From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #494 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, February 11 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 494 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Thoughts from a new member... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Thoughts from a new member... [Catherine McKay ] Re: Thoughts from a new member... [Michael Paz ] Meghan Daum [Lindsay Moon ] Re: Another article [Michael Paz ] Re: Regarding your application [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Meghan Daum [Catherine McKay ] RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: Meghan Daum ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Regarding your application [ingrid lochrenberg ] This makes perfect sense [ingrid lochrenberg ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:09:20 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Thoughts from a new member... Hi Floriofamily, and welcome to the JMDL. You make many interesting points in your post. While Joni purports to eschew the limelight, either her creative spirit or her ego cannot let it go. She's done composing and singing so she works on a ballet, or becomes a fashion model (didn't see THAT ONE coming). In any regard, it's pretty cool to see Joni everywhere these days. Just got the new Vanity Fair yesterday with the Laurel Canyon article and Joni pictures and comments splattered all about. Good luck with the hunt on commercial radio. It's very generic. In our day we had AM radio playing the Arriana's and Taylor's of the day and FM playing the album-oriented stuff. Now AM is talk (I suppose...I haven't heard AM radio in some time) and FM is the Clear Channel Pop drivel. I listen to Sirius XM mostly and just yesterday heard "Cactus Tree" and lots of other diverse sounds. While there will never be another Joni, there are great records and artists coming out all the time. It was very encouraging to see Beck's "Morning Phase" win Album of the Year as it is indeed a work of artistry and not a factory-manufactured hits package. Anyway, stick around and join the conversation. Glad you're here. Bob NP (Now Playing): The Band, "Chest Fever" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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You pass by shops and everyone's blasting them outB - either those same ten songs, or some vapid electronic dance music that sounds like the same two or three chords played over and over again against bass boost and synth beats. No idea what was in the water back then, and I hope it's not just because many of us are older and we're stuck back in the music of the 60s and 70s, but I don't think so. There were pop hits then and some of them were silly, others even stupid, but they didn't all sound exactly the same either. I was in a restaurant with my son a couple of weeks ago and noticed that all the songs they were playing had these, "Oh-oh-oh-oh" kind of choruses in them, that more or less followed the same notes. Different songs, different people singing, but all what those kinds of choruses. This music was a bit of fluff-pop C la Katy Perry and a bit of used-to-be-indie-but-made-it power pop kind of stuff. If I heard one or two songs like that, I might like it, but they ALL had that hook in them. There is some good new music out there, but it ain't on the radio! From: "floriofamily@optonline.net" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:57 PM Subject: Thoughts from a new member... HiB Im new to the group and was motivated to join after reading the New York Magazine piece.B To say Im a huge fan sounds a bit hysterical and juvenile perhaps (given that Im 55), but I was happy nonetheless to stumble upon Jonis website and this little portal where she seems to be universally admired.B I always wondered what happens to people like Joni.B How does someone with so much light (talent) turn on her dimmer switch and gracefully retire to the rear of lifes stage?B It saddens me to think of such a thing she seems such an incredible life force.B Its got to be like caging a hurricane. Anyway, I was driving home from my dads house today (who is sadly exiled in home hospice anxiously awaiting the day the master of the universe decides to turn off his power switch) and as Im cruising in my Moms old Chevy Malibu, Im flipping through radio stations trying to find something decent to listen to.B Alternately, one station was playing Bruno Mars new song, three other stations were playing three different but current Taylor Swift songs and another was playing Ariana Grandes most recent hit.B This same group of five songs played repeatedly on many different stations for the whole two-hour time I was in the car.B No other options on the radio other than NPR, which is tough for someone who loves music.B That aside, there was nothing remotely thought provoking about this music and it got me thinking about whether we will ever hear music of Jonis quality again?B The music on the radio today is so whitewashed;B I have to perhaps naively wonder, was it drugs that fueled the depth of creative thought back in the 60s/70s?B Or was the prudence of the 1950s simply a mental girdle that had to be busted out of, with great, thought-provoking and meaningful lyrics the natural by-product of this liberation? I dont have the answers but I do know that if I have to listen to Taylor Swift sing Shake it Off one more time, Im going to give up on that old Chevy Malibu radio. In closing, Im thankful to Joni and other artists like her, who have provided the soundtrack to some of the happiest memories and moments of my life.B She still has the magical ability to calm me when Im upset, liberate me when Im feeling carefree and focus me when Im trying to be creative.B In a word, gratitude, to Joni and for all here who stuck with me and read this to the end!B B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:25:30 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1725 I also want to welcome the new member. I agree strongly with both his and Catherine's response to the mind numbing redundancy we hear in today's pop feed. I teach voice and I hear young students contorting their voices to replicate the exact same nuance they hear with the one or two top female pop voices on the radio. It's the same weird sound and they are all trying to make it. I agree that regardless of the silliness of some of the pop hits of the 60ies & 70ies, there was at least variety. This is exactly why I took a departure from pop music and dove into jazz some 20 years ago and never looked back. It was a burning urge to revisit the music of my generation that brought me full circle back to Joni in a big way. What I was reminded of in this process was that the thread that continued from Joni's music from then until now not only evolves but carries the same truth of human experience that we all crave and deeply need as a species I think. As new member B B so eloquently put it. (Joni's music can) "calm me when I'm upset, liberate me when I'm feeling carefree and focus me when I'm trying to be creative. In a word, gratitude." I couldn't have said it better. Kimberly Ford - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:16 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1725 JMDL Digest Wednesday, February 11 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1725 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Thoughts from a new member... [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Thoughts from a new member... Welcome to the jmdl. I really enjoyed reading your piece. I never listen to the radio (and I don't have a car) so I'm often spared the usual top-ten play-'em-until-they're-engraved-into-everyone's-brains songs, but they are ubiquitous. You pass by shops and everyone's blasting them outB - either those same ten songs, or some vapid electronic dance music that sounds like the same two or three chords played over and over again against bass boost and synth beats. No idea what was in the water back then, and I hope it's not just because many of us are older and we're stuck back in the music of the 60s and 70s, but I don't think so. There were pop hits then and some of them were silly, others even stupid, but they didn't all sound exactly the same either. I was in a restaurant with my son a couple of weeks ago and noticed that all the songs they were playing had these, "Oh-oh-oh-oh" kind of choruses in them, that more or less followed the same notes. Different songs, different people singing, but all what those kinds of choruses. This music was a bit of fluff-pop C la Katy Perry and a bit of used-to-be-indie-but-made-it power pop kind of stuff. If I heard one or two songs like that, I might like it, but they ALL had that hook in them. There is some good new music out there, but it ain't on the radio! From: "floriofamily@optonline.net" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:57 PM Subject: Thoughts from a new member... HiB Im new to the group and was motivated to join after reading the New York Magazine piece.B To say Im a huge fan sounds a bit hysterical and juvenile perhaps (given that Im 55), but I was happy nonetheless to stumble upon Jonis website and this little portal where she seems to be universally admired.B I always wondered what happens to people like Joni.B How does someone with so much light (talent) turn on her dimmer switch and gracefully retire to the rear of lifes stage?B It saddens me to think of such a thing she seems such an incredible life force.B Its got to be like caging a hurricane. Anyway, I was driving home from my dads house today (who is sadly exiled in home hospice anxiously awaiting the day the master of the universe decides to turn off his power switch) and as Im cruising in my Moms old Chevy Malibu, Im flipping through radio stations trying to find something decent to listen to.B Alternately, one station was playing Bruno Mars new song, three other stations were playing three different but current Taylor Swift songs and another was playing Ariana Grandes most recent hit.B This same group of five songs played repeatedly on many different stations for the whole two-hour time I was in the car.B No other options on the radio other than NPR, which is tough for someone who loves music.B That aside, there was nothing remotely thought provoking about this music and it got me thinking about whether we will ever hear music of Jonis quality again?B The music on the radio today is so whitewashed;B I have to perhaps naively wonder, was it drugs that fueled the depth of creative thought back in the 60s/70s?B Or was the prudence of the 1950s simply a mental girdle that had to be busted out of, with great, thought-provoking and meaningful lyrics the natural by-product of this liberation? I dont have the answers but I do know that if I have to listen to Taylor Swift sing Shake it Off one more time, Im going to give up on that old Chevy Malibu radio. In closing, Im thankful to Joni and other artists like her, who have provided the soundtrack to some of the happiest memories and moments of my life.B She still has the magical ability to calm me when Im upset, liberate me when Im feeling carefree and focus me when Im trying to be creative.B In a word, gratitude, to Joni and for all here who stuck with me and read this to the end!B B - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1725 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:56:25 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Thoughts from a new member... Hello Florio Family and welcome to the JMDL. Sorry to hear about your dads condition but it sounds like he is ready for the next big adventure and you sound strong as well. Best of luck anyway! Get you an iPhone or similar contraption and you can tune into WWOZ which is station from New Orleans that plays tons of great music (mostly from New Orleans and La area but a huge variety). I live here so I am biased. You can also create your own radio stations online with Pandora and alot of these free online services that allow you to select an artist and then they feed you songs for other srtists that ("THEY think"-not even close sometimes especially in Joni's case) and it is a cool way to hear new music. Enjoy your stay here. Best Paz (in New Orleanss) NP-Someone Else's Tomorrow-Patty Griffin On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:57 PM, floriofamily@optonline.net wrote: Hi  Im new to the group and was motivated to join after reading the New York Magazine piece. To say Im a huge fan sounds a bit hysterical and juvenile perhaps (given that Im 55), but I was happy nonetheless to stumble upon Jonis website and this little portal where she seems to be universally admired. I always wondered what happens to people like Joni. How does someone with so much light (talent) turn on her dimmer switch and gracefully retire to the rear of lifes stage? It saddens me to think of such a thing  she seems such an incredible life force. Its got to be like caging a hurricane. Anyway, I was driving home from my dads house today (who is sadly exiled in home hospice anxiously awaiting the day the master of the universe decides to turn off his power switch) and as Im cruising in my Moms old Chevy Malibu, Im flipping through radio stations trying to find something decent to listen to. Alternately, one station was playing Bruno Mars new song, three other stations were playing three different but current Taylor Swift songs and another was playing Ariana Grandes most recent hit. This same group of five songs played repeatedly on many different stations for the whole two-hour time I was in the car. No other options on the radio other than NPR, which is tough for someone who loves music. That aside, there was nothing remotely thought provoking about this music and it got me thinking about whether we will ever hear music of Jonis quality again? The music on the radio today is so whitewashed; I have to perhaps naively wonder, was it drugs that fueled the depth of creative thought back in the 60s/70s? Or was the prudence of the 1950s simply a mental girdle that had to be busted out of, with great, thought-provoking and meaningful lyrics the natural by-product of this liberation? I dont have the answers but I do know that if I have to listen to Taylor Swift sing Shake it Off one more time, Im going to give up on that old Chevy Malibu radio. In closing, Im thankful to Joni and other artists like her, who have provided the soundtrack to some of the happiest memories and moments of my life. She still has the magical ability to calm me when Im upset, liberate me when Im feeling carefree and focus me when Im trying to be creative. In a word, gratitude, to Joni and for all here who stuck with me and read this to the end! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:20:42 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Meghan Daum Sue, I did get that book. It's a collection of short pieces/essays (oddly similar to the writing style of Ann Patchett, who was recommended by David Sedaris when we saw him). Daum writes of going to LA and happening upon the Green Flag Song exhibit. She (like Brian and I when we went there) met the owner, (do I recall correctly his name as Lev?), he was very forthcoming with information, and when Daum said she was a reporter, he offered to ask Joni if he could ask Daum to their dinner that night. The dinner happened, Joni (unfortunately) came off as a kook with her ideas about the environment, but she gave the author her phone number to discuss more Daum is a serious fan, though, and is annoyed as well that people misinterpret many things she's written or says. (And only I/we would notice the slight mistakes  "Marcie in a coat of flowers *steps* inside a candy store," it's "stops." Any fathead could write "steps," Joni wrote "stops." Completely different animal and another notch on her liberation doll genius. (Hahaha) And "The Wolf That Lives in *Lindsay*" is "Lindsey.") Daum tried several times to reach Joni but never got an answer (Joni having no technology later than 1947 in her home  hahaha). And then the writer lost her phone number. I'd kill myself. Lindsay ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:09:29 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Another article Amazing! What fun! Who is this Jedi Master?? On Feb 10, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/lryjzbl Smoe breaks up those long URL's. Bob NP: Joe Jackson, "You Can't Get What You Want (Til You Know What You Want) From: c Karma To: "joni@smoe.org" , Date: 02/09/2015 08:16 PM Subject: RE: Another article Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org The New York Magazine is a good piece, but this one had me in stitches.http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/joni-mitchell-applies-for-a-tenur e-track-philosophy-position Jedidiah Anderson? CC > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 03:00:03 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1708 > > > JMDL Digest Monday, February 9 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1708 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 20:14:39 -0700 (MST) > From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com > Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding > > Title: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding > Publication: New York Magazine > Date: 2015.2.9 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2928 > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1708 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:45:52 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Regarding your application Ingrid, you sound sparky today! Anita > On 10 Feb 2015, at 20:50, ingrid lochrenberg wrote: > > Dear Joni Mitchell > > You have been successful in your application for the philosophy > professor-ship. We have followed your work, not only on clouds and > urbanisation and travel , but also on electricity. > > We feel you are terribly suggestive talking about a Minus, getting your he's > and your she's mixed up, and alluding to the MINUS having the breakdown of the > century as a result of getting confused about the system of electricity. We > surmise that in trying to figure out her own system of electricity, she was > going beyond the strict categories of male and female, input and output. Yes > we know that some Greek god imagined out loud whether ecstasy was more > achievable as a male or female... but that was eight thousand years ago or so, > and in that time civilization has not advanced at all.... as you know we > haven't even figured out that men are generally far more bitchy than women.... > > Well you also say that this minus has her own fuses and splices, which is > evocative, but then you dare to say that"were once loved together and we > floodlit that time"... even that the lines overloaded and the sparks started > flying. > > We feel you have explored too many topics and that you are too opinionated. We > think that this is why you are attracting such vitriol and antagonism. We are > in a position of being at a loss to explain it. Could it be that being born > with gifts is a curse. We have a schizophrenic among us who gets desperately > confused but somehow she thinks she understands you and she keeps speaking for > you. We are sure that even you see the absurdity in this. > > We would like you to take up this post because we need to make our own study > into why your being opinionated is so offensive in this modern enlightened age > that can reward entrepreneurs with one single idea so handsomely. > > The women among us gracefully come to the rescue of the all the shattered > egos...... The drummers, the dreamers.... Even the schizophrenic has said she > wants to now acquire grace . > > We want you here because if we can figure out why you elicit such antagonism > we feel that we will have found something to soothe the male psyches and maybe > we can figure out what the women know because they won't tell us. > > We have a crazy scene here, and you can make a lot of money. > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 03:57:02 +0000 (GMT) From: floriofamily@optonline.net Subject: Thoughts from a new member... Hi  Im new to the group and was motivated to join after reading the New York Magazine piece. To say Im a huge fan sounds a bit hysterical and juvenile perhaps (given that Im 55), but I was happy nonetheless to stumble upon Jonis website and this little portal where she seems to be universally admired. I always wondered what happens to people like Joni. How does someone with so much light (talent) turn on her dimmer switch and gracefully retire to the rear of lifes stage? It saddens me to think of such a thing  she seems such an incredible life force. Its got to be like caging a hurricane. Anyway, I was driving home from my dads house today (who is sadly exiled in home hospice anxiously awaiting the day the master of the universe decides to turn off his power switch) and as Im cruising in my Moms old Chevy Malibu, Im flipping through radio stations trying to find something decent to listen to. Alternately, one station was playing Bruno Mars new song, three other stations were playing three different but current Taylor Swift songs and another was playing Ariana Grandes most recent hit. This same group of five songs played repeatedly on many different stations for the whole two-hour time I was in the car. No other options on the radio other than NPR, which is tough for someone who loves music. That aside, there was nothing remotely thought provoking about this music and it got me thinking about whether we will ever hear music of Jonis quality again? The music on the radio today is so whitewashed; I have to perhaps naively wonder, was it drugs that fueled the depth of creative thought back in the 60s/70s? Or was the prudence of the 1950s simply a mental girdle that had to be busted out of, with great, thought-provoking and meaningful lyrics the natural by-product of this liberation? I dont have the answers but I do know that if I have to listen to Taylor Swift sing Shake it Off one more time, Im going to give up on that old Chevy Malibu radio. In closing, Im thankful to Joni and other artists like her, who have provided the soundtrack to some of the happiest memories and moments of my life. She still has the magical ability to calm me when Im upset, liberate me when Im feeling carefree and focus me when Im trying to be creative. In a word, gratitude, to Joni and for all here who stuck with me and read this to the end! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:53:40 -0600 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Hi > 10:42 PM, wrote: > > "Hi I m new to the group and was motivated to join after reading the New > York > Magazine piece. To say I m a huge fan sounds a bit hysterical and juvenile > perhaps (given that I m 55), but I was happy nonetheless to stumble upon > Joni s website and this little portal where she seems to be universally > admired. I always wondered what happens to people like Joni...." Hi Hi, Welcome! Please tell us more about yourself. When did you first get into Joni's music? Today's music is fun. I like most of it with the surfer rap to the buzzing harmonies. There aren't many radical thoughts conveyed in much of it. Kind of reminds me of the early vs. the later Beatles. No statements; just a lot of relationship stuff. I see Joni as a timeless soul. She woke up early in life. She will one day be gone but her mark on this world is undeniable. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Meghan Daum All righty then. Who's in charge of the "Joni in literature" section these days? They better get right on that! (Why do I have this weird feeling it's you, Lindsay-not-Lindsey?) I just remember it used to be Smurf, but my brain is stuck in 1990-something. At least it's not 1947! sometimes I wonder if Joni really does lack all that technology or if she's secretly googling all over the place. On the other hand, I wouldn't blame her for eschewing technology, since it does seem to suck up a lot of time that could be better spent being creative or some darn thing. From: Lindsay Moon To: Joni List Cc: sue tierney Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: Meghan Daum Sue, I did get that book.B It's a collection of short pieces/essays (oddly similar to the writing style of Ann Patchett, who was recommended by David Sedaris when we saw him).B Daum writes of going to LA and happening upon the Green Flag Song exhibit.B She (like Brian and I when we went there) met the owner, (do I recall correctly his name as Lev?), he was very forthcoming with information, and when Daum said she was a reporter, he offered to ask Joni if he could ask Daum to their dinner that night.B The dinner happened, Joni (unfortunately) came off as a kook with her ideas about the environment, but she gave the author her phone number to discuss moreB Daum is a serious fan, though, and is annoyed as well that people misinterpret many things she's written or says.B (And only I/we would notice the slight mistakesB "Marcie in a coat of flowers *steps* inside a candy store," it's "stops."B Any fathead could write "steps," Joni wrote "stops."B Completely different animal and another notch on her liberation doll genius.B (Hahaha) And "The Wolf That Lives in *Lindsay*" is "Lindsey.") Daum tried several times to reach Joni but never got an answer (Joni having no technology later than 1947 in her homeB hahaha).B And then the writer lost her phone number. I'd kill myself. Lindsay ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:17:29 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding You get the gold star, Bobby!! Sue Tierney McNamara Email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:07 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding Well, I can assure you that my Covers section is up-to-the-minute! :-) Bob NP: Stevie Ray Vaughan, "Cold Shot" From: Catherine McKay To: "Susan E. McNamara" , Anita Gabrielle , "" , Date: 02/10/2015 01:00 PM Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org I didn't even notice that because I actually didn't even read the whole article. I have a very short attention span these days. But I've just gone ahead and submitted a comment. I don't know who Meghan Daum is, but betcha $10 she's a friend of the guy what wrote the article. Meow, meow, meow! From: Susan E. McNamara To: Catherine McKay ; Anita Gabrielle ; "" Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: RE: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Unyielding The author complained that Meghan Daum's citing of Joni Mitchell in her book The Unspeakable was missing from the JM.com library.B He called the website hers (meaning Joni's), which it is, but is run by dedicated fans who don't get paid.B Hit us with 50 lashes with a wet noodle, dude.B Sue Tierney McNamara Email: sem8@cornell.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:12:03 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Been readin' the news I just love the pics in the magazine. Especially the first one. WOW! Native American goddess for sure. On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: And it sure looks bad. In an interview in New York Magazine, (published yesterday?) The interviewer said in part, > She mentions the guy her record company sent not long ago b bthe burglar,b she calls him b to root around her storage unit to cobble together a boxed set she calls a bturd,b which she eventually got killed.> Here's the article, but be warned that she thinks she's been under attack for 40 years. These would be the same 40 years during which she left SK, saw the world, and inspired two generations of songwriters... http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/02/joni-mitchell-fashion-muse.html Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:51:20 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Meghan Daum Thanks Lindsay ... I will look out for this book, she is well regarded from some stuff I've read about her online. I love what you say here about the way Joni chooses words. Marcie is a miracle ... just the right amount of words! :-) Sue Tierney McNamara Email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Lindsay Moon [mailto:moonlj@san.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:21 PM To: Joni List Cc: Susan E. McNamara Subject: Meghan Daum Sue, I did get that book. It's a collection of short pieces/essays (oddly similar to the writing style of Ann Patchett, who was recommended by David Sedaris when we saw him). Daum writes of going to LA and happening upon the Green Flag Song exhibit. She (like Brian and I when we went there) met the owner, (do I recall correctly his name as Lev?), he was very forthcoming with information, and when Daum said she was a reporter, he offered to ask Joni if he could ask Daum to their dinner that night. The dinner happened, Joni (unfortunately) came off as a kook with her ideas about the environment, but she gave the author her phone number to discuss more... Daum is a serious fan, though, and is annoyed as well that people misinterpret many things she's written or says. (And only I/we would notice the slight mistakes ... "Marcie in a coat of flowers *steps* inside a candy store," it's "stops." Any fathead could write "steps," Joni wrote "stops." Completely different animal and another notch on her liberation doll genius. (Hahaha) And "The Wolf That Lives in *Lindsay*" is "Lindsey.") Daum tried several times to reach Joni but never got an answer (Joni having no technology later than 1947 in her home ... hahaha). And then the writer lost her phone number. I'd kill myself. Lindsay ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:50:03 +0200 From: ingrid lochrenberg Subject: Regarding your application Dear Joni Mitchell You have been successful in your application for the philosophy professor-ship. We have followed your work, not only on clouds and urbanisation and travel , but also on electricity. We feel you are terribly suggestive talking about a Minus, getting your he's and your she's mixed up, and alluding to the MINUS having the breakdown of the century as a result of getting confused about the system of electricity. We surmise that in trying to figure out her own system of electricity, she was going beyond the strict categories of male and female, input and output. Yes we know that some Greek god imagined out loud whether ecstasy was more achievable as a male or female... but that was eight thousand years ago or so, and in that time civilization has not advanced at all.... as you know we haven't even figured out that men are generally far more bitchy than women.... Well you also say that this minus has her own fuses and splices, which is evocative, but then you dare to say that"were once loved together and we floodlit that time"... even that the lines overloaded and the sparks started flying. We feel you have explored too many topics and that you are too opinionated. We think that this is why you are attracting such vitriol and antagonism. We are in a position of being at a loss to explain it. Could it be that being born with gifts is a curse. We have a schizophrenic among us who gets desperately confused but somehow she thinks she understands you and she keeps speaking for you. We are sure that even you see the absurdity in this. We would like you to take up this post because we need to make our own study into why your being opinionated is so offensive in this modern enlightened age that can reward entrepreneurs with one single idea so handsomely. The women among us gracefully come to the rescue of the all the shattered egos...... The drummers, the dreamers.... Even the schizophrenic has said she wants to now acquire grace . We want you here because if we can figure out why you elicit such antagonism we feel that we will have found something to soothe the male psyches and maybe we can figure out what the women know because they won't tell us. We have a crazy scene here, and you can make a lot of money. Sent from my Windows Phone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:30:40 +0200 From: ingrid lochrenberg Subject: This makes perfect sense ... What you say about the Grammys. I am waiting for my Songs of Shadows, Songs of Light album to arrive . Sent from my Windows Phone ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #494 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe