From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #387 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, November 19 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 387 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw(6): [Annatr ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1424 ["kimberly" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:10:26 -0500 From: Annatr Subject: Fw(6): http://www.primoreventos.com.br/_photo.0211.jpeg?316=udoduv&2414&limygaqu==62186123 ============== Sent: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:10:29 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:56:06 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1424 I think I'm a groupie. I have managed to convert everyone I've come in contact with lately in preparation for my upcoming Joni Concert, Dec. 7th in Santa Barbara, so yes, groupie, student, grateful person to have this music as the sound track to some of my most meaningful times. Joni's music was the bug that bit me when I was just getting started in music; so I think grateful person might be most accurate. Naaah, groupie! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:30 PM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1424 JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 18 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1424 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Are we groupies? [Jamie Zubairi Home ] Re: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Music biz insider Bob Lefsetz on Carey/Cary [Michael Paz Subject: Re: Are we groupies? Surely groupies want to get laid by the band? ;-) And no, I've never seen her live in concert (or anywhere else either) Much Joni Jamie Zoob Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Agent: Byron's Management 020 72428096 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line Jamie Zubairi is Associate Artist at Ovalhouse working on new works for 2014 You can see him soon in: *Three Sides To A Fence* Lost Theatre Solo Festival 7:30pm 9th October 2014 *Expectations* Oct 22-25 Ovalhouse supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England *Cucumber* for Channel 4, by Russell T Davies due Jan 2015 Current exhibition *Clapham Library October 2014* Recent work: *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations"* Tate Modern (Turner Prize Nominated) *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. On 14 November 2014 02:39, Laura Stanley wrote: > Tonight I got asked if I am a Joni Mitchell groupie. I didn't know how to > answer that. I've never seen Joni in concertb& could I still be a groupie? > > I'm here because I play her music. I was curious about her chords so I > googled to find them. Now I might be a groupieb& Ha ha ha!! > > Are y'all groupies? > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:33:49 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete I'm sure that Joni would *not* like to be referred to as the Sarah Palin of the music community! Bob NP: The Buzzcocks, "Hollow Inside" From: Moni Kellermann To: JMDL , Date: 11/18/2014 02:43 AM Subject: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org In the WSJ article http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-muse-behind-joni-mitchells-carey-14157216 58 she is quoted as saying "As we stood staring out toward Turkey, an explosion went off behind us." You cannot see Turkey from Matala, as the village is on the south side of Crete: http://goo.gl/maps/9bluT (Thanx to my old pal Andreas who is a longtime Joni fan as well as a regular Crete vacationer for pointing out to this.) moni k. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:29:42 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Music biz insider Bob Lefsetz on Carey/Cary Mostly old fogies or folkies or somthing like that. Paz headed to LA for less than 24 hours tomorrow! On Nov 18, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Steve Dulson wrote: And yes, people DO still play the dulcimer! :) From: Bob Lefsetz Date: November 18, 2014, 12:21:37 PM PST To: brogdenbay@yahoo.com Subject: Carey Reply-To: Bob Lefsetz There are a lot of baby boomers who don't know "Blue," but to those who do it sits right up there with the White Album, it's one of the best LPs ever made. At this late date emphasis is upon "A Case Of You," that's the song the youngsters cover. But in the pre-CD days we dropped the needle on this hitless wonder and were enraptured immediately by "All I Want" and stayed all the way through "The Last Time I Saw Richard." Actually, you picked a side. After playing it through. That's what we did with all our albums, drilled down deep and after knowing one side by heart we flipped the record over to learn what was on the other. And oftentimes the side we picked was actually number two. It was for me on "Blue," because it began with "California." "I'm going to see the folks I dig I'll even kiss a Sunset pig California I'm coming home" That's right, pig. This was back before every male deserved that moniker, tarred with the sexual advances of their brethren. At this time "pig" meant "cop." Oh, how far we've come. In the pre-9/11 days those in blue were not to be trusted. The African-Americans still know this, Ferguson is evidence of this, but the whites have switched sides, suddenly cops and servicemen are heroes. I'm not saying they never were, just that it's strange to see Bruce Springsteen extolling the virtues of veterans at the Concert For Valor. It's a head-scratcher for those who grew up in the sixties. We didn't want to go to war. We abhorred government policies. And we didn't trust the police long before Ice-T told us not to. And I'll leave aside the excellent points that today's military is doing the job we were unwilling to, and that they're not taken care of after their days in combat are done, never mind that contractors do so much of the work, and that not every cop is a bad apple, but the point is it was very different times, where it was all about personal development as opposed to wallet development, and every young person hopped aboard Icelandic Air and got a Eurail Pass and saw the continent. Not only the upper class. Then again, we were all middle class, I didn't know any truly rich people. But I'd been to California. I yearned to live there. The Beach Boys infected me, Joni Mitchell sealed the deal. And I knew every line of that number, especially: "I met a redneck on a Grecian isle Who did the goat dance very well He gave me back my smile But he kept my camera to sell" He was neither a redneck nor did he keep the camera. Huh? I always thought Joni was singing about a local, someone she got involved with who grew up there. But Cary Raditz grew up in North Carolina. HUH? "The wind is in from Africa Last night I couldn't sleep Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here Carey But it's really not my home" But that's CAREY and he's named CARY! And to tell you the truth, being CAREY with an "e" I always pondered whether Joni was singing about a girl, but no, she admits she misspelled it, it's all laid out in this wonderful article in the "Wall Street Journal." That's right, once I became inured to side one of "Blue" I flipped it over. And in position four, after "Little Green" and before "Blue," was "Carey." "Come on down to the Mermaid Cafe and I will Buy you a bottle of wine And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers A round for these friends of mine Let's have another round for the bright red devil Who keeps me in this tourist town" That's Cary. He had red hair. And a cane... "Come on Carey get out your cane" Whew! She's singing the truth, albeit with a few notable changes. Turns out Taylor Swift is not the only one singing about her exes. But in the heyday of feminism it's Joni who loves 'em and leaves 'em, she gets a story to tell, not as revenge, but as a way to stoke the starmaker machinery behind the popular song. And eventually Cary came to California, to visit Joni. He was transfixed. But she was out of his league. He gave her back her camera and that was it. And I can't believe it's 2014 and I finally know all this. Actually, if you do a bit of web research the picture starts to come clear. But back in 1971 there was no web, all we had was the album cover and rumors. Everybody talked like they knew Joni, but not only did they not know her, they knew very little. And sure she was beautiful, but it was her talent that enraptured. The way she could sing her story and make it universal. She expressed what we were feeling, from the heart. Not her desire to get rich or revenge, but to eat up this life, to have endless experiences, get drunk and tell tales, flirt and fuck and be free. We always wanted to be free. Actually, we were. And whenever we drop the needle on "Blue" we baby boomers feel this way again. P.S. Joni may have had her fame, but Cary had his charisma, never underestimate charisma. P.P.S. I always shoo away the locals trying to make a buck, but having paid the insistent photographer to snap we end up with this pic that is hard to stop staring at. A relic from the ages, depicting a king and queen who were not cheer captain and football star, but leads in their own movie. P.P.P.S. Does anybody play a dulcimer anymore? Does anybody play this instrument that evidences honesty and humanity as soon as you strum? "When Joni Mitchell Met Cary Raditz, Her 'Mean Old Daddy' - The subject of Joni Mitchell's 'Carey' recalls his time with the singer in early 1970 in a fishing village on Crete": http://on.wsj.com/1xTE8ra "Joni Mitchell on the Muse Behind 'Carey' - The singer wrote her hit 'Carey' while camping out in a seaside cave on Crete in early 1970": http://on.wsj.com/1xzjxHL - - -- Visit the archive: http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/ - - -- http://www.twitter.com/lefsetz - - -- If you would like to subscribe to the LefsetzLetter, http://www.lefsetz.com/lists/?p=subscribe&id=1 If you do not want to receive any more LefsetzLetters, http://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=unsubscribe&uid=2dacc41a738dc343e4c092e25e2b4231 To change your email address http://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=preferences&uid=2dacc41a738dc343e4c092e25e2b4231 - - -- powered by phpList, www.phplist.com -- *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1424 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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