From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #668 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, June 8 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 668 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #56 ["mep@chorus.net" ] Symposium [Jamie Zubairi home ] Re: Court and Spark Symposium draft programme ["mep@chorus.net" ] Re: Symposium [lesli shadowsandlight ] conference [lesli shadowsandlight ] Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #58 [Laurie Antonioli ] Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #67 [Steve Danielson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 15:38:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "mep@chorus.net" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #56 Steve Danielson wrote: "I'm not sure Joni would be all too happy about the Symposium. She said she paints with words and music and didn't like people to over-analyze the lyrics." Steve, I'd hate to participate in (or, in my case, be excited about) something that Joni wouldn't like. B On the other hand, this reminds me a little of all the debates we had in grad school in English lit decades ago about whether authorial intent mattered, or should even be considered. B At the end of the day, I'd hope that Joni would agree that, once an artistic work is released into the world, it takes on a life of its own, and is subject to all the judgment and appreciation (and analysis) that is out there. And, as a bit of a digression, what appreciation there is! B Way back in 1994 or 1995, my brother gave me Turbulent Indigo for Christmas. B I listened to it a few nights ago after not hearing it for years, and *damn,* that's a good album! B For years, I think I accepted the popular wisdom that Joni's Grammy win for Best Pop Album in 1996 was a belated recognition of past slights. B But now, with 21 years of perspective, I'm amazed at how many songs I now regard as Joni classics are on this collection. B Thanks again to my brother for making my first listens possible. Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 07:14:27 +0000 From: Jamie Zubairi home Subject: Symposium Laura said Wow. I'd love to hear what people are saying at this symposium. Maybe Malka will give us an overview when she returns if they don't document the lectures. I'm doing a little workshop on Joni in June....nothing to intellectual, but it should be fun. Matt and I are going to do a breakdown of how we approached her music, what it means to us and I'm going to have the workshop-goers get involved. Knowing what Joni means to everyone I wanted to give people an opportunity to express this. Think I'll go with a sheet to fill out rather than long drawn out stories. We'll see. Still formulating!! Have a great day everyone and sending continued love and blessings to Joni. Laurie I'll be going to the symposium so I shall be glad to do a report of I get the chance. It'll be interesting to hear what does get said about Joni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 15:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "mep@chorus.net" Subject: Re: Court and Spark Symposium draft programme Steve Dulson wrote, and Moni Kellerman responded: Am 03.06.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Steve Dulson: > On this item: > Jim Robinson: From the Literate to the Literal: Joni Mitchell as a Comic Muse. > Shouldn't it be "Cosmic"? :) Nope. http://www.tablesaltproductions.com/jonimitchell.html" Me now: B Good. B I'm glad it's not a misprint. B I'm looking forward to what Mr. Robinson has to say! B This is an angle I hadn't considered. B ;-) Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:02:11 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Symposium I have asked Ruth for permission to document all the talks on JoniMitchell.com. She agreed in principal, so we all should be able to read them at some point. On 6/7/2015 11:31 AM, lesli shadowsandlight wrote: > i wonder if each participant would be willing to give jmdl a copy of their > presentation. i am so happy you'll be there jamie! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:31:46 -0700 From: lesli shadowsandlight Subject: Re: Symposium i wonder if each participant would be willing to give jmdl a copy of their presentation. i am so happy you'll be there jamie! On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Jamie Zubairi home wrote: > Laura said > Wow. I'd love to hear what people are saying at this symposium. Maybe > Malka will give us an overview when she returns if they don't document the > lectures. > > I'm doing a little workshop on Joni in June....nothing to intellectual, but > it should be fun. Matt and I are going to do a breakdown of how we > approached her music, what it means to us and I'm going to have the > workshop-goers get involved. Knowing what Joni means to everyone I wanted > to give people an opportunity to express this. Think I'll go with a sheet > to fill out rather than long drawn out stories. We'll see. Still > formulating!! > > Have a great day everyone and sending continued love and blessings to Joni. > > Laurie > > I'll be going to the symposium so I shall be glad to do a report of I get > the chance. It'll be interesting to hear what does get said about Joni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 14:47:58 -0700 From: lesli shadowsandlight Subject: conference the problem with reports here is that the papers are being presented in different rooms at the same time. jamie said: > I'll be going to the symposium so I shall be glad to do a report of I get > the chance. It'll be interesting to hear what does get said about Joni and I, "i wonder if each participant would be willing to give jmdl a copy of their presentation." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 06:53:46 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #58 Wow. I'd love to hear what people are saying at this symposium. Maybe Malka will give us an overview when she returns if they don't document the lectures. I'm doing a little workshop on Joni in June....nothing to intellectual, but it should be fun. Matt and I are going to do a breakdown of how we approached her music, what it means to us and I'm going to have the workshop-goers get involved. Knowing what Joni means to everyone I wanted to give people an opportunity to express this. Think I'll go with a sheet to fill out rather than long drawn out stories. We'll see. Still formulating!! Have a great day everyone and sending continued love and blessings to Joni. Laurie On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 12:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Saturday, June 6 2015 Volume 2015 : Number > 058 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Court and Spark Symposium draft programme [Moni Kellermann > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 17:59:00 +0200 > From: Moni Kellermann > Subject: Re: Court and Spark Symposium draft programme > > For those who don't want to or cannot open a Word docx file, here's the > contents which should have been published to that web page directly: > > > DRAFT PROGRAMME FOR COURT & SPARK: AN INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON JONI > MITCHELL. > > *Registration: 8am-9.30am [room tbc]* > [Note: the registration desk will be open until 12.30pm. Please also > note that tickets for the symposium will not be available at the > registration desk: you must buy them before the day from the Eventbrite > site]. > > 9.30 am: Welcome and housekeeping [Dr. Ruth Charnock, University of > Lincoln]. > > All symposium sessions and the keynote event will take place at the > University of Lincoln, Brayford Pool, Lincoln, LN6 7TS. > > Session 1: 10am-11am. > Panel 1: > Dr. Ian Waites [University of Lincoln]: b Somethingb s lost but > somethingb s gainedb : the early songs of Joni Mitchell and their impact > on a child living on a 1960s English council estate in Lincolnshire. > Anita Gabrielle Tedder: Pleasant Distractions or Life Savers? The impact > and appeal of the songs of Joni Mitchell. > Prof. Gary L. Dick [University of Cincinnati]: Integrating the Work of > Joni Mitchell in Psychotherapy. > > Panel 2: > Dr. Charlie Ford [University of London]: Continuity and difference in > the music of Joni Mitchellb s first ten years. > Dr. Rupert Till [University of Huddersfield]: Joni Mitchellb s vocal > phrasing. > Prof. Daniel Sonenberg [University of Southern Maine]: One With the > Fallen Angels: Joni Mitchell Orchestrates a Transition in Court and Spark. > > *11am-11.15 am: break* > > Session 2: 11.15-12.15pm. > Panel 3: > Gianluca Guerriero [University of Leeds]: Courtier and Spark: > Renaissance, Revolution and Revels on an open G-string. > Anne Hilker [Bard Graduate Centre, NYC]: b Shadows and Lightb : Joni > Mitchell as b Melencoliab . > Eugene Yamauchi [Oxford University]: Joni Mitchell sive Spinoza. > > > Panel 4: > Emily Baker [Liverpool University]: b Oh Borderlineb : 21st century Joni > Mitchell and the ageing b ravagedb voice as a site of Queer resistance. > Dr. Pamela Thurschwell [Sussex University]: b Hereb s a man and a woman > sitting on a rockb : Joni Mitchell and irritable feminism. > Prof. Peter Coviello [University of Illinois-Chicago]: Hollow: b Cactus > Treeb and the Signs of Freedom. > > *12.15- 1.30pm: Lunch [venue tbc]* > > Session 3: 1.30-2.45pm > Panel 5: > Dr. Jez Wells [University of York]: Shiny Toys: technological overtness > in productions of Joni Mitchell. > Dr. Joanne Winning [Birkbeck]: b Both Sides Nowb , voice and affect. > Dr. Michael P. Taylor [University of Bristol]: Musical progress and > emotional stasis from Blue (1971) to Hejira (1976). > > Panel 6: > Ken Davies: Beads and Bottles: An exploration of the influence of First > Nation culture in the work of Joni Mitchell. > David Russell: Songs of a Prairie Girl: The Musical Nationalism of Joni > Mitchell. > Dr. Susan Orenstein: Place and Identity: The Role of Location in the > Music of Joni Mitchell. > > Session 4: 1.30-3p.m > Panel 7: > Kate Blechinger [MacEwan University]: Making Myself with Joni: > Rehearsal, Creativity, and the Production of Musical Subjectivity. > Jim Robinson: From the Literate to the Literal: Joni Mitchell as a Comic > Muse. > Jacques Benoit: Joni Mitchell: A Woman Whose Heart, Mind, and Music > Changed Some Peopleb s Destiny. > Prof. Jeff Mann [Virginia Tech]: Lending the Outlier Pluck. > > *2.45-3.00pm: break* > > Session 5: 3.00-4.00 pm > Panel 8: > Dr. Denis Flannery [University of Leeds]: Transports of Love: Joni > Mitchell in 1976. > Prof. Gustavus Stadler [Haverford College, Pennsylvania]: b Acting Like > Touristsb : Joni Mitchell, Gender, and Narrative in the Concert Film. > Dr. Ruth Charnock [University of Lincoln]: b As the road leads cursed and > charmedb : the disappointed traveller in Joni Mitchellb s Hejira. > > 4.00pm-4.45 pm: Symposium roundtable discussion. > > 6.30pm-8pm. > Keynote event: Malka Marom, author of Joni Mitchell-Both Sides Now in > conversation with Dr. Ruth Charnock [University of Lincoln] with drinks > reception and book signing, co-hosted by Waterstones, Lincoln. [Venue: > University of Lincoln] > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2015 #58 > **************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 05:07:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Steve Danielson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #67 Mary, Good point that once an artistic work has been released to the world it is fair game. Reminds me of a very interesting documentary I watched recently called "Finding Vivian Maier". She was an extremely talented photographer, but she never published a photograph. (Almost) all her photos were found after her death, and a lot of the debate in the movie is whether it is OK to publish them now if she never did when she was alive. Here's a youtube and wiki page on that documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o2nBhQ67Zc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_Vivian_Maier I agree Turbulent Indigo is fantastic! Steve B Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 15:38:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "mep@chorus.net" Subject: RE:B JMDL Digest V2015 #56 Steve Danielson wrote: "I'm not sure Joni would be all too happy about the Symposium. She said she paints with words and music and didn't like people to over-analyze the lyrics." Steve, I'd hate to participate in (or, in my case, be excited about) something that Joni wouldn't like. B On the other hand, this reminds me a little of all the debates we had in grad school in English lit decades ago about whether authorial intent mattered, or should even be considered. B At the end of the day, I'd hope that Joni would agree that, once an artistic work is released into the world, it takes on a life of its own, and is subject to all the judgment and appreciation (and analysis) that is out there. And, as a bit of a digression, what appreciation there is! B Way back in 1994 or 1995, my brother gave me Turbulent Indigo for Christmas. B I listened to it a few nights ago after not hearing it for years, and *damn,* that's a good album! B For years, I think I accepted the popular wisdom that Joni's Grammy win for Best Pop Album in 1996 was a belated recognition of past slights. B But now, with 21 years of perspective, I'm amazed at how many songs I now regard as Joni classics are on this collection. B Thanks again to my brother for making my first listens possible. Mary P. - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #668 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe