From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #421 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, December 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 421 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- New Library item: AROUND THE WORLD, ONE PARTY AT A TIME [TheStaff@JoniMit] Re: New Library item: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced [] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 ["kimberly" ] Said or sad? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:56:16 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: AROUND THE WORLD, ONE PARTY AT A TIME Title: AROUND THE WORLD, ONE PARTY AT A TIME Publication: VANITY FAIR (Magazine) Date: 2015.01.0 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2887 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:32:37 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: New Library item: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced This review was great. I found myself shaking my head a lot. Bob NP: Turner Brothers, "Please The People" From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/10/2014 06:42 PM Subject: New Library item: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Title: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced Publication: TheVinylDistrict.com Date: 2014.12.9 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2884 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:43:30 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 https://courtandsparksymposium.wordpress.com/ Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kimberly Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:39 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 Our concert last Sunday night in Santa Barbara was sold out, a good reminder of how hungry people are for Joni's music especially since the release of Love Has Many Faces. The confirmation to continue on this path was a great gift for our group. There will be songs to hear and view from this concert soon. We're still in the studio editing what we got Sunday. Could someone please remind me of the thread for the call for "White Papers," on Joni's work in the UK? Turns out I'm headed that way in the spring and would love to know more about this conference. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 JMDL Digest Thursday, December 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1578 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- My favorite changes, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Songs to Aging Children Come [Anita Gabrielle ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 23:18:05 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: My favorite changes, njc Steve Stills wrote a pretty damn good song called "My Favorite Changes". That has nothing to do with this post except that it makes a catchy subject line. This week I heard James Gang song, and another song kept running through my mind. I think Kenny Loggins lifted the guitar part on "Footloose". Check it out. Imagine playing the melody on a fuzzy guitar to these words: Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees Jack, get back, come on before we crack That's "Funk #49"! Jim cc: Em and Kakki 'cause I know ya'll can relate. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:32:07 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Songs to Aging Children Come Sue, I always thought it was "said". Hearing it as "sad" in listening is an interesting idea. There can be much sadness in listening, Anita > On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I am almost ready to post my instructional video of STACC to JM.com, and a lyric debate came to mind: is it So much said in listening or So much sad in listening? I guess I know that the correct answer is the former, but I cling to sad for no apparent reason other than it works for me. Discuss. > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:29:36 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rests between tracks And then there's all those Stevie Wonder & Todd Rundgren albums that have NO rests between songs. Bob NP: Nick Lowe, "Music For Money" From: Laurie Antonioli To: Dave Blackburn , Cc: Chris Coccaro , JMDL JMDL Date: 12/09/2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Rests between tracks Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Yes, Dave. I was working with Mark Wilder, he is one of THE top mastering guys in the business (he re-mastered the "Kind of Blue" record by Miles Davis, for instance.) He encouraged me a couple of times, when I wanted to wait one second longer, to go ahead and start a bit sooner just for that reason. We spoke about the "4 second" pause. People now will just hit "next" if that much time passes. Sad, really. Laurie On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Laurie, and I might add that attention spans being what they are > these days, people are putting far less space between songs than they used > to. 4 seconds, which was once commonplace, feels like an eternity now! > > Dave > > > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > > are always calculated - it's part of mastering and programming. Most > don't > > listen like they "used to" - but - for instance, I spent a long time in > the > > mastering studio on "Songs of Shadow" with the engineer breathing between > > songs. Listening to the exact nano-second when the next tune should > > start. People listen on "shuffle" now or just buy one song off the > record > > on iTunes, but, those of us who still make "records" spend an inordinate > > amount of time doing this. No doubt Joni did, too. The whole point of > her > > latest release is to listen straight through and those rests add to the > > drama and how each next song is presented. > > > > Laurie - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:51:51 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Hmmm...now what makes it a Christmas song exactly? Because it's on the same album as "River"? Because Elvis had a hit with "Blue Christmas"? If "Blue" is a Christmas song then EVERY song is a Christmas song. Or did you mean to say "River"? Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Repectable" From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/10/2014 08:28 AM Subject: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Don't know if everyone saw this but, this morning, I noticed Joni's "Blue" was included in Huff Post's list of "20 Saddest Christmas Songs." I love the song but have to agree it fits the criteria. Kenny B - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. 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Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:39:22 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 Our concert last Sunday night in Santa Barbara was sold out, a good reminder of how hungry people are for Joni's music especially since the release of Love Has Many Faces. The confirmation to continue on this path was a great gift for our group. There will be songs to hear and view from this concert soon. We're still in the studio editing what we got Sunday. Could someone please remind me of the thread for the call for "White Papers," on Joni's work in the UK? Turns out I'm headed that way in the spring and would love to know more about this conference. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 JMDL Digest Thursday, December 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1578 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- My favorite changes, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Songs to Aging Children Come [Anita Gabrielle ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 23:18:05 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: My favorite changes, njc Steve Stills wrote a pretty damn good song called "My Favorite Changes". That has nothing to do with this post except that it makes a catchy subject line. This week I heard James Gang song, and another song kept running through my mind. I think Kenny Loggins lifted the guitar part on "Footloose". Check it out. Imagine playing the melody on a fuzzy guitar to these words: Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees Jack, get back, come on before we crack That's "Funk #49"! Jim cc: Em and Kakki 'cause I know ya'll can relate. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:32:07 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Songs to Aging Children Come Sue, I always thought it was "said". Hearing it as "sad" in listening is an interesting idea. There can be much sadness in listening, Anita > On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I am almost ready to post my instructional video of STACC to JM.com, and a lyric debate came to mind: is it So much said in listening or So much sad in listening? I guess I know that the correct answer is the former, but I cling to sad for no apparent reason other than it works for me. Discuss. > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:29:36 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rests between tracks And then there's all those Stevie Wonder & Todd Rundgren albums that have NO rests between songs. Bob NP: Nick Lowe, "Music For Money" From: Laurie Antonioli To: Dave Blackburn , Cc: Chris Coccaro , JMDL JMDL Date: 12/09/2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Rests between tracks Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Yes, Dave. I was working with Mark Wilder, he is one of THE top mastering guys in the business (he re-mastered the "Kind of Blue" record by Miles Davis, for instance.) He encouraged me a couple of times, when I wanted to wait one second longer, to go ahead and start a bit sooner just for that reason. We spoke about the "4 second" pause. People now will just hit "next" if that much time passes. Sad, really. Laurie On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Laurie, and I might add that attention spans being what they are > these days, people are putting far less space between songs than they used > to. 4 seconds, which was once commonplace, feels like an eternity now! > > Dave > > > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > > are always calculated - it's part of mastering and programming. Most > don't > > listen like they "used to" - but - for instance, I spent a long time in > the > > mastering studio on "Songs of Shadow" with the engineer breathing between > > songs. Listening to the exact nano-second when the next tune should > > start. People listen on "shuffle" now or just buy one song off the > record > > on iTunes, but, those of us who still make "records" spend an inordinate > > amount of time doing this. No doubt Joni did, too. The whole point of > her > > latest release is to listen straight through and those rests add to the > > drama and how each next song is presented. > > > > Laurie - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:51:51 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Hmmm...now what makes it a Christmas song exactly? Because it's on the same album as "River"? Because Elvis had a hit with "Blue Christmas"? If "Blue" is a Christmas song then EVERY song is a Christmas song. Or did you mean to say "River"? Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Repectable" From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/10/2014 08:28 AM Subject: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Don't know if everyone saw this but, this morning, I noticed Joni's "Blue" was included in Huff Post's list of "20 Saddest Christmas Songs." I love the song but have to agree it fits the criteria. Kenny B - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:05:02 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: LHMF package review http://rockarteditions.com/new-joni-mitchell-box-set/ "New Joni Mitchell box set, Love Has Many Faces: peerless music, disappointing package" moni k. - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:11:44 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Said or sad? Sue, I think she said, "said". First, at the time, she had only been off the prairie a short time, eh? The prairie pronunciation of "about" is very different from the one heard in Ithaca too. They do funny things with vowels up there. I think the A sound in said comes out sounding like "egg" to my Ohioan ears. Secondly, I think that "sad" is overtly poetic, which would be a little unusual for Joni. (Although she was flowery in the early days, so who knows?) Lastly, Said/listening makes an interesting dichotomy and you know how she ***lives*** in duality. Interesting question though. Sometimes I like to ponder this stuff. For a long time, I thought she was deliberately ambiguous. Now, I'm uncertain of the ambiguity. (!) There are scores of things like that in her songs, unlike Steve Miller. You know: > dance, dance, dance > let's make some ro- > nance Nothing unclear there. I hope Malka has a comment. Jim ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #421 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe