From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #582 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, April 11 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 582 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Globe and Mail [Michael Sentance ] Re: Globe and Mail [Catherine McKay ] Re: Globe and Mail [Anita G ] Re: JMDL is fragile too [Victor Johnson ] Jackson Browne's pain ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Globe and Mail [Catherine McKay ] RE: Emily Carr exhibit, Art Gallery of Ontario [Barbara Sullivan ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1991 [David Gizara ] Fountain of Sorrow & Jackson & Joni ["Laura O." ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1974 [Birdie Breeze ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1973 [Corey Blake ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1971 [Pavla Frazier ] Emily Carr exhibit, Art Gallery of Ontario [Catherine McKay ] Re: Fountain of sorrow [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni and smokes [Jeff Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 10:57:22 -0400 From: Michael Sentance Subject: Globe and Mail I find solace in the digest as we await information. It's like being part of a candlelight vigil. In the meantime, there is this unpleasant speculation from Toronto: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/music/its-time-to-stop-tiptoeing-around-j oni-mitchells-health-condition/article23883495/ Russell Smith: Itbs time to stop tiptoeing around Joni Mitchellbs health condition RUSSELL SMITH Special to The Globe and Mail he media have been unusually careful about reporting Joni Mitchellbs condition since she fell ill a couple of weeks ago. This is because people love her songs, and because they love her as a symbol of emotional sensitivity, of a certain idealistic age, of womenbs rights (since she succeeded in a male, rock bnb roll-dominated era of popular music) and perhaps of their own childhoods. So we are being extremely delicate in our reporting. No news items have revealed what exactly caused her sudden hospitalization, but all have mentioned that she bsuffers from Morgellons disease.b This is because Mitchell herself described the affliction and used its name in an interview in 2010. News stories may then carefully allude to the fact that this bdiseaseb is bmysteriousb or even bcontroversial.b But the damage is done: The phrase bsuffers from Morgellonsb is quite simply inaccurate, and even harmful, in that it perpetuates a delusion. Those who claim to be suffering from it are more likely suffering a psychiatric illness, experts say. If thatbs the case with Mitchell, we should really be saying she brevealed in 2010 that she suffers from delusional parasitosis.b The name Morgellons was invented by a person who is not a doctor and is not employed by any hospital, university or research institution. It was intensely studied by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States, and the CDCbs conclusions, released in 2012, were straightforward: Researchers found no common cause of the disease, and say those who believe they have it have often self-diagnosed after encountering websites that describe it. In other words, it is a delusion that is spread by the Internet. The fact that newspapers are being so tactful about the possibility of psychiatric disturbance in Mitchellbs case is incongruent with the supposedly new attitudes about mental illness that are being trumpeted in those same newspapers. Arenbt we constantly reading about how we should bend the stigmab when it comes to mental illness? Arenbt we being told that there is no shame in psychiatric disorders, that their sufferers should not be morally judged, that they should be open about their ailments? Wasnbt that the goal of Bellbs massively hyped bLetbs Talkb campaign? If there is no shame in being depressed, why should we be afraid of the shame involved in suffering from delusions? Furthermore, recent years have seen a spate of studies, articles and books claiming a connection between mental illness and artistry or creativity. These have been eagerly received by anyone who has ever felt down in the dumps or nervous in an elevator; they have served to romanticize neurosis. It turns out there is a slightly higher incidence of certain mood disorders, such as depression and bipolar disorder, among professional artists. Simultaneously, a popular idea identifies Aspergerbs syndrome as an infallible indicator of genius. Cue the endless lists of b10 eccentric artistsb and b20 great writers who were drunks.b Michelangelo never washed, so your occasional weeping jags and your fear of job interviews may mean you are actually a misunderstood artistic genius. Being an bintrovertb suddenly became sexy; 100 Internet quizzes bloomed, designed to show you that you were introverted. In fact, anyone who isnbt actually sociopathic will obtain a high score on these tests. They are designed to reassure you that you are actually sensitive and may yet create your artistic masterwork. This popular connection between sadness and creativity plays into a long-cherished myth of the artist as tortured, and it comforts everyone who has ever written poems by saying they are actually hypersensitive, that they are special. So why didnbt all these studies about the unusual and desirable craziness of artists get trotted out in the Joni Mitchell case? Because her belief in Morgellons is not sexy. Anxiety is romantic, depression is romantic. Delusional parasitosis is just sad and worrying. There is another reason for our reluctance to cast the singer in a bad light, and it is a particularly contemporary one. There has been a lot of worrying lately b particularly after the child-abuse accusations made against Woody Allen b about what artistsb personalities mean to our moral relationship with their art. I thought this question had been resolved centuries ago: Lots of artists did terrible things and held unacceptable views, and we studied their work in university. No problem. But a new radicalism seems to have taken hold of the young on this issue. There is now a sense that to digest a piece of art made by a bad person is to digest his badness, to become contaminated by it. So we should avoid the art of bad people. (Admittedly, the proponents of the theory are rather selective in the artists they choose to blacklist for moral crimes: I have not once ever heard anyone suggest a ban on the music of Michael Jackson, for example.) If you start requiring your favourite artists to be good people, then you start running into moral quandaries of your own. You find out too late, for example, that they did something bad in their youth, or that they just announced that they didnbt believe in feminism (as Joni Mitchell did in 2013). Then you must affect all kinds of intellectual contortions to justify that artistbs flaws, rather than just shrugging your shoulders and saying, bWhat an idiot. Nice rhyme scheme, though.b Life would be easier for Mitchell fans if they didnbt have to tiptoe around her condition. She may be a little unbalanced, or even highly neurotic b we donbt know for sure. But either way, we can still love her songs. And if shebs suffering from delusional parasitosis, it would in fact be more compassionate to describe her as a victim of mental illness than to preserve a fictitious persona. After all, her songs will live for much longer than she does. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:35:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Globe and Mail Sorry, everyone. I sent that in rich-text and it took away the url. Here it is: http://harpers.org/archive/2013/09/the-devils-bait/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine McKay To: Michael Sentance ; "joni@smoe.org" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Globe and Mail Someone posted a link on Facebook yesterday to an article on Morgellon's that might have been posted here as well when it came out. Be warned: you will no doubt feel icky and itchy when you read it. I think the writer does a good job of balancing the crazies/addicts against the sane (or seemingly sane) people who say they have Morgellon's, or who have something that matches its symptoms. I reserve judgement on this. I remember years ago getting a phone call at work from a woman who described many of these symptoms and was looking for help, at a time when none of us had heard the word "Morgellon's" and thinking this woman did NOT sound crazy. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:46:18 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Globe and Mail On 11 April 2015 at 20:23, Catherine McKay wrote: > So, I wonder what the G&M's writer's point really was. > I don't know that there really is one. Suffering is suffering. Just who is this 'fictitious persona'? I think Joni is the victim of a pile of projection and transference, especially in this article, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 10:51:06 -0700 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: JMDL is fragile too Jim, have you had your coffee yet this morning? Victor in Bend NP: Phish "Alumni Blues" On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > If I remember correctly, the JMDL is on a platform called smoe. I think it is hosted on a liberal college server. Whomever started smoe abandoned it years ago, left no forwarding address, and no new leadership. > > It sounds like a science fiction script to me. Perhaps one day smoe, having no parent, and no (known) lineage, will be dropped without notice or recourse. > > Les floated the idea of moving the JMDL email list. He was quickly shot down, probably by the silent majority of non-technical people who don't even grasp the problem, or how profoundly simple the solutions are. > > One day, we will be JMDL's virtual orphans as we are in real life. There will be no farewell, no funeral, no wake, no resurrection. > > We'll go back to where we came; we will admire Joni in isolation, until each of us blink off too. > > Jim > > >> From: Birdie Breeze >> Yes the list does that sometimes. > >>> From: "mep chorus.net" >>> Has anyone else been getting a spurt of "digests" today that are only >>> single posts? >>> >>> I also seem to be getting a lot of repeat posts. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:35:01 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Jackson Browne's pain >a woman stands >before an open window >looking so >far >away > ------------------------------------- > From: Rebecca Alexander > > I love Jackson Brown too. I never knew that song was about Joni either. I > always figured it was related to his wife who committed suicide. Seems like he > did a lot of songs related to that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:08:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Globe and Mail Someone posted a link on Facebook yesterday to an article on Morgellon's that might have been posted here as well when it came out. Be warned: you will no doubt feel icky and itchy when you read it. I think the writer does a good job of balancing the crazies/addicts against the sane (or seemingly sane) people who say they have Morgellon's, or who have something that matches its symptoms. I reserve judgement on this. I remember years ago getting a phone call at work from a woman who described many of these symptoms and was looking for help, at a time when none of us had heard the word "Morgellon's" and thinking this woman did NOT sound crazy. [Essay] | The Devil's Bait, by Leslie Jamison | Harper's Magazine | B | | B | | B | B | B | B | B | | [Essay] | The Devil's Bai...Symptoms, signs, and the riddle of Morgellons | | | | View on harpers.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | B | B From: Michael Sentance To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:57 AM Subject: Globe and Mail I find solace in the digest as we await information. It's like being part of a candlelight vigil. In the meantime, there is this unpleasant speculation from Toronto: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/music/its-time-to-stop-tiptoeing-around-j oni-mitchells-health-condition/article23883495/ Russell Smith: Itbs time to stop tiptoeing around Joni Mitchellbs health condition RUSSELL SMITH Special to The Globe and Mail he media have been unusually careful about reporting Joni Mitchellbs condition since she fell ill a couple of weeks ago. This is because people love her songs, and because they love her as a symbol of emotional sensitivity, of a certain idealistic age, of womenbs rights (since she succeeded in a male, rock bnb roll-dominated era of popular music) and perhaps of their own childhoods. So we are being extremely delicate in our reporting. No news items have revealed what exactly caused her sudden hospitalization, but all have mentioned that she bsuffers from Morgellons disease.b This is because Mitchell herself described the affliction and used its name in an interview in 2010. News stories may then carefully allude to the fact that this bdiseaseb is bmysteriousb or even bcontroversial.b But the damage is done: The phrase bsuffers from Morgellonsb is quite simply inaccurate, and even harmful, in that it perpetuates a delusion. Those who claim to be suffering from it are more likely suffering a psychiatric illness, experts say. If thatbs the case with Mitchell, we should really be saying she brevealed in 2010 that she suffers from delusional parasitosis.b The name Morgellons was invented by a person who is not a doctor and is not employed by any hospital, university or research institution. It was intensely studied by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States, and the CDCbs conclusions, released in 2012, were straightforward: Researchers found no common cause of the disease, and say those who believe they have it have often self-diagnosed after encountering websites that describe it. In other words, it is a delusion that is spread by the Internet. The fact that newspapers are being so tactful about the possibility of psychiatric disturbance in Mitchellbs case is incongruent with the supposedly new attitudes about mental illness that are being trumpeted in those same newspapers. Arenbt we constantly reading about how we should bend the stigmab when it comes to mental illness? Arenbt we being told that there is no shame in psychiatric disorders, that their sufferers should not be morally judged, that they should be open about their ailments? Wasnbt that the goal of Bellbs massively hyped bLetbs Talkb campaign? If there is no shame in being depressed, why should we be afraid of the shame involved in suffering from delusions? Furthermore, recent years have seen a spate of studies, articles and books claiming a connection between mental illness and artistry or creativity. These have been eagerly received by anyone who has ever felt down in the dumps or nervous in an elevator; they have served to romanticize neurosis. It turns out there is a slightly higher incidence of certain mood disorders, such as depression and bipolar disorder, among professional artists. Simultaneously, a popular idea identifies Aspergerbs syndrome as an infallible indicator of genius. Cue the endless lists of b10 eccentric artistsb and b20 great writers who were drunks.b Michelangelo never washed, so your occasional weeping jags and your fear of job interviews may mean you are actually a misunderstood artistic genius. Being an bintrovertb suddenly became sexy; 100 Internet quizzes bloomed, designed to show you that you were introverted. In fact, anyone who isnbt actually sociopathic will obtain a high score on these tests. They are designed to reassure you that you are actually sensitive and may yet create your artistic masterwork. This popular connection between sadness and creativity plays into a long-cherished myth of the artist as tortured, and it comforts everyone who has ever written poems by saying they are actually hypersensitive, that they are special. So why didnbt all these studies about the unusual and desirable craziness of artists get trotted out in the Joni Mitchell case? Because her belief in Morgellons is not sexy. Anxiety is romantic, depression is romantic. Delusional parasitosis is just sad and worrying. There is another reason for our reluctance to cast the singer in a bad light, and it is a particularly contemporary one. There has been a lot of worrying lately b particularly after the child-abuse accusations made against Woody Allen b about what artistsb personalities mean to our moral relationship with their art. I thought this question had been resolved centuries ago: Lots of artists did terrible things and held unacceptable views, and we studied their work in university. No problem. But a new radicalism seems to have taken hold of the young on this issue. There is now a sense that to digest a piece of art made by a bad person is to digest his badness, to become contaminated by it. So we should avoid the art of bad people. (Admittedly, the proponents of the theory are rather selective in the artists they choose to blacklist for moral crimes: I have not once ever heard anyone suggest a ban on the music of Michael Jackson, for example.) If you start requiring your favourite artists to be good people, then you start running into moral quandaries of your own. You find out too late, for example, that they did something bad in their youth, or that they just announced that they didnbt believe in feminism (as Joni Mitchell did in 2013). Then you must affect all kinds of intellectual contortions to justify that artistbs flaws, rather than just shrugging your shoulders and saying, bWhat an idiot. Nice rhyme scheme, though.b Life would be easier for Mitchell fans if they didnbt have to tiptoe around her condition. She may be a little unbalanced, or even highly neurotic b we donbt know for sure. But either way, we can still love her songs. And if shebs suffering from delusional parasitosis, it would in fact be more compassionate to describe her as a victim of mental illness than to preserve a fictitious persona. After all, her songs will live for much longer than she does. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:51:54 -0400 From: Barbara Sullivan Subject: RE: Emily Carr exhibit, Art Gallery of Ontario Thanks Catherine,It said open until August, I may try and get over to see it too.I bet Joni would like to see it. If she gets better God willing, she might. Barb> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:21:55 +0000 > From: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Emily Carr exhibit, Art Gallery of Ontario > > There is no actual Joni-content in the article referenced below, but while we > watch and wait and hope for Joni to get well soon, I thought I'd share this > article. We know from the Massey Hall tribute and her spoken song, "This > Rain", that Joni is a fan of the painter and writer, Emily Carr. An exhibition > of Carr's work starts today at the Art Gallery of Ontario, here in Toronto. I > have a membership in the AGO and will definitely be going to that one! > > http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/visualarts/2015/04/11/emily-carr-rises-a > bove-the-group-at-ago-show.html > > In particular, these lines from the article stand out for me: > > "From her home near Victoriabs inner harbour, shebd watch dugout canoes > carrying people from the nearby Songhees First Nation paddle in and pull up on > shore. Trading for provisions at her fatherbs general store, theybd come > close enough to touch before skimming silently away, back across the water to > their unimaginable world." > > They immediately bring to mind some lines from Joni's "Paprika Plains": > "When I was three feet tall > And wide eyed open to it all > With their tasseled teams they came > To McGee's General Store." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:14:04 -0700 From: David Gizara Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1962 Laura was a great talent. This year my annual Joni Mitchell Jazz Summer Solstice Radio Special will be the Laura Nyro/Joni Mitchell Jazz Summer Solstice Radio Special paying tribute to these two great composers. David Gizara Thursday Night Jazz KLCC on Facebook. On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:26 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, April 10 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1962 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > RE: Laura Nyro's Anniversary of Death Today (NJC) [Barbara Sullivan > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:24:36 -0400 > From: Barbara Sullivan > Subject: RE: Laura Nyro's Anniversary of Death Today (NJC) > > I saw her at Detroit's Masonic Temple too that year!!I adore her music too. > Thanks for sharing your story!Hard to believe she has been gone 18 yrs. Her > music lives on!! Barb> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 13:52:50 -0400 >> From: nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: Laura Nyro's Anniversary of Death Today (NJC) >> >> Hello dear Joni friends, >> >> Today is the 18th Anniversary of Laura Nyro's passing. I think this is >> about one of the only female artists Joni has spoken favorably of. >> Also, I have been thinking of Joni every day and am sending up my >> prayers that she is healing and will be fully recovered soon!! >> >> I know there are many on the list who love or even just like Laura, and >> since I rarely post, I wanted to take time on this special day to share >> one of two stories of my interactions with Laura in my life. I belong >> to a Laura Nyro Facebook page and posted it there, but didn't feel >> comfortable posting it on the Joni Facebook page, so I'm posting it here >> with NJC so that people who are interested may read it, and those who >> aren't can skip or delete it. I have two old Joni stories too that I >> will share with you all (again for some of you who have been around for >> a long time on the list, as I have) as time and energy permits. >> >> Here is my post to the Laura Nyro Facebook page. Hopefully, it copies >> properly and readable!! And I hope you enjoy it. >> >> Start of post: >> >> On this day of our dear Laura's passing, I thought I would share one of >> two stories I have about my experiences with Laura. It was December 4th, >> 1970. I was all of 18 years old and Laura was making her first >> appearance at the University of Detroit. I had seen Laura twice >> previously at Detroit's Masonic Temple. A friend and I drove to the >> airport and I was determined to catch every plane coming in from New >> York that I could, hoping that Laura would be on one of them. I was >> lucky and I hit the jackpot. As we were waiting at one of the boarding >> gates, a New York flight had landed and people were disembarking. There >> was suddenly a small crowd around a woman and as she made her way >> through them, to my shock and delight, I saw Laura. She was in a long >> black dress as I recall, with an unknown man, and made her way through >> the terminal. I had heard from somewhere in the crowd that she had just >> come in from Japan through New York, (although that may not be true) and >> wasn't feeling well. I had brought her a box containing a long stemmed >> red rose and approached her after she and her friend walked after >> leaving the crowd. I was so stunned, I don't remember everything I said, >> but I did give her the box with the rose, and she extended her hand to >> me which I lightly grasped. I recall asking for an autograph which she >> politely declined, asking if she could do it after the show. I do >> remember saying, "Will you meet us after the show?" and she said "Yes." >> She thanked me, we backed away, and the man she was with must have said >> something to her like "oh you're so famous" or something like that >> because she took the box with the rose and smiled and lightly popped him >> on the head with it. When we left the airport the weather had turned >> into a horrible snowstorm and I was afraid I wouldn't get through the >> mess to get to the concert. I did make it - and that was the night she >> only did a 30 minute set, even asking the audience if they had a cough >> drop (which someone gave her). She abruptly left the stage after only a >> few songs and I never saw her again that night. >> >> Later an article appeared in the paper saying that Laura was coming back >> to U. of D. to do a repeat concert for free, to make up for the short >> concert in December. (The article mistakenly stated November) She paid >> all expenses, and true to her word, came back and did the most amazing >> concert I ever saw, in the round. I remember her doing "You Beat Me To >> The Punch" "Gypsy Woman" and "He's Sure The Boy I Love." It was simply >> amazing. >> >> So on this special day, I look to the spiritual realm and say "Laura, I >> love you so, I always will. You changed my life forever. I miss you more >> and more every day and will cherish your music forever. You are a part >> of me always and I am privileged to have had the blessing to physically >> touch the most wonderful artist ever, as you have touched me with your >> phenomenal music." I hope someone buries me with New York Tendaberry! >> >> P.S. I love Laura and Joni Mitchell equally, I always have. Joni, please >> get well soon! >> >> End of post. >> >> If you love Laura, maybe spin one of her songs in her memory today. >> >> Much love to you, my Joni friends on this day and always. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Gary Z. >> Detroit > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1962 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:58:32 -0700 From: David Gizara Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1991 Oh yes, the beautiful Billy Childs recording. Three from that one for sure. Definitely Renee Flemings NY Tendaberry. # from Mark Winkler as well and his Laura project. D On Apr 10, 2015, at 4:39 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, April 10 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1991 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Laura & Joni [Bob Muller ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:36:04 -0400 > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Laura & Joni > > That'll be easy. You can just play the Billy Childs' record plus the best of my volumes. > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1991 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:41:49 -0500 From: "Laura O." Subject: Fountain of Sorrow & Jackson & Joni Robert thanks for this info. Never heard this before. And Sue thanks for the video link. I looked up the lyrics and listened to YouTube while following the words.. Very interesting stuff. But of course Jackson doesn't confirm it's about Joni here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2838 But musicmuse, who claims to know the family and being very close to Jackson's mother says: "...he had a relationship with Joni Mitchell back in the day, and "Fountain of Sorrow" was written about her. She painted the picture of him I saw in his mother's livingroom. The song she wrote about him years later was not as flattering... "You Were Not To Blame" https://www.flickr.com/photos/42304632@N00/334677444/ Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:57:54 -0700 From: Birdie Breeze Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1974 Well... I seriously doubt that she has been allowed to smoke in the hospital. That's being off to a good start. Birdie Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2015, at 11:44 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Friday, April 10 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1974 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > RE: Missing Joni [Barbara Sullivan ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:42:28 -0400 > From: Barbara Sullivan > Subject: RE: Missing Joni > > Thanks for sharing!!> From: sem8@cornell.edu >> To: joni2city@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org >> Subject: RE: Missing Joni >> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:03:44 +0000 >> >> Mary, >> >> It came to our attention earlier in the day, through our good friend Kakki, > that Daisy, Joni's granddaughter, responded to a Facebook post on the Joni > Mitchell FB page telling folks the following: >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb - for all that are worried, joni is recovering very well > and is being considered a "miracle" i am a close relative of hers, and we are > happy to say she is progressing well. >> 18 hrs * Unlike * 25 >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb illness has nothing to do with smoking >> 19 hrs * Unlike * 6 >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb i'm sure when she's out her statement will be said, at > this time i can't tell anyone what she has. >> 19 hrs * Like * 6 >> >> Here's a link to the page, but you may not be able to see it if you are not > a member of this FB group: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/o8pg33v >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mary >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:45 PM >> To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST >> Subject: Missing Joni >> >> I'm as upset and concerned as everyone. This long hospital stay has me > thinking Joni is not feeling well at all. I have been wishing her a speedy > recovery since I heard the news. >> >> GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire >> meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1974 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:12:29 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1973 Or it could be a privacy issue. Joni should reveal what she wants when she wants. > On Apr 10, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Kevin Foehr wrote: > > Good to hear, but it still worries me -- the fact that Daisy can't talk about > her condition makes me think maybe there is some long-term problem. B I hope > my worry is unfounded. B Kevin F. > > From: JMDL Digest > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 2:33 PM > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1973 > > > JMDL DigestB B B B Friday, April 10 2015B B B B Volume 2014 : Number > 1973 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > B Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1971B B B [Pavla Frazier > ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:33:12 -0400 > From: Pavla Frazier > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1971 > > Thank you for sharingB - wonderful to hear. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, JMDL Digest >> wrote: >> >> >> JMDL DigestB B B B Friday, April 10 2015B B B B Volume 2014 : Number > 1971 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> B RE: Missing JoniB B B B B B B B B ["Susan E. McNamara" > ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:03:44 +0000 >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >> Subject: RE: Missing Joni >> >> Mary, >> >> It came to our attention earlier in the day, through our good friend Kakki, > that Daisy, Joni's granddaughter, responded to a Facebook post on the Joni > Mitchell FB page telling folks the following: >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb - for all that are worried, joni is recovering very well > and is being considered a "miracle" i am a close relative of hers, and we are > happy to say she is progressing well. >> 18 hrs * Unlike * 25 >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb illness has nothing to do with smoking >> 19 hrs * Unlike * 6 >> >> Daisy Claire Gibb i'm sure when she's out her statement will be said, at > this time i can't tell anyone what she has. >> 19 hrs * Like * 6 >> >> Here's a link to the page, but you may not be able to see it if you are not > a member of this FB group: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/o8pg33v ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:33:12 -0400 From: Pavla Frazier Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1971 Thank you for sharing - wonderful to hear. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Friday, April 10 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1971 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > RE: Missing Joni ["Susan E. McNamara" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:03:44 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: RE: Missing Joni > > Mary, > > It came to our attention earlier in the day, through our good friend Kakki, that Daisy, Joni's granddaughter, responded to a Facebook post on the Joni Mitchell FB page telling folks the following: > > Daisy Claire Gibb - for all that are worried, joni is recovering very well and is being considered a "miracle" i am a close relative of hers, and we are happy to say she is progressing well. > 18 hrs * Unlike * 25 > > Daisy Claire Gibb illness has nothing to do with smoking > 19 hrs * Unlike * 6 > > Daisy Claire Gibb i'm sure when she's out her statement will be said, at this time i can't tell anyone what she has. > 19 hrs * Like * 6 > > Here's a link to the page, but you may not be able to see it if you are not a member of this FB group: > > http://tinyurl.com/o8pg33v > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mary > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 1:45 PM > To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > Subject: Missing Joni > > I'm as upset and concerned as everyone. This long hospital stay has me thinking Joni is not feeling well at all. I have been wishing her a speedy recovery since I heard the news. > > GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire > meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1971 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:21:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Emily Carr exhibit, Art Gallery of Ontario There is no actual Joni-content in the article referenced below, but while we watch and wait and hope for Joni to get well soon, I thought I'd share this article. We know from the Massey Hall tribute and her spoken song, "This Rain", that Joni is a fan of the painter and writer, Emily Carr. An exhibition of Carr's work starts today at the Art Gallery of Ontario, here in Toronto. I have a membership in the AGO and will definitely be going to that one! http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/visualarts/2015/04/11/emily-carr-rises-a bove-the-group-at-ago-show.html In particular, these lines from the article stand out for me: "From her home near Victoriabs inner harbour, shebd watch dugout canoes carrying people from the nearby Songhees First Nation paddle in and pull up on shore. Trading for provisions at her fatherbs general store, theybd come close enough to touch before skimming silently away, back across the water to their unimaginable world." They immediately bring to mind some lines from Joni's "Paprika Plains": "When I was three feet tall And wide eyed open to it all With their tasseled teams they came To McGee's General Store." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:25:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1971 Yes, indeedy! that would do the trick! From: Mary To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 2:11 PM Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1971 Well, I hope they put up a little Christmas Tree in her hospital room, so she could sing to it. B B ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:36:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fountain of sorrow Hello, Marion! I had that same Joan Baez album, which is where I first heard the song "Fountain of Sorrow." I'm guessing that Joan B just liked the song without knowing who it was about or even if it was about a particular person. I'm quite sure Jackson Browne didn't reveal who it was about for a long time. Sometimes you just like a song for what it says to you without knowing if it's based in actual history or just resonates with you somehow. From: Marion Leffler To: jmdl Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:30 AM Subject: Fountain of sorrow I guess you all are aware of the cover Joan Baez did on her album Diamonds and Rust. If this song is about Joni, how come JB covered it? As I recall Joni and Joan are supposed to be anything but friends, according to this list. On the other hand, they did Dida together, very beautifully too. So I am left wondering... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:42:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Joni and smokes Birdie wrote: <> Its none of my business, but I hope this is the end of Joni's smoking once and for all. I'm sure most of us know people, aunts, uncles, friends, etc hooked up to oxygen, at least I have. I'd hate to see Joni end up like that. Jeff ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #582 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe