From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #397 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, November 27 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 397 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni on Morning Joe [Phyliss ] Re: lyrics to shine [Anita Gabrielle ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 ["kimberly" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:19:07 -0500 From: Phyliss Subject: Joni on Morning Joe Just saw a teaser. The Joni - Taylor - Girls Like Us thing is going to be talked about on Morning Joe... Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:09:03 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: lyrics to shine Yes, thank you, Ingrid. I often find your posts challenge my thinking and perception. This is no exception and I am grateful to you for this one. It opens a different door, Love Anita > On 26 Nov 2014, at 11:38, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > Thank you so much Ingrid ... That was so beautiful and helpful to me. Love Sue > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 26, 2014, at 3:09 AM, "ingrid lochrenberg" wrote: >> >> Imagine walking on a beach, astonished at the light colouring the grains of >> sand. The sea pushing half-moons of water up onto the beach.....feeling the >> wind, your isolation, having seagulls flying overhead...seeing them turn their >> heads to look at you, them catching one's eye.........feeling seen, and being >> overwhelmed at their freedom to fly on. Coming across shapes and colours on >> the beach..... seeing the play of light as the water recedes....the slant of >> the sand......captivated by the bubbles on the surface...wondering about the >> eye contact with the seagull. ...feeling despair and dreams starting to >> intermingle as emerse yoursself into the timelessness of the beach. >> Then imagine being there with someone who launches into a scientific and >> historical description of each shell, giving one their latin name, describing >> their lifecycles, telling one who named them......which university classified >> them into which category....in which era....as you walk they tell you that >> gravity is responsible for the tides washing in. You're happy that Kepler was >> denounced as a mystic. But the explanation goes on: the history of >> universities.....the wonders of progress and knowledge, the necessity to have >> work ethic and contribute ....time to go back and face the endless lectures >> amid the ambitious students, knuckling down, noses in their books....getting >> drunk at night....inconsistent value systems....akward social occasions, the >> pretentiousness that constitutes the communication between students, the >> laughter that lacks conviction because one knows real magic has been left >> behind. But through it all, the dedication to doing the work that will get >> you through. All the chaos gets resolved into a chosen career. Somehow >> ambitions have been formulated.....law, medicine, computer programmers.....the >> ends which makes eveything make sense.....the tedium of the alternative, >> working away at a job where a cigarette break may bring meaning to your life. >> The incomprehension of what a surgeon is actually doing with his >> intelligence...the procedures, the hospital environment, the ruthlessness all >> around. CEO's and their goals.....selling more potato chips, the distribution >> networks, the margins, the commodity cycles that get you down....the >> secretaries that hold all the chaos together. The disciplines with their >> conflicting approaches to the world leaving one feeling so confused... The >> sundays that leave the entire working world experiencing the blues.....the >> slow progress towards demise, the depressions that are avoided.The clever >> monetary system designed by the intelligent that absolve the intelligent from >> any work but gambling on futures or on others. The astronomers and the >> astrophysicists and the particle physicists that may think knowledge will lead >> to a final explanation. The herbalists and the playwrights and the zoologists >> and the chefs and finally, the sisters of mercy. >> A madman ditches all this...all the rational scientific explanations of his >> conception and his purpose that are as vacuous as the word gravity....the >> madman relishes the wonderful inexplicable action-at-a-distance because it >> confuses everyone else until they settle on the word gravity...but that is >> just an inner delight. The madman ditches all sentence structure if it means >> freedom from being assailed by explanation after explanation that merely >> serves to explain away everything. If the madman drinks coffee he is delighted >> and astonished that it was offered to him when he was just thinking about it. >> No amount of economic, historic, geographic, agricultural information will >> pursuade him that this taste of coffee isn't miraculous. Neither does he want >> to hear a word about it ...he is savoring his coffee and he knows that every >> single explanation merely describes the passage of time..The coffee may as >> well have been created just for him. In fact it came out of a bottle and water >> was added and such was the creation of it.... The madman won't be lamenting >> about who grows the coffee where and who works at it and who doesn't get paid >> enough, the madman just knows it as a gift and as he knows he certainly won't >> be working for it - he'd rather be idle , marvelling at the sun shining down >> on him, the stars that would rather not be named, in constellations of their >> own choice. The color of the flowers.....emanating from a brown >> earth....there will be no explanation that will take away his astonishment. >> Explanations stand between the profound, grand, simplicity of creation and the >> incredulous madman. They are neither here nor there. It is a bigger >> contribution to stand in absolute awe of creation,...to marvel at the words >> escaping from ones'mouth...everything striking one as revelatory.....his mad >> laughter that sometimes accompanies his perceptions about the paradoxical >> world being explained alarms those whose neural circuits can't handle it. He >> is too intense, his observations are too obviouss, things are being described >> in a way that is rendering everything too absurd. He has excess dopamine and >> he will be brought into line. If he has the imagination to think his enemies >> should contemplate posioning him he is paranoid. No matter, the psychiatrists >> will take over. The simplicity of his life, no career, no money, no clothes, >> no status, no choice is nothing compared to the gift of experiencing onesself >> and the universe first-hand......every explanation merely treads water with >> the process it is explaining...it will change with the fashions and the >> paradigms of the day......at every change which miraculusly accompanies the >> flow of time the madman will be overcome with astonishment . He might just as >> well start with the word, (coffee), and end with the taste of it in his mouth. >> Nothing can explain away ones' existence and nothing can explain away the >> universe.......so the madman is left coping with it, in his poverty..Sometimes >> he is grandiose and he thinks he is Joni Mitchells daughter. Sometimes he is >> coherent enough to communicate again. >> Anyway, I think that in Shine Joni Mitchell is alluding to the madmen's >> simplistic universe as being an attempt to bring some sanity back to the >> world, but that it mostly leaves one incoherent. So she says, I suppose in >> comfort but maybe also in hope, let your little lights shine..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:25:02 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 My sun currently rises and sets in the land of Joni. I am preparing for a concert of all Joni Mitchell compositions, Dec. 7th @ Soho, Santa Barbara, CA. and hope that all of you within range can attend. I've had wonderful support for this effort so far and many from this site, so thank you to those who have already responded. I wanted to share some of the unanticipated challenges of this project from the standpoint of the musician. This has both mystified me and also garnered increased respect for Joni's work. Her tunings are so magical but a bit of a nightmare from a guitarists perspective. I have managed to break two brand new guitars with computerized tuning systems in an effort to program them to only 6 of 8 the tunings that I am using in the show. I'll probably end up with two guitars on stage and a competent guitar tech just off stage grabbing them from me and retuning them to me between songs. I'm doing this as a trade with Jensen's guitar, our local music store. I'm only playing on every third song. I wondering how the heck Joni managed this...alone...in a coffee house... with no tech. Maybe audiences were more tolerant of her tuning time back then. Maybe she got famous so quickly into her career that she had a constant tech and numerous guitars after those long awkward coffee house gigs. Maybe I'm just being humbled, ha! Thoughts? Kimberly Ford - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 26 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1457 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson? NO Justice! [Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson? NO Justice! > I reiterate, what does any of this have to do with the Joni Mitchell > discussion list???? > > Sent from my iPad Dear Sent from my iPad, as you probably know, there are four different versions of this mailing list, so the question may be answered as "everything" or "nothing", depending on the list version you signed up to. A discussion of a non-Joni topic should have the NJC (No Joni Content) in the subject line. In this case someone apparently forgot it and then people simply hit the reply button. I trust my fellow listers here that this happens without the intent of disturbing the peace of the Joni-only world, so I believe we can manage and simply delete such a message. moni k. - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #397 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe