73 Grammys [Jeff Clark ] Re: Forward.com: The Secret Jewish History of Joni Mitchell [Bob.Muller@F] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:44:52 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Harry Nillson ( with Joni reference) That is a GREAT documentary. I was a bigger Nilsson fan in the early 70's than I was a Joni fan. They asked Harry to write a song "like" Fred Neill's "Everybody's Talkin'" and he came up with "I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City", which he recorded and released but not for the film. Joni's song was recorded by East Coast folkie Donal Leace on an album produced by Roberta Flack. He said he learned the song from a demo tape Joni had given him. Would sure love to hear that demo, even though the song is no great shakes. Bob NP: Eztv, "Bury Your Heart" From: Steve Danielson To: JMDL JMDL , Date: 09/28/2015 11:49 PM Subject: Harry Nillson ( with Joni reference) Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org The documentary "Who is Harry Nillson?" is still streaming on Netflix until Oct. 1st, so if you haven't seen it and have Netflix now is the time. A couple things I didnt know or recall, Nillson didnt write "Everybodys Talkin" ( the theme song to the 1972 movie Midnight Cowboy), but had recorded it prior to the movie being done. The movie producers had requested both Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan to provide a theme song. Dylan came up with "Lay Lady Lay" and Joni wrote "Midnight Cowboy" which she apparently never recorded. http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=291 Another interesting thing was a photo at about the 33 minute mark of Joni arm-in-arm with Nillson at the 1973 Grammy awards. Steve - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:53:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Harry Nielson with Joni Reference, '73 Grammys <> I couldn't remember if Joni was nominated for a Grammy for For The Roses and had to check. Nope. No nominations for Ladies, Blue, or For the Roses. I guess the era was dominated by Carpenters, Anne Murray, etc.Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni and her jewish heart I'm finding it too difficult to find the exact articles where Joni has spoken about religion in general or her religion specifically, but I believe she has mentioned a number of times being, or at least being influenced by, Judaism, Buddhism, native spirituality and likely more. And she was raised as a Christian. And she has read a lot of philosophy, mentioning Nietzsche and Plato if not others. She takes from each what works for her. Just doing a google search on "Joni Mitchell religion", you can find articles defining her work in the contexts of a number of different beliefs. It shows that she does a great deal of thinking, and it just adds to her universal appeal! But, it seems to me that Jewish people like to discuss beliefs and the rightness and wrongness of things (any film showing a group of rabbis together seems to suggest that argument/debate/discussion is a great part of that faith. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ingrid Lochrenberg To: joni@smoe.org Cc: Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:07 AM Subject: Joni and her jewish heart I once heard joni say somewhere, that she wishes that she had every type of blood, so that she could tell everyone off. she is in a category of her own, and judaism is really quite exclusive. i have also "wished i was jewishb. i am under such a strong billusionb that i share almost every describable taste with jonib&maybe she has felt that she belongs to that culture as i have. it makes sense that many people stray from being jewish and that there are progeny that are jewish (in their female ancestry) without knowing it. this is what i feel about myself. i think that very likely joni feels the same.... she also mentioned that a cousin or second cousin of hers believes that they have a jewish ancestor - on the motherbs side, of course, and tthat she had a theory that they, jonibs family and hers, were in fact jewish. i have been gone from this list for a long time, and it was because of joni, not despite her. ibll not go into detail apart from saying that i now really believe that allopathic medicine has a place when everything else fails. i feel that i am in-sane, in itbs many manifestations. i know that joni also felt herself to have had a breakdown in her twenties. oh, and about lauriebs songs of shadow, songs of light, i wonder now if some of the message of the album couldnbt be that people are glib when they read jonibs lyrics. i wonder if she is not making a commentary on how trivial others see jonibs experiencess, as if they do not come from deep and heartfelt experience. i donbt mean to say that laurie is glib, just that she infers that others are. i may be be wrong. i thought of all of the jonifest people at the time of the fest. you were uppermost in my mind, those that attended and those that wished they did. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:25:05 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Forward.com: The Secret Jewish History of Joni Mitchell Well, just to play devil's advocate (you see that religious reference thrown in there?) I would say that Joni's work cast SUCH a wide net that you could make a case for ANY one group, albeit religious, gender, racial, whatever. Like Catherine said so well, Joni is a hodgepodge of many influences, a patchwork quilt of things, having spent her entire life diving diving diving, diving down to pick up every shining thing. Bob NP: Ryan Adams, "How You Get The Girl" From: "Susan E. McNamara" To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , Date: 09/24/2015 05:49 PM Subject: Forward.com: The Secret Jewish History of Joni Mitchell Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Great article connecting how Judaism has influenced Joni's art and relationships ... the author makes a convincing argument, I think! http://tinyurl.com/n9b6q8m Sue Tierney McNamara sem8@cornell.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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