From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #409 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 4 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 409 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Liner notes... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1546 Liner Notes. [Mary ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1546 Liner Notes. [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] re: Liner notes [c Karma ] RE: Mingus, LHMF, etc ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1531 [Mary ] Liner notes... [Les Irvin ] Mingus, LHMF, etc ["Laurent Olszer" ] RE: Mingus, LHMF, etc ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Joni Hope [Mary ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:46:41 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Liner notes... Thanks Les! Now I REALLY don't need it. Heh heh heh... Bob NP: Conference Call From: Les Irvin To: Joni List , Date: 12/03/2014 11:44 AM Subject: Liner notes... Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org For those who may be interested, the liner notes from the new set are up online now: http://jonimitchell.com/music/album.cfm?id=33 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:45:53 -0800 From: Mary Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1546 Liner Notes. CC, I love what you had to say about J's new box set. After the liner notes, I too, want to get it - just for a new perspective. I didn't even know the word, "onomatopoeia" . Thanks for that word, I like the sound of it, but I'm going to have to look it up. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 14:04:08 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1546 > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 3 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1546 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > re: Liner notes [c Karma ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 19:02:25 +0000 > From: c Karma > Subject: re: Liner notes > > Thank you, Les! Contrary to where Bob is leaning, this actually is forcing me > to reconsider and purchase this set. Given the detail to which Joni's studio > choices are revealed in these notes, it's likely that the sequencing and even > the chosen amount of time allowed in the rests between tracks might create a > different set of sonic events and emotional responses than I'd had during > previous exposures to these versions. I'm open minded about that possibility, > anyway. > I love all the onomatopoeia she included in these notes. And I'm so happy for > the opportunity to have used that word in a sentence in my lifetime. I don't > however agree with the definition she insists on applying to various forms of > "squelch." Or, perhaps I'm just disappointed in it. That's my problem I > guess. > CC > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1546 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 16:14:45 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1546 Liner Notes. Every time I hear the word 'Onomatopoeia' I think of the Todd Rundgren song from "Hermit of Mink Hollow", a classic Todd record. Only a minute and a half but really creative. So I read the liner notes - BIG thanks to whoever did that transcription - did someone actually copy them from one source to another? Anyway, many stories that I already knew but a lot of new anecdotes. My favorite part was the ending when you could sense her excitement about the ballet project. It would have been cool the way she weaves these seemingly disparate songs together. Just love to hear her being excited about creating! Bob NP: The New Pornographers, "War On The East Coast" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 19:02:25 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Liner notes Thank you, Les! Contrary to where Bob is leaning, this actually is forcing me to reconsider and purchase this set. Given the detail to which Joni's studio choices are revealed in these notes, it's likely that the sequencing and even the chosen amount of time allowed in the rests between tracks might create a different set of sonic events and emotional responses than I'd had during previous exposures to these versions. I'm open minded about that possibility, anyway. I love all the onomatopoeia she included in these notes. And I'm so happy for the opportunity to have used that word in a sentence in my lifetime. I don't however agree with the definition she insists on applying to various forms of "squelch." Or, perhaps I'm just disappointed in it. That's my problem I guess. CC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 21:47:48 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Mingus, LHMF, etc Thanks Laurent. We have a pretty good shop, Ithaca Guitar Works, with a nice selection, and they would not have a problem with me tuning down the guitars to play around. Your advice is well taken (black crow! I love playing that song! Would love to try it on electric). Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Laurent Olszer Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:37 PM To: joni@smoe.org; joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: Mingus, LHMF, etc Yeah baritone would work. If you get a regular acoustic make sure you try it before buying with a low tuning (e g Black Crow) to make sure it does not buzz with less tension on the strings. Electrics too but to a lesser extent as it's easier to adjust Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 08:17:56 -0800 From: Mary Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1531 Have a safe trip, Victor. I'm glad you're leaving early, so you won't be caught in the mountains during night time. Enjoy yourself. I saw Stevie in the 70's - I still remember the concert. The music just filled your body ! GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 21:08:30 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1531 > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 2 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1531 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Songs in the Key of Life tour (NJC) [Victor ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 18:08:02 -0800 > From: Victor > Subject: Songs in the Key of Life tour (NJC) > > Getting ready to make the 6 hour trek over the mountain to Seattle for the Stevie Wonder performance tomorrow. I don't think I've ever been more excited to see a concert though seeing Joni in '98 and going on the Glitter and Doom tour are certainly up there. I saw Stevie about 7 years ago so I know how incredible his shows are...I think that just heightens the anticipation. Hopefully the roads won't be too crazy...a little icy/snowy right now. Plan to leave at first light. > > Victor in Bend > NP: Led Zeppelin "Dancing Days" > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1531 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:37:14 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Liner notes... For those who may be interested, the liner notes from the new set are up online now: http://jonimitchell.com/music/album.cfm?id=33 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 21:37:28 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Mingus, LHMF, etc Yeah baritone would work. If you get a regular acoustic make sure you try it before buying with a low tuning (e g Black Crow) to make sure it does not buzz with less tension on the strings. Electrics too but to a lesser extent as it's easier to adjust Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 18:30:40 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Mingus, LHMF, etc I'm not great with remembering session people, thanks!! Right now, I feel my guitar playing is improving to the point that I want to upgrade my "guitar arsenal!" My interest was piqued, Dave, when you mentioned the Albanez baritone guitar (did I get that right?). On my wish list is a performance grade Martin or Taylor acoustic of excellent caliber (meaning pricey), and an electric guitar (which I could probably get on craigslist). These thoughts are competing with my need to also do some needed home maintenance (oh so boring). That said, to perform Sweet Sucker Dance, I would probably get my brother Jim (great jazz guitarist) to read your charts, and I would do my best to sing/garble Sweet Sucker Dance ... I really really hope we can hear you and Robin recreate some Mingus magic at Bobfest. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email:B sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:32 PM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: JMDL JMDL Subject: Re: Mingus, LHMF, etc Itbs Peter Erskine on drums throughout Mingus, Sue. The Tony Williams takes are still in the vault somewhere. Sweet Sucker Dance was quite an involved transcription, as the form is so long and some of the harmony so dense. If you know your jazz guitar chords check out my chart on the websitebs transcription page. It was also a hard melody to nail for Robin on our last show, due to the big intervallic leaps, wide pitch range and angular scales. Dave > On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I am loving the new box set ... Act IV was amazing. I was completely > struck by Sweet Sucker Dance. What an amazing, moving song. It > reminded me that, unlike a lot of others, I loved the album Mingus as > soon as I heard it. Every song thrilled me, and I remember hawking it > to anyone who would listen to me at the time. I was no stranger to > jazz at the ripe age of 21 when Mingus came out. I have my brother to > thank because, as a gifted trumpet player in high school, he > introduced me to Louis Armstrong, Dizzy Gillespie, and Bix > Beiderbecke. We actually called Jimmy Bix during that time because he > was always playing his trumpet. We also listened to a lot of fusion > including Return to Forever, so Mingus and the band Joni played with > were not unfamiliar to me. After listening to Sweet Sucker Dance > again in this format, I am once again awed by Joni's depth, the lyrics, the arrangement, everything, the drummer was even freaking me out ... I guess it was Tony Williams on that cut. > Wow. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 20:48:32 -0800 From: Mary Subject: Joni Hope Wouldn't it be awesome ( insert a better word, if you want ) if Joni's "Harry's House" made it into the final season of Mad Men ? Can you not see this ? I know the show is in the can, but I expect there'd be some way to edit it in for broadcast...you know like over the credits ? Does anyone know if soundtrack can be laid in later, after the filming is complete ? GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #409 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe