From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #797 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, September 28 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 797 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- errant [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #796 [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #796 [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Joni and her jewish heart [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: Joni & Jewish Celebrations [lawntreader@googlemail.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 18:28:40 +0200 From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: errant > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Ingrid Lochrenberg > Subject: errant > Date: 28 September 2015 at 5:12:21 PM SAST > To: jpni@smoe.org > > Seeing that Joni is Joni - she most likely has an errant ancestor who strayed from Judaism as a display of joyful and reckless independence. And paradoxically that has determined her self-defenition, and she really just doesnbt knows that she IS jewish. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:08:48 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #796 My stepbrother has been saying that about his devoutly Christian wife for 30 years. It's an old line. In a message dated 9/28/2015 3:01:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: I recall that Joni once said, I guess referring to her marriage to Klein, that she was "Jewish by injection." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:08:48 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #796 My stepbrother has been saying that about his devoutly Christian wife for 30 years. It's an old line. In a message dated 9/28/2015 3:01:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: I recall that Joni once said, I guess referring to her marriage to Klein, that she was "Jewish by injection." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 14:07:43 +0200 From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Joni and her jewish heart I once heard joni say somewhere, that she wishes that she had every type of blood, so that she could tell everyone off. she is in a category of her own, and judaism is really quite exclusive. i have also "wished i was jewishb. i am under such a strong billusionb that i share almost every describable taste with jonib&maybe she has felt that she belongs to that culture as i have. it makes sense that many people stray from being jewish and that there are progeny that are jewish (in their female ancestry) without knowing it. this is what i feel about myself. i think that very likely joni feels the same.... she also mentioned that a cousin or second cousin of hers believes that they have a jewish ancestor - on the motherbs side, of course, and tthat she had a theory that they, jonibs family and hers, were in fact jewish. i have been gone from this list for a long time, and it was because of joni, not despite her. ibll not go into detail apart from saying that i now really believe that allopathic medicine has a place when everything else fails. i feel that i am in-sane, in itbs many manifestations. i know that joni also felt herself to have had a breakdown in her twenties. oh, and about lauriebs songs of shadow, songs of light, i wonder now if some of the message of the album couldnbt be that people are glib when they read jonibs lyrics. i wonder if she is not making a commentary on how trivial others see jonibs experiencess, as if they do not come from deep and heartfelt experience. i donbt mean to say that laurie is glib, just that she infers that others are. i may be be wrong. i thought of all of the jonifest people at the time of the fest. you were uppermost in my mind, those that attended and those that wished they did. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:23:27 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Joni & Jewish Celebrations On 27 Sep 2015, at 16:19, Deb Messling wrote: > I recall that Joni once said, I guess referring to her marriage to Klein, > that she was "Jewish by injection. I guess that's one way of putting it! :-)) Anita > >> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 2:18 PM, wrote: >> >> There is this, I don't think it has been posted and is from an interview >> with >> Malka last November, on Joni's birthday, with David Yaffe. >> >>> b I think Joni is Jewish,b said Malka Marom, the author of Joni >> Mitchell: >> In Her Own Words. We were speaking mischievously about a story that Joni >> Mitchell had, on separate occasions, told to both of us. Some years before >> the >> death of her parents, she learned that her father had his name changed at >> Ellis Island. She had already learned that he also had Native American >> blood. >> So she asked her mother, b Whatb s it like to be married to a Jewish >> Indian?b But Mitchell, who turns 71 today, is not about to have Henry >> Louis >> Gates, Jr. find her roots on PBS, and Marom was speaking figuratively. >> Marom >> is definitely Jewishb she is Israelib and because she feels intimately >> connected to Joni Mitchell, she feels that Joni is of the tribe, at least >> in >> spirit. (Jonib s second husband was Jewish, but their wedding was >> Buddhist.) >> b In her soul she is Jewish, even if not in her blood,b Malka said with a >> laugh." >> >> The full address is >> >> http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and >> culture/books/186723/joni-mitchell-malka-marom >> >> I view myself as a bit of a spiritual nomad, taking bits and pieces as I >> wander through this life and I sometimes wonder if Joni is a bit like that, >> Anita >> >> Anita >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 18:18, Laura O. wrote: >>> >>> Catherine, >>> >>> I wish I could find it now, but early this year (or was it last) after >>> one of her appearances in LA (it could have been the Hammer Museum) I >>> came upon someones instagram photo of Joni at the table of a Jewish >>> Holiday celebration or a shabat dinner. So this was in the last 12 >>> months that she was part of this tradition. >>> >>> Laura >>> >>> >>> From: Catherine McKay >>> Subject: Re: Joni and her jewish heart >>> >>> I'm finding it too difficult to find the exact articles where Joni has >>> spoken about religion in general or her religion specifically, but I >>> believe she has mentioned a number of times being, or at least being >>> influenced by, Judaism, Buddhism, native spirituality and likely more. > > > > -- > Deb Messling > dlmessling@gmail.com > http://bookbook.typepad.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #797 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe