From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #402 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 30 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 402 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Seattle Times review and interesting comment [simon@icu.com] Re: Which Joni song ["Mark" ] Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Re: Joni in Vulture ["Mark" ] Which Joni song [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Re: Joni and the internet [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Fifth Estate - Jian Ghomeshi [simon@icu.com] Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc [kbhla@fastmail.fm] New Library item: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini [TheS] Re: Katey Sagal's For Free [simon@icu.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1477 [FMYFL@aol.com] New Library item: Both sides now: Joni Mitchell looks back [TheStaff@Joni] Re: New Library item: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini [] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1490 [malka marom ] Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. [simon@icu.com] Volume 201 - Maybe I can be a silver rose [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. [kbhla@fastmail.fm] That Joni Mitchell group on Facebook [Victor Johnson > She mentioned having the Mingus outtakes at the TimesTalk in Toronto last year. > An collective audible gasp erupted from the audience. Of course, she wouldnt commit > to when she was going to release them. She must also have a vast collection of tapes > from her pre-recording cafi days ... She's a cruel hoarder ... Sorry for saying that Joan!! :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > Sue, I remember that gasp. I couldn't help but wonder, didn't anyone ever read the liner notes? It's right there in black and white. Joni stated: This was a difficult but challenging project. I was trying to please Charlie and still be true to myself. I cut EACH Song THREE or FOUR times. I was after something personal -- something musical -- something indescribable. During these experimental recording dates, I had the opportunity to play with some great musicians. I would like to thank them here -- they helped me to search. EDDIE GOMEZ, Bass JOHN GUERIN, Drums PHIL WOODS, Alto Sax GERRY MULLIGAN, Baritone Sax DANNY RICHMOND, Narration TONY WILLIAMS, Drums JOHN McLAUGHLIN, Mini Moog STANLEY CLARKE, Bass None of these musicians are actually included on the completed MINGUS album. Of course there are outtakes, although it's not clear how many of them contain a finished vocal as opposed to a 'guide' vocal. - - - - - - RE: "She must also have a vast collection of tapes from her pre-recording cafi days" I can only say that there are more than most people realize, AND less than you'd expect given the examples of Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen. At this point in time ... I have NO expectation that any of these recording will be released during her lifetime. AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:21:05 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Which Joni song For me it would be 'Facelift'. I first heard it during an NPR broadcast of the concert Joni did from the Gene Autry Museum at the Wells Fargo Theater in January of 1995. I was a widower then, had been for close to two years. I was convinced I would never have another relationship or be in love again. In some way, that song told me it was wrong to deny that possibility to myself. Later that same year I met Travis. The second anniversary of our wedding will be next month. Our third wedding anniversary will actually be the 20th anniversary of our partnership. We decided he would move his belongings here in December of 1995. For all practical purposes, he had been living here for some time before that. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Clark Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 5:17 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Which Joni song <>B Song, its definitely Both Sides Now, Judy Collins' version. For the Roses is probably the album I have listened to the most in the past 5 years. Incredible writing. I was just reading the Rolling Stone review of that album a few days ago. If anyone has never read that review, you should. The review itself is incredibly written. It seems like no critics can write like that anymore.Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:40:45 -0800 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. Oh sheesh, I meant Eliott Roberts, not Rogers! Sorry - brain fog. Kakki >> > Thanks for sending the discussion from last year. I remember it but > must have missed at the time that Joni asked Elliott Rogers to assist > her with the negotiations for the movie project. I found that kind of > sweet to hear. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:53:08 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni in Vulture I didn't see the particular comment so I am just making inferences here from what Mary wrote. I have been reading a book called 'Outliers' by Malcolm Gladwell. It is all about how extraordinarily successful people have usually been given more than genius or exceptional ability of some kind to get to where they are. At one point he says that Bill Gates was born at the right time in history to be able to utilize his genius for computer programming and technology to get to where he is now. The advances in computer technology were ripe for the development of the personal computer, the internet and all the rest when Gates began to put his ability to work. He was also born into a family that had the means to send him to Seattle's prestigious Lakeside School and connections with the University of Washington gave him and Paul Allen access to a computer that had the ability to share programming time. So they were able to practice their programming skills, spending hours at the UW, totally immersed in their obsession. I can see the parallel. Joni came along when cultural shifts had created an environment that was ready to embrace her persona and music. She had put in all of that time playing the coffee houses and working those circuits to practice her art so that by the time she recorded 'Song To a Seagull' she already had a considerable catalog of songs and had become an accomplished guitarist and singer. She landed in Laurel Canyon with a record contract. Later, Russ Kunkel suggested she should use jazz musicians to play her unconventional music. Someone told her about the L.A. Express. When she was looking for a bass player to give her the sounds she wanted, someone told her about Jaco. She was in the right place to interact with people who would point her toward the musical elements she needed. She had the genius, but had she been born ten years earlier, or never had the chance to develop it, and if events had not lined up in a certain way, that genius might never have blossomed or have been discovered. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Kent Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 9:54 PM To: Mary Cc: jmdl Subject: Re: Joni in Vulture Mary, were they comparing Joni to the role Gertrude Stein had in 1920's Paris? I have seen that comparison before a number of years ago. Interesting, but I think Mama Cass would better fit the comparison. Gerry Sent from my iPad > On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Mary wrote: > > Joni on TS being squelched from that movie. Ouch, some of the comments are > quite harsh. Joni IS a genius, but we forget, some....not many.....some > people > don't care for her. I thought it was interesting just to read some other > point of views. I like the long comment that likens Joni's life times in > the > epicenter of LA like being in Paris during the 20's - being in the right > place > at the right time & being a part of it all, and contributing to great > musical > history. The commenter said it better. > > http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/joni-mitchell-doesnt-want-tswift-to-play-her.h > tml?mid=rss?mid=vulturelatest > > GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire > meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:39:39 -0800 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Which Joni song While there was always at least one or two songs on each of her albums that impacted me, the entire For the Roses album is the one that impacted me the most. It came out at a difficult time in my life when I was numb and barely functional from heartbreak, ill health and depression. Nothing and no one could get through to me to help. The first time I played the album, every single song reached out and grabbed me to the core. It was like Joni was singing everything I was going through that no one else seemed to understand. And then the final song Judgement of the Moon and Stars was the perfect resolution to it all. It gave me encouragement to stand up and fight back the darkness and believe in myself. That album was a true lifeline and still leaves me in awe at the power of music to transform and heal. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:40:41 -0500 From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and the internet Don't be embarrased. Joni doesn't even know how to turn on a computer. In a message dated 11/29/2014 1:26:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, low-tide@outlook.com writes: > It must be trying for Joni to read what people say about her all over the > place, including things I have said here on the list. I dread to think of > embarrassing her-it's bad enough to have embarrassed myself ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:27:25 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Fifth Estate - Jian Ghomeshi On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:15 PM, anne madden wrote: > Watching Special on CBC about Ghomeshi's downfall. How ironic that CBC, > Ghomeshi's employee is airing the show. There was a clip from the Joni interview. > Show will be repeated tomorrow night. Or you can watch it OnLine @ It is entirely appropriate that the CBC broadcast this program. After all, he was their employee and a broadcasting star of their making. AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:26:01 -0800 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc I think someone unrelated to Joni are using her new release as an opportunity to "piggyback" on it for their own purposes. Joni was not the one who brought this up again and I doubt all the major world news outlets were hanging on her every word, past and present, ready to bring it up again. It seems to have originated from some other publicity source. That is why all the articles all say the same thing - they come from a pre-prepared press release sent out to the media. Kakki On Sat, Nov 29, 2014, at 02:13 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Didn't this stuff just come up now again because Joni is doing > interviews for her "new" release? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:53:36 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini Title: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini Publication: National Post Date: 2014.11.28 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2874 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:03:53 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Katey Sagal's For Free Jeff Clark wrote: > Hey Bob, > > On our favorite show around here, CBS's Sunday Morning, > (thatbs where I learned what Rowdy Yates has been up to, > a character on what I think is your favorite Joni song, Dancin' Clown) Jeff, QUESTION: Anyone out there old enough to remember WHO Rowdy Yates was? ANSWER: Clint Eastwood. Check it out for yourself I remember Rawhide. It was actually a pretty good TV show, for it's time. - - - - - - Holy Sh*t! Have you seen? "Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens Official Teaser Trailer #1 (2015)" A continuation of the saga created by George Lucas set thirty years after Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983). AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:45:26 -0500 From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1477 That's bull Laura. Taylor does have talent. She might not have the artistic songwriting skills that Joni does, Taylor has have a beautiful voice, and she's not stuck in the 60's and 70's. I still love you though Laura :) xoxo Jimmy In a message dated 11/29/2014 2:34:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org writes: > Even though the subject of this post has Joni content, Taylor Swift > doesn't. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:04:44 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Both sides now: Joni Mitchell looks back Title: Both sides now: Joni Mitchell looks back Publication: Irish Times Date: 2014.11.29 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2875 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:27:42 -0500 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: New Library item: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini Anita, painful but............ Sent from my iPad > On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Anita Gabrielle wrote: > > Holy Moly - this guy nails a lot of feelings folk have......a painful read. > Anita > > > >> On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:53, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: >> >> Title: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini >> Publication: National Post >> Date: 2014.11.28 >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2874 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:50:24 -0500 From: malka marom Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1490 > On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:54 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Saturday, November 29 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1490 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > New Library item: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini [TheS] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:53:36 -0700 (MST) > From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com > Subject: New Library item: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini > > Title: An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini > Publication: National Post > Date: 2014.11.28 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2874 > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1490 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:13:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc Didn't this stuff just come up now again because Joni is doing interviews for her "new" release? From: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" To: Kakki Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc Maybe the people who bought the movie rights are trying to keep the stew simmering. Or maybe Taylor's team wanted to revive this as a way to build empathy for her. (Taylor is being attacked) Jim Katherine, my esteemed colleague from Los Angeles said in part, > >highly curious why quotes of Joni from over a year ago are now being systematically sent out to all media ... who/what entity is sending these out now and what is the motive?> > >I also interpreted Joni's statement as a comment on the project and not > at all meant to diss Taylor Swift.B Unfortunately, some people are > taking it as an affront to Swift...> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:40:05 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. On Nov 28, 2014, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > Not so much frustrated but highly curious why quotes of Joni from over a year ago are > now being systematically sent out to all media now. I worked in publicity/marketing in > an earlier life and it is plain to see that this was originally a press release "blasted out" > to several outlets - most likely by a PR clearinghouse service. Nearly every one of > these articles is worded the same. I wonder who/what entity is sending these out now > and what is the motive? > > I also interpreted Joni's statement as a comment on the project and no at all meant to > diss Taylor Swift. Unfortunately, some people are taking it as an affront to Swift and > making comments how Joni is being so "bitter" and "difficult" and clueless as to how > much Swift could help her introduce her back catalog to an audience of young listeners, etc., > etc. Poor Joni - "if only she would play the Hollywood game like a good girl" instead of being > so honest in her opinion about a proposed project about her own life. Kaaki, It's the Star Maker machinery in action. And the star they're promoting is Taylor Swift. All of the recent activity and publicity about Taylor Swift and her new album comes at the same time that Joni is out and about giving interviews promoting her new 4 CD compilation. Some of these articles are apparently written by people who seem to resent Joni not letting Taylor do Joni the favor of portraying her in a movie. As if ... Frankly, to me, it's more insult than favor. OTOH: Joni HAS been quite 'bitter' and 'resentful' in recent years in a number of interviews. It never hurt anyone to be gracious. Check out 'An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini' @ the following URL: And you are absolutely correct, this is OLD news. Herebs a message I sent to the JMDL last year. - - - - - - Posted to the JMDL on Sept. 26, 2013 David Marine asked > You're right, I don't think there's anything that Joni could do to kill the movie, > but she could withhold the rights to use any of her music. Without any of the music, > they probably would have a really tough time getting the project greenlighted. > - - - - - The producers of any movie need Joni's permission and authorization to use her name, her likeness or her music. They also need her permission and authorization to use her Recordings, if an actress were to Lip-Sync instead of actually singing Joni's songs for the movie. THAT's how Joni Kills (ie: killed) the movie. Make sure the producers understand that No permissions or authorizations will be forthcoming. Joni actually signed a New management agreement with Elliot Roberts to protect her interests and handle any relevant negotiations. Now that the movie is a *dead* issue, that relationship has lapsed once again. - - - - - Catherine McKay posted > At the TimesTalks event, Joni talked about having "squelched" a movie about *her* life. > She says she spoke to a producer who was apparently at the movie showing in BC last year. > She also mentioned something about not being just blonde hair and cheekbones. > This led to a Facebook discussion, with some of us thinking she may have been talking about > the "Girls Like Us" project, but it's possible she was talking about something else - that is, > if there were ever discussions about a movie being made about her. Yes, the movie in question was a film version of the "Girls Like Us" book. Interesting to note that, to Joni, a "Girls Like Us" movie is about *her* life. As we all know, in addition to Joni Mitchell, the book is also about Carole King & Carly Simon. Carly Simon ??? Talk about a false equivalency. Thank God! this movie IS a *dead* issue. Taylor Swift? as Joni Mitchell? This is someone's idea of a sad, sick joke. It is also somewhat naive and arrogant of Taylor Swift take this on as a 'first' (or 2nd) acting role and think she could actually pull it off. Gimme A Break! andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:56:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Muller Subject: Volume 201 - Maybe I can be a silver rose Hi all - and welcome to another brand-new bunch of Joni covers - Volume 201 featuring 19 nuggets of Joni goodness and variety. Some rarities and deep tracks, the only cover of Hunter, and we start off with a Grammy nominee followed by a big band arrangement of River. You just never know what you're going to get when you open a box of Joni covers! https://www.yousendit.com/download/UlRSSXQ0WlRwcFh2WnRVag 1. Tierney Sutton - All I Want2. Rob Parton Big Band - River3. Peter Herbert - Slouching Towards Bethlehem4. Suzie Brown - Urge For Going5. Linda Maze - The Circle Game6. Ooyaah! - Cherokee Louise7. Alf Wilhelm Lundberg - River8. Somers & Co. - Chelsea Morning9. Sweet Silver - Morning Morgantown10. Idette Rauch - A Case Of You11. Zelia Duncan - The Circle Game12. Bentley Jones - River13. Darlingside & Heather Maloney - Woodstock14. Irma - Jag Hade En Kung (I Had a King/Swedish)15. Big Yellow Taxi - Hunter16. Mary Ann Redmond - The Magdalene Laundries17. Frank Balistreri - A Case Of You18. Ali & Theo - River19. Olga Konkova - Big Yellow Taxi 19 songs, 19 hits. Enjoy Bob NP: Peter Herbert, "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:20:28 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. I am in complete agreement with you, Kakki! The whole culture of celebrity is insane and the scrutiny famous people have to endure plus the quotes out of context not to mention the stalkers, bogus lawsuits and accusations would be enough to make anyone crazy. I honestly think Joni has been more victimized by misquoting and quoting out of context than most. She is unflinchingly honest and does not play PR games so it's easy for interviewers to set her up as well. The Tavis Smiley piece was a wonderful exception. Tavis has such respect for Joni. I truly think he is in awe of her. He made a remark about just getting out of the way of the thoughts that come out of her extraordinary mind. She enjoyed it and when he thanked her, she said as much and also told him she had asked to see him. He kissed her hand at the end of the program. We listen to Tavis on NPR. He's another highly intelligent human being who is honest and speaks his mind. I think there is a mutual admiration society there. I think Tavis asked her about putting herself in the same class as Debussy, Ellington and Miles Davis. Joni said something to the effect that, oh no, she doesn't put herself in that exalted company. She said she needs artists she can look up to. Another misconception that I have heard perpetuated, that Joni is so arrogant to consider her music to be of the same quality as Debussy, etc. Frankly, I would be disappointed in Joni if she didn't speak so freely and stir up the s**t every now and then. If she ever did care about the star-maker machinery, I don't think she does anymore. Her honesty is one of the things I admire most about her. I don't always agree with her but sometimes I feel strongly that what she says are things that need to be said and heard. Mark in cold Seattle - 30 degrees right now and we had snow last night. Nothing compared to other places but unusual for us. To Kakki: You're probably getting 3 copies of this because I forgot to hit 'Reply All' the first time. Sorry about that. Alas, another senior moment. They seem to come more and more often these days. - -----Original Message----- From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:54 PM To: FMYFL@aol.com ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. You are right, Jimmy - Joni might dig at some of her peers but she would never say Taylor has no talent. That is terrible if that is how the media is extrapolating what she originally said. I was thinking tonight it is probably a very good and wise thing in some ways for Joni that she doesn't peruse the internet or social media, has only some old landline wall phone in the kitchen without an answering machine and only uses her new iPhone to snap photos! I would go nuts if I was a public figure, especially an artist, and had to read such cr*p about me! Kakki On Fri, Nov 28, 2014, at 05:23 PM, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > I agree Kakster :) > > Don't know why this is just now coming out on the news. This is old, but it was on the news again today. Joni saying Taylor has high cheekbones, but no talent. Joni wouldn't say that. It's just marketing bull. > > xoxo > Jimmy > > In a message dated 11/28/2014 6:26:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, kbhla@fastmail.fm writes: > >> Not so much frustrated but highly curious why quotes of Joni >> from over a >> year ago are now being systematically sent out to all media now. I >> worked in publicity/marketing in an earlier life and it is plain to see >> that this was originally a press release "blasted out" to several >> outlets - most likely by a PR clearinghouse service. - -- kbhla@fastmail.fm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:32:47 -0800 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Joni, Taylor Swift, etc. That's what I thought, Simon, but it seems like a very amateurish PR move on whoever's part and seems more likely to backfire on them in the long run. The comments/reactions to these articles seem to be running 80-20 in Team Joni's favor, although it is troubling that some are falling for the spin. I thought that "open letter" from Bidini was ridiculously over the top and was wondering "wow, now who paid him?" It was so vituperative and disturbed me on first reading. Then again, I thought it was so full of unhinged hysteria and sense of faux betrayal, that Joni might actually have a good laugh over it. I was half expecting him to say he was now going to smash all his Joni records because she is so mean to Dylan and Lennon. Geez. I agree it never hurts anyone to be gracious and I sometimes wish Joni would self-censor herself just a tiny bit. On the other hand, there is probably a lot more she could be saying but is holding back, too. Was thinking today about how different Joni is perceived in media from how she is perceived in person by those who have met her in person. She may come off as prickly in print, but many, including myself have found her perfectly gracious, sharp and good humored in person. I think of another music artist whose talent I revered for years and who always came across smooth and slick in interviews but was a rude, nasty boor the few times I observed him in person over a number of years. Consistently nasty to everyone - his band, his audience and his fans. So I tend to go by what I see in person, rather than what I see in print or media. Thanks for sending the discussion from last year. I remember it but must have missed at the time that Joni asked Elliott Rogers to assist her with the negotiations for the movie project. I found that kind of sweet to hear. Kakki > It's the Star Maker machinery in action. And the star they're promoting > is Taylor Swift. All of the recent activity and publicity about Taylor Swift and her new > album comes at the same time that Joni is out and about giving interviews promoting her > new 4 CD compilation. Some of these articles are apparently written by people who seem to > resent Joni not letting Taylor do Joni the favor of portraying her in a movie. As if ... Frankly, to me, it's more insult than favor. > > OTOH: Joni HAS been quite 'bitter' and 'resentful' in recent years in a > number of interviews. > > It never hurt anyone to be gracious. > > Check out 'An open letter to Joni Mitchell, from Dave Bidini' @ the > following URL: > > > > > And you are absolutely correct, this is OLD news. > > Herebs a message I sent to the JMDL last year. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 23:39:04 -0800 From: Victor Johnson Subject: That Joni Mitchell group on Facebook I left that group today...I just couldn't take it anymore. Every thread turning into heated diatribe back and forth over what we "should" or "shouldn't" discuss and God forbid we say anything that might be construed as criticism because that wouldn't be "nice" and on and on and on... It is so refreshing to know that the JMDL is here. Thankful for this community. Victor in Bend NP: the faint sound of a train in the distance, the hear kicking on, and a clock ticking somewhere ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #402 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe