From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #588 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, April 14 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 588 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Fountain of sorrow [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Daisy & Joni's Hospital Stay [Rose ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:30:27 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Fountain of sorrow I understand when she doesn't want to get sisterly and be reduced to a political idea. I think you guys should be happy we have a "hero" that truly does put up the middle finger when it is needed. > -Clint > Clint, just expressing a bit of disappointment 'twas all. I accept that everything I write says more about me than it ever does about Joni. However, Feminists transformed my whole life and they certainly put up the middle finger when it was most needed. I remember their fingers every time I vote, Anita > > On Monday, April 13, 2015 11:48 AM, Anita Gabrielle wrote: > > > Catherine wrote: > > > > And, quoting Joni: > > > > "I always thought the women of song don't get along, and I don't know why that is. I had a hard time with Laura Nyro also, and Joan Baez would have broken my leg if she could, or at least that's the way it felt as a person coming out [on to the music scene]. I never felt that same sense of competition from men." > > Having found myself prepared to battle tooth and nail to defend Joni these past weeks, these kinds of quotes about her difficult relationships with women and, of course, her notorious lack of relationship to feminism, are the points at which I have always felt my most disappointed. Having talked about the amount of projection and transference Joni has to contend with, I wonder if these are Joni's projections? Maybe, maybe not, but it is sad that she has felt so unsupported and, in fact, in competition with other women. > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 20:57:13 -0400 From: Rose Subject: Re: Daisy & Joni's Hospital Stay A friend of mine is a Doctor, and brought up Joni when we spoke yesterday. Just based on some recent photographs she had seen of Joni; it was her opinion that Joni has been suffering from some sort of chronic illness. She said she did not look well at all. Annie always gives it to me straight. She asked me about the Morgellons disease because she had never heard of it before and she asked the spelling and was going to look it up. I explained to her it was thought to be delusional. Daisy does resemble her grandma. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Laura O wrote: > > Hi Sue, > > Thanks for that information from your RN sister. We'll just have to wait and see...... > > Oh, I agree with you totally about Daisy and Joni's resemblance. If there was any doubt about Kilauren.....just had to look at Daisy and no DNA test needed......and Marlin looks so much like Brad! Aren't genes interesting!! > > Laura > > >> On 4/13/2015 10:29 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: >> Hi Laura, >> >> My sister is a Joni fan and a nurse and she also had theories about what's going on with Joni based on the news reports. She thought that maybe Joni passed out because of a heart arrhythmia and the surgical procedure may have been a pacemaker. Not sure if that makes sense but she's been a nurse for 35 years, and without any other reports (tomorrow it will be two weeks!) I think it sounds plausible. >> >> I've seen some of Daisy's Youtube videos. She likes fashion and makeup and Justin Beiber just like most teens her age!! She's adorable and a dead ringer for Joni, I think. :-) >> >> Sue >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Laura O. >> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 10:28 AM >> To: joni@smoe.org; Susan E. McNamara >> Subject: Daisy & Joni's Hospital Stay >> >> I'm so glad you re-posted this because if Kakki had posted this on the JMDL I missed it. And altho I can see alot on facebook NOT being a member, I couldn't access the link because of that reason. >> >> I've read some of Daisy's responses, sometimes heated & defensive, on YouTube pages so I know she's out there (whether people choose to believe she's Joni's grandchild or not) I was excited to hear what she had to say. >> >> Having worked in a hospital, altho not a nurse, but behind the scene of those hard-working professionals an older person can be put in the Intensive Care unit for even a small procedure that a younger person may go home that same day. A 71 year old woman, and taking into consideration present AND PAST health issues, would want to be given >> 24/7 observation which is done in ICU. Babies and senior citizens can get dehydrated and not recover, and be gone just-like-that! Also, being she smokes.... not being able to smoke for a given period of time due to an immediate health issue could cause her body to go thru serious withdrawels and that would also have to be dealt with and how that affects her heart and other organs and extending a hospital stay. >> ANY procedure where one has to go under anesthesia is ALWAYS risky (look at the forms you need to sign). So if it's serious or minor I'm glad she's being taken care of and watched. Altho, at this point she could have been in and out of instensive care within 24 hours and is being taken care of in a private room until the time the doctors feel it's safe she can go home. It's all speculation. But the sooner she can safely go home the better, because one can also pick-up deadly infections (Staff) in a hospital. Who was it that reminded us Joni doesn't like hospitals/doctors here? yeah good reminder, I had forgotten. But, hopefully, being surrounded by her friends/family, she's feeling the love and getting some well-deserved rest! >> >> But it's good to know that Daisy says she's progressing well. The fact she says it was a 'miracle' makes me believe something serious took place, or something serious somehow past over her and the doc's are making sure she's stable and were looking for something 'hidden'. >> >> There is a power to prayer, so the more of us praying for her, the better. I'm sure that some of those in her tight group of friends she has are doing so as well, if they are so inclined to pray. >> >> In the pictures of her appearances thru the years, I've observed many of her 'close friends' right next to her or in other photos of the events...so you know they are there with her even if they don't make her photo shots. >> >> This is a good article written by her make-up artist and close friend (altho now, sadly, deceased) Paul Starr. But the feeling from the writing is that Joni has quite the social life (hidden from the >> public) and likes the sense of 'community' where she lives. Even when seen, alone, in public eating in restaurants (as Kakki can confirm), she's not in a dark back corner with management keeping her hidden, but sitting in the open with her little dog, which of course grabs attention and invites conversation, and wouldn't one say Joni is an observer, people watcher? Perhaps she finds this relaxing as well as stimulating. >> >> I take comfort in knowing she's surrounded by trusted friends, younger ones and old ones. I think this is a great little interview, I not only get a peek into her make-up bag (I like knowing what skin care cream she uses HAHA) but I got a real sense of her private life and friendships. She may be reclusive from the press but she's no "I vant to be alone" Greta Garbo! I believe she needs and seeks stimulation from discussions and visiting with friends (and strangers) keeps her inspired. >> >> Read to the bottom... >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1461&from=search >> >> Check out the article just posted in the LIBRARY. Reading it and all the links is an education about Morgellons. I think even if Joni's hospital stay has nothing to do with Morgellons she may be glad to hear it's stirring up interest and, even for a little while, would rather people become aware of it, discuss it and others speak out that they also have it, then what may truly be the cause of her hospitalization. http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2954 >> >> Laura >> **************************************** >> Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:03:44 +0000 >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >> Subject: RE: Missing Joni >> >> Mary, >> >> It came to our attention earlier in the day, through our good friend Kakki, that Daisy, Joni's granddaughter, responded to a Facebook post on the Joni Mitchell FB page telling folks the following: >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb - for all that are worried, joni is recovering very well and is being considered a "miracle" i am a close relative of hers, and we are happy to say she is progressing well. >> 18 hrs * Unlike * 25 >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb illness has nothing to do with smoking >> 19 hrs * Unlike * 6 >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb i'm sure when she's out her statement will be said, at this time i can't tell anyone what she has. >> 19 hrs * Like * 6 >> >> Here's a link to the page, but you may not be able to see it if you are not a member of this FB group: >> http://tinyurl.com/o8pg33v ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #588 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe