From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #656 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, May 29 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 656 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Pat Boland [kbhla@fastmail.fm] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:10:52 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Pat Boland Nope, I don't recall one negative moment from Pat, Catherine. Then Mark wrote: > I never met him but I know he was a sweet and loving soul. I will never > forget the joy he expressed when his sister or somebody else close to him > sent him that photo that was taken of him and Joni and, I think, Chuck, > back when Pat knew them both. There at last was tangible proof, along with > flyers and ticket stubs, that he really did perform on the same stage > with her. It is amazing to read of so many people on Facebook who have related that Pat kept up a regular private correspondence with him I checked my history of FB messages from him today and saw the past was just on May 6th. I was so used to seeing him there everyday and had been concerned when he went missing the past week. I remember when he first came on the list (As "P. Henry" and a few people were dubious and challenged him that he had known Joni so far back. Last December he sent me this old post from the JMDL archives in Dec. 1998 where I wrote my little defense of him and asked me if I remembered it. We had a good laugh about it all and I was somewhat embarrassed because that was back when I was much more wordy in my posts (a habit I improved somewhat but not entirely over the years - haha!) As some will recall, he also found two old friends from back in the Cellar days who joined the list for awhile - Brian Moss and Cul Heath - and who corroborated Pat's posts and even added more great detail to those days. Here is the old post he sent me on FB. The person challenging him hasn't bee here in years and I've omitted his name ;-) Hi Kakki, I was just digging through the old list archives since someone asked about them and was reading my first grumblings there and I thought perhaps you too might like to indulge in a little nostalgia... This is what you wrote on our first meeting... kinda cool. ps - Thank you for this artful defense. I bet you were awesome on the debate team! wink emoticon Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:48:59 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: P. Henry PENs (long) **** ****** wrote: >Now if you do the math, this would make P Henry approx 47 years old >today ... 7 years joni's junior. Now admittedly the 60s were a freer >generation, but would a college-grad aged joni have been hanging out >with a high-school kid? I leave this question open ... but I for one, >will remain skeptical. The 60s were a very unique time in history. Being 17 today bears no resemblance to 30 years ago, in my opinion. The typical 17 year old male in 1968 lived with the ever-present prospect of being drafted and shipped off to Vietnam. 17 year old females also grew up a lot faster, too, and many married young because their boyfriends were being shipped out to the war. That is why the teenagers of that time fought for, and won, the right to vote at age 18 instead of 21. If an 18 year old was old enough to fight for one's country, then he or she was certainly old enough to vote. Consider that Laura Nyro had written most of the songs for her first album by the time she was 17. Joni left school alone and pregnant when she was 19 and struggled on her own as a singer-songwriter thousands of miles from home in Toronto. The Beatles were 17 and 18 when they started out in Hamburg. Back then, when I was 16 and 17, I was routinely hanging out with musicians and artist friends in their 20s. We also participated in songwriting and jam sessions on a regular basis. Two of those friends had record contracts in their teens. If any of my friends had become as famous and revered as Joni, I would find it hard now to resist posting some of my reminiscences to their discussion lists. I've been on this list for almost two years and have read many personal stories, reminiscences and revelations from listers and have enjoyed them all. I've also posted a few of my own. I also know there have been other listers who are still here who have posted stories of contact with Joni back in the 60s. Why do personal stories involving Joni trouble some of us? Are some afraid they will suffer embarassment at being "hoaxed?" So far, I have not found any offensive or objectionable content in what P. Henry has said about Joni, so why the outrage? There has been some dispute about the timing of her writing Both Sides Now, but I have read at least 3 "official" versions of when she wrote it anyway, so it's plausible to me that the song evolved over time. I hope P. Henry can give us some more stories once he is finished defending and proving himself here. At any rate, he *has* contributed some brand new acronyms to the collection wink emoticon Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #656 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe