From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #499 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 15 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 499 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1749 [Bob Muller ] Re: Eastern Rain [Jeff Clark ] Joni tributes [Jeff Clark ] Re: Joni synchronicity on the train [Bob Muller ] Eastern Rain [Laurie Antonioli ] Re: Eastern Rain [Laurie Antonioli ] UFG [Jeff Clark ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1749 [Catherine McKay ] UFG: Urge For Going ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Eastern Rain [Bob Muller ] UFG [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: UFG [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:39:56 -0500 From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1749 Urge For Going Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:13 PM, becky_alexander wrote: > > Could someone remind me what "UFG" stands for? > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy NoteB. 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > >
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> > JMDL Digest Saturday, February 14 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1749 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > RE: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday ["Susan E. McNama] > Re: Clouds [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > RE: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday [lesli shadowsand] > Re: That thread about the Jangly Rickenbacker njc ["Randy Remote" RE: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday ["Susan E. McNama] > New Library item: Kanye, Joni, Dylan and great musicians who say idiotic > things [TheStaff@JoniMitc] > kcrw interview [lesli shadowsandlight ] > RE: That thread about the Jangly Rickenbacker ["John E McGloin" Re: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday [Dave Blackburn <] > Re: Clouds [Jeff Clark ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:51:22 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: RE: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > I just listened to this wonderful interview! Here are my takeaways: > > She wants to remaster Song To A Seagull (maybe she should contact Dave > Blackburn!!!) > > Joni Mitchell is Not a fan of John Coltrane (wish she would have elaborated a > little more about that!) > > She knows of about 37 tributes that have happened around the world (mentioned > the one in Australia!) Plus she loved that Irish guy's take on Shadows and > Light (Glen Hansard of course!!) > > If you are going to perform her songs, you must leave in the SUS chords ... > that's where all the drama is!! > > All her loves were control freaks/narcissists except for John Guerin (he was a > philanderer!) ... plus she describes how even her father controlled her > mother! > > And last but not least: "I'm not going to make a dime off this box set!" :-) > > > Sue Tierney McNamara > Email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:06 PM > To: Joni List > Subject: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/morning-becomes-eclectic/joni-mitchell-2015-0 > 2-13 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:47:28 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: Clouds > > had 10 > songs on it and thus a complete album.> > > It ended up with 10 songs, but many of them were songs (like UFG) that she > had written years earlier and had been in her live shows. As you say, > Clouds IS a strong album with a great flow but if she had included UFG as > opposed to one of the songs she chose it would STILL flow beautifully. I'm > only bringing it up because UFG was a song she agonized over and worked on > for a while. > > > > You're probably aware that the first pressing (not released) of Blue did > have UFG and Hunter on it, and Little Green was omitted. Obviously this > changed with the formal release. > > Bob > > NP: Beck, "Don't Let It Go" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:38:29 -0800 > From: lesli shadowsandlight > Subject: RE: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > well, it was probably prerecorded, i can't imagine joni in the studio at 9 > am. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:44:11 -0800 > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Re: That thread about the Jangly Rickenbacker njc > > The first electric 12 strings were used for The Beatles' "A Hard > Day's Night" tracks. Roger McGuinn saw the movie and got one. > George Harrison used a Rick 360/12. Brian Jones and many other > guitarists followed suit. > RR > >> Hi >> Tony Hicks, the Hollies guitarist, has acknowledged Bob Dylan and the >> Byrds >> as influences. He was probably playing a Vox Phantom 12 string for that >> track. >> Cheers >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf >> Of >> Jim L'Hommedieu >> Sent: 13 February 2015 04:54 >> To: JMDL JMDL >> Subject: That thread about the Jangly Rickenbacker >> >> I was tuned to an oldies radio station this week when a jangly >> Rickenbacker >> line started up. >> >> "Byrds", I thought. >> >> But it was "Look Through Any Window" by The Hollies. It seemed >> interesting >> that there was cross-pollination between those two bands long before CSN >> started singing at Joni's house. Or was it Cass'es house? >> >> Only a music buff would consider this stuff. >> >> Jim > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:03:18 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: RE: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > You should be able to still listen to it at the website Lesli: > > http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/morning-becomes-eclectic/joni-mitchell-2015-0 > 2-13 > > > > Sue Tierney McNamara > Email: sem8@cornell.edu > > From: lesli shadowsandlight [mailto:cloudhidden101@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:59 PM > To: Susan E. McNamara > Cc: Les Irvin; Joni List > Subject: Re: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > i thought this was going to be aired at 11 pacific standard time. i've missed > 2 hours. grrr > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Susan E. McNamara > > wrote: > I just listened to this wonderful interview! Here are my takeaways: > > She wants to remaster Song To A Seagull (maybe she should contact Dave > Blackburn!!!) > > Joni Mitchell is Not a fan of John Coltrane (wish she would have elaborated a > little more about that!) > > She knows of about 37 tributes that have happened around the world (mentioned > the one in Australia!) Plus she loved that Irish guy's take on Shadows and > Light (Glen Hansard of course!!) > > If you are going to perform her songs, you must leave in the SUS chords ... > that's where all the drama is!! > > All her loves were control freaks/narcissists except for John Guerin (he was a > philanderer!) ... plus she describes how even her father controlled her > mother! > > And last but not least: "I'm not going to make a dime off this box set!" :-) > > > Sue Tierney McNamara > Email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les > Irvin > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:06 PM > To: Joni List > Subject: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/morning-becomes-eclectic/joni-mitchell-2015-0 > 2-13 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:47:58 -0700 (MST) > From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com > Subject: New Library item: Kanye, Joni, Dylan and great musicians who say > idiotic things > > Title: Kanye, Joni, Dylan and great musicians who say idiotic things > Publication: TheStar (Toronto) > Date: 2015.2.13 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2933 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:22:44 -0800 > From: lesli shadowsandlight > Subject: kcrw interview > > thanks. i found that. listening to the last hour now. liza also put up > an album on instagram too. it's just a few shots. gosh, she mentions > talking to hockney, he's another great one. > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Susan E. McNamara > wrote: > >> You should be able to still listen to it at the website Lesli: > http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/morning-becomes-eclectic/joni-mitchell-2015-0 > 2-13 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sue Tierney McNamara >> >> Email: sem8@cornell.edu >> >> >> >> *From:* lesli shadowsandlight [mailto:cloudhidden101@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:59 PM >> >> *Cc:* Les Irvin; Joni List >> *Subject:* Re: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday >> >> >> >> i thought this was going to be aired at 11 pacific standard time. >> i've missed 2 hours. grrr > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:29:41 -0000 > From: "John E McGloin" > Subject: RE: That thread about the Jangly Rickenbacker > > Hi > Tony Hicks, the Hollies guitarist, has acknowledged Bob Dylan and the Byrds > as influences. He was probably playing a Vox Phantom 12 string for that > track. > Cheers > John > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Jim L'Hommedieu > Sent: 13 February 2015 04:54 > To: JMDL JMDL > Subject: That thread about the Jangly Rickenbacker > > I was tuned to an oldies radio station this week when a jangly Rickenbacker > line started up. > > "Byrds", I thought. > > But it was "Look Through Any Window" by The Hollies. It seemed interesting > that there was cross-pollination between those two bands long before CSN > started singing at Joni's house. Or was it Cass'es house? > > Only a music buff would consider this stuff. > > Jim > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:05:49 -0800 > From: Dave Blackburn > Subject: Re: Joni interview on KCRW broadcast/streamed on Friday > > Man, Ibd love the opportunity. > > >> On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: >> >> I just listened to this wonderful interview! Here are my takeaways: >> >> She wants to remaster Song To A Seagull (maybe she should contact Dave > Blackburn!!!) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:14:57 +0000 (UTC) > From: Jeff Clark > Subject: Re: Clouds > > I didn't realize UFG was originally to be on Blue. I knew that Hunter was > replaced by This Flight Tonight. It must have been a hard decision to put > something as personal as Little Green on the album, but at the last minute > she > must have just said f it and let people think what they will. I love UFG, I > believe it was one of the very first songs she wrote, which is amazing. At > least there's a studio recorded version of it. I don't she made a studio > recording of Eastern Rain, did she? Another song just as striking. At least > there's that great Fairport cover of it.B JeffNP Dylan Tangled up in Blue > > On Friday, February 13, 2015 7:47 AM, "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > wrote: > > > 10 > songs on it and thus a complete album.> > > It ended up with 10 songs, but many of them were songs(like UFG) that she had > written years earlier and had been in her liveshows. As you say, Clouds IS a > strong album with a great flow but if shehad included UFG as opposed to one > of > the songs she chose it would STILLflow beautifully. I'm only bringing it up > because UFG was a song she agonizedover and worked on for a while. > > > > You're probably aware that the firstpressing (not released) of Blue did have > UFG and Hunter on it, and LittleGreen was omitted. Obviously this changed > with > the formal release. > > Bob > > NP: Beck, "Don't Let It Go" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material.B > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices.B > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company.B > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1749 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:49:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Eastern Rain Wow Laurie, I really enjoyed that, just listened to it 4 times. Beautiful song, beautiful rendition. Thanks, Jeff On Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:22 PM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: Bob, do you have a copy or way to get a copy of that version?B Some things are not on YouTube (hard to believe, I know!) Laurie On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Bob Muller wrote: Thanks for that Laurie, a great tune to wake up to. Joni recorded a demo of it in Chicago with the Siegel-Schwall band. Bob Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2015, at 3:38 AM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > > Hi Jeff and JMDL friends, > > I recorded and released Eastern Rain a few months ago.B My father is > Serbo/Croatian and in Montenegro where my family is from it rains almost > every day in the summer, much like Hawaii.B In the winter, it rains like > I've never seen.B When living abroad, I had a Serbian boyfriend...and...the > story in the song is not unlike the one I lived.B It is, as always in > Joni's music, like a movie, the visuals being so magically vivid. > > https://soundcloud.com/laurie-antonioli/04-final-eastern-rain/s-Tqd77 > > Hope that link comes through okay. > > Laurie Antonioli ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:17:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Joni tributes B <> Do these 37 tributes include the Ganja Line done in Ashara's living room in '01?Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:14:35 -0500 From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni synchronicity on the train That's awesome. Mitchell has certainly built a company here in cyberspace. Bob Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Anita Gabrielle wrote: > > I am on the two hour train journey from Brighton home to Bedford after a wonderful Valentines Day walking around, a little shopping and a lovely meal. Life feels SO sweet. > > Steph nods off and I decide to play Both Sides Now from the 2000 album on my iPad. The strings swell, my heart feels full and Joni sings "I really don't know love at all." Out of the darkness as the train races by, a floodlit yard of sand and cement emerges alongside the track. I just manage to catch a huge neon sign above the entrance to the yard which reads " Mitchell's Building Company." > > Ain't it just the truth? > Love to everyone this Valentines Day, > Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:38:45 -0800 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Eastern Rain Hi Jeff and JMDL friends, I recorded and released Eastern Rain a few months ago. My father is Serbo/Croatian and in Montenegro where my family is from it rains almost every day in the summer, much like Hawaii. In the winter, it rains like I've never seen. When living abroad, I had a Serbian boyfriend...and...the story in the song is not unlike the one I lived. It is, as always in Joni's music, like a movie, the visuals being so magically vivid. https://soundcloud.com/laurie-antonioli/04-final-eastern-rain/s-Tqd77 Hope that link comes through okay. Laurie Antonioli ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:22:08 -0800 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: Eastern Rain Bob, do you have a copy or way to get a copy of that version? Some things are not on YouTube (hard to believe, I know!) Laurie On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Thanks for that Laurie, a great tune to wake up to. Joni recorded a demo > of it in Chicago with the Siegel-Schwall band. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 14, 2015, at 3:38 AM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > > Hi Jeff and JMDL friends, > > > > I recorded and released Eastern Rain a few months ago. My father is > > Serbo/Croatian and in Montenegro where my family is from it rains almost > > every day in the summer, much like Hawaii. In the winter, it rains like > > I've never seen. When living abroad, I had a Serbian > boyfriend...and...the > > story in the song is not unlike the one I lived. It is, as always in > > Joni's music, like a movie, the visuals being so magically vivid. > > > > https://soundcloud.com/laurie-antonioli/04-final-eastern-rain/s-Tqd77 > > > > Hope that link comes through okay. > > > > Laurie Antonioli ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:57:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: UFG <> Don't you mean the IHAC? B :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1749 Welcome to the "I hate acronyms" club! Looks like a few people have already answered your question. I know I can type out an entire name in less time than it takes me to think of the first letters of all of its constituent parts. From: becky_alexander To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:13 PM Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1749 Could someone remind me what "UFG" stands for? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:32:16 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: UFG: Urge For Going "Urge For Going" is kinda obscure. It was one of the very earliest Joni song to be recorded by others, even before she had a recording contract of her own. The words are here: http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=71&from=search I think she released her own studio version as a "B" side of a 45, early on. She didn't put it on an album until "hits", but then she like it well enough to put it on the thematic "Songs Of a Prairie Girl" too. Trivia: Joni said, >when the leaves fell on the ground Bully winds came around Pushed them face down in the snow> I think the first song book and the copywrite for the lyric "guessed" that the words were "buoy winds came around" This is one of the first things we discussed on the JMDL, more than 10 years ago! Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:10:41 -0500 From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Eastern Rain Thanks for that Laurie, a great tune to wake up to. Joni recorded a demo of it in Chicago with the Siegel-Schwall band. Bob Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2015, at 3:38 AM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > > Hi Jeff and JMDL friends, > > I recorded and released Eastern Rain a few months ago. My father is > Serbo/Croatian and in Montenegro where my family is from it rains almost > every day in the summer, much like Hawaii. In the winter, it rains like > I've never seen. When living abroad, I had a Serbian boyfriend...and...the > story in the song is not unlike the one I lived. It is, as always in > Joni's music, like a movie, the visuals being so magically vivid. > > https://soundcloud.com/laurie-antonioli/04-final-eastern-rain/s-Tqd77 > > Hope that link comes through okay. > > Laurie Antonioli ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:44:45 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: UFG > Could someone remind me what "UFG" stands for? Un f*cking grateful ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:17:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: UFG When I first thought it up, it was going to be AHA: Acronym Haters Anonymous.B Appreciate the irony. Appreciate it! From: Jeff Clark To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: UFG <> Don't you mean the IHAC? B :) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #499 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe