From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #411 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, December 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 411 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- River [Paul ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1561 ["kimberly" ] Shadows and Light [Jeff Clark ] Re: Mingus, LHMF, etc [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Parting with Joni Treasures/Memorabilia [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Re: Cary Raditz - Matalz, Crete - LIFE Magazine [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Mingus, LHMF, etc [Moni Kellermann ] Mingus, LHMF, etc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Mingus, LHMF, etc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: allmusic review of LHMF [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:15:09 -0500 From: Paul Subject: River Bob, Make sure to throw away any covers of River in which it sounds like the singer might be smiling. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:21:22 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1561 I'm throwing one more "River" into the stream having just recorded it last night for my EP, A Celebration of Joni Mitchell. I'm two days away from my Sun. Dec. 7th 7:00PM concert of all Joni compositions at Soho in Santa Barbara. If you're nearby I hope anyone and everyone can make it. Going deeply with this music has been a fantastic journey and I feel like I've just begun, though Blue was my first album growing up. Question: Does anyone know what Joni's guitar rig was for "Black Crow?" We can't seem to come up with a guitar that can hold onto the low Bb without going all flappy and out of tune. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1561 JMDL Digest Friday, December 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1561 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- RE: Kurt Elling recorded "River" ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Kurt Elling recorded "River" [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Kurt Elling recorded "River" ["Mark" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 22:57:32 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Kurt Elling recorded "River" Kurt Elling was great at Joni's Jazz in LA, 2010 right? As I recall he did Edith and the Kingpin. That was a great show (with some great friends in attendance!). Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 5:22 PM To: Laurie Antonioli Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: Kurt Elling recorded "River" Indeed - Elling is one of Kakki's favorites. This was on Hobgood's 2013 release and is coming up on Volume #205. That's how far behind I am with these things, just getting LAST YEAR'S River's out there NOW. Plus there was truly a glut of them last year, this year has not been as many. Just stumbled on one this afternoon from Canadian vocalist Maureen Washington. Bob NP: Stevie Wonder, "Same Old Story" (Been playing Stevie all day today due to Victor's Facebook posts...what a career he has had. I have gone all the way back to the "Little Stevie Wonder" stuff, through those incredible 70's releases and his latest work as well, and barely scanned the surface of his 50+ years of recording. A Wonder to be sure) From: Laurie Antonioli To: JMDL , "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" , Date: 12/04/2014 05:09 PM Subject: Kurt Elling recorded "River" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org with his former musical director, Laurence Hobgood, on Laurence's new recording "Christmas." Just listened - it's really nice. Just one more jazz singer digging Joni! : ) Laurie - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:22:13 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Kurt Elling recorded "River" Indeed - Elling is one of Kakki's favorites. This was on Hobgood's 2013 release and is coming up on Volume #205. That's how far behind I am with these things, just getting LAST YEAR'S River's out there NOW. Plus there was truly a glut of them last year, this year has not been as many. Just stumbled on one this afternoon from Canadian vocalist Maureen Washington. Bob NP: Stevie Wonder, "Same Old Story" (Been playing Stevie all day today due to Victor's Facebook posts...what a career he has had. I have gone all the way back to the "Little Stevie Wonder" stuff, through those incredible 70's releases and his latest work as well, and barely scanned the surface of his 50+ years of recording. A Wonder to be sure) From: Laurie Antonioli To: JMDL , "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" , Date: 12/04/2014 05:09 PM Subject: Kurt Elling recorded "River" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org with his former musical director, Laurence Hobgood, on Laurence's new recording "Christmas." Just listened - it's really nice. Just one more jazz singer digging Joni! : ) Laurie - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 21:39:21 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Kurt Elling recorded "River" I was in Starbucks earlier this week and noticed that Idina Menzel of 'Wicked' fame has a Christmas CD out with 'River' on it. But then I'm sure Bob already knows that! Bob, are you familiar with the a cappella group 'Pentatonix'? Travis bought their Christmas CD. It's pretty good although I wish they would not have relied on the drum machines so much. Anyway, they do a cover of Fleet Foxes 'White Winter Hymnal' on it. Don't know how Christmasy that is but it actually sounds pretty nice. Mark in Seattle - - -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Antonioli Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 2:08 PM To: JMDL ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Kurt Elling recorded "River" with his former musical director, Laurence Hobgood, on Laurence's new recording "Christmas." Just listened - it's really nice. Just one more jazz singer digging Joni! : ) Laurie - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1561 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of KF Eblast REV.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 23:05:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Shadows and Light All the talk about what critics think reminds me of Joni's great lines from S&L;"critics of all expression, judges in black and white, saying its wrong, saying its right" Its been so long a critic (or anyone elses) opinion had much influence on my take, but it used to. I used to always refer to the Rolling Stone Record Guide or some other guide for advice on what was good, great or sucked. I remember my neice asking about the point of critics when she was young and I offered that if you know the critic and are familiar with their body of work it could be helpful and insightful, but if you don't know them, why would their opinion matter?I always liked particularly Stephen Holden's writing. He did very good reviews of albums Hissing and Shadows and Light and generally I enjoy reading anything he writes (he covers movies alot too). But he wasn't very nice about Shine. He gave a real short, terse review "Cranky Canadian Genius Hates Cellphones, Loves Tar & Nicotine" I'm still holding a grudge against him about that!JeffNP: Judy Collins, Someday Soon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:09:27 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Mingus, LHMF, etc Sue, the baritone I mentioned was this one: http://alvarezguitars.com/guitar/abt60/ Bear in mind a pickup and case are extra, but it fits in any jumbo case. It comes setup for B to B tuning but you can custom gauge the strings to get Joni tunings, such as the CGDEGC one I leave mine in. D > On Dec 3, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I'm not great with remembering session people, thanks!! Right now, I feel my guitar playing is improving to the point that I want to upgrade my "guitar arsenal!" My interest was piqued, Dave, when you mentioned the Albanez baritone guitar (did I get that right?). On my wish list is a performance grade Martin or Taylor acoustic of excellent caliber (meaning pricey), and an electric guitar (which I could probably get on craigslist). These thoughts are competing with my need to also do some needed home maintenance (oh so boring). That said, to perform Sweet Sucker Dance, I would probably get my brother Jim (great jazz guitarist) to read your charts, and I would do my best to sing/garble Sweet Sucker Dance ... I really really hope we can hear you and Robin recreate some Mingus magic at Bobfest. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:22:50 -0800 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Parting with Joni Treasures/Memorabilia David, I think this is the perfect place to post it so those who are interested can have first dibs. I recently parted with some treasured non-Joni items on eBay but looked at it this way - one can always reacquire them in the future. I think there is also a Facebook page to sell Joni items, too. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:58:47 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Cary Raditz - Matalz, Crete - LIFE Magazine Am 02.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb simon@icu.com: > I remember Joni mentioning a cover story in LIFE Magazine > that inspired her initial interest Matala. > > This past weekend, I finally took the time to scan the LIFE article. The whole issue is online: http://books.google.com/books?id=QT8EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&hl=en&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false To get the pages, maximize the page view and grab the files from your browser's cache. moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:32:04 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Mingus, LHMF, etc Itbs Peter Erskine on drums throughout Mingus, Sue. The Tony Williams takes are still in the vault somewhere. Sweet Sucker Dance was quite an involved transcription, as the form is so long and some of the harmony so dense. If you know your jazz guitar chords check out my chart on the websitebs transcription page. It was also a hard melody to nail for Robin on our last show, due to the big intervallic leaps, wide pitch range and angular scales. Dave > On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I am loving the new box set ... Act IV was amazing. I was completely struck > by Sweet Sucker Dance. What an amazing, moving song. It reminded me that, > unlike a lot of others, I loved the album Mingus as soon as I heard it. Every > song thrilled me, and I remember hawking it to anyone who would listen to me > at the time. I was no stranger to jazz at the ripe age of 21 when Mingus came > out. I have my brother to thank because, as a gifted trumpet player in high > school, he introduced me to Louis Armstrong, Dizzy Gillespie, and Bix > Beiderbecke. We actually called Jimmy Bix during that time because he was > always playing his trumpet. We also listened to a lot of fusion including > Return to Forever, so Mingus and the band Joni played with were not unfamiliar > to me. After listening to Sweet Sucker Dance again in this format, I am once > again awed by Joni's depth, the lyrics, the arrangement, everything, the > drummer was even freaking me out ... I guess it was Tony Williams on that cut. > Wow. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:35:56 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Mingus, LHMF, etc Am 03.12.2014 um 18:10 schrieb Susan E. McNamara: > I guess it was Tony Williams on that cut. The drummer on "Mingus" is Peter Erskine. http://jonimitchell.com/music/album.cfm?id=12 http://www.discogs.com/artist/257421-Peter-Erskine moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 03:49:56 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Mingus, LHMF, etc Hi Susan, Glad to be of help. I've heard of Ithaca Guitar Works. They don't have as much vintage anymore. Without spending a fortune, the best way to get a monster guitar from my experience is to befriend the salesman who'll let you have the cream of the crop that he often reserves for his special musician friends. Believe it or not, my fave guitar for Black Crow is a solid body Telecaster. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 21:37:28 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Mingus, LHMF, etc Yeah baritone would work. If you get a regular acoustic make sure you try it before buying with a low tuning (e g Black Crow) to make sure it does not buzz with less tension on the strings. Electrics too but to a lesser extent as it's easier to adjust Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 13:09:21 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: allmusic review of LHMF I suppose by stripped down I mean that Joni's instrument, whether it be piano, guitar, or dulcimer is typically the highlighted sonic feature in those earlier albums. She had other players but not a sense of "band" that she took on later. I never said those albums aren't fully realized, nor would I - ever. They're brilliant and deserve all the attention they have garnered over the years. Ballets are usually accompanied by orchestras as opposed to soloists, that's all I was saying. By the same token, I sense that Joni feels (well, she has said as much) that her later catalog has not been given its due as has her earlier work and embraces the opportunity to re-present it. As for poor old Dancing Clown, I'm just having fun. I get to do that, right? Right. Truth be told, when I transferred CMIARS to cassette, so I could play it in the car and in my walkman, I had to delete a song so it would fit on one side of a 90-minute tape. DC was NOT the song I excepted. Ooh, the plot thickens! Bob NP: Into It, Over It, "A Pair of Matching Taxi Rides" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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