From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #595 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, April 18 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 595 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #2043 ["kimberly" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2035 [Clint Norwood ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2037 [Steve Danielson ] Re: SFJazz [Jeff Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:32:21 -0700 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #2043 Laurie, Thanks so much for the support and deep understanding of this journey. You're exactly right, "it's like taking a trip into her soul and yours at the same time-- it's deep," as you so accurately put it. It continues to be a big undertaking but a complete honor every step of the way. Having Joni's music move through my body, voice and hands is a meditation I've never really experienced before. I sense you have had similar experiences. The shapes of the words and their story, the patterns of the guitar chords and all those tunings...you really have to surrender on so many levels. I'm working on an EP right now but hope to start a more complete recording in the fall. Someone asked about my creating a more individualized interpretation to the music going forward which of course I will. I've been frequently touring alone lately so recreate the music wherever I am with artists in those areas. The nature of these tours is giving way to some amazing reinterpretations, so I'm just watching that unfold. The Ireland tour will be all artists from that area and we hope to record that show and learn how this group will reinterpret the music. I anticipate the recording in the fall will be wildly different from the recordings on the site which are stylized close to the original recordings. When we realized how much people were yearning to hear the music we brought it out this way for them first. I've spent so much of my life as a jazz singer in obscurity, absorbed in music from another generation; "In clouds at icy altitudes," as it were. It's all been worth the journey, don't get me wrong. However, there is something about reigniting my own personal Joni roots at this point in my career that has really brought me full circle and the music touches so many people."And looking down on everything I crashed into his arms," probably says it pretty well. Regarding Joni's hospitalization; I agree with you on the space and privacy one needs when convalescing. I've just come through major surgery with my daughter and you just don't want to invite the world in until the dust settles and you're feeling ready for the energy. My daughter is doing fine now, but I could understand Joni's not wanting to included the world in her process. I teach a jazz history and music class to elementary school students. I'm now feeling we need to stretch the curriculum further forward to include Joni's work. This is how the music and the history of it lives or dies and it's an essential part of our cultural heritage. Congratulations to you on your upcoming shows! These all sound terrific. I'd love to be there!!! Thanks again for your generous note and support. Love Kimberly - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:59 PM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2043 JMDL Digest Friday, April 17 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 2043 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2040 [Laurie Antonioli ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:58:31 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2040 Hey Kimberly: Go For It! Just checked out your website and you've put tremendous work, time, love and energy into honoring Joni. It's a massive undertaking and having just come out of that process myself, know that it's like taking a trip into her soul and yours at the same time-- it's deep. And inspiring and brave. Congratulations! I didn't see a recording to purchase - it that on the way? Are you still working the material live before releasing something? Let us know! I've been pretty quiet since Joni went into the hospital. I think of her daily especially with the big gala event I'll be singing at on May 8th. We don't know if she'll be there but SFJAZZ just sent out a newsletter and they are going forward. We can only hope this means there's a glimmer of a chance she'll somehow be able to attend. I respect whatever process she's going through right now and understand her need for privacy. Though perhaps not as dramatic as Joni's recent event, I went through 3 jaw surgeries over the last few years and wasn't sure if I could continue singing. I was "on ice" in the studio when I did "Songs of Shadow" and it is getting better, but, I didn't feel much like announcing to the world I may "never sing again' or perhaps even need to go on disability. All to say, health issues are very personal and until we get on the other side of them it's not something we necessarily want the world to know about. (I'm just sharing my personal views not presuming anything about Joni) and for me, there were quite a few people in my community that knew about the surgeries. It got tiresome talking about it - in other words, I got very tired of talking about "my health problems." I got tired of myself! Especially since talking actually made my jaw feel worse! I felt obligated to tell those who knew what was going on, but, if I didn't have to work and could "hide out" that would have been the preferred way to deal with the situation. I feel positive about Joni's recovery. And for sure we must continue to celebrate her no matter what. People will be even more interested in hearing your project since it's a way to keep the energy going. My next project, coming out in the fall, is not Joni's music and since it's originals and obscure music, fewer people will relate to the recording. With Joni's music, people know the songs and enjoy hearing them - whether they are "cover" renditions, or reimagined. It's timeless and essential to our culture and she is timeless and essential. I am teaching a lyric-writing class at the Conservatory and now in week 12 finally got around to Joni. I played some of her music for the students last week - I think at least one of them had never heard her before. That aside, listening in the classroom, as she compares to all the music I play for the students, she stands out like a jewel. There's really no one or nothing quite like her and her songs. She's so very important and of course that's what fuels this chat group and what keeps many of us tuned in. Go for it. Keep the flame burning. Carry the torch. All of that. It's exactly what needs to happen. With love, Laurie On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:32 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, April 17 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 2040 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #2039 ["kimberly" < > kimberlyford@cox.net>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:45:56 -0700 > From: "kimberly" > Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #2039 > > All, > As I wait daily for news, like everyone else, I've also been waiting to > announce the release of my new band and website that is completely inspired > by Joni and her music. I touched in with Les the other day not knowing > exactly what to do. What had started out as a wonderful study and emersion > into Joni's songs quickly turned into a painful vigil with the news of her > illness. My response from Les and hopefully from you all too is that I > should just "go for it," and press on with this powerful music and tribute. > "Celebration of Joni Mitchell" is barely a year in the making and plays > music from every decade. If any of you are in the areas where we're playing > I hope that you stop in and say hi! We'll be in Galway, Ireland May 8th, > then back in the U.S on the West Coast after that. > > Here we are; Celebration Of Joni Mitchell. We're based in Santa Barbara & > Ventura, California. > www.celebrationofjonimitchell.com > > Enjoy! > In love and gratitude to Joni, > Kimberly Ford > > > > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:00 PM > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2039 > > > JMDL Digest Thursday, April 16 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 2039 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > - -------- > Coming in from the cold (NJC) ["mep chorus.net" > ] > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:59:17 -0500 > From: "mep chorus.net" > Subject: Coming in from the cold (NJC) > > Hello, all: > > My original introduction/reintroduction post of a few weeks ago somehow > kept bouncing back to me, so I thought I'd try again. Like others here, I > joined (or in my case, re-joined) the JMDL when I learned of Joni's recent > hospitalization. At that moment, the list seemed the best place to be for > some much-needed heart, humor, and humility. > > For those who don't know me, I was one of the list's old-timers from back > in the mid-90's, but got caught up in life and technical difficulties a few > years back. I've been an admirer of Joni's music since I first heard parts > of "Court & Spark" at 15 in high school study hall, and feel privileged to > have heard her in concert four times (one of which was that wonderful tour > of 1979!). The JMDL was the first online list I ever joined, and I enjoyed > meeting so many friends of spirit. > > For those who do know me, I'm sorry for the long absence. The big news is > that I lost my job a few years back due to legislative changes that > effectively repealed the state statute on which my legal career had been > based. I went back to school and am now considering several new options, > all of them pretty interesting! > > It's been great to see the old names, and to get to know the people behind > the new ones. > > As someone from the old days used to sign off (Jamie Z., are you still > here??): > > "Much Joni." > > Mary P. > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2039 > ****************************** > > - ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > - ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2040 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2043 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:07:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2035 I just want everyone to stop for a second and think about this. If generally thoughtful Joni Mitchell fans (and yes many of us are passionate and emotional and artsy blah blah) cannot get along on an email board, what chance in hell does this world have of making peace? If people who should be able to be better examples falter (yes EGO!!!) and choose the wrong thing out of hand because of our emotions, what makes us any better than warmongers and people who shake their pom poms at violence.Love and peace to all despite our humanness ;)-Clint On Friday, April 17, 2015 12:52 AM, woconnor wrote: So what! Rude Robin,B That you should B presumeB What Joni Mitchell,B Would think or do.By so doing, you accuse,B The same act as we do.Be off, rude voyeur,B None will miss you.It's the thought that counts,Of which you have few. Just a quickie poem, I thought you might like. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone - -------- Original message -------- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Date: 04/16/2015B 8:22 AMB (GMT-08:00) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2035 JMDL DigestB B B B B B BB Thursday, April 16 2015B B B B B B BB Volume 2014 : Number 2035 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- BB Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2034B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B BB ["Robin" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:21:23 -0400 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2034 Becky, I am also new to this group and joined to try and connect with others after hearing of Joni's illness.BB Having mortality stare you in the face eliminates the usual denial of it--and propelled me to commune with those who might feel as I do.BB The uneasiness that I feel with this group is the need to pull apart and look at Joni the person, and her work as pieces and examine each one with the focus of a high-powered microscope.BB Do I think that Joni would ever participate in such a discussion or want people to look at her life in this way?BB I do not.BB So for this reason I will not voyeur here any longer. Best wishes to you. Robin - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "JMDL Digest" To: Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:54 AM Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2034 > > JMDL DigestB B B B B B BB Thursday, April 16 2015B B B B B B BB Volume 2014 : Number > 2034 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- >BB RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #2022B BB [Rebecca Alexander > ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:52:16 -0400 > From: Rebecca Alexander > Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #2022 > > Mea Culpa Anita. You are correct. The only other artist digest I was a > part of > wasBB the Irish singer Mar Black who is retiring from travel performances > this > year. This group is very different in it'sBB activity so I guess I was > caght > off guard. I generally am more tolerant but it does seem irrational to me > to > guess what someone else was thinking. But I do feel the love for Joni here > and > that is what matters. Thanks for the feedback.BlessingsBecky > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy NoteB. 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > - -------- Original message -------- > From: JMDL Digest > Date: 04/16/2015BB 4:18 AMBB (GMT-05:00) > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2022 > > > JMDL DigestB B B B B B BB Thursday, April 16 2015B B B B B B BB Volume 2014 : Number > 2022 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > - -------- >BB Re: (JMDL Digest V2014 #2014) Joni's Personality/JMDLBB [Anita Gabrielle > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:11:56 +0100 > From: Anita Gabrielle > Subject: Re: (JMDL Digest V2014 #2014) Joni's Personality/JMDL > > On 16 Apr 2015, at 02:47, Rebecca Alexander > wrote: >> >> I respect Joni very much.for her unique way of seeing life. That'sBB why > she's a great artist. And I love her ability to see through the bullshit > of > the western culture. Since I joined this group I'mBB not sure why people > need > to >> pick her personality apart.God Bless You Joni. Praying for you. >> > > Hi Becky > There are always ups and downs on JMDL with all kinds of views and > opinions > expressed about the music,art,life and times of the 'great artist' Joni > Mitchell. I personally have often wondered who she really is, what > motivates > her, how her great gift manifested etc for well over forty years. > > Joni's relationship (or rather lack of relationship) to feminism is > currently > part of the discussion here on JMDL right now. And there is considerable > variety of views. > > You feel that Joni has the ability to see through the 'bullshit of the > western > culture." Maybe others will see things quite differently from you. The > variety > of views, opinions and topics is the reason that JMDL is not Joni > sycophantic > but an interesting, vibrant discussion list. However, that fact does bring > personal challenges to everyone here, from time to time. I unsubscribed a > while back over something that irritated me, but realised I was being > overly > precious. I often want the Whole World to agree with my every > sentiment:-))) I > know you will understand the power of Ego. > > Unlike you, I don't experience people here picking Joni's personality > apart, > but there is always a lot of talk here about who in the world she might > be. > Overall, there is more deep understanding, appreciation and Love for Joni > and > her work amongst the people who read these posts than anywhere else I have > found. > > There will be many here continuing to pray for her. I know I am, > Anita > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2022 > ****************************** > > - ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > - ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2034 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2035 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:51:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Steve Danielson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #2037 Jeff, Glad you liked that article. Cool that you had run across Howard Gardner before and his article on intelligence mentions Joni! I have 220 Joni songs on my iPod and have been listening a lot lately. I appreciate folks who have posted some obscure videos with Joni. This page is cool, I don't remember if someone posted it here to the list, or I found it on Google. http://loft965.com/2015/04/03/loft-list-10-underrated-songs-by-joni-mitchell/ I had never seen her performance on the Jay Leno show, that was great! Steve From: JMDL Digest To: joni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:51 PM Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2037 JMDL DigestB B B B Thursday, April 16 2015B B B B Volume 2014 : Number 2037 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- B Re: Fountain of LightB B B B B B B B [Jeff Clark ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:48:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Fountain of Light Steve wrote: <> Thank you Steve. It all comes from the Master, that Fountain of Wisdom. That Joni line from Amelia registered strongly with me as well for many years, and I'm sure to many others. Thank you for that Scientific American article of intelligence. I marked that and am going to try to print the whole thing out this w/end. I enjoy reading stuff like that. Its sad to see people leaving the list. I was thinking today how a Joni list softball team would do against David Crosby's lists team. I was guessing they would run out of breath sooner and we would cream them. But can't do it if no ones here.B Jeff - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #2037 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 01:15:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: SFJazz Vincenzo worte: <> Not me! I'd like to take Joni out for cranberry juice and cappuccino though. Or lemonade ;) Jeff ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #595 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe